61-79-list-digest Thursday, December 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 546



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: List split issue
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: A note on language
FTE 61-79 - Theft
Re: FTE 61-79 - Theft
FTE 61-79 - list split
Re: FTE 61-79 - List Split
RE: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana-60 fulltime front axle to partime conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 Brakes Lights
FTE 61-79 - VICTORY DECLARED over FE exhaust manifold bolts!
Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help
FTE 61-79 - Full Time Hubs
Re: FTE 61-79 - '78 Bronco Emissions
FTE 61-79 - F-100 Steering wheels and rag joints
FTE 61-79 - split, boo hoo
Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 Brakes Lights
FTE 61-79 - 360-390 help please
FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-Torque/HP Specs
Re: FTE 61-79 - 360-390 help please
FTE 61-79 - Changes in '65
FTE 61-79 - Return mail
Re: FTE 61-79 - New member, New Truck, Bunch of Q's
FTE 61-79 - Dishonesty
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-Torque/HP Specs
FTE 61-79 - Bed liners for a classic = a sin?
FTE 61-79 - HeaTER CORE REPLACE
Re: FTE 61-79 - Return mail
Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help
Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help
Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help
Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help
Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help
Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help
FTE 61-79 - Complete steering failure!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Bed liners for a classic = a sin?
Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help
FTE 61-79 - FTE: New '66 Ford owner
ADMIN: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help
Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 05:58:35 -0700
From: Jim White
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: List split issue

> If the people unhappy with traffic have 65 and up trucks, they will be

> unhappy with the new list also. 90% of what I see is 65 and up stuff,
> unless I'm missing something. If 65 and up are mechanically the same,
> I'd be open to that change, although I'd miss some of the really good
> general knowledge from many pre-65 truck owners ... ...OX

I agree with what OX had to say on this issue. I think it's a lose-lose
situation IMHO. I don't think any of the more popular splits are really
going to reduce the traffic any just due to the general mix and
interests of this group. The only thing that could possibly reduce
trafffic would be a split such as 61-72 / 73-79 and that really wouldn't
be popular with anyone. Are there really TOO many posts to this
thread?! I think this is the most informative and well administered
thread I've ever been involved in.

Jim
65 F100 2wd 300ci-6

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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 08:04:57 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: A note on language

This email is not targeted at any individual, rather it
is presented to all list members as a friendly reminder.

Over the past several days, there have been postings on
some of the groups containing inappropriate language.
While my language in my personal life isn't always as
clean as it should be, I maintain (and so does Keith Srb,
admin of several of the lists) a standard on the lists
so that they'll be appropriate for all audiences.

I want to remind everyone that we have people from all
walks of life and all age groups on our lists. Ford
Truck Enthusiasts does not censor content nor moderate
message activity. However, because we are a forum
available to the public, we do have filters in place to
reject emails containing certain words.

Getting around these filters with ***, --- and other
such characters defeats the purpose of the filters.
While saying "I made an *ss of myself" is appropriate,
using the "s" and "f" words is not. Although the TV
networks don't have the highest standards, they do
maintain some standards. So the rule of thumb is if
they don't say it on afternoon TV (ie, when the kids
are watching), then it doesn't belong on FTE.

Regards,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:20:16 -0500 (EST)
From: jdklaers mailhost.magicnet.net (PredFan)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Theft

OK, so lets say I finally get my '71 F-100 short bed stepside with the wood
deck fully restored.

Do I need to break a sweat worrying about theft? We all know how easy it is
to get into them without a key, and hot-wiring them should also be easy
especially since the space to work in is so accommodating.

If it's a major concern, what do we do about it? It's not like we can
easily get them replaced.

John


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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 05:43:20 -0800
From: Mike Pacheco
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Theft

I went ahead a put a nice alarm in my 72', motion detector also.. works great,
if I leave my windows open and someone reaches inside the alarm go off...it
also warns people if there is motion in front of the glass areas..

Mike in Seattle

PredFan wrote:

> OK, so lets say I finally get my '71 F-100 short bed stepside with the wood
> deck fully restored.
>
> Do I need to break a sweat worrying about theft? We all know how easy it is
> to get into them without a key, and hot-wiring them should also be easy
> especially since the space to work in is so accommodating.
>
> If it's a major concern, what do we do about it? It's not like we can
> easily get them replaced.
>
> John
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:42:33 -0600
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - list split

I, too, can see the increase in volume and understand the need to split.
Any of the splits presented so far would be acceptable to me. It also
appears that some of the posters have not been snipping enough.


- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 06:08:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Arlene Mason
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - List Split

Hey, smile when you talk about my truck that way!! ;)

(I'm smiling too)

Arlene

- ---wiregoat juno.com wrote:
>
> An outstanding idea. I propose a list for "How do I keep my oil
blowin',
> oil burnin', rabbit chasin', gas guzzling, rust flaking Ford going
down
> the down and not falling over in my driveway?". This would work
nicely
> for us digest lurkers.
> ___________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:15:55 -0800
From: Jim Pliss
Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana-60 fulltime front axle to partime conversion

Sorry had the caps lock on accidentally. Would like to see the 60 in closed knuckle though.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tony Marino [SMTP:tony pscico.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 12:04 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana-60 fulltime front axle to partime conversion

AARGH!! STOP SHOUTING AT ME!!! 8-) *slap!*

He he he- Yeah, I know the difference between a 60 and a 44, I've got three
44's in 3 trucks I own and have 2 60's. All of which I've had apart, and
bought parts for! (grin) I'll put the pic's up this weekend!

Tony

At 05:39 PM 12/2/98 -0800, you wrote:
>hOW MANY SPLINES ARE ON THE AXLES I DONT BELIEVE DANA MADE A 60 SERIES
>FRONT END IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES. TRY TO FIND THE BILL OF MATERIAL NUMBER
>OFF THE HOUSING I CAN THEN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT HE HAS. THE HD44 DOES LOOK
>LIKE A 60 BUT THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I HAVE A 73 F250 WITH THE HD
>FRONT END. THE KING PIN BEARINGS LOOK LIKE THEY ARE WHEEL BEARINGS FOR A
>2WD TRUCK AND THE INNER AND OUTER WHEEL BEAINGS ARE 2 DIFFERENT SIZES WITH
>THE INNER LOOKING MORE LIKE A FULL FLOATER WHEEL BEARING ON THE REAR.
>PRETTY GOOD SETUP EXCEPT THE KNUCKLE SEALS ALWAYS LEAK A LITTLE NO MATTER
>WHAT YOU DO. IF YOU CAN GET THE BILL OF MATERIAL NUMBER SHOULD BE ON THE
>HOUSING BUT ON MOST OLDER UNITS HAS BEEN ON A TAG ATTACHED TO THE COVER
>LIKKE A HOLD DOWN PLATE. ALSO ON THE WEBBING BETWEEN THE CARRIER PART OF
>THE HOUSING AND THE AXLE PART OF THE HOUSING YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND AN
>IDENTIFIER THIS WILL TELL YOU IF IT IS A 44 OR 60.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tony Marino [SMTP:tony pscico.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 1:40 PM
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana-60 fulltime
>front axle to partime conversion
>
>Yeah, I never would have believed it either, until my friend bought that
>truck and for sure when I saw the other one. Definitly 60's. When we
>ordered new ring/pinion bearing and seals kits the only person who carried
>the stuff was Winer Motors (people who I have mentioned before) and they
>said something about it being a special "military setup" option from the
>factory in the early seventies that you could get this particular style of
>from axle. I don't have any literature to verify this, but.....
>
>Tony
>
>At 02:57 PM 12/2/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>I have never heard of a dana 60 with external lockout hubs and closed
>>knuckle. This was actually a dana 44 HD same as I have. Drum Brakes and
>all
>>and in 75 or 76 there was a dana 44 with disk brakes and the External
>Hubs.
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 06:21:35 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 Brakes Lights

Thanks for your message at 10:03 PM 12/2/98 -0800, O'Connor. Your message was:
>Peter wrote:
>Speaking of brakes again, the brake lights do not light up when the
>brake pedal is pushed...the lights do come one when the parking lights
>are one, but they do not glow brighter when the brake is pushed
>(dual-stage bulb is required?)...does anyone have an idea where to start
>on solving this problem???


As silly as this may seem, don't forget the obvious (as I recently did on
my 66). Check the fuses. The box should be located under the dash just
to the left of the steering column. Now I'm trying to remember. Are the
brake lights fused? I know the turn signals are...


Dennis L. Pearson

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ctc.edu/~dpearson.index.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ctc.edu/~dpearson/popcult.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/lyrics.htm
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 08:24:41 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - VICTORY DECLARED over FE exhaust manifold bolts!

