61-79-list-digest Friday, December 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 555



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Ford Front Fender Freight Fun
Re: FTE 61-79 - intrument cluster
Re: FTE 61-79 - carb for 300 six
Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering
FTE 61-79 - complant
RE: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering
FTE 61-79 - 1970 F-250 4x4 460 swap
FTE 61-79 - Ford Front Fender Freight Fun....one more chapter
FTE 61-79 - Re: "Eggs" in the Radiator
Re: FTE 61-79 - complant
FTE 61-79 - No Mail Today
FTE 61-79 - F-150 Seat covers
FTE 61-79 - 70 Truck Manuals
FTE 61-79 - Smog check help
FTE 61-79 - instrument cluster
Re: FTE 61-79 - instrument cluster
FTE 61-79 - C6 Help
Re: FTE 61-79 - complant
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: "Eggs" in the Radiator

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:35:49 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford Front Fender Freight Fun

Another update in the 73-79 fender saga.....I had refused two shipments from
JCW (both fenders were bent each time)....I then cancelled that order and
ordered a set from Mill Supply in Cleveland....(these were the exact same
Taiwan brand fenders as JCW, by the way "Jui Li Enterprises"). Mill Supply did
package the fenders better, but lo and behold, one of them was still buckled,
while the other was in mint condition. The way they are packaged at the
factory leaves the inside "corners" of the fenderwells subject to buckling. It
appears that some kind of stiffener at the bottom might cure this problem. Out
of six fenders I've had shipped, five were buckled. Leads me to believe that
they might be getting damaged between Taiwan and the U.S. instead of between
the Midwest and Colorado....

I sent a fax to Mill Supply yesterday explaining my story.....I have no reason
to think that they won't replace the one buckled fender without any
trouble......I'll post more as we go.....

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:04:46 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - intrument cluster

The Freeman Family wrote:
>
> I've heard of this before. The oil, temp and fuel guage peg out, but the
> truck runs fine. Mine did the same thing on an '97 Ranger. The ammeter did
> not fluctuate nor did anything else except those three guages. My problem
> was a faulty IVR. Seems to be a common problem on the '87 Ranger. I forgot
> what I paid for it, but I got it directly from Ford.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> -Ted

My friends 78 did this and my 87 Escort GT did too! Seems to be one of
the weak links at Ford!
Chris
94 Lightning #381
The only needle that pegs in this truck is the speedo!!!
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:49:48 PST
From: "Jerald Merrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - carb for 300 six

I would have to say if you are looking for reliability, that the best
would be an autolite 1bbl carb. they not fancy but they are hard to
beat, especialy when it is -20 out side.
J. A. Merrick
Wyoming
Mr. Ranger

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>Anybody got an opinion (as if I didn't know) on the best kind of carb
for
>my 1970 F-100? I'm looking for practicality and reliability as opposed
to
>horsepower. It's got a remanufactured 300 inline six (early 80's
vintage),
>but the carb is the original Motorcraft 1-barrel with a manual choke
and
>oilbath air filter. The plate at the bottom (butterfly?) is shot and
the
>idle is variable, sometimes surging. I'd rather switch over to a paper
>element air filter with the new carb since the bracket that holds the
>oilbath is broken. How much should I expect to pay, what are the
>considerations, etc.?
>
>Thanks as usual -- Gene Gardner, Texican Teacher
> Hermosillo, Mexico
>
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:54:19 PST
From: "Jerald Merrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering

The last 240 that I can remember seeing in a pickup was in the 71
models, there wasn't very many because of the 300 push.
J. A. Merrick
Wyoming
Mr. Ranger

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>Actually... What was the last year for the 240?
>
>Tony
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>At 12:28 PM 12/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>Occasionally I open my mouth and stupidity flows out... Must be the
stress
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>>My humblest appologies.
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>>Tony
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>>>Tony writes: >>I'm pretty sure the first 300 was available in '70
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:09:10 PST
From: "Jerald Merrick"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - complant

Howdy from Wyoming

Well I guess it's not really a complant, but I am really but I am going
to voice my opinion. I keep hearing about the FE's and how they are
great engins. Well I agree with that, I love the FE's. But I am sick
and tired of hearing only about 352's, 390's, and 428's. Yea they are
great rodding engines that can take a lot of punishment. But what about
the 360's. Every one I know always puts the 360 down, They are just as
strong as any of the other FE's. I have a 71 F-100 with a 360 backed by
a C4. I can Get on the thing all day long, and pull just about any
thing. It's one of the best engins Ford has produced, It's so good it
was the only FE not to be shared with the Ford line of cars. Just a
thought
J. A. Merrick
Wyoming
Mr. Ranger

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:31:00 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering

Just to ad to the info, I once had a 1974 half-ton with a 240 and three on
the tree. Plenty of torque, good mileage, good engine. I rebuilt the
engine, my first and only engine build so far, and it ran great. It was the
original engine. I think I still have a crank and maybe a cam for a 240
around. Rick p.s. I clipped a lot of the previous
messages/replies before I sent this.

