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61-79-list-digest Monday, December 14 1998 Volume 02 : Number 558 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Kids' Playhouse Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Steering colunm interchange Re: FTE 61-79 - valve cover for 6 cyl FTE 61-79 - Re:Chevy vs Fords Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Chevy vs Fords FTE 61-79 - Re: Kids' Playhouse FTE 61-79 - full floating pins FTE 61-79 - RE: Steering colunm interchange Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Chevy vs Fords FTE 61-79 - "Power by Ford" Valve Cover FTE 61-79 - FORD vs cheby [none] FTE 61-79 - choke woes FTE 61-79 - front diff swap FTE 61-79 - Wheels/Ford vs. c#$%* FTE 61-79 - 400M Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Steering colunm interchange FTE 61-79 - Steering colunm interchange Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering colunm interchange Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering column interchange Re: FTE 61-79 - choke woes FTE 61-79 - Exhaust manifold repair FTE 61-79 - Re: Re: FTE 61-79 - front diff swap Re: FTE 61-79 - front diff swap Re: FTE 61-79 - Greetings:71 F100 302 Re: FTE 61-79 - brands Re: FTE 61-79 - chevys vs Fords Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Chevy vs Fords Re: FTE 61-79 - front diff swap FTE 61-79 - FTE Perf - Holley ID ???? Re: FTE 61-79 - question regarding tranny change Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Steering colunm interchange FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - Holley ID ???? Re: FTE 61-79 - FORD vs cheby Re: FTE 61-79 - question regarding tranny change FTE 61-79 - Re: hard shifting C6 Re: FTE 61-79 - FORD vs cheby Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust manifold repair FTE 61-79 - Shiny Wheels ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 03:06:25 -0800 From: "Deacon" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Kids' Playhouse >So, let me get this straight. You use your kids playhouse to >truck around turkey manure? What do the kids think about this? Don't get me joking about this Marv! I had to bite down hard not to respond to it. Everything I came up with would get me booted off the list. :) They have been funny and that's no ! ;] Deacon deconblu ford-trucks.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~deconblu/ ============================= I have no job. I have no home. I'm up all night, don't go to bed till dawn. I look for the answer at the bottom of the bottle. So don't follow me. I'm no role model! ============================= == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 04:23:47 -0800 From: "Deacon" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Steering colunm interchange From: Randy Collins >The columns will bolt in just fine but I think you will find that the >output shafts are different. Doesn't' the 2 WD have a rag joint and the >4WD have the universal joint setup. Look over the output sections of the >shafts and you will see what I mean. > >It is pretty simple to change the output shafts but the shaft from a tilt >column won't interchange with the standard column. If it's true that the shaft couplers are different, can either be used in place of ? My '73 F100 uses a rag joint coupler that can be removed from the shafts. Can the universal joint coupler also be completely removed from the shafts? Are the shafts the same or are they different depending on the type coupler used? If couplers can interchange, which would be better. It would be my guess that the universal joint setup was used on the 4X's because the rag joint couldn't take the abuse of off-road. The rag joint is probably cheaper so it's used on street trucks. If the universal joint setup isn't interchangeable, can the input shaft be changed in the gear box? Sorry. Just got me thinking. I don't know anything because I don't have my manuals. :,(,, (sniff sniff) Oh the pain of it all. I can't live like this for 5 months! I need my garage! I need my tools! I need my life back! I can't watch any more TV! I need tunes! Why don't motels trash these boob tubes and wire these rooms for sound! Sorry. I'm better now. Steve. Can I come live with you until the house is finished? PLEASE! Sorry. I'm better now.""";;;]""" Deacon deconblu ford-trucks.