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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, December 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 553 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE390 flywheel wanted FTE 61-79 - Re: F-Series--1964 6 Cylinder offerings RE: FTE 61-79 - 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 FTE 61-79 - FE390 Flywheel Wanted FTE 61-79 - 71 and 72 seat differences FTE 61-79 - F-150 seat covers FTE 61-79 - 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING Re: FTE 61-79 - water pump Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 to 72 model seat differences Re: FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion Re: FTE 61-79 - M series flat tops FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-71 to 72 model seat differences FTE 61-79 - Pwr steering FTE 61-79 - Flywheel ring gear FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering Re: FTE 61-79 - M series flat tops FTE 61-79 - Interesting Anti-Theft Method FTE 61-79 - seat covers FTE 61-79 - flipping seats Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING Re: FTE 61-79 - 240 cu. in. FTE 61-79 - Re: 71 and 72 seat differences Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 to 72 model seat differences Re: FTE 61-79 - flipping seats FTE 61-79 - JCW Front Fenders Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING FTE 61-79 - correct URL for speedliner FTE 61-79 - carb for 300 six FTE 61-79 - Transmission kick-down Re: FTE 61-79 - Complete steering failure! FTE 61-79 - intrument cluster Re: FTE 61-79 - 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering Re: FTE 61-79 - JCW Front Fenders FTE 61-79 - Re: 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 Re: FTE 61-79 - Transmission kick-down Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING Re: FTE 61-79 - Transmission kick-down Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-71 to 72 model seat differences Re: FTE 61-79 - FE390 flywheel wanted FTE 61-79 - '67 Ford Truck Stolen, Returned 20 years Later FTE 61-79 - Rear End Help ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 05:54:49 -0600 From: "J Elliott" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE390 flywheel wanted Isnt the ring gear pressed onto the flywheel? If so all you need to do is buy a ring gear and have it put on. (Unless you can heat the gear up untill its hot enough to drop on) TheFORDMAN webtv.net wrote: > > hey all, > i'm in need of a flywheel w/ good ring gear mine is eating up starters John Lord wrote: >Isnt the ring gear pressed onto the flywheel? If so all you need to do is buy a ring gear and have it put on. >(Unless you can heat the gear up untill its hot enough to drop on) ditto. Never done a Ford, but one of those dang D(*&^n's: 1. Get new ring gear. 2. Whack old one several times between two teeth with a cold chisel and a BIG hammer till it breaks. 3. Remove old ring gear. 4. Put old flywheel in freezer till COLD. 5. Put new ring gear in oven set as hot as it will get, and bake till at that temp. 6. Put on THICK, WELL INSULATED GLOVES. 7. Remove flywheel from freezer and put on some safe supporting surface (i.e. NOT the dining room table). 8. Remove ring gear from oven. 9. Place HOT ring gear on COLD flywheel. The temperature differential should be enough to let it slide on, if not, place wood between ring gear and hammer and whack it a few times. 10. Let it all come back to room temperature. Should do it. Of course, it will then raise the question, how good are the teeth on your starter compared to the nice new ones on your ring gear? Jim E. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:25:03 EST From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: F-Series--1964 6 Cylinder offerings At 01:37 AM 12/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >Can anyone advise which 6 cylinder engines were available for the 1964 >model year. Also when was the 300 six first introduced? >Thanks Greg - ---------------------------------------------------- For F-Series Pick-ups: In 1964, Ford offered the "Mileage Maker Six," a 223 ci.; an optional 262 ci was available as an option. The 300 ci was first introduced in 1965 as an option. The standard that year was the 240 ci. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:34:48 -0500 From: "Kenny Realph" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 The first 300 was in 65. The 64 had a 262. Kenny == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 07:57:00 -0500 From: j arnold Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE390 Flywheel Wanted 'TheFORDMAN webtv.net wrote: > > hey all, > i'm in need of a flywheel w/ good ring gear mine is eating up starters > .my engine is a > 390 501 casting manual trans It seems to me that the 390 was Ford's workhorse engine for about 20 years. Construction, wreckers, dumps, all the heavy duty stuff was 390's with standard trans. Every junkyard I've been to here (Kentucky) and in Texas always had bunches of 390 flywheels lying around, usually pay about 15 or 20 dollars and you pick it. I use the same flywheel on 460's and everyone I've seen was neutrally