61-79-list-digest Wednesday, January 6 1999 Volume 03 : Number 001



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Getting the 4x4 Steering Shaft
FTE 61-79 - door seals and tailgate paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - Calling any C6 experts or wannabes
FTE 61-79 - C-6 Problem
FTE 61-79 - RE: E-mail address
Re: FTE 61-79 - Calling any C6 experts or wannabes
Re: FTE 61-79 - Getting the 4x4 Steering Shaft
Re: FTE 61-79 - Getting the 4x4 Steering Shaft
Re: FTE 61-79 - Holes in the box?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 292 Intake Manifold Q's
FTE 61-79 - Fw: [CM:15334] Ford 428
FTE 61-79 - Premier Performance email address??
FTE 61-79 - 67-72 upper body side moulding on ebay

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:12:41 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Getting the 4x4 Steering Shaft

Just an update on Tony Marino's solution for fixing the notoriously Mickey
Mouse steering shaft U-joint on 4x4's. As Tony suggested, I bought the
following Spicer parts:

SP 10-4-431-SX (yoke w/splines)
SP 10-4-13 (yoke w/threaded hole)
SP 5-170X (greasable U-joint)

I first measured the overall length of the shaft (be sure to extend it all the
way since there is a slip joint at the other end that can throw your
measurement off) then cut the old U-joint off the shaft with a hacksaw. I then
slid the new yoke on the shaft and (ensuring the other slip joint was fully-
extended), re-measured and put a bolt in the threaded hole and tightened it
down on the shaft (kind of like a set screw) to hold it in place. I then
drilled a new 5/16" hole all the way through and tapped it out and ran a bolt
through.....of course, you could probably just drill a new hole in the shaft
where the threaded hole already existed in the yoke and then tapped it, but I
wasn't sure I could get it lined up right...if you are equipped and know how,
you may even be able to weld it...

Anyway, Tony Marino is the Man of the Hour for finding these parts.....the
total cost is about $45....rather than the over $200 solution for new shafts
from aftermarket suppliers....

This so far now has been done on a 78 F-250 4x4 and Tony's F-150 4x4 (not
sure what year, but between 73 and 79). Looks like it will also work on the 76
highboy as well....

Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask....

Colorado Jeff




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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:16:00 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - door seals and tailgate paint

Hi gang!!! It's great to be back. Talk about e-mail to wade through!


I did manage to get some important Ford truck work done in spite of the
weather and painting the dining room.

I installed door seals on both doors. I got them from JC Whitney, $15 per
door including contact cement, plus shipping. I think they are on sale in
one of the flyers for $13, but I had already ordered. They went on easily,
look good, and seem to seal well. I had to trim about 8 inches off of each
one. There are no installation instructions except for what is printed on
the tubes of cement. It took about 15 minutes per door installation time. I
tend to goof around and get side tracked, so I spent almost an hour. My old
seals were falling off already, so there wasn't any scraping to do except
along the bottom of the opening. You do have to remove the threshold
molding and pull back your carpet or floor mat. IMHO, 30 bucks well spent.

I also pulled my tailgate off of the truck for a repaint. For some reason
the new paint reacted with the old paint and blistered in several places.
The new paint really loads the sandpaper like it didn't cure properly. The
last time I saw this is when my dad sprayed lacquer over acryllic enamel or
vice versa. Anyway, it looks like the tailgate is in for a bare metal strip
down. This brings up a question. Did Ford ever put on a quick release
tailgate like GM from the mid 70s on? On my 76, 79, and 83 GMCs I could
take the tailgate off in about 30 seconds. I understand that this did lead
to high theft rates in some areas.

I hope everyone is enjoying the New Year.

- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 10:00:11 -0600
From: Steve Schmeckpeper
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Calling any C6 experts or wannabes

Try some TRANS-X (available fr Autozone). I've had good luck with this product.
Just might save you a bundle ;-))
Smeck

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:10:17 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - C-6 Problem

John,
I've been off list since the 23rd. Just read your message of yesterday.
Don't know if you've posted any previous messages or not, but here goes:
You have done all the things I would recommend to locate the malfunction.
Did you make sure the lever on the transmission that the kickdown connects
to remained in the forward position when you had the kickdown disconnected.
If it was in the rearward position, I don't think it would shift until very
excessive rpm's, but if it were somewhere in the mid range from front to
rear, I would think it could be the culprit. Next guess is even though you
changed the vacuum modulator and checked the vacuum the modulator, I
would still suspect the modulator or vacuum. Try to check the vacuum while
trying to get it to shift. I know this is a bit of trouble, but a "Tee"
and some length of vacuum is cheap in comparison to a transmission. I
believe you are correct in the asumption that reverse uses the same clutch
pack as 3rd. I don't have the chart with me and memory ain't what it used
to be, but if the transmission holds good after you finally get it to
shift, then the clutchpak is not the culprit.

Good luck.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.