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> From: Jerald Merrick[SMTP:jeraldmerrick hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 9:54 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering
>
> The last 240 that I can remember seeing in a pickup was in the 71
> models, there wasn't very many because of the 300 push.
> J. A. Merrick
> Wyoming
> Mr. Ranger
>
>
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:46:35 -0800
From: "Pete and Shell"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1970 F-250 4x4 460 swap

does anyone know where or how to get the proper motor mounts and/or frame
perches to swap from a 360 to a 460? Any info would be greatly
appreciated,thanks

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:47:02 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford Front Fender Freight Fun....one more chapter

OK, spoke with Mill Supply today. They had already shipped me a new fender and
will be having the delivery service (RPS) pick up the bent unit!....The person
handling my case (Bob) was very apologetic and very professional. I was
impressed. I have since discovered boot prints on the package....an indication
the box was used as a step, probably in a delivery van somewhere....Bob
explained that they always open all of the fender packages when they arrive
there to be sure that they are in good condition before they are shipped to
the customer....

I should mention that I had faxed them a letter explaining the situation. I am
finding that dealing with companies via fax is VERY effective.....

Now, I hope to send in the last chapter when the last fender gets here in good
condition!!!!!!

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000
From: Marv Miller
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: "Eggs" in the Radiator

> David Wadson wrote:

> I've considered that idea but

> I don't think that's what it is. The rad was cradled in the box by big,

> solid pieces of foam covered in plastic wrap.

> Also, when I picked some of the things out, they weren't little solid
> plastic bits. They were more like a translucent jelly around a slightly
> harder center.

The last time I saw this kind of thing was after I put ethelene glycol anti-freeze
in an engine that someone had previously "egg dipped". Egg dip is a liguid that
farmers used to (yes!) dip their chickens' eggs into as a preservative. It's some
sodium (silicate) compound that acts very effectively as a block sealer. It masks
a blown head gasket sometimes when an unscrupulous car seller needs to make
a quick buck. (See article on sawdust and banana peels in howling differentials).
It is soluable in water, and if you use the old alcohol-type anti-freeze,
(probably not available any more) it's soluable in that, too. It is NOT compatable

with glycol-type anti-freeze, and will immediately form the small beads you
describe.

Could this be what you're seeing?

- -Marv-
(Am I really getting this old?)

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:26:38 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - complant

>Well I guess it's not really a complant, but I am really but I am going
>to voice my opinion. I keep hearing about the FE's and how they are
>great engins. Well I agree with that, I love the FE's. But I am sick

Sorry, I know I've mentioned a lot of 390 stuff lately, but that's because
I have the 360 and just want more torque. Its not that the 360 won't do
what I'm tryin to do (drive back and forth to work mostly), just that I'm a
power junkie, so I would really prefer to have more :)

The 360 was great when I got it 5 years ago, and it has served me well,
headers and a 4v really wake this engine up. But now it is very tired, and
I would rather have more power, so for a similar price I've decided to fix
up a 390. It also has the bonus of being a bolt in swap.

As for 360 not being shared with the cars, this is actually a handicap. By
sharing it with the cars, you've introduced a whole new after market to
them. Though most things from the 390 will work on the 360, there are
things that won't.

All in all, as long as its an FE its a good engine right ? :) Around here
I'm just happy to find a guy who knows Fords.


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:42:11, -0500
From: BBMZ31A prodigy.com ( MICHAEL N BIGBY)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - No Mail Today

Has the list gone down? Have not received any mail today.