weighted (not balanced), One 0f the FE gurus can tell you if that's always true. If so, the only difference between any other flywheel and yours would be the hole position to bolt your pressure plate on. Take it with you to junkyard, find one with good ringgear, and matches your pressure plate and your in business. Stoney == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 07:28:11 -0600 (CST) From: Stu Varner Subject: FTE 61-79 - 71 and 72 seat differences >Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 21:40:55 EST >From: JUMPINFORD aol.com >Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 to 72 model seat differences > >As I recall, the seats are stationary if the truck has a cab fuel tank. Those >with the tank under the bed had moveable seats. > >Darrell Duggan >74 F-350 "Tweety" Tweety, My 71 has an in cab fuel tank and no secondary tank under the bed........seat flips forward. It was the early 70's when they built it.....reckon they partied to much the night before? Stu Nuke GM! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu Humpty Dumpty was pushed! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:15:41 -0600 From: John Strauss Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-150 seat covers >Hi all, anybody know where a guy can find a replacement seat cover for a >Ford truck seat ? One that goes on the way the factory covers do,( FIT ) not >a "slip over" unit from Wal-mart. The only ones I've seen that look even >close are from Whitney. Anybody had any luck with those ? Or any others ? > Call Custom Interiors at 800-423-6053 and ask for a catalog. You will find many of the better JCW covers come from them and are marked up quite a bit. _ _| ~~. John Strauss \, *_} jstrauss inetport.com \( Texas Fight! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:15:40 -0600 From: John Strauss Subject: FTE 61-79 - 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 >>Can anyone advise which 6 cylinder engines were available for the 1964 >>model year. Also when was the 300 six first introduced? >>Thanks Greg >> In '64 the standard 6-cylinder engine was a 223 and optional was 262. > >I'm pretty sure the first 300 was available in '70 > According to the Ford Pickup Red Book the first year for the 300 was 1965. _ _| ~~. John Strauss \, *_} jstrauss inetport.com \( Texas Fight! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:42:16 -0600 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING >The static buildup from the PUMPING of >gas into a plastic gas container in the bed >of a plastic bedliner can cause a spark >and ignite. Newspaper article where I get >gas prominently posted concerning this >subject. > >Fill plastic gas containers on the ground. This is always good advice, wouldn't want to overflow and spill on your truck would you ? :) But I do have a question, how on earth do you get static build up with no metal parts around ? I saw an article on some news show once about this, and I didn't get it then either ... where does the spark come from ? plastic to plastic ? And as my smarta$$ EE office mate just said "by definition static electricity can't start fires, its static!" Just my 2cents Bill Auto Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/cars.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Trucks/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Cars/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:53:23 -0600 From: Larry Schmiedekamp Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - water pump David Could these egg-like balls be a shipping peanut that got busted up going through the water pump? >When we went to drain some of the water out and add >antifreeze, I noticed soft, round egg-like balls sitting in the top of the >rad. There wasn't a whole lot there but there might have been more down >inside the rad. While I had the truck sitting with water in it, I'm pretty >sure the rad cap wasn't on most of the time. I had the hood installed at >that point and never thought that perhaps some kind of insect might lay >eggs in my rad. Engine heat hasn't seemed to have broken down those round >egg things so I'm not sure what happened to all of them...probably in my >heater core. > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:57:22 -0600 From: Larry Schmiedekamp Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 to 72 model seat differences My 74 f350 has in cab fuel tank and the seat fold forward. At 09:40 PM 12/7/98 EST, you wrote: >As I recall, the seats are stationary if the truck has a cab fuel tank. Those >with the tank under the bed had moveable seats. > >Darrell Duggan >74 F-350 "Tweety" >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 10:18:28 -0500 From: cannandale netpointe.