61-79-list-digest Sunday, January 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 580



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE 61-79 - RE: Service Manuals
FTE 61-79 - Re: Headers for a 68 2WD - Stan's
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Service Manuals
Re: FTE 61-79 - Another Good Deal? 77 4X4 - $1200
Re: FTE 61-79 - Change radius arm bushings on '77 2wd F250
Re: FTE 61-79 - removing a king pin
FTE 61-79 - Bronco Sad Xmas Story
FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Problems/FE Heads
Re: FTE 61-79 - Another Good Deal? 77 4X4 - $1200
FTE 61-79 - T-case
Re: FTE 61-79 - Bronco Sad Xmas Story
Re: FTE 61-79 - Another Good Deal? 77 4X4 - $1200
Re: FTE 61-79 - Change radius arm bushings on '77 2wd F250
Re: FTE 61-79 - Change radius arm bushings on '77 2wd F250
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Problems/FE Heads
Re: FTE 61-79 - Bronco Sad Xmas Story
FTE 61-79 - Valve Cover Question

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:51:50 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

Thanks Ken on all scores. Happy new year to one and all.

--Thom B--
1967 F250 390 4WD
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/tbeeee/page/index.htm

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:48:07 -0600
From: Rick_Thompson dell.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Service Manuals

Anybody know where I can purchase factory service manuals for 1977 Ford
trucks?



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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:44:03 -0800 (PST)
From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Headers for a 68 2WD - Stan's

"J. A. Knapper" wrote:
> I think I'll same my money and get a set of Stan's ceramic headers...

Unless something has changed in the last month or so, Stan's dosen't
offer ceramic. I asked them if they would send them over to
Performance Coatings which is also in Auburn, WA but their suggestion
was to buy the headers bare, make sure they fit right, and have them
coated myself. The reason was, if they didn't fit they would not
want to take back coated headers. They said they would take $20 off
not to chrome them.

I really wanted those headers, but if I did that I would have about
$500 into headers which is more than I want to spend, even for my
truck.

Mark
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'74 F-100 4X4
'74 F-250 Supercab
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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 08:47:46 -0800
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Service Manuals

For a source of used manuals, try eBay.com. They come up
periodically. I've recently bought a number of them (older than what
you are looking for) through eBay. There are also a number of used
automobile literature dealers who would sell this type of item. Do a
websearch for automobile literature; try looking in HEMMINGS magazine
or go to hemmings.com. Hope this helps.

Tim Bowman
'71 F100



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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:41:47 -0500
From: David Wadson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Another Good Deal? 77 4X4 - $1200

>I recently just found a 1977 F100 4X4. It has a 351M, p/s, c6 (rebuilt 3
>months ago), long bed and a good, solid body. NO rust holes and only
>moderate surface rust in the bed. It has a star bust crack in the center
>of the windshild, doesn't look bad, but any ideas on how much that would
>cost if I had to replace it?

The price up here in Canada for a new windshield was about $250 so in the
US probably around $150. I bought two beaters for $300 and took the
windshield out of one of those and got it installed along with a solid rear
window for about $60.

>BTW, I'm broke right now, so I gotta buy something reliable if anything at
>all. (will have to get a loan for this most likely unless I get some cash
>for something!)

Maybe you shouldn't be buying a 20-year old Ford truck! :-)

>What do ya'll think? PS.. THanks for all the help and advice. Ya'll are
>a really help group, as most ford people are. Thanks and happy new year!

I don't know about everyone else, but I think I try to be rather helpful
either on the mailing list or at the side of the road because I never know
when I'm going to be out in the freezing cold in need of a boost. I've been
there before and most surely will be there again...it's only a matter of
time. :-) But heck, I'd rather be at the side of the road replacing a
rocker arm than calling a tow truck and pulling out my credit card...



David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4


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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:48:24 -0500
From: David Wadson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Change radius arm bushings on '77 2wd F250

>Can someone help with changing the radius arm bushings on my 77 F250. Can
>you do this without removing the coil springs?

My friend was able to do it without removing the coil springs but it's
pretty grueling job. I believe the coil spring bolt at the bottom is
torqued at about 250 ft/lbs so unless you have a good impact wrench, good
luck getting it off! I believe his mechanic suggested some technique where
you use another truck to pull the radius arm forward but we weren't too
enthusiastic about that approach. When I replaced my front axles, the
ibeam, coil and radius arm were still together - it required a bit of
wrestling but was able to get them in. I believe you can also remove the
bracket at the back of the radius arm - they are usually riveted on from
the factory but you can cut the rivets and replace them with high-grade
bolts. I think that's how my buddy changed his...