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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:37:05 -0700
From: "bertolin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: E-mail address

Azie, in addition to the info Tim found, in my search I found a 1-800 # for
orders (1-800-959-3235). I found no mention of a web site or E-mail address.
Hope this helps. Roberta

> Since I only have access to E-mail and not the WWW, could one of you
> gentlemen or ladies out there look up "Premier Performance - 1020s Melrose
> St - Placentia, Ca. 92670" for me and furnish
> their E-mail address to me??? - If they have one.!!!!....?
> TIA
> Azie
> Ardmore, Al.
> I couldn't find their email address, but here's their landline:
> Premier Performance
> 1020 S Melrose St
> Placentia, CA 92870-7119
> Phone: 714-630-3235
> Hope this helps, Tim


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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:57:01 -0500
From: Walter Ford
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Calling any C6 experts or wannabes

I had the same problem in my 78. mine was due to the "automatic oil change"
that 380,000 miles had eventually done to it. I ran it one day not
realizing that I had almost no fluid b/c the cooler line burst. the first
sign that it was going was that it would take a while to shift into 3rd,
then it started giving me problems going into any forwawrd gear.. well,
finally I ended up driving home from work (30 miles) in reverse to avoid a
tow bill. Now she is almost a 4 speed. well, good luck.. I wish that I had
also bit the bullet and had it rebuilt, but I wasnt using my head. oh well.
walter

'78 F-150 4x4 36's 4' Lift

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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:07:01 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Getting the 4x4 Steering Shaft

BDIJXS aol.com wrote:
>
> Just an update on Tony Marino's solution for fixing the notoriously Mickey
> Mouse steering shaft U-joint on 4x4's. As Tony suggested, I bought the
> following Spicer parts:
>
> SP 10-4-431-SX (yoke w/splines)
> SP 10-4-13 (yoke w/threaded hole)
> SP 5-170X (greasable U-joint)
>

Does this stuff just replace the U at the upper end??

OX
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:07:56 -0500
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Getting the 4x4 Steering Shaft

Exactly! 8-) Thanks for the kind words C. Jeff. And the truck I did it to
was a '78.

Tony
tony pscico.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/~tony (updated 12/30/98)

>> SP 10-4-431-SX (yoke w/splines)
>> SP 10-4-13 (yoke w/threaded hole)
>> SP 5-170X (greasable U-joint)
>>
>
> Does this stuff just replace the U at the upper end??
>
> OX

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:04:17 EST
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Holes in the box?

In a message dated 1/4/99 11:33:50 PM Central Standard Time,
Deidre_Jacobson bc.sympatico.ca writes:

> Can any of you Ford gurus tell me what the holes on the forward part of
> the box on my 65 Camper Special were used for?
As I recall (I was very young back then...) They were for some sort of tie
down system for a cab-over camper.
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 01:22:54 -0000
From: "Jeff Carver"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 292 Intake Manifold Q's

Well, I removed the carb, throttle linkage,
and with the additional visibility, decided
to check the leak again. This time it
manifested itself at the front of the intake
manifold. The leak was from the thermostat
housing seal. After removing the thermostat,
I found that I made a rookie (that I am) error.

The thermostat slipped during installation,
and got between the housing and manifold,
creating a huge gap. The truck is on a slope,
so the water ran back under the manifold,
looking like a leak back there.

Rookie error number two was also found during
this exam. I had failed to remove the cover
over the sticky stuff on the gasket. I had
never seen a gasket come with sticky stuff,
so didn't notice.

All is re-assembled and preliminary testing
shows no leaks, but ran out of time to fill
'er up and get it running.

Re-plumbed the vacuum lines for the power
brakes and found a couple of nifty 'Ford'
labeled hose clamps.

Jeff
Grass Valley, CA
'64 F100 CrewCab
** ** ** ** I wrote earlier:
I'll finally get the time to check into the water leak
on my '64 F100 CrewCab with the new water pump,
but leaky intake manifold. 292 V8 stock. Newbie
at working on this truck Tuesday (digest mode).




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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:05:04 -0800
From: "Sam Weatherby"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fw: [CM:15334] Ford 428

Thought someone may be interested in this...
-srw
Sam Weatherby SWeatherby uswest.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy ICQ # 18354914
'70 Mustang Grabber Sportsroof
'93 F-150 XLT Lightning
'98 FXD Super Glide
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From: My427Stang aol.com
To: sweatherby uswest.net
Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 8:20 AM
Subject: [CM:15334] Ford 428


>Trying to clean out my shed, if anyone is looking for a 428 block and
crank, I
>have one for sale. Its .030 over block, and a nice .020/.020 cast 1U crank.
>Looking for 450 or so, but it doesnt eat much, so I dont really want to
give
>it away. Its got rods with recent Milodon bolts, and no pistons. Let me
know
>if any of you guys are interested, I am in Omaha, NE. It also has had the
>solid lifter oil galley plugs put in, but they are removeable for hyd cams.
>Trades considered too, for 70 Stang or FE parts. Thanks - Ross
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:15:48 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Premier Performance email address??

>Since I only have access to E-mail and not the WWW, could one of you
>gentlemen or ladies out there look up "Premier Performance - 1020s Melrose
>St - Placentia, Ca. 92670" for me and furnish
>their E-mail address to me??? - If they have one.!!!!....?


Azie,
Awhile back someone mentioned that Premier Performance built a black box so
you can run a E4OD without the EEC computer. I ran a web search without any
luck, if they have any web presence or email I couldn't find it.
Good luck!
dale c

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 02:22:55 -0500
From: Tony Marino
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 67-72 upper body side moulding on ebay

Hey All-

I don't know how Ken feels about us posting EBAY auction adds to the group,
but I saw this and know how hard they are to come by-

67-72 body side molding- OEM, new from what the add says.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=53341037

Take care-

Tony
tony ....

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