Thanks to all your tips, and I used every one, I have successfully removed
all the exhaust manifold bolts from my '68 360 without any drilling or
easy-out. Here's what I did:

1) Started spraying Marvel Penetrating Oil on top of the upper bolts (the
ones with the threads exposed). Did this every other day or so for almost
2 weeks.
2) Used a 14mm 6-point socket and a 3/8" rachet to try to remove them cold
as I didn't want to apply too much torque. All the upper bolts on the
right side came out this way. I think this might have been because the
threads on that side were recessed so quite a bit of penetrating oil was
able to well up there and seep down. Tried the lowers on that side, they
all came out too. So the right side was off with little trouble.
3) Tried the same on the left but only one upper and two lowers bolt came.
So I hit each boss with a large brass drift a few whacks on the uppers, got
one more that way.
4) Used an impact wrench on the two remaining lowers that were at the rear
of the engine and got 'em. Couldn't reach any others.
5) Now I have just two uppers left. So I break out the propane torch and
heat the boss, then give it another whack. I get one and break the head
off the other (damn!) but the manifold is now off.
6) OK, so now I have just one bolt remaining and I have already broken the
head of it off. I can take it out with a pipe wrench, but I cannot afford
to have it break again flush and ruin the whole deal. So I came up with a
little trick of my own. Here's what I did: I drilled a little hole into
the boss at a 90 degree angle to the bolt and at a depth I estimated would
just hit the bolt. This gave me a way to get more penetrating oil in there
as the threads at the top were flush with the boss such that most of the
penetrating oil I sprayed on it just ran off. So I filled this hole with
penetrating oil every other day or so for another week. Last night I used
a pipe wrench on it and it came pretty easy with no heat.

So, there you go. I used every trick you guys came up with and even added
one of my own just to give me a real sense of satisfaction. I know this
takes a lot of time and if you are doing it on your daily driver you can't
really take this route due to time constraints. Luckily this truck is just
a toy for me right now so I had the time to burn.

Thanks so much to everyone for your helpful hints, I used them ALL.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:25:50 -0600 (CST)
From: bkirking bcm.tmc.edu
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

Peter,
Looks like I was close on the brake light info, but not exact.
The switch on my truck is inside the engine compartment on the front of
the brake cylinder. Its right there with 2 wires coming off of it and its not
hard to find.

With key on, disconnect the wires and hook them to a voltmeter, should
read about 12 Volts. Then put an ohm meter (or continuity testor) on the
switch terminals and see if its 0 or 0.1 when pedal is pushed, and infinite
when pedal is not pushed.

The bulb number from the shop manual is 1157, but it will most likely be
easier if you just take one or yours down to Napa or HiLo and get one
the looks the same. It is a double function type, so I guess there are 2
elements in the bulb?

I'll email you later with some of the other stuff we talked about.

See Ya!

Bryan Kirking
66 Step Side
352 4 speed
Houston, Texas


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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:28:46 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Full Time Hubs

Good note on the Warn hubs working on that Trak-Lok 44HD.....I was checking
out a set at the local 4x4 shop, and the Warns will allow you to always turn
the knob, even if they don't engage immediately. If the cogs are lined up
exactly, they will engage/disengage when the wheel (or axle) turns.....pretty
good design....

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 09:10:34 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '78 Bronco Emissions

Syber wrote:
>
> Can anyone give me an authorative answer as to what a '78 Bronco came with
> as far as emissions go?
>

EGR, PCV with breather in air cleaner, and hot air intake off manifold.

OX
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:25:41 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-100 Steering wheels and rag joints

>In a message dated 12/2/98 7:09:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dcbeatty rmi.net
>writes:

>>

>Can you describe this gap? I may have the same thing on the column of my
'79.
>I don't know what I'm looking at, so I can't really recognise a "problem"
with
>it - It just looks weird........

The gap is between the steering wheel and the part of the column that
houses the turn signal cams. Mine was so far out I could see the cam in
there. Undoing the clamps and shoving the whole mess down fixed it for me.

Also, you wanted to know about rag joints. The little felt/rubber disk by
itself is available at NAPA for cheap--less than $15 I think. It doesn't
have the metal coupling to it, though. If only the rag joint is worn this
will work fine.

Last time I checked, Ford wanted $70 for the whole mess. Yikes!

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 08:50:36 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - split, boo hoo

> The restructuring
>would be to make the pre61 into a 64 and older list
>and the the 61-79 list into a 65-79 list. In the
>future, further splitting may be required, but there's
>a point where knowledge is diluted by too many splits.

I am saddened. BUT, As a matter of necessity I know it (the split) must be
done. I am very much like Drew Beatty or Don Grossman, can't remember
which, who posted earlier, I also remember when the only list involved was
the Ford Truck Mailing list with a handful of members. Those were the
days!! Harry and Deacon hashing it out(bad joke). It has evolved and grown
and changed. Thankfully, the 61-79 list has kept its wonderful personality.
**Loosing** the personality of the 61-79 list is what I fear more than
anything. If we have to split, I vote for the 65-79 group.

It is all MY VVVHO!!

Stu
Nuke GM!
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:53:23 -0600 (CST)
From: bkirking bcm.tmc.edu
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 Brakes Lights

Dennis Pearson [dpearson ctc.edu] wrote:

>> Now I'm trying to remember. Are the
brake lights fused? I know the turn signals are...