David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS2" - 78 F100/302/C4


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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 08:56:16 -0800
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - removing a king pin

Guys:

I just checked out Steve Delanty's home page
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty and his tech tips are REALLY good. His
layout is clear and straightforward. If you are an inveterate
tinkerer like I am, he presents some really good ideas (my favorite
was the onboard air compressor!! and the king pin press is so simple
it's pretty scarey)

Tim Bowman
'71 F100


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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:48:59 -0500
From: Paul
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bronco Sad Xmas Story

I had talked to the man many times; others said the 77 Bronco was just
what I was looking for: 302/Auto. He was the 2nd owner and had to
sell it due to financial strains. I was going to see it last Friday.
New Years Day, Thursday, just to make sure all was well, he took it out
for a double check test drive on a local highway, just to make sure
everything was just right.
The big sedan must have not seen the stop sign, because it hit the right
side of the Bronco squarely...the Bronco was totalled, but the driver
was a little stiff, but OK.
Just before I went down Friday, cash in pocket, I thought I'd call him.
His wife told me the bad news.
Yes, the other guy was driving a Chevy!
I guess it wasn't meant to be...

Paul G.
53 pickup, 54 panel, 55 pickup. The 53s for sale!
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:08:31 -0600
From: "J Elliott"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Problems/FE Heads

>> On FE heads ,Are 428 CJ the only heads with both "north-south"and
>>"east-west"exhaust manifold bolt patterns?
>Yes as far as I know

No. 390 GT heads had them. The reason for the 'east-west' hole pattern is to
accomodate diff. manifolds needed in the 390-GT/CJ installations in mustangs
and cougars due to restricted clearance to the shock towers. Usually in
these, in addition to the diff. manifolds, the towers had to be 'dimpled' in
spots for clearance. This was recently pointed out to me as a means of
determining authenticity of bodies for those engine applications.

Jim E.



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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:16:46 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Another Good Deal? 77 4X4 - $1200

In a message dated 1/2/99 8:54:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, wadsond air.on.ca
writes:


>all. (will have to get a loan for this most likely unless I get some cash
>for something!)

Maybe you shouldn't be buying a 20-year old Ford truck! :-) >>

HEY WATCH IT!!! I bought my F-350 for exactly that reason, I needed somthing
solid, and you cant beat a ford truck.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:48:12 -0800
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - T-case

Anyway to check these mounts ? Did you have a divorced case, or
attached
to the tranny ?
Mine keeps popping out, and its quite likely that this is the problem,
also
how did you adjust the linkage ? Mine's really sloppy and I'd like some
bushings, anyone know of a kit for this ?


The mounts on my 76 F-250 W/ divorsed case are rubber and they are easy
to change by dropping the case.My linkage has a threaded rod with a
clevis on each end.I adjusted mine by putting it in 4 low and turning
the clevis out to "push"it into gear a little farther.You'll see what I
mean when you craw under the truck.I got my bushing and mounts from
Ford,but it's been a few years.
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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 18:00:59 -0500
From: Matthew Hayduk
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Bronco Sad Xmas Story

At 02:48 PM 1/2/99 -0500, you wrote:
>53 pickup, 54 panel, 55 pickup. The 53s for sale!

What is the condition, do you have a homepage with picutres?


Matthew Hayduk
matt plusweb.net ICQ: 3680882 pager.mirabilis.com

94 SVT Cobra Coupe White/Black Leather #4270 of 5009 SCOA
9.176 76.069 Mph PERSONAL TOP SPEED: 137 mph
- - K&N FIPK
- - Flowmaster 2 chamber mufflers with no tailpipes
- - Pro 5.0 Power Tower Shifter
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:13:18 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Another Good Deal? 77 4X4 - $1200

sounds like a fair price If the lift is done correctly. is it all suspension
lift? or a combo of suspension and body ? first the body lift should not
exceed 3", second the rear would be better with rearched springs instead of 6"
worth of blocks. check all steering components, i've seen people cut and weld
parts back togeather to make them longer, this is a no no. the drive shafts
should also be lengthened with that much lift. i've seen alot of scary stuff
out there on 4x4's, home made radius arm brackets, cut and rewelded pitman
arms, cut and rewelded track bars, 6+ inches of blocks made out of anything
that will fit, spacers made for the front coils, 6" blocks on the front of
leaf spring trucks, and one truck i saw had 7" of body lift.
some people will do anything to make their truck big, and usualy these
are younger, not mechanicaly inclined people with no regards to safety.
have you seen how some of those mini trucks are lowered? talk about
safety!

big trucks are neat, if done correctly.

jeff grant
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:13:58 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Change radius arm bushings on '77 2wd F250

77 f250's don't have coil springs.
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:15:58 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Change radius arm bushings on '77 2wd F250

oops sorry about that on the f250 front coils, i was in the four wheel drive
state of mind.

sorry
j grant
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:22:38 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Problems/FE Heads

the 390 gt head had a similar pattern, the cj has dual pattern on all exhaust
ports, the gt has the dual pattern on a few of the ports. the cj casting #
will be C8OE

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:30:12 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Bronco Sad Xmas Story

where is the bronco? i need parts.

jeff grant
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:27:02 -0500
From: "Leslie O Mehaffey"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Valve Cover Question

The 302 in my 79 had the Ford oval stamped on each valve cover. I was given
a 302 today from a freind all in parts (I am gonna rebuild it) and I noticed
they had "Power by Ford" stamped in each one. My freind does not know what
it came out of, it was just sitting in his grandpas shed. What years did....


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