61-79-list-digest Saturday, December 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 565



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Fuel pump\Stu's Effie
FTE 61-79 - Re: FE Dipstick location/Leaks
FTE 61-79 - Re: FE Oil Pan in 4x4
FTE 61-79 - dipstick location help
FTE 61-79 - Oil pressure
FTE 61-79 - Something amiss
FTE 61-79 - hemastats and Effie
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4v manifolds
Re: FTE 61-79 - dipstick location help
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FE Oil Pan in 4x4
FTE 61-79 - dipstick location
FTE 61-79 - Ruptured diaphragm
FTE 61-79 - ratios
FTE 61-79 - fuel pump/idle problems
FTE 61-79 - trailer towing
Re: FTE 61-79 - trailer towing
Re: FTE 61-79 - trailer towing
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold hint..
FTE 61-79 - 79 351M is doggy
FTE 61-79 - Re: Oil Pressure in a 460
RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 351M is doggy
RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 351M is doggy
Re: FTE 61-79 - dipstick location
Re: FTE 61-79 - hemastats and Effie
FTE 61-79 - missing data
FTE 61-79 - 429-460 into a '65?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4v manifolds
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4v manifolds
Re: FTE 61-79 - trailer towing
FTE 61-79 - RE: 460-low oil pressure
Re: FTE 61-79 - F-250 Front End Lifts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Trucks and Religion

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:49:27 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fuel pump\Stu's Effie

>Where did you get the magazine??? Issue # month, etc?

I picked it up at Circle K (a small convenience store). There's no
issue#, nor is there a month. It dose say "Display until 2\99" and
it's published by Peterson's 4wheel series. As the name describes "50
Years of the Ford F-Series" that's all it's about. BTW the one I got was
the only one on the rack.


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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:11:52 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FE Dipstick location/Leaks

> In fact, the little plate where the dipstick goes through is
>notorious for leaking. They are riveted on. We had a discussion awhile ago on
>changing the rivets over to bolts or to weld the thing on.....

>I don't remember if I told you how the weld on the plate that the
>tube runs though, my fav method is to fill the pan with damp sand.
>You'll wind up with less distortion in the surrounding sheet metal.....
>
>Steve & the Rockette

I like to fix the leak by de-riveting the plate, making a replacement gasket.
I then bolt it back together with stainless steel "truss head" machine screws
[ "(|------" ] and lock nuts. Much easier than weld/brazing and added
bonus is that plate can be replaced if the tube part (where the longer
dipstick tube enters) is ever damaged. This detail also presents a much more
finished appearance when someone crawls under your truck and looks and they
do.

--Thom B--
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:31:23 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FE Oil Pan in 4x4

>>
>>
>>But hey its just a theory ... anyone know what all is idfferent ? Is the
>>oil pump mounted differently because of this ? I have a 2wd 390 going into
>>my 4x4, can I just switch the oil pan and filter mount, or will I need to
>>get a different oil pump too ?

As I recall to install an FE 4x2 or car motor into a 4x4 (among a host of
other things not related to the pan) you must swap the pan (rear-sump), the
oil pump pick-up tube (longer to accomodate rear-sump pan), and the filter
mount (4x4 filter installs vertically rather than horizontally as the 4x2 does
to allow clearance for frame/steering box). The oil pump itself does not
change.

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 06:42:40 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - dipstick location help

Lemme take the old 35mm camera out tonight and get some pics, wait on
development and then I will have them posted to my home page. Tony Marino
is a new college grad now so
I figure he'll be too lazy to post them for me, you lazy no
good............kids these days. ;^)
Maybe I'll just have to send them snail mail. Lemme know if you are in a
huge hurry for this.
>>Can we get some help here? Anyone with a 1/2 ton 4WD FE have
>>the dipstick tube in the block? Or is the oil pan tube correct?
>>The oil pan is dented from hitting a rock or something and if
>>I go looking for another one I want to get the right thing.
>>
>yeah, what he said! :) Stu ? Pictures maybe ? Seems like you said
>yours was original ...