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion Thanks!!!! whats yer email address, i just get 61-79-list stuff... cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 09:54 PM 12/7/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I'll rip that Pully and clutch off tomorrow or Wed. Depends on the work >schedule. As Far as I know Serpentines only have one idler pulley that is >either adjustable, or spring loaded to keep tension on the belt. I don't >remember which this on had as I just tore everything off I didn't need. Only >saved the AC compressor on a whim. If you could send me an E-mail privately >with your address I will Get that shipped off to ya, all I ask is you >reimburse me for the shipping, the rest is a X-mas gift. > >Darrell Duggan >74 F-350 "Tweety" >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:49:00 -0800 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - M series flat tops If you read the buildup on the 400 in Hot Rod mag they shaved the heads .025 to get the 9.45:1 CR with stock .030 over Kb Silv-0-Lite pistons. - ---------- > From: luxjo thecore.com > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - M series flat tops > Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 12:43 PM > > Dave > > If you remember we were talking about cams and V/P clearance a while > back. Hopefully, I'll be doing my 400 build this winter. I'd like to get > it up to 9.0:1 and was wondering about having the heads shaved. Would > this be enough to increase comp that much. Also, how would shaving the > head play into the max .490 cam lift you said I could og before I would > need new valve springs? One final question, what do you think of cams > rated off idle or 500 RPM to 4500 RPM. This truck, at this point, only > sees severe off-road duty (deep mud) and driving back and forth to the > trails == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:51:06 -0700 From: "Richard Currit" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-71 to 72 model seat differences >As I recall, the seats are stationary if the >truck has a cab fuel tank. = Those >with the tank under the bed had moveable >seats. FWIW as a data point, my '72 F-100 has the gas tank behind the seat and = the seat flips forward. It all appears to be original. How hard is it to = install auxillary tanks? Where do you find them other than the bone = yard?=20 High Plains Richard '72 F-100=20 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:53:56 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Pwr steering Justin writes: >>Did power steering come out in 3 speed on the column trucks Don't know about early '70 vintages, but in 1976 they did... I knew of at least 3 that had pwr steering and 3 sp on column. One was 302 - 2 were 360's. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:05:52 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Flywheel ring gear Eric writes: >>i'm in need of a flywheel w/ good ring gear mine is eating up starters .my engine is a 390 501 casting manual trans unit. any help would be greatly appreciated. Any decent parts place can get you a new ring for your flywheel, and any local automotive machine/welding shop can take your old one off and install the new one for you. Get on the phone and start calling around for the best prices. Most automotive machine/welding shops will also order the ring for you. Azie Ardmore, Al == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:08:06 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering Tony writes: >>I'm pretty sure the first 300 was available in '70 My brother in law has a '64 F250 with 300 six and a '68 F600 with 300 six. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:17:07 -0800 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - M series flat tops - ---------- > From: Dave Resch > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - M series flat tops > Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 10:21 AM > > Yo Bill & Steve: > > When the 400 was introduced in 1971, it came w/ a flat top piston rated for > 9.0:1 compression, but I have not been able to find a major piston > manufacturer that still makes an OEM replacement for the 1971 flat top 400 > piston. > I'd settle for a minor piston mfgr. How about custom? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:20:05 -0500 From: adam.hicks ppctx.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Interesting Anti-Theft Method My father never was too worried about having his older cars and trucks stolen, but he'd always wire up a relay with a hidden switch that intermingled the ignition with the horn, so when he left the car, he'd reach under the dash or seat and flip the switch. Then if anyone tried to turn the key, it would honk the horn each time... Also, somebody (and for some reason it seems like it was K&N oddly enough) makes a heavy duty switch the runs inline with your solenoid to open or close the circuit. Pretty simple, and you can semi-hide the swith... it's a HEAVY duty thing made for that purpose. I have an aftermarket Gem-Tank on mine, so I just turn the gas off (which somebody mentioned earlier, and I thank them for the idea, as I had never thought of it!) Adam == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:36:29 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - seat covers pdesanto asked about seat covers I have the diamond design velour covers from JC Whitney. They are designed to tie on with strings so that you can get them off to wash them (ad says machine washable). I put mine on with hog rings. If anyone messes them