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~deconblu/ ============================= I have no job. I have no home. I'm up all night, don't go to bed till dawn. I look for the answer at the bottom of the bottle. So don't follow me. I'm no role model! ============================= == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 06:28:08 -0600 From: "myshop" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - valve cover for 6 cyl >Anybody know what was the first year of that embossing and what >was or wasn't on the '65? To find out what your original engine was, look at the 'Truck Rating Plate' that's riveted to the rear face of the left front door and another one should also be mounted on the glove compartment inner panel inside the glove compartment door. Look at the warranty number, the forth alphanumeric character represents the engine code. Here are the engine codes from the 1965 F100 manual: ================================================ Ford 1965 F100 Engine Codes - --------------------------------------- A: 6 Cyl. 330 CID (2V-MD) B: 6 Cyl. 300 CID (1V) D: 8 Cyl. 352 CID (4V) E: 6 Cyl. 330 CID Diesel (DGHM) F: 6 Cyl. 1673 Caterpillar Diesel G: 8 Cyl. 401 CID (2V) H: 8 Cyl. 477 CID (2V) I: 6 Cyl. CF 180 Diesel J: 6 Cyl. 240 CID (1V) K: 8 Cyl. 361 CID (2V) M: 8 Cyl. 330 CID (2V-HD) N: 6 Cyl. C 180 Diesel O: 6 Cyl. 855 CID Cummins (NH-250) P: 8 Cyl. 401 CID (4V) Q: 8 Cyl. 477 CID (4V) R: 8 Cyl. 534 CID (4V) S: 6 Cyl. 200 CID (1V) T: 6 Cyl. 171 CID (1V) V: 6 Cyl. 672 CID Cummins (NH-180) X: 6 Cyl. 743 CID Cummins (NH-220) Y: 6 Cyl. 743 CID Cummins (NH-180) Z: 6 Cyl. 743 CID Cummins (NH-195) 2: 6 Cyl. C 160 Diesel 3: 8 Cyl. 784 CID Cummins (V8-265) 4: 4 Cyl. 220 CID Diesel (DGHM) 6: 6 Cyl. 588 CID Cummins (V6E-195) 7: 8 Cyl. 785 CID Cummins (V8E-235) 8: 6 Cyl. 855 CID Cummins (NHE-225) 9: 8 Cyl. 391 CID (4V) K: 6 Cyl. 300 CID (1V)* S: 8 Cyl. 361 CID (2V)* W: 8 Cyl. 330 CID (2V-MD)* 1: 6 Cyl: 240 CID (1V)* 2: 6 Cyl. 200 CID (1V)* 3: 6 Cyl. 170 CID (1V)* 5: 8 Cyl. 330 CID (2V-HD) * Low Compression == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:35:01 -0500 From: bymybrick juno.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:Chevy vs Fords I am not throwing off on Fords. My '73 F-250 is one tough cookie! I am just saying that it needs more attention than my other truck. I like it because i Can work on it! That's what I like about older vehicles-I don't have to have computer diagnostics to tell me what is wrong. My first car was a '48 chevy-another tough one. My next was a '56 Ford that was my first dating car! I wish i still had it! I could give a lot of '57's all they wanted.( Does this give my age away?). The fastest car I had was a 66 Chevy II SS with a 327-350 HP and a 4-speed. My wife drives a 93 Escort station wagon that she dearly loves. I said all that to say this. I think everyone is partial to one particular brand of vehicle to another. I equate the debate of Fords and Chevy's to the debate between Democrats and Republicans- there isn't a dimes worth of difference beyween them! I love both brands to death and either one beats the stuffing out of walking.! My .02 worth(adjusted for inflation). John Brick by JB ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 06:51:31 -0800 From: "Deacon" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Chevy vs Fords From: John >I am not throwing off on Fords. My '73 F-250 is one tough cookie! I am >just saying that it needs more attention than my other truck. I like it >because i Can work on it! If you drive them both the same, then it's a point not worth arguing. Anything made in '47 would commonly be kept garaged and only driven on weekends around town. If that is the case with your '47 then it's dependability shouldn't be compared with a work truck. Also if a person makes this comparison on a Ford list, they should be prepared for some retaliation for their transgression. :) >I think everyone is partial to one particular brand of vehicle to >another. I equate the debate of Fords and Chevy's to the debate between >Democrats and Republicans- there isn't a dimes worth of difference >between them! I have had a few Chevy's, I'll not miss any of them. I have had trouble with every GM that I've owned. The only other brand vehicle that has given me trouble equal to the GM's is Toyota. My '62 MB was by far the coolest, '70 Bronco was the most fun and my '76 Dodge van,,, I'll skip my favorite thing about it and just say it got me around for years without a problem and was one of the best looking vehicles I've owned. ;] I'll agree there isn't a dimes worth of difference between Democrats and Republicans. Also there are people that have only popularity opinions on both sides of the Ford Vs Chevy debate. There is a difference between Fords and Chevy's though. You know what made the '57 Chevy a classic? Some of them still ran in the '60's. :] Why do so many people drop 350's in Fords? Aftermarket parts! They can build their 350 from parts not made by Chevy but then they need to put it into something that won't fall apart. :] Deacon deconblu ford-trucks.