61-79-list-digest Monday, December 21 1998 Volume 02 : Number 567



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Trailer Towing
Re: FTE 61-79 - 64 FORD F5 Top Speed
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460-low oil pressure
FTE 61-79 - 79 Resto Help ?
FTE 61-79 - '65 F250 Power Steering
FTE 61-79 - 429 heads
FTE 61-79 - RE: 429 heads
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Spare Tire Carrier
FTE 61-79 - 65 F500 top speed
Re: FTE 61-79 - 429 heads
Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 Resto Help ?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 Resto Help ?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 429 heads

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:25:45 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Trailer Towing

I am going to combine responses to save a little bandwidth.

Jeff, I checked the rear end ratio by using one of the on-line vin
decoders. My door tag lists the axle as 46J. I tend to believe it since
it is a great highway cruiser. I will crawl under and confirm after it
stops raining.

Mark, thanks for the trailer towing info. I have a owners manual for my
truck but as luck would have it about twenty pages are missing in the
middle. Guess where the towing info was located? I cut and pasted your
info for future reference.

I talked with my friend some more to clarify some things. The trailer
weight is about 2000 lbs empty. It has a maximum load capacity of 10,000
lbs (I would never put that much on it).

He said his dad pulled it with no problem with his 70 F100. Of course he
has a 390 with a C6 also.

Looks like I am going to need more truck!


Jon E. Purut
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/Chelley
one 64 F500, one 77 F150 and a pair of 65 F100's

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 07:42:30 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 64 FORD F5 Top Speed

Not enough for you and way too many for your wife!

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> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 64 FORD F5 Top Speed
> Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 3:00 PM



> Just how many Ford trucks will fit on 40 acres anyway?


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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 07:49:04 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460-low oil pressure

Rule of thumb is 10 psi per 1000 rpm. So if you "rev it up" to 5000 rpm
you're still within "specs". I wouldn't sweat it.

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> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 21:20:17 -0600
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> From: Michael Schwall
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460-low oil pressure
> Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
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> >i have a 460 with oil pressure that when i first start it up runs at
> 65-70
> >psi,but as it warms up it drops off to around 15 psi at an idle,and
> will go
> >back up to around 45-50 psi if you rev it up.Any thoughts as to what
> the
> >problem might be would be greatly appreciated,thanks.
>

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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:11:32 -0600
From: "don"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 Resto Help ?

I am restoring a 79 f150. I was wondering if there was a better book then
the Haynes Manual for a complete Teardown. So Far I have all the front sheet
metal off, engine out etc....
I could use alot better pics of suspension etc, to help me with the
resto.....any help, email, appreciated.
donb ficom.net

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 14:47:37 -0800
From: John and Brenda Tengelin
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '65 F250 Power Steering

Does anyone out there have experience putting P/S in a '65 Hi-Boy?
Especially- what steering box fits best. Does anyone know if power
steering was an option on these beasts in '65? Thanks- John

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:03:36 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 429 heads

Hey all

Can anyone identify these heads for me. They are C8VE-E. Thanks


OX
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:23:50 -0700
From: Randy Collins
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 429 heads


Can anyone identify these heads for me. They are C8VE-E. Thanks

The heads are 1968 429 heads. I don't remember the exact chamber volume
but I believe it is around 77cc's. They are basically the same as the 1969
C9VE and 1970 D0VE. Don't forget to grind out the exhaust bumps.


Later,

Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck"
460 SUPER COBRA JET



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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:45:21 -0600
From: Jim Henjum
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Spare Tire Carrier

"Miska, Richard L (Rick)" wrote:

> 4wd yes, 2wd I dont think so. What about everybody else? Anybody got 2
> under truck tanks? Where are your spares????
>

I had a '78 F150 Ranger 2wd with dual tanks under the bed. The spare tire was
under the rear gas tank just like our '79 F150 4x4. The body of the '78 is now
on my '75.

Ross Henjum

'75 F250 4x4 460 NP435 NP205

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:39:20 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 65 F500 top speed

>>>As a retired truck driver I can't help but wonder why your 64 FORD
F5's top speed is only 35 mph.

J.Whited, I wish it did go faster. The reason it is a slow boat are
numerious. First it has a 6 cylinder engine rated at 114 hp at 3600 rpm.
Second a 6.20 single speed axle. Third it has a govenor on it. I was
talking to fellow list member Azie about it and he said such a setup was
used to haul heavy weight short distances.

I would love for it to go faster. Have any ideas?

Jon E. Purut
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/Chelley
one 64 F500, one 77 F150 and a pair of 65 F100's

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 22:39:46 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 429 heads

good heads for the street. 68 model, i believe the engine was rated at 365 hp
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:19:31 -0800
From: "jeffd"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 Resto Help ?

I would recommend buying the Ford Shop Manual Set. They are a little pricey
but the best I've seen. If your dealer doesn't have them, call Helm's, the
dealer should have the number.

Jeff

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> From: don
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> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 Resto Help ?
> Date: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 9:11 AM
>
> I am restoring a 79 f150. I was wondering if there was a better book then
> the Haynes Manual for a complete Teardown. So Far I have all the front
sheet
> metal off, engine out etc....
> I could use alot better pics of suspension etc, to help me with the
> resto.....any help, email, appreciated.
> donb ficom.net
>
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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:20:05 -0800
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 Resto Help ?

What is up with the date of this message... I don't believe its the year 2k
yet...??

Mike in Seattle

don wrote:

> I am restoring a 79 f150. I was wondering if there was a better book then
> the Haynes Manual for a complete Teardown. So Far I have all the front sheet
> metal off, engine out etc....
> I could use alot better pics of suspension etc, to help me with the
> resto.....any help, email, appreciated.
> donb ficom.net
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:19:16 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 429 heads

Can anyone identify these heads for me. They are C8VE-E. Thanks
OX >>
Yes, this is one of early ones made from 68-71. Combustion chamber volume is
75.8 cc. Uses positive-stop rocker-arm studs and rail-type rocker arms. This
head fits both the 429 and the 460 and is essentially the same as casting
numbers C8SZ-B and DOVE-C. I have used this head with the stock 1973 and up
pistons having a 30cc dish to get about a 9:1 compression ratio (good running
engine on today's pump gas). Do not use with pistons from 68-71 as the
compression ratio will be about 11:1. What I am saying is this head is about
a 50 horsepower bolt on for the 73 and up engines. The 73 and newer heads
have greater than 90 cc combustion chambers, .022" greater deck height, and
they use the 30cc dish pistons running a true compression ratio only in the
7's despite what the advertising literature may say. What are going use them
on?
Burt Hill Kennewick, Wa 1972 F-250 4x4 460....


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