According to Fig. 2- Fuse Panel - Light Truck and Bus (in Ford Shop
Manual) there are 5 fuses:

heater (20A), Radio and Turn Signal (14A), Inst Lamp (2A), Dome (**),
Cigar ltr (14A). The ** on dome is because the picture shows 9A but
there is an arrow pointing to the dome fuse that says 7.5A
Bryan Kirking
66 Step Side
352 4 speed
Houston, Texas


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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:14:57 -0600
From: juredd - Justin Reddell
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 360-390 help please

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you all. I don't dial in from home much. Well I am amazed at the encouragement I am getting. You people are great. I was hoping that the message that I posted yesterday wouldn't bite me in the butt. When I mentioned that they had not returned my calls or email, in the back of my mind I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they might be on vacation or something. Which seems to be the case. They emailed me last night but since I rarely go online from home (family time) I didn't find it until this morning. Even better than that I took a shot at calling them again last night. Low and behold someone picked up the phone. I spoke to his wife and she said that she was sorry they had been on vacation. I had explained what I had found out and she said gave me some other options to try. I think I have no where else to go I have tried everything to make this a 390 but unless I have missed something it is a 360. Anyway her son is who !
sold me the motor and he is out of town until Saturday. I am supposed to receive a call from him then.
I apologize to the list if I handled this thing wrong and jumped to conclusions to quick. I went to the extent of getting all the email together, a copy of the check and looking for phone bills with their # on it. I know it is far from over but a least the ball is rolling. They were very nice on the phone so maybe it want be like pulling teeth to get this worked out. But what now. Do I ask for my money back plus shipping or do I ask for enough money to switch out cranks, connecting rods, have the rods pressed of the pistons and gaskets costs to put it back together or what? Thanks for sticking with me on this. The support has been great.

Justin
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 08:24:22 -0700
From: "Richard Currit"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-Torque/HP Specs

Hey guys, is there a web page or something thats lists all the different =
Ford Engines peak torque and HP ratings? I am looking for the specs (peak =
torque what RPM and peak HP what RPM) for the 240 straight six -vs- the =
300 straight six. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
High Plains Richard
72 F-100

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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:09:08 -0500
From: Mark Heidotting
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 360-390 help please

juredd - Justin Reddell wrote:
>
> Sorry it took me so long to get back to you all. I don't dial in from home much. Well I am amazed at the encouragement I am getting. You people are great. I was hoping that the message that I posted yesterday wouldn't bite me in the butt. When I mentioned that they had not returned my calls or email, in the back of my mind I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they might be on vacation or something. Which seems to be the case. They emailed me last night but since I rarely go online from home (family time) I didn't find it until this morning. Even better than that I took a shot at calling them again last night. Low and behold someone picked up the phone. I spoke to his wife and she said that she was sorry they had been on vacation. I had explained what I had found out and she said gave me some other options to try. I think I have no where else to go I have tried everything to make this a 390 but unless I have missed something it is a 360. Anyway her son is who !
> !
> sold me the motor and he is out of town until Saturday. I am supposed to receive a call from him then.
> I apologize to the list if I handled this thing wrong and jumped to conclusions to quick. I went to the extent of getting all the email together, a copy of the check and looking for phone bills with their # on it. I know it is far from over but a least the ball is rolling. They were very nice on the phone so maybe it want be like pulling teeth to get this worked out. But what now. Do I ask for my money back plus shipping or do I ask for enough money to switch out cranks, connecting rods, have the rods pressed of the pistons and gaskets costs to put it back together or what? Thanks for sticking with me on this. The support has been great.

Hmmm...that's a tough question. Personally, I'd be shipping the engine
back, but that costs $$$$ and of course time. Having a shop swap in
a crank/rods/pistons might actually be easier overall, but there's
still the issue of labor and time. Talk with the guy when (if) he
calls, figure out a plan, and try to get it in writing. It might just
be that the guy looked at the engine and thought it was a 390. I'm
still not totally convinced that he didn't try to screw you, though.

Let's find out when (if) he calls you, and we'll see about how willing
he is to work with you to resolve the situation. Just to have the
option, go check with a local machine shop about what it would cost
to have the rods/pistons/crank swapped out. It never hurts to be
ready for him.

Hope this works out...

Mark.
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:25:23 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Changes in '65

Ox writes: >>What changed in 65?

Introduction of twin I beam suspension. Introduction of FE for trucks.
Frame changed (I think).
Introduction of synchronized transmission (manual).
Can't think of any more, but there probably are several.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:37:13 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Return mail

Ox writes: >> I hate having mailing lists setup that when you hit
return mail, it returns to orig poster, but it does make you think if
you need to return the post to the whole list or not.