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~deconblu/ ============================= I have no job. I have no home. I'm up all night, don't go to bed till dawn. I look for the answer at the bottom of the bottle. So don't follow me. I'm no role model! ============================= == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:43:59 -0700 From: "Jeff Carver" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Kids' Playhouse What they don't realise, can't hurt 'em. . . . Oh yeah, I'm the dad, It's my job . . . hmm Since these were post election Vote-for-Me signs, they were nicely painted on one side, which I placed to the inside. Not only to hide them's I didn't vote for, but a hose cleans up painted wood real easily. Funny that the latex sign paint isn't affected by the manure, whereas the truck paint was severely affected by it, before the box. Another one of these signs gets placed on the gravel driveway before I work on my vehicles. Very nice to be able to slide around under there, and find those small things that fall, like nuts & bolts. Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab Just hit a birthday, so gettin' older too Much better than the alternative tho >> I recently wrote: >> I made a wooden bedliner for my truck. >> >> Whole thing sits on the >> open rear end in the front yard as a play >> house for the kids when not in use. >> I've carried a full yard of manure in there. > Marv replendently responded: > So, let me get this straight. You use your kids playhouse to > truck around turkey manure? What do the kids think about this? > ;-) > - -Marv- Jus' Gettin' Older, Not Wiser Get your FREE Email at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://personal.lycos.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:45:29 -0500 From: "Robert Hutchinson" Subject: FTE 61-79 - full floating pins Can someone please edumacate me on what is meant by "floating pins" when referring to wrist pins? I've seen it pop up a couple of times in reference to the 400 rebuild and using 351C pistons, and by bushing the rods you end up with a "floating pin", correct? Robert E. Hutchinson hutch297 groupz.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 10:12:20 -0700 From: Randy Collins Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Steering colunm interchange If it's true that the shaft couplers are different, can either be used in place of ? My '73 F100 uses a rag joint coupler that can be removed from the shafts. Can the universal joint coupler also be completely removed from the shafts? Are the shafts the same or are they different depending on the type coupler used? If couplers can interchange, which would be better. You are right the rag joint end and the universal joint end can be removed. So a fella would think the swap can be done this way right? At first glance both splined shafts appear to be the same. Any guesses on how I know this. Only one problem...the shaft for the universal joint has material from the side removed for clearance where the bolt (in the universal joint) clamps down on it. The shaft for the rag joint doesn't have this notch. If the universal joint setup isn't interchangeable, can the input shaft be changed in the gear box? Sorry. Just got me thinking. I don't know anything because I don't have my manuals. Modifications can always be done. I never tried because I found the correct parts to do the swap. I don't think it makes sense to try to locate and modify the steering box when the correct parts can be found. They are out there it just takes persistence. Later, Randy Collins Boise, Idaho rcollins micron.net 1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck" 460 SUPER COBRA JET == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 13:32:01 EST From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Chevy vs Fords I've got to stick my nose in here too. I'm only 19, but I'm a diehard Ford fan for two reasons. The first being I've been building them with m dad for as long as I can remember. I can remember helping set cabs on frames in our garage before I ever started school. The 2nd reason being that during High school, I drove a 68 Ford Galaxie station wagon. Not only was that car able ro take the abuse of a 17 yr old, (things like oil changes every 10k, parking lot burnouts, and neutral drops) I was also the guy they called when all the various cars my friends had broke down had to be towed home. I've towed an olds Omega from Lake Mead due to a blown tranny, a Chevy Chevette due to clutch trouble, my Buddy's 65 Cuda due to electrical fires (several times I might add) a mazda pick-up, and the list goes on. My favorite was a friend had a 78 Chevy Malibu with a 350. He was always braggin bout his 350, well while sitting in front of school, he decided to rev his motor to show off a lil, somethin hung up inside and his motor Grenaded. Blew a hole in the block about 3 inches wide. I loved towin that thing off. I know this is one of those things to argue through the ages, but I know one way to settle it. How many mustangs do you see at the dragstrip with corporate rearends, and Nova front ends? Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 13:58:55 EST From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - "Power by Ford" Valve Cover Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:25:41 -0500--dale rimkunas Wrote: I'm restoring my 65 F-100 and whenever I'm in the boneyard and see straight six Fords the valve covers always have "Powered by Ford" embossed on them. These aren't necessarily mid 60's engines, but mine does not say that. I don't think my engine is the original.....Anybody know what was the first year of that embossing and what was or wasn't on the '65? - --------------------------------------------------------- My 1966 F-250 2wd has a 240ci 6cyl and the valve cover is not embossed. I was told engine original and as far as I can tell it is. --Thom B-- Thom B's F-250 (1967 F-250 4wd) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:57:01 -0800 (PST) From: TheFORDMAN webtv.net Subject: FTE 61-79 - FORD vs cheby SSSHHHHHH! THIS IS FORD COUNTRY, WHERE IN THE STILL OF THE NIGHT, YOU CAN HEAR A CHEVY RUST!!!!!!!!!! OH H LL YEAH!!!!!!!! ERIC 75 F100 RANGER 4X4 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:02:54 PST From: "Brandon Neighbors" Subject: [none] I have a '68 F-100 with a 360 c.i. engine and a three-speed manual transmission on the column. The truck seems to be geared very low; when I get on the interstate, the engine is hollerin' at 70 mph. Is there anything I can do to get some more top-end speed out of it? Nabo ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:42:00 -0800 From: "Pete and Shell" Subject: FTE 61-79 - choke woes I have a 460-4v from a 78 lincoln in my 70 f-250 4x4,and i was wondering if it is possible to change the automatic choke to a manual without changing the whole carb? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:45:14 -0800 From: "Pete and Shell" Subject: FTE 61-79 - front diff swap Does anyone know if the complete front diff out of a late 70's F-250 4x4 will bolt into a 70 F-250 4x4,or will i have to modify it and if so how? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:58:32 -0800 From: "J.S.H." Subject: FTE 61-79 - Wheels/Ford vs. c#$%* "I have a friend who is giving me a set of 8 lug 16.5" slotted aluminum mag wheels off of his C***Y truck. I would like to install them on my '70 Class C Motorhome/E-300 chassis, to replace the factory 16.5"/8 lug wheels.(Yeah, it's kind of a joke, but I'm going for the "musclecar" look, and they'll look great with the BOSS 302 stickers on the fenders!) I've been told they will fit Fords as well as "off brand" trucks. Is this true? I've been thinking of starting with some #0 steel wool" and Comet cleanser, and working my way down to #000, then finishing with some Mothers or Simichrome polish. It will be labor intensive of course. Any suggestions on a better way to R&R?" The wheels should fit without a problem. As far as polishimg goes I think your plan sounds good, but you can use sandpaper(400 then 600) to knock off the initial dirt and oxidation.I would stay away from Naval Jelly type acid based cleaners on alum. wheels.I ended up with streaks on mine that were hard to remove. You are correct it will be labor intensive to get them looking good but I think they will look cool on your motorhome. "I must give credit to my '73 F250. It has made a better mechanic out of me because I have had to work on it more often. My '47 chevy keeps on keeping on." I think you should sell your Ford to someone who would appreciate it and buy yourself another C #$*.If owning the Ford has made you a better mechanic,then owning two c#$% s ought to make you a regular Robert Yates. BTW I did (head bowed in shame) own a c#$ * once. For about six months.Good think I didn't trade my Ford in on it, that way I had transportation while the inferior product was broke down. Made payments on something that didn't run half the time so please don't tell me about c #$* reliability. I could go on, but thinking about my old c #$* is giving me a migrane. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:34:23 -0600 From: "ben" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 400M I replaced the engine in my ' 79 with a 400M. I thought I was taking out a 351M, but it turns out to be a ' 71 400M. It was not running when I bought the truck. Almost all the push rods were bent and the rocker fulcrums were badly worn. But it was just rebuilt, it supposedly only ran a little while before it died. My Questions are, what would cause this? And is this engine worth fixing? Also it has a cam of unknown origin, is there anyway I can tell what the specs are? Because it is in extremly good shape, due to the short time it ran. Could I use new lifters with used push rods, rockers and fulcrums with the cam if I can use it? Sorry for all the questions. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:52:30 -0800 From: Tim Bowman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Steering colunm interchange Deacon: I believe there's a company called Borgeson (sp?) that makes replacement steering joints. Sam Memolo on Sam's Garage on the radio on Saturday mornings (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.radioamerica.org between 9 &11am EST if you have a Real Audio Player) makes frequent mention of the product. Hope this helps. My wife lost her home when she was in high school. Sorry to hear of your loss. Tim Bowman Remember the Reason for the Season == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:05:42 -0800 From: Tim Bowman Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering colunm interchange As a followup to my last post, check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotrodsworldwide.com/makes.htm for Borgeson. They have a number of pretty cool items for sale. Ask them the question re: replacement steering Ujoints. Tim Bowman Tim == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:14:09 -0800 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering colunm interchange http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.borgeson.com - ---------- > From: Tim Bowman > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering colunm interchange > Date: Sunday, December 13, 1998 5:05 PM > > As a followup to my last post, check out > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotrodsworldwide.com/makes.htm for Borgeson. They have a > number of pretty cool items for sale. Ask them the question re: > replacement steering Ujoints. > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:22:30 -0800 From: Tim Bowman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering column interchange Bill: Thanks for the site link, I should have tried that. They have good pictures of their Ford products (I just quickly surveyed that section). Tim == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:17:20 EST From: SHill48337 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - choke woes Just go to your favorite parts store and purchase the manual choke kit. Follow the instructions for installation and you will be in business. Have fun. Burt Hill Kennewick, Wa 1972 F-250 4X4 460 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:27:25 -0800 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust manifold repair Awhile back someone was looking for a fix for a cracked exh manifold. A friend of mine used this stuff and says that it holds up quite well. It's designed for the job. Company: POR-15 Product: Fireseal 2000 Specs: Putty designed to handle temps up to 2000 deg F Cost: $10.00 for 2 one oz pkt Contact: 1 (800) 457-6715 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:33:36 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 3.70 gears are popular in these trucks, swap in a 3.25 chunk. be prepared to lose a lot of get up and go.but your high way rpm will be decreased. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:36:16 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - front diff swap you can get the bill of material # off of both housings and call your local dana drive line dealer, they have books with all this info in it. you maybe better off just buying new parts for yours, they're not as high as you might expect. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:37:39 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - front diff swap i'm sorry i thought you mean't parts interchange. the complete units should work. mods will be minor. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:27:36 -0500 From: cannandale netpointe.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Greetings:71 F100 302 Champion Plugs! I dont think anybody has good luck with those.. :) Nobody I know anyways.. cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 02:51 PM 12/11/98 -0500, you wrote: > >>This one is driving me crazy: >>I just learned that 2 cylinders are not firing!, I've got great steady >>spark, (new >>distributor, cap, wires >>and plugs), > >Have you checked to see if there are sparks there ? One of my friends put >in new plugs and somehow (no idea how) dinked one of the electrodes and it >bent pretty bad, so that cylinder wasn't firing. Also Champion plugs ... >not so good of luck with those around here, not sure if you have those, but >if you do, try two of the old plugs and see if it works. > > > >>Also: >>I'm getting a gurgling sound (metallic) on acceleration, my first thought >>was there was >>something >>jingling around with the clutch, (it sounds like that area), possibly the >>bearing that >>forces the >>clutch pressure plate to engage / disengage. (forgive my lack of terminology). >>This sound is not heard when I accelerate in neutral, which points me toward >>some drive >>train >>problem, but like I said, I'm no expert. >> >Is it the two cylinders that aren't firing causing some pinging ? (firing >intermittantly maybe?) If you're having problems with the engine, I'd wait >to worry about this, unless you think something's going to fly apart, just >to be sure that it wasn't being caused by a rough running engine. > > >>'71 F100 302, (Sea foam Green and Wimbolton White) >> >Wow, got any pics of this ? I think my 73ish is a touch darker, but I've >seen a 74 that I think was this combo ... > > >Just my 2cents > >Bill > >Auto Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/cars.html >'73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/Trucks/truck.html >'96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/Cars/mustang.html >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:43:45 -0500 From: cannandale netpointe.