up, I don't figure the blood would come out anyway (that's a joke, guys, a joke). They fit well and look nice. I have had lots of compliments. They do not cover the entire seat like a factory cover. Down around the hinge there is some open area though very slight. They have been in the truck about two years and have worn well so far. You will probably have to go to an upholstery shop to find factory covers and they may have to be custom made. I plan to get some more pictures on my web site at the end of December. I have several interior shots and a before paint job shot. Sorry, I just don't have time to post them before then. - -John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:46:10 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - flipping seats My theory is that it had something to do with the gas tank being behind the seat. If you had a gas tank in the cab, the original seat probably wasn't hinged. If the tanks were elsewhere, then the seat probably was hinged. Again this is theory, but it holds true on GM trucks. - -John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:28:12 -0500 From: Tony Marino Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering Occasionally I open my mouth and stupidity flows out... Must be the stress of college finals. My humblest appologies. Tony At 11:08 AM 12/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >Tony writes: >>I'm pretty sure the first 300 was available in '70 > >My brother in law has a '64 F250 with 300 six and a '68 F600 with 300 six. > >Azie >Ardmore, Al. > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:31:46 -0800 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING >>Fill plastic gas containers on the ground. >This is always good advice, wouldn't want to overflow and spill on your >truck would you ? :) >But I do have a question, how on earth do you get static build up with no >metal parts around ? I saw an article on some news show once about this, >and I didn't get it then either ... where does the spark come from ? >plastic to plastic ? Yes, plastic to plastic. If there was any metal, then the static energy can bleed away. If you don't believe that you can build a static charge between two insulators, take some of your wife/girlfriends nylons and rub your cat with them for a while. The static charge will make all those little hairs stand right on end! And you can sometimes get a nice spark between the tip of your finger and the tip of your cats ear. They *really* hate that... Don't refuel plastic gas cans in a plastic bed liner. >And as my smarta$$ EE office mate just said "by definition static >electricity can't start fires, its static!" Uh huh. Tell that to a bolt of lightning... (-: Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. -- F. P. Jones == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:31:45 -0800 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 240 cu. in. At 04:53 PM 12/5/98 -0600, you wrote: >Hi. I have a '67 F100 with a 240 in it. This summer I had to rebuild it and >I had it bored out 60 over. What would the engine size be now. Stock = 4.00"bore x 3.18" stroke = 239.77 CID + .060" = 4.06" x 3.18" = 247.01 CID > Also I >would like to learn how to get more power out of it. There's definately more power available in the Ford big sixes... The stock intake system is really horrible for performance. Get a Clifford Performance catalog and look into a different intake manifold with a 2-bbl or small 4-bbl carb. A nice cam and headers along with the decent intake tract will make a big difference in performance. Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. -- F. P. Jones == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:39:25 -0800 (PST) From: Pat Brown Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 71 and 72 seat differences Darrell claimed: > As I recall, the seats are stationary if the truck has a cab fuel tank. > Those with the tank under the bed had moveable seats. And Stu countered: > My 71 has an in cab fuel tank and no secondary tank under the > bed........seat flips forward. It was the early 70's when they built > it.....reckon they partied to much the night before? Well, it's only a '70, but the back seat on my crew cab does flip forward, and the only tank is in the cab. I was going to suggest the flip seat was an option, but I don't believe any optional equipment was installed on this truck (Custom Cab), except the FE360. - -- Pat Brown Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:44:52 EST From: bobherring juno.com (Bobby D Herring) Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 to 72 model seat differences I have a 72 short/wide with what I think is the original seat and the behind the seat tank and the top flips forward. Bobby Herring '64 F100 short-wide, was 292 Y-block/3speed, motor in pieces, make me an offer '72 F100 400/C6 in progress '93 Ranger V6/Auto/Super cab >From: Stu Varner >I have been tearing apart SWMBO grandfather's '72 effie the last few days >and when I snatched the seat out, I noticed it does not flip forward like >the '71 model I have. A few months back I pondered buying a '72 LWB while >the '71 was being