Original?? This truck still had the staples on the valve covers and the
starting instruction sleeve on the sunvisor when I bought her.
>
Later,

Stu
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:12:47 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil pressure

Pete & Shell write: >>i have a 460 with oil pressure that when i first
start it up runs at 65-70
psi,but as it warms up it drops off to around 15 psi at an idle,and will go
back up to around 45-50 psi if you rev it up.Any thoughts as to what the
problem might be would be greatly appreciated,thanks.

Can't say as I see anything abnormal here. Let me guess at your mileage on
the engine. Above 80000 miles???????? Normal wear I would say. When
engines get several thousands of miles on them the bearings, oil pump,
crankshaft and camshaft naturally have a bit of wear which increases
clearances. As clearances increase, it lets more oil through. As more oil
goes through and the oil pump is turning at a constant slow rate (engine
idle) and the oil is thinned by the heat, the pressure is naturally lower.
Nothing to be concerned with at this time, however you are coming to the
time when new bearings are in order. All IMHO.

Good luck.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:17:53 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Something amiss

Ken.......... Something amiss here. Digest #563 has 53 messages
according to the "In this Issue".... I only got 8 messages... What
gives????????

Azie
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 06:53:17 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - hemastats and Effie

>From: Stu Varner
>>I put 3 fuel pumps on my 71 360FE 4x4 before (I carry a spare) I tore
>it
>>apart for the resto.
>
> I don't know if this has been posted so I'll just post it anyway. :)
>I picked a magazine called "50 Years of the Ford F-Series" last night
>and flipping through it, what do I find? That's right! Stu's '71 4x4
>Effie. Congratulations Stu.

Since I am within spitting distance of Graceland, lemme say "thank you,
thankyouverymuch!"

They gave you a nice write-up. So how come
>you didn't say anything about all the help you've gotten from FTE,
>hmmmm? ;\
>

I sent that pic in to "Custom and Classic Trucks" reader's rides back before
FTE existed. They must have used it from a file (same publisher) for the
"50 years of F-series" rag. I would have praised the crew form FTE which
would have been about 200 people, including Ken, Yourself (JIM), Duckdon
(Don Grossman) and Marko my Ukranian Mercury buddy in BC and YES, "Your"
dear friend Harry J......

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:22:06 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4v manifolds

At 09:10 PM 12/17/98 , you wrote:
>Anyone have a list of casting numbers for 4 barrel intake manifolds for a
>390?
>
I can get a couple of numbers for you, but don't have a list. I'll see if
I can remember and post the couple I have this weekend or monday (if
someone hasn't responded by then with the answer)

Can I ask why you need/want these ?

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:30:21 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - dipstick location help

>Lemme take the old 35mm camera out tonight and get some pics, wait on
>development and then I will have them posted to my home page. Tony Marino
>is a new college grad now so
>I figure he'll be too lazy to post them for me, you lazy no
>good............kids these days. ;^)
>Maybe I'll just have to send them snail mail. Lemme know if you are in a
>huge hurry for this.
>Original?? This truck still had the staples on the valve covers and the
>starting instruction sleeve on the sunvisor when I bought her.
>>

Thanks Stu ... no hurry here, it'll probably be mid january before I'm
ready to put the engine actually into place, so I can probably wait that
long at least :)

Bill *green with jealousy over an original truck*
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:36:59 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FE Oil Pan in 4x4

> As I recall to install an FE 4x2 or car motor into a 4x4 (among a host of
>other things not related to the pan)

A host of other things ? How long a host is this ? I guess since mine was
probably a 4x2 then it didn't get a lot of the stuff changed that it should
have ... now you've got me wondering ...


you must swap the pan (rear-sump), the
>oil pump pick-up tube (longer to accomodate rear-sump pan),

Figured this much ... was hopin I didn't have to mount the oil pump
somewhere else, but I guess that was a dumb thought since the distributor
is what drives the thing ... 'morning Bill...


and the filter
>mount (4x4 filter installs vertically rather than horizontally as the 4x2 does
>to allow clearance for frame/steering box).

Really ? Wow, never seen a Ford with a vertically mounted oil filter ...
mine's horizontal, just like the one I took off of the 390. Course I
noticed my steering box bolts to the outside of the frame too ... thought
that was pretty weird since everyone was tellin me it was supposed to mount
to the inside.



Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:45:30 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - dipstick location

Hi Matt,

"Streetmaster" was an intake manifold produced by Edelbrock in the 70's/early
80's......

This may be what you have...

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:07:56 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ruptured diaphragm

I worked at a boat dealership when I was a younger chap. Some of the
Inboard/Outboard (I/O) boats has 302's in them. The engines were crammed
under a fiberglass cover resulting in limited air circulation. The 302's
had mechanical fuel pumps on them and if the diaphragm ruptured and
started spewing gas under than cover you had a bomb waiting to go off at
the slightest provocation. The way the manufactures got around that was
to buy pumps with a brass fitting attached to the vent hole. A tubing
was attached to the fitting and run to the outside of the boat. Problem
solved.

You could do the same to your ford trucks. (FTE content)

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:15:46 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ratios

Bill,

You are right about tire diameters. My idea was to give an idea of how the
different ratios would affect rpm in a general sense only.


- -John

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:31:57 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - fuel pump/idle problems

My first thought was sticking float problems, too. A tiny piece of dirt
will do it. If the float is neoprene it will eventually act like a sponge
and not float as well. The copper floats can get pin holes and let a little
gas inside, again changing the floating ability. In all cases, highway
speed is generally not affected because the float isn't trying to close the
needle and seat anyway. I once drove a Buick Pak Avenue over 200 miles with
a float that wasn't adjusted right. It ran great down the highway but
actually overflowed gas out the top of the carb at idle. No, I did it all
myself, can't blame anyone else for the foul up. Not recommended.


- -John

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:10:12 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - trailer towing

This may be wishful thinking but I would like to see what you guys think.
I have the opportunity to buy a friends heavy duty tandem axle C channel
trailer. It is large enough to carry cars/trucks and is rated at 8000
lbs. I need advise as to whether my truck will pull it. The truck I would
like to use is my 77 F150.

Here are the specs:
Engine 300 I6
Trans. C4
Rear End 2.72 3300 lb. Dana 44

If this setup is not enough I know I can use my F500 but with a top speed
of only 35 mph short trips become much longer. Long trips become
impossible. Then again I could always buy that 80's F350 dually I have
had my eye on.

My wife and I bought a 40 acre farm and I know i will have a lot of stuff
to haul. Can't wait. Just how many Ford trucks will fit on 40 acres
anyway?

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:26:00 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - trailer towing

>Here are the specs:
>Engine 300 I6
>Trans. C4
>Rear End 2.72 3300 lb. Dana 44
>
Well since this is a 77 1/2 ton, I'm assuming its carbureted .. With that
really nice mileage you must get from the 2.72, I don't think it would be
well suited to pulling a heavy trailer, much less one that is 8,000 lbs. (
At least not if you plan on pulling up hill, I suppose you could use it to
guide the trailer down hill, but I"m not sure that constitutes pulling :)

But seriously, I would consider a different truck for this. The newer
trucks with the fuel injection and all that might do it, but I would still
tend to think them underpowered for such a task, especially on a long trip.
Its bearable if you're just moving it around a few miles and aren't in a
hurry, but if you're planning on any long distance stuff ... well I think
35 is pretty much going to be your choice there, at least you'll make the
hills, and not fry the tranny.

My grandfather had a 6 cylinder once ... he used it to haul hay and a
camper in the back of the truck ... you'll notice I said once ... he had it
for 2 years then got a new 70 w/302. He never gets new vehicles that often
... shoot he kept the 70 as his main transport til 92? or 91 ... either
way, more than 20 years (barely) ... both were 3 on the tree, no autos for
him (or 4speeds for that matter). He was never much for over powered
equipment, but he HATED that 6, wouldn't even let grandma get one in a car.
Anyway I don't think you'll need a dually, but you'll probably want a V8
up front.