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - brands with a cheby you have no choice.. cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 05:17 PM 12/11/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Mike writes: >>maybe we should buy ch##ys > >I'd rather walk. > >Azie >Ardmore, Al. > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:53:06 -0500 From: cannandale netpointe.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - chevys vs Fords I had (and will never have again) a '79 Cheby 4x4 with a small block 400. Let me go though the list for you. new tie-rod, ball-joints, engine rebuilt, steering arm, gearbox, steering pump, new rear-end (twice), new tranny, transfer case, both driveshafts, back leafs, heater core, and brake booster. This truck had under about 80,000 orgional. Dont get me going on other ppl I know that have cheby's, same story time after time. cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 09:04 AM 12/12/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I've had both and I have both. I must give credit to my '73 F250. It has >made a better mechanic out of me because I have had to work on it more >often. My '47 chevy keeps on keeping on. >Brick by JB > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:10:45 -0500 From: cannandale netpointe.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:Chevy vs Fords Im too am 19, and have been around Fords for as long as I can remember. Heres what conclusions I have came too. Cheby's are made for horsepower, no matter what size engine. Ford could go either way according what engine, but alot more on the low-wnd hig torque scale. I've put my truck in a few truck pulls. I have a basically stock truck (lifted + tires is all), no pulling setup, and have beat every cheby I have came accross, never won, and got beat by only Fords. I know that everybody has the opionions on vehicles, and thats mine. I loyal to FORD, no matter what ppl say, and no matter how many times I have been left on the side of the road (1 time for a fuel pump when I didnt know anything about engines), and how many times I will be. Just a tried and true blue oval fan, and proud! cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 01:40 PM 12/13/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I've got to stick my nose in here too. I'm only 19, but I'm a diehard Ford >fan for two reasons. The first being I've been building them with m dad for >as long as I can remember. I can remember helping set cabs on frames in our >garage before I ever started school. The 2nd reason being that during High >school, I drove a 68 Ford Galaxie station wagon. Not only was that car able >ro take the abuse of a 17 yr old, (things like oil changes every 10k, parking >lot burnouts, and neutral drops) I was also the guy they called when all the >various cars my friends had broke down had to be towed home. I've towed an >olds Omega from Lake Mead due to a blown tranny, a Chevy Chevette due to >clutch trouble, my Buddy's 65 Cuda due to electrical fires (several times I >might add) a mazda pick-up, and the list goes on. My favorite was a friend >had a 78 Chevy Malibu with a 350. He was always braggin bout his 350, well >while sitting in front of school, he decided to rev his motor to show off a >lil, somethin hung up inside and his motor Grenaded. Blew a hole in the block >about 3 inches wide. I loved towin that thing off. > > I know this is one of those things to argue through the ages, but I know one >way to settle it. How many mustangs do you see at the dragstrip with >corporate rearends, and Nova front ends? > >Darrell Duggan >74 F-350 "Tweety" >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:22:28 -0600 From: "Michael R. Masse" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - front diff swap I'm not positive about the F250's, but somewhere around 77 they switched the F150's to reverse rotation differentials up front. If the pinion comes out the bottom 1/2, you're good to go, if it comes out the top your out of luck. Pete and Shell wrote: > > Does anyone know if the complete front diff out of a late 70's F-250 4x4 > will bolt into a 70 F-250 4x4,or will i have to modify it and if so how? > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:28:27 -0700 From: Randy Collins Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE Perf - Holley ID ???? Dale Carmine wrote: The airhorn is stamped with list #3310-1, 2357 is stamped just below. The carb is the standard 4160 750cfm vacuum secondary Holley. It is not an OEM part. I am not sure what the 2357 means. BTW Dale Sorry about the E-Bay auction item. I will look at the bidders closer next time. Later, Randy Collins Boise, Idaho rcollins micron.net 1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck" 460 SUPER COBRA JET == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:27:13 -0800 From: Don Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - question regarding tranny change I did the reverse of what you are going to do. I changed from a 400,np435,np205 to a 400,c6,np205. Off the donor truck you will need the tunnel pan as it will have a hole for the 435 whereas the c6 does not have that hole.You will also need a manual steering column unless you want to have the extra lever on the column. There is a transmission shop near me that does a exchange/rebuild for less then 600 bucks, maybe you would have something near you that would do this as well. The donor truck for my F250 was a F150 shortbed and THAT did cause me problems with driveshaft length (front only) There are 2 different extension housings on the C6 , had i have got the C6 from a longbed (as mine was) I do not think there would have been a problem. Theory sez that it hould work as well the other direction as far as length. I was able to make it work for me but yer mileage may vary. GOOD LUCK and keep us posted. Don At 02:02 AM 12/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >I have a 1978 f-150 4x4 long bed, with a 351m and c6 tranny, and I guess >np205 case. but I want to know >if the transfer case will bolt up to the existing bracket, or if I will >have to make new holes, and also if the drive shaft lenghts are different. >I can take measurements if anyone needs them. Thank you very much in >advance, as I intend on starting this project this weekend. > walter > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html BB chatroom name: broncodon 1979 Bronco Ranger XLT 400 ,C6,NP205,4.11 open diffs,16" wheels LT235/85/R16 Organization: I Cahoot With No One!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:35:57 -0800 From: Don Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Steering colunm interchange hmmmm....i'm not sure if i get this question but i changed from a manual F2504x4 to auto/tilt column from a f1504x4 and don't remember any real problems with it... don At 11:52 PM 12/12/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Does anybody know if a tilt column out of a 79 F150 4x2 automatic will fit >a 79 F150 4x4 automatic that came with a non-tilt column. Will it be a >simple bolt in or are there modifications that will have to be made. > >The columns will bolt in just fine but I think you will find that the >output shafts are different. Doesn't' the 2 WD have a rag joint and the >4WD have the universal joint setup. Look over the output sections of the >shafts and you will see what I mean. > >It is pretty simple to change the output shafts but the shaft from a tilt >column won't interchange with the standard column. > >Wow several answers in one day...I am on a roll! > >Later, > >Randy Collins >Boise, Idaho >rcollins micron.net > >1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck" >460 SUPER COBRA JET > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html BB chatroom name: broncodon 1979 Bronco Ranger XLT 400 ,C6,NP205,4.11 open diffs,16" wheels LT235/85/R16 Organization: I Cahoot With No One!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:49:19 -0700 From: Randy Collins Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - Holley ID ???? The electric choke is interesting; probably a Holley conversion kit as I think these came with a manual choke. The 3310 can be purchased with an electric choke and the Ford automatic kick down linkage. They are fairly inexpensive also. I think the sell for around $200 to $250 or so... Later, Randy Collins Boise, Idaho rcollins micron.net 1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck" 460 SUPER COBRA JET == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:16:09 PST From: "Tim Neasham" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FORD vs cheby I'm going to make some simple statements, followed by a simpler request. I'm new to the list, so if I offend, please accept my apology now. It's obvious that most of us here like/love our Fords, and wouldn't trade them for the world. It's reasonable to assume, there are Chevy owners who feel the same way about their vehicles. We've all heard stories about Fords that never die, and Chevy's that can't make it around the block. There are probably