The whole list usually benefits from answers to specific persons requests..
Let me give a for instance here. I've followed the "AMP METER" thread
fully. Never posted one thing about it in any form or fashion, but have
gained a great amount of knowledge here that I fully intend to put to good
use on 3 old Ford trucks. The original sender's address is there if you
want to copy/paste it, so for selfish reasons I do not support the idea of
return mail going to the original sender".
Selfish - Selfish - Selfish !!! Yes.

Azie
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 11:46:45 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New member, New Truck, Bunch of Q's

>Yeah, I think you have to keep a minimum of about 25psi in
>them and they are at 15 right now. I think they are going to
>go eventually. I am pretty sure the overload springs don't
>take effect until the truck is loaded down.
>
That's true, the overloads (depending how they're installed) shouldn't do
more than rattle unless your regular springs are failing, or you've got a load.


>Does your '73 have any blocks between the springs and axle?
>
Yep, sure do. Unfortunately none of my web site pictures actually show
them. I'm not sure if they're stock or not (the running gear is actually
74, check out the web site for the info on that). But it seems like mine
are shaped like a door stop with a block on the back of them. That is they
are square where they are mounted to the axle, then have ramp looking
things facing the front I think ...

If you would like I can get my roommates digital camera and get some pics
in the next day or so ...

>I am very happy with the motor. I don't really have anything to
>compare it to so I don't know if it is more torquey than stock.
>I get 11-12 mpg, more if strictly highway driving. I have towed
>a 3000 lb boat and trailer on mountain roads very comfortably.
>When you get on it it has plenty of top end and has a really nice
>sound. I expect the F-100 is a bit lighter so it should be lots
>of fun with this motor in it.
>
Cool, that's what I wanted to know. Just got a 76 390 that I'm going to
put in mine, and am lookin for suggestions for what to do to it to make it
a "better" engine. I don't do anything cool with my truck, just drive it
through the snow between the house and my destination (whatever that may
be) during the winter, and goof off with it the other days of the year.


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:49:34 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dishonesty

Justin writes: >>So as some of you said I got screwed on this deal. I was
hoping to prove you wrong but no luck. The worst thing about it is I
talked with the guys about this motor over the phone before I bought it and
everything sounded good. I had the sucker shipped all the way from
Eastport ME, 378.00 bucks. Not to mention what the motor cost. I just
never thought that I should ask what the casting #'s where before I bought
it. I try to take people at their word. Their word just doesn't seem be
any good any more. Go figure. Now they want even return my calls or
email. OK I will quiet telling my sob story now. Thanks for the help.
You all went out of your way.

If you have correspondence that identifies the seller and the engine as a
390, then you have a good case for a lawyer!!!!!!!!!! Otherwise - chalk it
up to experience. Even so, I would try to get me a lawyer to write him a
letter advising him you are demanding your money back as well as the
freight cost for original delivery. What he did is FRAUD, which carries a
fairly stiff sentence here in AL.

Sorry..

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:51:10 -0700
From: Jim White
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list-Torque/HP Specs

> Hey guys, is there a web page or something thats lists all the
different Ford Engines > peak torque and HP ratings? I am looking for
the specs (peak torque what RPM and > peak HP what RPM) for the 240
straight six -vs- the 300 straight six. Any help > appreciated.
Thanks.
> High Plains Richard
> 72 F-100

Found a lot of great information of the following link called "Vince's
60's Ford Page"

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/8824/

Browse down into the link called VIN identification and he has scanned
in info from the shop manuals which includes the quoted hp. rpm data
that you are looking for at least in the 60s vintage engines. I am not
sure how much these specs changed over time as changes to the motors
were made.

.. Jim
65 F100 2wd 300ci6

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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:03:19 PST
From: "P.J. Brusa"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bed liners for a classic = a sin?

Ok, need some advice here. Has anyone messed with those spray-in type
of bed liners on their trucks? Should I stay away from this type with a
soon-to-be classic '66? I don't even know if they can be removed when
installed....hmmm.

On another note, does anyone know of a company who makes a plastic liner
for older Fords? Can't seem to locate any locally or on the net.

- -Peter Brusa
Atlanta, GA
'66 Ford F-100/352

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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:10:24 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - HeaTER CORE REPLACE

Adam Hicks writes: >>The question is, have any of you done it? I know
it's a pain in the a$$, but is it something I should even attempt?