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:35:24 -0500
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - trailer towing

May not be exactly the same but-----

Last May I made a trip from Ohio to Montana hauling a 28 ft. trailer that
weighed 2,200lbs empty, and brought back my '70 F-100 on it- Gross weight I
would guess of the '70 and trailer was 'bout 6,200 lbs being pulled a total
of 1,700 miles back through the moutains, high elevations of over 5,000 ft,
and LONG straight drives (north Dakota) into 35-40mph headwinds. It was
pulled by my '93 F-150 4x4 with a lift kit and oversized tires (33x12.5's)
making the gear ratio of 3.55 that much lower. My truck is a 300 I-6 and a
5spd manual. We could chuck 85Mph most of the way home in overdrive. I
had reservations before the trip, I would not hesitate to do it again.
Just my opinion. I don't know how strong C-4's are, but I know for some of
those hills we pulled, an auto might not have made it! As far as gas
milage- I got about 10mpg on average. Summary: IMHO- Short trips, No
problem. More than 50 miles- I'd consider another vehicle.

Another $.02

>Just how many Ford trucks will fit on 40 acres anyway?

he he he.. I'm working on 4 in a half an acre! 8-)

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:06:45 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold hint..

Well last night I decided it was time to replace that leaky exhaust gasket
... I'd tried last weekend, but the bolts were acting like they wanted to
twist off, and not having any way of heating them (well the holes) up, I
decided to just tighten it back up and wait for something amazing, like the
impact wrench at Dad's.

I decided to try working on the engine warm. So as soon as I shut it off,
I ran (well took a couple steps) across the garage and got my old
sweatshirt and ratchet and gave them a tug ... wouldn't you know the only
one to give me fits was the very back one, and that one I solved by using
(kids, don't try this at home) an open end/box end wrench, and putting the
ratchet in the open end, then pulling on that. Would've probably been
easier with a knuckle (ujoint?) for the ratchet, but again don't have one
of those either.

Just thought I'd pass this on, for those of you with ... uhm ... limited
tools ...

Bill
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:04:39 -0700
From: BJ Tiemessen
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 351M is doggy

Thank you guys for all the great info. Just a few more things. I
didn't degree the cam, I did use new timing chain though. I just lined
up the marks on the timing gears, but now I wish that I had degreed it.
I am almost sure that I have fixed all of the vacuum leaks, the last one
was found between the carb and the manifold. Also I set my distributer
by the ping method. I am running 3" exaust so it is very free flowing.
BTW does anyone from colorado know if I need cats on this truck, all of
the stickers in the engine compartment are gone. Thanks again

BJ
79 F-250

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:13:41 -0800
From: Marv Miller
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Oil Pressure in a 460

> Pete wrote:

> i have a 460 with oil pressure that when i first start it up runs at 65-70
> psi,but as it warms up it drops off to around 15 psi at an idle,and will go
> back up to around 45-50 psi if you rev it up. Any thoughts as to what the
> problem might be would be greatly appreciated,thanks.

Problem? What problem? As long as you've got plenty
of FLOW, you're OK. Although I have no direct 460
experience, what you're discribing here is about par for
gasoline engines, and not to be worried about.

- -Marv-

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:24:25 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 351M is doggy

I believe you do need cats that new. Depends on the county you are in
also. Is Fort Collins on emissions? If so, just call or go to test
station and they can look it up. Rick

p.s. Check out Andersons in Greeley, East of 85 on 8th st, lots of truck
parts and good prices.

> ----------
> From: BJ Tiemessen[SMTP:btiemesn holly.colostate.edu]
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 10:04 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 351M is doggy
>
> Thank you guys for all the great info. Just a few more things. I
> didn't degree the cam, I did use new timing chain though. I just lined
> up the marks on the timing gears, but now I wish that I had degreed it.
> I am almost sure that I have fixed all of the vacuum leaks, the last one
> was found between the carb and the manifold. Also I set my distributer
> by the ping method. I am running 3" exaust so it is very free flowing.
> BTW does anyone from colorado know if I need cats on this truck, all of
> the stickers in the engine compartment are gone. Thanks again
>
> BJ
> 79 F-250
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:34:30 -0500
From: "Jay Grover"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 351M is doggy

BJ,
I'd be willing to bet that if you richen the carb (re-jet), you'll be able
to advance the timing to the point where the engine will be able to spin up
much faster. Lining up the marks is probably good enough unless you want to
squeeze every last bit of horsepower out.
I use the timing light to get myself in the right neighborhood, then I use
the ping method for the final adjustments.
I'd set the timing at factory spec, then start do a modified ping test, only
adjusting the jetting, instead of moving the timing.
Also, you might want to try a cooler heat range on your spark plugs. If
your running a modified ignition (sorry, I didn't remember from your initial
post), you should be able to use a much cooler plug than the factory calls
for. This can help reduce pre-ignition, and let you dial in more timing.
Sorry, don't know about the CO emissions stuff, I'm in OH. Colorado Jeff?