as many stories like this going around on a Chevy "list" as well, but with bullet-proof Chevy's and dead Fords. Now, my request. Can we skip the "Ford Vs. Chevy" debate? It's never going to end, and it's never going to do any good. It's akin to debating religion. You aren't going to convince someone one way or the other by saying mine's better than yours. Whether you say it once, or a million times, nothing changes. (Stepping of my Soapbox) Thanks. Tim Neasham '74 & '76 F-250's Benton City, Washington ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:40:50 -0500 From: j arnold Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - question regarding tranny change Before you go putting a standard into your truck, especially if you don't want one, I think you should look a little harder for a c-6. they are a pretty common find around here, and if you have an "m" block, a c-6 off a 429/460 will work as well. not sure, but maybe c-6's off other engines too. would be a shame for you to have to put your truck through all that and not be satisfied with the results...also, is your pre-existing c-6 rebuildable? a tranny rebuild will cost you much less than a full r&r, especially from auto to standard... - --Bud (son of Stoney) 1979 F-250 429 Police Interceptor, T-18 1976 F-100 302, 3-speed (For Sale) At 08:27 PM 12/13/98 -0800, you wrote: >I did the reverse of what you are going to do. I changed from a >400,np435,np205 to a 400,c6,np205. >Off the donor truck you will need the tunnel pan as it will have a hole for >the 435 whereas the c6 does not have that hole.You will also need a manual >steering column unless you want to have the extra lever on the column. >There is a transmission shop near me that does a exchange/rebuild for less >then 600 bucks, maybe you would have something near you that would do this >as well. >The donor truck for my F250 was a F150 shortbed and THAT did cause me >problems with driveshaft length (front only) > There are 2 different extension housings on the C6 , had i have got the C6 >from a longbed (as mine was) I do not think there would have been a >problem. Theory sez that it hould work as well the other direction as far >as length. > I was able to make it work for me but yer mileage may vary. >GOOD LUCK and keep us posted. >Don > > > >At 02:02 AM 12/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >>I have a 1978 f-150 4x4 long bed, with a 351m and c6 tranny, and I guess >>np205 case. but I want to know >>if the transfer case will bolt up to the existing bracket, or if I will >>have to make new holes, and also if the drive shaft lenghts are different. >>I can take measurements if anyone needs them. Thank you very much in >>advance, as I intend on starting this project this weekend. >> walter >> >>== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > >BB chatroom name: broncodon >1979 Bronco Ranger XLT >400 ,C6,NP205,4.11 open diffs,16" wheels LT235/85/R16 >Organization: I Cahoot With No One!! >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:37:46 -0800 From: Vogt Family Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: hard shifting C6 On Sun, 13 Dec 1998 00:01:29 EST, YELLERTIM aol.com wrote: > > I would like to know how do I find out what kind of transmission I have. I > have a 1968 Ford F-250 camper special and I need to find out what kind of > tranny I have so that I can put a new shift kit in it. Just crawl under it and let us know what the pan is shaped like. That is how automatic transmissions are generally identified. It would also help if you'd tell us what year it is. Birken == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:38:39 EST From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FORD vs cheby In a message dated 12/13/98 10:19:04 PM MST, neasham hotmail.com writes: going to end, and it's never going to do any good. >> Its not quite that simple. Debating this fulfills a male sort of pride. Something similar to Locker room strutting, and bar talk. Its something that we all know cannot be proven, but take great joy in Trying to. I love a good debate. whether its gun laws, or speed limits on highways. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and everyone "knows" that theirs is right. But to try and stifle that would take a lot of fun out of this list. I'm actually proud that the gentleman with the 47 Chevy had the guts to say what he did. I think I'd like to sit down and have a couple of beers with him and argue this face to face. That would be fun. Stepping off the tailgate, offering it to the next man, or woman. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:14:08 -0500 From: Tony Marino Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust manifold repair Yeah, Actually that was for one of my friend's truck! I've used POR-15.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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