Mike Bigby

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:47:13 EST
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-150 Seat covers

I have been looking for a new seat cover for my 1979 F-350 4x4. I have found
an awesome place that makes them. It is called "PETE'S SEATS" in Roanoke
Rapids, NC. His mailing address is: PETE'S SEATS.......PO Box
2004........Roanoke Rapids, NC 27870 The phone number is: 1-800-25-SEATS I
live in New Jersey and he comes to the Englishtown's Raceway Parks Swap Meet.
His covers are top notch....just remove factory ripped junk and install new
one. Give him a call!!!! Wayne Grabley
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:07:40 -0500
From: "The Freeman Family"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 70 Truck Manuals

I've been seeing a lot of truck manuals at ebay fairly cheap. I bought a
set for my '68 for $25. I paid nearly $100 for my old fairlane manuals.
Hope some one here gets a deal. I've included a link if anyone is
intrested.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=47676144

PS- In no way am I affiliated with ebay or the owner of the manuals.

- -Ted


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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:13:54 -0800
From: gpark cymer.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Smog check help

Well, after 7 years of absolutly faithful service, I'm passing the keys of
my '77 351M F150 onto a friend. I'm getting 2 grand from him, and he's
getting a truck with 91,000 original miles on it. I've put a TON of money
into this truck, but I enjoyed every minute of it. I'm sick like that I
guess. You guys have helped me through a bunch of puzzles over the last
year or so. Azie, Dave R are two who come to my mind right off, but there
are more of you, and you know who you are. Special thanks to our esteemed
list-master, also.

I'm going to be on the Injected-plastic list (the new truck guys) since I'm
getting a 95 F250 with 114,000 miles on it. I know a lot of you think
that's crazy in itself, and I won't argue too much. The price is right,
though, at $7,200. gonna have to learn about Mass air, and TPS, and all
that other crazy stuff, God help me.
I am going to maintain my sub here though, cause I've learned a heck of a
lot, and am loath to give that up just yet.

Anyway, to get the point, the last ride, so to speak, will be to get a smog
check. The Calif. smog police now require a dyno test, and I'm worried
that it's going to make her flunk. It's pretty scary out here, to tell you
the truth. I'm half expecting the inspectors to start wearing arm bands
with black eagles on them.
She's got all her stock smog stuff on it. The timing is at spec (12 btdc).
I want to do every little thing I can to help her put best foot forward, so
to speak, so any tips are most appreciated.
Take care.
Gregg



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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:14:55 -0600
From: "ben"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - instrument cluster

Does anybody know where the voltage regulator is for the gauges on a '79
F-150? I Called the dealership and they told me $30 for a new one. They
couldn't tell me where it is. And the only thing I could see that looks
somthing like one is a little metal box on the back of the gauge cluster. I
find it hard to believe that little box thing on the back of the gauge
cluster cost that much.

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 98 19:34:23 -0700
From: "Manuel Costa"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - instrument cluster

Sirs:

I am looking for information about tires and wheels for a '67 Ford
pickup. I currently have a set of 30x9.50R15 (on stock wheels), but I
would like to put "fatter" mud and snow tires on it. Am I looking at
getting new wheels? I want the same diameter tires, or slightly bigger
(like 31"), but just with a wider cross-section. Anyone here have any
suggestions?

Thanks,

M.C.
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:29:20 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - C6 Help

Well, I was trying to button up my C6 tonight and I got hung up at the
low/reverse clutch piston springs. Seems I am missing some sort of
piece that went between the stamped piece that holds down the springs
and the roller clutch inner race. Can anyone tell me what I should be
looking for? It has been weeks since I took it apart so I can't
remember. I won't be able to get paperwork until Tuesday. Help me
please!

Birken
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:41:30 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - complant

From: William S Hart

>As for 360 not being shared with the cars, this is actually a handicap. By
>sharing it with the cars, you've introduced a whole new after market to
>them. Though most things from the 390 will work on the 360, there are
>things that won't.

What wouldn't work on an FE360 that would work on an FE390? I thought the
only difference between the two were the connecting rods and the crank. I
also thought these were bolt-in for changing a 360 to a 390.

Best thing about knowledge is, you can never know it all! :)


Deacon Blues
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:10:17 -0800
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: "Eggs" in the Radiator

>-Marv-
>(Am I really getting this old?)

Well Marv, your making me feel like a kid again. According to my mail reader
you sent this message Dec. 31, 1969. That makes me 14 and the summer of love
was a few months ago. :} I missed the Jefferson Airplane concert again. But
there's still plenty of parties! Yo, Dennis & Steve. Lets get the bus
painted and head out for the bay! ;>L



Deacon Blues
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