restored, I noticed the same thing. Just curious if >others have noticed this difference. Anyone with an original seat from a 71 >or 72 that doesn't work as I have described?? Anyone have a reason why the >seats changed at the end of 71?? > >From: Mike Pacheco >Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 to 72 model seat differences >I don't know about 71, but my 72 seat flips forward, at least the top half does. >Mike in Seattle > >From: JUMPINFORD aol.com >Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 to 72 model seat differences >As I recall, the seats are stationary if the truck has a cab fuel tank. Those >with the tank under the bed had moveable seats. >Darrell Duggan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:12:08 -0700 From: "Larry Brown" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - flipping seats I have had Ford trucks in '69, '70, 71, and '75 models and all had the standard behind seat fuel tank and the seats flip foward. I do not think I have seen a Ford truck seat that did not. Just my experance of course. Larry - ----- Original Message ----- From: John LaGrone To: Ford Trucks 61-79 Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 9:46 AM Subject: FTE 61-79 - flipping seats >My theory is that it had something to do with the gas tank being behind the >seat. If you had a gas tank in the cab, the original seat probably wasn't >hinged. If the tanks were elsewhere, then the seat probably was hinged. >Again this is theory, but it holds true on GM trucks. > > >-John > >jlagrone ford-trucks.com >1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) >http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm >Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 13:43:15 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - JCW Front Fenders Little update on fenders I ordered from JCW. I had to refuse shipment on the first set because of inadequate packaging...both fenders were bent pretty bad when they arrived here. JCW automatically re-sent another pair....and guess what....SAME DEAL. I called and cancelled my order and told them to package their fenders better..... Ordered another set from Mill Supply in Cleveland....not much more expensive, but they say they are packaged better....I'll update when I get them. By the way, the person and Mill Supply told me that virtually all of these "crash parts" are now being made in Taiwan..... Colorado Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 14:15:27 -0500 From: Tony Marino Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering Actually... What was the last year for the 240? Tony At 12:28 PM 12/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >Occasionally I open my mouth and stupidity flows out... Must be the stress >of college finals. > >My humblest appologies. > >Tony > >>Tony writes: >>I'm pretty sure the first 300 was available in '70 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:46:28 -0700 From: "Andrew W. Ford - Speaking For Myself" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING sdelanty sonic.net wrote: > >>Fill plastic gas containers on the ground. > >This is always good advice, wouldn't want to overflow and spill on your > >truck would you ? :) > > >But I do have a question, how on earth do you get static build up with no > >metal parts around ? I saw an article on some news show once about this, > >and I didn't get it then either ... where does the spark come from ? > >plastic to plastic ? The build up comes from electrical isolation from ground. Much like rubber soled tennis shoes on carpet. The rubber tires on vehicles insulate it from the ground. Ground leads on most pumps are now internal, but there used be a few which add external ground straps from the nozzle to the pump base - this created a ground path from the fuel filler top to ground. The reason that all gas pumps say "shut off engine" is because the ground isolated battery can create charge too great for the ground path provided. > Yes, plastic to plastic. If there was any metal, then the static energy > can bleed away. If you don't believe that you can build a static charge > Clarification, if there was a metal path TO PUMP GROUND, the static energy can bleed away. > Don't refuel plastic gas cans in a plastic bed liner. Or in a steel bed, either. > >And as my smarta$$ EE office mate just said "by definition static > >electricity can't start fires, its static!" Remind him that static electricitiy is the potential for a shock, the shock itself only happens when you put that potential in motion. 8^) 78 F150 Ranger 4x4 Supercab / 351M C6 - -- Andrew Ford (602)581-4499 forda agcs.com Si vis pacem, parabellum. Above is *my* opinion, for theirs see below... AG Communication Systems - Expand the power of your network. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.agcs.