Been quite a while since I've done one, but I see no reason why a fairly
talented person couldn't do it. It has 5 or six studs that stick thru the
firewall from the inside to under the hood. Seems as if 1 or 2 of them are
pretty well hiden. Remove the nuts - make sure the inside wiring and
mechanicals are off and start wiggleing(?) and pulling and twisting and ---
well you know. It's a tight squeeze, but it will come out without removing
the dash. Then getting to the core is pretty simple. Putting the assy back
in is tougher than getting it out. Gotta line up all that ducting for A/C
and defroster.

Good luck.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:20:03 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Return mail

am14 daimlerchrysler.com wrote:
>
> Ox writes: >> I hate having mailing lists setup that when you hit
> return mail, it returns to orig poster, but it does make you think if
> you need to return the post to the whole list or not.
>
> The whole list usually benefits from answers to specific persons requests..
> Let me give a for instance here. I've followed the "AMP METER" thread
> fully. Never posted one thing about it in any form or fashion, but have
> gained a great amount of knowledge here that I fully intend to put to good
> use on 3 old Ford trucks. The original sender's address is there if you
> want to copy/paste it, so for selfish reasons I do not support the idea of
> return mail going to the original sender".
> Selfish - Selfish - Selfish !!! Yes.

Hey!, I don't either, but I don't want the list split up. I get 300
E-mails a day and I love it all. Some say joining 2 lists is the same as
being on one combined list. I say no way, the persons who are now on the
list and don't sign up for both are not ever gonna be talkin to the guys
on the other list ever again (most likely). On year specific threads it
does not matter, but get on a good theoretical thread about tire repair
patches, or something and your only gonna get half the story you used to
get. The other guys on other list won't even be involved.

OX
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:40:16 PST
From: "P.J. Brusa"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

Bryan, you know, I think I was looking at that thing last night....is it
right at the firewall with two leads on top? Looks like a small
cylinder?

Sorry, but I still do not have a service manual or chiltons yet...This
sucks.

I will check for voltage...I looked at the bulbs and they look
fine....two elements in them, just that the one does not light up,
hence, a bad switch I woudl assume.

Now, where do I find a switch to replace it with...if in fact it is a
switch and not wiring.

- -Peter

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>Peter,
> Looks like I was close on the brake light info, but not exact.
>The switch on my truck is inside the engine compartment on the front of
>the brake cylinder. Its right there with 2 wires coming off of it and
its not
>hard to find.
>
>With key on, disconnect the wires and hook them to a voltmeter, should
>read about 12 Volts. Then put an ohm meter (or continuity testor) on
the
>switch terminals and see if its 0 or 0.1 when pedal is pushed, and
infinite
>when pedal is not pushed.
>
>The bulb number from the shop manual is 1157, but it will most likely
be
>easier if you just take one or yours down to Napa or HiLo and get one
>the looks the same. It is a double function type, so I guess there are
2
>elements in the bulb?
>
>I'll email you later with some of the other stuff we talked about.
>
>See Ya!
>
>Bryan Kirking
>66 Step Side
>352 4 speed
>Houston, Texas
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:40:16 PST
From: "P.J. Brusa"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

Bryan, you know, I think I was looking at that thing last night....is it
right at the firewall with two leads on top? Looks like a small
cylinder?

Sorry, but I still do not have a service manual or chiltons yet...This
sucks.

I will check for voltage...I looked at the bulbs and they look
fine....two elements in them, just that the one does not light up,
hence, a bad switch I woudl assume.

Now, where do I find a switch to replace it with...if in fact it is a
switch and not wiring.

- -Peter

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>Peter,
> Looks like I was close on the brake light info, but not exact.
>The switch on my truck is inside the engine compartment on the front of
>the brake cylinder. Its right there with 2 wires coming off of it and
its not
>hard to find.
>
>With key on, disconnect the wires and hook them to a voltmeter, should
>read about 12 Volts. Then put an ohm meter (or continuity testor) on
the
>switch terminals and see if its 0 or 0.1 when pedal is pushed, and
infinite
>when pedal is not pushed.
>
>The bulb number from the shop manual is 1157, but it will most likely
be
>easier if you just take one or yours down to Napa or HiLo and get one
>the looks the same. It is a double function type, so I guess there are
2
>elements in the bulb?
>
>I'll email you later with some of the other stuff we talked about.
>
>See Ya!
>
>Bryan Kirking
>66 Step Side
>352 4 speed
>Houston, Texas
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:40:16 PST
From: "P.J. Brusa"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

Bryan, you know, I think I was looking at that thing last night....is it
right at the firewall with two leads on top? Looks like a small
cylinder?

Sorry, but I still do not have a service manual or chiltons yet...This
sucks.

I will check for voltage...I looked at the bulbs and they look
fine....two elements in them, just that the one does not light up,
hence, a bad switch I woudl assume.