Jay


> Thank you guys for all the great info. Just a few more things. I
> didn't degree the cam, I did use new timing chain though. I just lined
> up the marks on the timing gears, but now I wish that I had degreed it.
> I am almost sure that I have fixed all of the vacuum leaks, the last one
> was found between the carb and the manifold. Also I set my distributer
> by the ping method. I am running 3" exaust so it is very free flowing.
> BTW does anyone from colorado know if I need cats on this truck, all of
> the stickers in the engine compartment are gone. Thanks again
>
> BJ
> 79 F-250
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:37:25 -0800
From: MC
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - dipstick location

BDIJXS aol.com wrote:

> Hi Matt,
>
> "Streetmaster" was an intake manifold produced by Edelbrock in the 70's/early
> 80's......
>
> This may be what you have...
>
> Colorado Jeff

Ok, this makes sense. I knew that the intake was an Edelbrock, because their name
is molded into the top. I thought the streetmaster plate was on the block, but
apparently that is wrong. I didn't investigate it too far, I just noticed it when
I pulled the engine to replace the clutch and a motor mount. Now after hearing
all the other comments about dipstick locations, I am beginning to wonder just
where this engine came from! The dipstick is wrong, the sump is wrong, and the
filter is wrong too!

- --
Matt Cozad
1994 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 "Yoda"
1970 F100 4x4 "Jabba the Truck"
1969 F100 4x4 "Spare Parts"


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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:54:53 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - hemastats and Effie

At 06:53 AM 12/18/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>From: Stu Varner
>>>I put 3 fuel pumps on my 71 360FE 4x4 before (I carry a spare) I tore
>>it
>>>apart for the resto.
>>
>> I don't know if this has been posted so I'll just post it anyway. :)
>>I picked a magazine called "50 Years of the Ford F-Series" last night
>>and flipping through it, what do I find? That's right! Stu's '71 4x4
>>Effie. Congratulations Stu.

Really cool.......

Ken

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:49:10 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - missing data

It did it again. Digest #563. I got only 8 messages. Last one is Jamie
Moss's oil pan disertation. Is it on my end or is something else wrong...
There are 53 messages indicated in the "In this issue".

Oh well !!! I'm going home for a nice long weekend.

Stu: You out for the Holidays - right???!!! Might want to use those
"clamps" somewhere besides the gas line!!!!!!

Gottha!!!

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:39:14 -0800
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 429-460 into a '65?

I found a good deal on a 460 and a 429, not sure which one I'll get.
I would like to put these, and a Automatic tranny in my '65 F100.
Presently it has a 302 and a 4spd.
Anyone done this or know if I will be able to get mounts easily?
-srw

Sam Weatherby http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy
SWeatherby UsWest.Net A-SamWe Microsoft.com
'70 Grabber Sportsroof Mustang
'93 F-150 XLT Lightning
'98 HD FXD Super Glide
'78 Monarch
'65 F100


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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:34:05 -0800
From: "jeffd"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4v manifolds

Found a late 60's Galaxy with a stock 4 barrel manifold in the yards. The
block had 352 below the left head so, if I remember correctly this makes it
a FE type block. I like to use OEM parts if I can and I REALLY want a 4
barrel carb. Just wanted to make sure I was buying something good.

Jeff
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> From: William S Hart
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4v manifolds
> Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 6:22 AM
>
> At 09:10 PM 12/17/98 , you wrote:
> >Anyone have a list of casting numbers for 4 barrel intake manifolds for
a
> >390?
> >
> I can get a couple of numbers for you, but don't have a list. I'll see
if
> I can remember and post the couple I have this weekend or monday (if
> someone hasn't responded by then with the answer)
>
> Can I ask why you need/want these ?
>
> Bill
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:34:05 -0800
From: "jeffd"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4v manifolds

Found a late 60's Galaxy with a stock 4 barrel manifold in the yards. The
block had 352 below the left head so, if I remember correctly this makes it
a FE type block. I like to use OEM parts if I can and I REALLY want a 4
barrel carb. Just wanted to make sure I was buying something good.