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:44:00 EST From: Phazelag aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - correct URL for speedliner I checked the address www.speedliner.com it is for Industrial polymers the maker of speedliner. If your still having problems, do a web search for speedliner, spray-on bedliners, or industrial polymers. I prefer Yahoo at www.yahoo.com Good luck == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:22:30 -0700 From: Gene Gardner Subject: FTE 61-79 - carb for 300 six Anybody got an opinion (as if I didn't know) on the best kind of carb for my 1970 F-100? I'm looking for practicality and reliability as opposed to horsepower. It's got a remanufactured 300 inline six (early 80's vintage), but the carb is the original Motorcraft 1-barrel with a manual choke and oilbath air filter. The plate at the bottom (butterfly?) is shot and the idle is variable, sometimes surging. I'd rather switch over to a paper element air filter with the new carb since the bracket that holds the oilbath is broken. How much should I expect to pay, what are the considerations, etc.? Thanks as usual -- Gene Gardner, Texican Teacher Hermosillo, Mexico == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:02:02 -0600 From: sjacobi fd9ns01.okladot.state.ok.us Subject: FTE 61-79 - Transmission kick-down I have got a '67 2wd F100 with a 460 and C-6 transmission. Since day one it has not had a transmission kick-down lever. This is liveable with the notable exception that the shift points are a little too soon when you really jump on it. My Mopar co-worker claims that he has a kick-down cable on his 727 tranny in his Coronet. He got it from a company called Lokar? Does anyone have any experience and/or suggestions in this area? My transmission guy said that he could build up one, but due to space problems it wouldn't be easy. He gave me one of those looks like "don't ask me to do this during Christmas". Steve == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:37:20 EST From: TORO12332 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Complete steering failure! does anyone know where I can get a hold of a steering box for a 79 f150 2wd? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:02:11 -0600 From: "ben" Subject: FTE 61-79 - intrument cluster In my '79 F-150 the oil, temp, and fuel gauge needles go all the way over to one side until they hit and stop when the ignition switch is on. I tried another instrument cluster that I knew worked but still the same. Checked fuses too. Also where is the ground for the instrument cluster? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks to Pat Brown for helping me out, because now my dash lights work!! Email--> stevee itis.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:20:52 -0500 From: Lord_Xaenon Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 At 04:36 PM 12/7/98 -0500, you wrote: >I'm pretty sure the first 300 was available in '70 > I think the first 300s were introduced in 1965. The 240 also debuted that year, not only in the trucks but in the full-size Galaxies and Custom 500s as the base engine. Prior to that, most Ford trucks and full-sized cars had the 223 inline-six as a base engine, which was first introduced in the 1952 model year, and was also produced (if memory serves) in 215 and 262 cubic-inch configurations. Incidentally, that 223 was Ford's first production OHV engine. The first Ford production OHV V8 followed in 1954, though Lincoln had an OHV V8 in 1952. Mark == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:29:53 -0500 From: Lord_Xaenon Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six offering At 02:15 PM 12/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >Actually... What was the last year for the 240? In trucks, 1973 (allegedly it was still available until 1979, but I can't find anything to support that). Mark. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:24:36 -0600 From: Ed Mulligan Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - JCW Front Fenders Very odd. . . My dad ordered a fender for his (non-Ford) pickup and it arrived no problem the first time. It looked fine on the truck once it was painted at the local vo-tech. I'd order from them unless I was doing a real restoration where I wanted actual factory parts. $50 was a good price for a fender. Ed At 01:43 PM 12/8/98 EST, BDIJXS aol.com wrote: >Little update on fenders I ordered from JCW. I had to refuse shipment on the >first set because of inadequate packaging...both fenders were bent pretty bad >when they arrived here. JCW automatically re-sent another pair....and guess >what....SAME DEAL. I called and cancelled my order and told them to package >their fenders better..... Ed & Laura Mulligan mulligan fullnet.net VISIT THE FLATHEAD FORD V-8 SITE - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.fullnet.net/mulligan/ '92 5.0 LX I love the sound of Flowmasters in the morning! '98 Contour SE - Black/tinted - Darth Vader Jr., your car is ready. "Sometimes it is better to light a flamethrower than to curse the darkness." == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:25:13 -0700 From: "Jeff Carver" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 Here are all the engines found in the official 1964 100-350 series Ford repair manual: Six cylinder 144 223 262 Eight cylinder 292 Just for yucks and grins here are the Engine Codes in case the ID plate is still there and you want to know what was original. J = 223-IV B = 262-IV C = 292-2V S = 144-IV 4 = 220-Diesel Ford (DGHM) Low Compression I = 223-IV K = 144-IV L = 292-2V I don't know what IV or 2V mean. Hope that helps. I'd be pleased to provide other 1964 data as found in this nifty book. Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab w/ 292 V8 ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Can anyone advise which 6 cylinder engines were available for the 1964 model year. Also when was the 300 six first introduced? Thanks Greg Get your FREE Email at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://personal.lycos.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:02:08 -0500 From: cannandale netpointe.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Transmission kick-down They are really pretty simple to make, If you can find one that matches on somebody elses vehilce, you can bend one out of some small conduit, or any kinda pipe that will bend with a tool.. thats what I done.. cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 06:11 PM 12/8/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I have got a '67 2wd F100 with a 460 and C-6 transmission. Since day one >it has not had a transmission kick-down lever. This is liveable with the >notable exception that the shift points are a little too soon when you >really jump on it. My Mopar co-worker claims that he has a kick-down cable >on his 727 tranny in his Coronet. He got it from a company called Lokar? >Does anyone have any experience and/or suggestions in this area? My >transmission guy said that he could build up one, but due to space problems >it wouldn't be easy. He gave me one of those looks like "don't ask me to >do this during Christmas". > >Steve > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:09:45 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING > >But I do have a question, how on earth do you get static build up with no >metal parts around ? You don't need metal. Lightning is a great example. Or running on the carpet with socks or combing your hair with a plastic comb. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:30:07 -0800 From: Tim Bowman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Transmission kick-down Try a kick down out of a '79 Ford Van with a 460 and C6 (There may be other years with the C6, but there are lots of those vans in wrecking yards). I was just replacing the neutral safety switch on mine and it ocurred that this might be an option for you. Tim Bowman '71 Sport Custom & a whole stable of FOMOCO's == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 20:41:36 -0600 From: Michael Schwall Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Bedliner WARNING >But I do have a question, how on earth do you get static build up with no >metal parts around ? I saw an article on some news show once about this, >and I didn't get it then either ... where does the spark come from ? >plastic to plastic ? >Bill Falling gas produces static electricity. A chemistry major could explain the therory (any on the list?). I know how it is formed, but I can't quite explain it (need those technical terms and names). Pretty much the same way we get lightning. Hope that helped, Mike == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:58:05 -0800 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 6 cylinder engine in 64 F100 Thanks for your message at 05:25 PM 12/8/98 -0700, Jeff Carver. Your message was: >I don't know what IV or 2V mean. 1 barrel or 2 barrel carb. Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:32:35 -0800 From: rsas juno.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-71 to 72 model seat differences I am only catching a glimps of your conversation, but my 64' F100 has the gas tank behind the seat, and it also has a hinged seat that also slides forward. It is origional. I appologize, I don't know what year you are referring to. Randy Bellingham, WA 64 Ford F100. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:35:44 EST From: SHill48337 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE390 flywheel wanted As already mentioned by a list member replacing the gear is within most peoples capabilities. Last winter I replaced one on a 360, after I broke the old gear off, I talked my wife into letting me heat the new gear in the oven at 450 for 30 minutes (same size as a pizza and the new gear is clean). At the same time I had the flywheel in the deep freeze. The deep freeze is in the basement, I did not think it prudent to tell my wife that part. Away after 30 minutes I removed the gear from the oven with my wife's hot pads and sat it in place on the flywheel. I had to wait a while for the temperatures to equalize to lock the gear in place. It took about 10 minutes before the gear was locked onto the wheel tight enough for me to move it without it falling off. Makes me think the deep freeze may not be necessary. New starter ring gear cost $25 at NAPA. If you have a small grinder you can use that to weaken the gear to the point where it will break very easily. Have fun. Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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