Now, where do I find a switch to replace it with...if in fact it is a
switch and not wiring.

- -Peter

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>Peter,
> Looks like I was close on the brake light info, but not exact.
>The switch on my truck is inside the engine compartment on the front of
>the brake cylinder. Its right there with 2 wires coming off of it and
its not
>hard to find.
>
>With key on, disconnect the wires and hook them to a voltmeter, should
>read about 12 Volts. Then put an ohm meter (or continuity testor) on
the
>switch terminals and see if its 0 or 0.1 when pedal is pushed, and
infinite
>when pedal is not pushed.
>
>The bulb number from the shop manual is 1157, but it will most likely
be
>easier if you just take one or yours down to Napa or HiLo and get one
>the looks the same. It is a double function type, so I guess there are
2
>elements in the bulb?
>
>I'll email you later with some of the other stuff we talked about.
>
>See Ya!
>
>Bryan Kirking
>66 Step Side
>352 4 speed
>Houston, Texas
>
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:40:16 PST
From: "P.J. Brusa"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

Bryan, you know, I think I was looking at that thing last night....is it
right at the firewall with two leads on top? Looks like a small
cylinder?

Sorry, but I still do not have a service manual or chiltons yet...This
sucks.

I will check for voltage...I looked at the bulbs and they look
fine....two elements in them, just that the one does not light up,
hence, a bad switch I woudl assume.

Now, where do I find a switch to replace it with...if in fact it is a
switch and not wiring.

- -Peter

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>
>Peter,
> Looks like I was close on the brake light info, but not exact.
>The switch on my truck is inside the engine compartment on the front of
>the brake cylinder. Its right there with 2 wires coming off of it and
its not
>hard to find.
>
>With key on, disconnect the wires and hook them to a voltmeter, should
>read about 12 Volts. Then put an ohm meter (or continuity testor) on
the
>switch terminals and see if its 0 or 0.1 when pedal is pushed, and
infinite
>when pedal is not pushed.
>
>The bulb number from the shop manual is 1157, but it will most likely
be
>easier if you just take one or yours down to Napa or HiLo and get one
>the looks the same. It is a double function type, so I guess there are
2
>elements in the bulb?
>
>I'll email you later with some of the other stuff we talked about.
>
>See Ya!
>
>Bryan Kirking
>66 Step Side
>352 4 speed
>Houston, Texas
>
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:40:16 PST
From: "P.J. Brusa"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

Bryan, you know, I think I was looking at that thing last night....is it
right at the firewall with two leads on top? Looks like a small
cylinder?

Sorry, but I still do not have a service manual or chiltons yet...This
sucks.

I will check for voltage...I looked at the bulbs and they look
fine....two elements in them, just that the one does not light up,
hence, a bad switch I woudl assume.

Now, where do I find a switch to replace it with...if in fact it is a
switch and not wiring.

- -Peter

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>
>Peter,
> Looks like I was close on the brake light info, but not exact.
>The switch on my truck is inside the engine compartment on the front of
>the brake cylinder. Its right there with 2 wires coming off of it and
its not
>hard to find.
>
>With key on, disconnect the wires and hook them to a voltmeter, should
>read about 12 Volts. Then put an ohm meter (or continuity testor) on
the
>switch terminals and see if its 0 or 0.1 when pedal is pushed, and
infinite
>when pedal is not pushed.
>
>The bulb number from the shop manual is 1157, but it will most likely
be
>easier if you just take one or yours down to Napa or HiLo and get one
>the looks the same. It is a double function type, so I guess there are
2
>elements in the bulb?
>
>I'll email you later with some of the other stuff we talked about.
>
>See Ya!
>
>Bryan Kirking
>66 Step Side
>352 4 speed
>Houston, Texas
>
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:40:16 PST
From: "P.J. Brusa"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

Bryan, you know, I think I was looking at that thing last night....is it
right at the firewall with two leads on top? Looks like a small
cylinder?

Sorry, but I still do not have a service manual or chiltons yet...This
sucks.

I will check for voltage...I looked at the bulbs and they look
fine....two elements in them, just that the one does not light up,
hence, a bad switch I woudl assume.

Now, where do I find a switch to replace it with...if in fact it is a
switch and not wiring.

- -Peter

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>Peter,
> Looks like I was close on the brake light info, but not exact.
>The switch on my truck is inside the engine compartment on the front of
>the brake cylinder. Its right there with 2 wires coming off of it and
its not
>hard to find.
>
>With key on, disconnect the wires and hook them to a voltmeter, should
>read about 12 Volts. Then put an ohm meter (or continuity testor) on
the
>switch terminals and see if its 0 or 0.1 when pedal is pushed, and
infinite
>when pedal is not pushed.
>
>The bulb number from the shop manual is 1157, but it will most likely
be
>easier if you just take one or yours down to Napa or HiLo and get one
>the looks the same. It is a double function type, so I guess there are
2
>elements in the bulb?
>
>I'll email you later with some of the other stuff we talked about.
>
>See Ya!
>
>Bryan Kirking
>66 Step Side
>352 4 speed
>Houston, Texas
>
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:31:33 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Complete steering failure!