Jeff
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> From: William S Hart
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4v manifolds
> Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 6:22 AM
>
> At 09:10 PM 12/17/98 , you wrote:
> >Anyone have a list of casting numbers for 4 barrel intake manifolds for
a
> >390?
> >
> I can get a couple of numbers for you, but don't have a list. I'll see
if
> I can remember and post the couple I have this weekend or monday (if
> someone hasn't responded by then with the answer)
>
> Can I ask why you need/want these ?
>
> Bill
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:46:28 -0800
From: "jeffd"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - trailer towing

I would suggest that you change the rear gearing to 4.56 at least. Are you
reading the tag on the housing or have you checked to see what the gearing
really is?
A quick way to check: block front wheels, lift rear so tires can turn,
chalk a line on the ground and on the tire. Then mark a horizontal line on
the drive shaft. With the trans in neutral, tun the tire ( 1) turn, while
doing this count the number of times the driveshaft turns. this will give
you a close ratio. Almost 5 turns will be 4.88. A little over 4 turns will
be 4.11

Jeff
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> From: Jon E Purut
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - trailer towing
> Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 2:10 PM
>
> This may be wishful thinking but I would like to see what you guys think.
> I have the opportunity to buy a friends heavy duty tandem axle C channel
> trailer. It is large enough to carry cars/trucks and is rated at 8000
> lbs. I need advise as to whether my truck will pull it. The truck I would
> like to use is my 77 F150.
>
> Here are the specs:
> Engine 300 I6
> Trans. C4
> Rear End 2.72 3300 lb. Dana 44
>
> If this setup is not enough I know I can use my F500 but with a top speed
> of only 35 mph short trips become much longer. Long trips become
> impossible. Then again I could always buy that 80's F350 dually I have
> had my eye on.
>
> My wife and I bought a 40 acre farm and I know i will have a lot of stuff
> to haul. Can't wait. Just how many Ford trucks will fit on 40 acres
> anyway?
>
> Jon E. Purut
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/Chelley
> one 64 F500, one 77 F150 and a pair of 65 F100's
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:55:47 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 460-low oil pressure

Pete, I don't think you have a problem. The oil gets thinner as it warms
up, so lower pressure when warm is natural.

I think your readings are well within limits of a normally functioning
engine. I have a 390 with only about 4000 miles on it and my readings are
just like yours.


Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net

*****Drive it like you hate it.


Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:47:42 -0800
From: "Pete and Shell"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460-low oil pressure

i have a 460 with oil pressure that when i first start it up runs at 65-70
psi,but as it warms up it drops off to around 15 psi at an idle,and will go
back up to around 45-50 psi if you rev it up.Any thoughts as to what the
problem might be would be greatly appreciated,thanks.

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:29:27 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F-250 Front End Lifts

the 4x4 magazines always push it real hard to never put blocks of any size
under a front end. but i work for a company that builds spreader trucks and we
frequently install blocks (2"-4" factory blocks)in these trucks when putting
on flotation tires. these trucks are on public roads and interstates every day
with tons of fertilizer on them. and these are larger trucks f600's, kodiaks
etc.
but on a 4x4pick up i wouldn't put anymore than a 2", i know a few people that
have done this with out any troubles and with no difference in handling. of
course i would use high quality u bolts and maybe a larger diameter than
stock, it has to be safer than some of those mini trucks riding around here.

i'm sure i'll here some lick back on this subject

jeff grant
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:03:32 PST
From: "Tim Neasham"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Trucks and Religion

>I'm a little more at the beginning of this exact thing, same years >and
everything, so if you could pass on any helpful info, I would >really
appreciate it!!!

Good luck Bill. The weather here isn't cooperating much with my swap.
It's damn cold outside, so I'm not getting done very quick. :( Couple
of pointers. WORK INSIDE! Really now, uhm... Go to a junkyard and get....


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