A few months after replacing the ragjoint on my 69 F250, I had a
complete steering failure. The bracket that holds the ragjoint to the
steering gearbox shaft relies on one bolt to fasten it into place, which
became lose. I was very lucky there was little traffic, and I was not on the
freeway at the time of the failure.

WARNING: This special 7/16" 12 point bolt can cause serious injury or death
if not fastened properly!

BTW: I have decided to grind a flat spot on the steering gearbox shaft, and
weld a small piece of metal onto the inside portion of the ragjoint mounting
bracket.

Danger
danger csolutions.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.csolutions.net/danger


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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:53:47 -0800
From: Eric Donaldson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Bed liners for a classic = a sin?

If a sin, merely a venial one as a sandblaster will take it off. You might
want to compromise with a 4x8 piece of rubber conveyor belt material that
shouldn't be too hard to find if you're near a grain elevator or gravel pit.
I got mine (new material) for a dozen cold ones.
Eric

"P.J. Brusa" wrote:

> Ok, need some advice here. Has anyone messed with those spray-in type
> of bed liners on their trucks? Should I stay away from this type with a
> soon-to-be classic '66? I don't even know if they can be removed when
> installed....hmmm.
>
> On another note, does anyone know of a company who makes a plastic liner
> for older Fords? Can't seem to locate any locally or on the net.
>
> -Peter Brusa
> Atlanta, GA
> '66 Ford F-100/352
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:40:16 PST
From: "P.J. Brusa"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

Bryan, you know, I think I was looking at that thing last night....is it
right at the firewall with two leads on top? Looks like a small
cylinder?

Sorry, but I still do not have a service manual or chiltons yet...This
sucks.

I will check for voltage...I looked at the bulbs and they look
fine....two elements in them, just that the one does not light up,
hence, a bad switch I woudl assume.

Now, where do I find a switch to replace it with...if in fact it is a
switch and not wiring.

- -Peter

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>Peter,
> Looks like I was close on the brake light info, but not exact.
>The switch on my truck is inside the engine compartment on the front of
>the brake cylinder. Its right there with 2 wires coming off of it and
its not
>hard to find.
>
>With key on, disconnect the wires and hook them to a voltmeter, should
>read about 12 Volts. Then put an ohm meter (or continuity testor) on
the
>switch terminals and see if its 0 or 0.1 when pedal is pushed, and
infinite
>when pedal is not pushed.
>
>The bulb number from the shop manual is 1157, but it will most likely
be
>easier if you just take one or yours down to Napa or HiLo and get one
>the looks the same. It is a double function type, so I guess there are
2
>elements in the bulb?
>
>I'll email you later with some of the other stuff we talked about.
>
>See Ya!
>
>Bryan Kirking
>66 Step Side
>352 4 speed
>Houston, Texas
>
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 11:10:36 -0800
From: Eric Donaldson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE: New '66 Ford owner

Try your 4-way flashers. If they work, the problem is not in the wiring
aft of the cab. (For a temporary brake light switch, replace the flasher
with a wire and operate the switch when you step on the brake) The tail
lights are not relevant; the turn signals and 4-way use the same
filament as the brake. If a simple solution isn't found, suspect your
turn signal switch or, if your truck is a real oddball like mine, look
for a brake light relay on the left inner fender and an inline fuse on
the other side near the battery.

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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 14:12:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

At 10:40 AM 12/3/98 PST, you wrote:
>Bryan, you know, I think I was looking at that thing last night....is it
>right at the firewall with two leads on top? Looks like a small
>cylinder?
>

This is inexcusable, especially with the load this list has had.
7 identical posts (so far), all with a large quote. This user
has been removed from the s*bscriber list.

Ken Payne
Admin

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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:40:16 PST
From: "P.J. Brusa"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New '66 Ford owner...needing advice/help

Bryan, you know, I think I was looking at that thing last night....is it
right at the firewall with two leads on top? Looks like a small
cylinder?

Sorry, but I still do not have a service manual or chiltons yet...This
sucks.

I will check for voltage...I looked at the bulbs and they look
fine....two elements in them, just that the one does not light up,
hence, a bad switch I woudl assume.

Now, where do I find a switch to replace it with...if in fact it is a
switch and not wiring.

- -Peter

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