61-79-list-digest Monday, November 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 538



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Best daily driver carb for a 460
Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list repair manual
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351Mmers out there...........all you C's andW's can look too....... :o)
FTE 61-79 - Thanks!
FTE 61-79 - Best daily driver carb for a 460
FTE 61-79 - intro to myself
FTE 61-79 - White Spokers - Old Style
FTE 61-79 - Still.... Looking for a lead
FTE 61-79 - Re: More inocuous ?'s
FTE 61-79 - Re: Testing Vacuum Advance on a Distributor
FTE 61-79 - Re: Bad Crank
FTE 61-79 - Re Manuels for Fords.
FTE 61-79 - 72 Ford Truck Shop Manual Set For Sale
RE: FTE 61-79 - Calling All Quick-Fix experts!
FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator.........
Re: FTE 61-79 - instrument cluster
FTE 61-79 - I am looking for a few parts...........and advice.
FTE 61-79 - Re: TROUBLES....AND MROE TROUBLES
Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150
FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska
Re: FTE 61-79 - Popping noise during deceleration
Re: FTE 61-79 - Still.... Looking for a lead
FTE 61-79 - 65 352 Valve Size
Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska
FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska
Re: FTE 61-79 - Diesel Air Cleaner
Re: FTE 61-79 - 65 352 Valve Size
Re: FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion
FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - I am looking for a few parts...........and advice.
RE: FTE 61-79 - seat
Re: FTE 61-79 - intro to myself
FTE 61-79 - Re: Best daily driver carb for a 460
RE: FTE 61-79 - seat
FTE 61-79 - Gearing questions..........Among other things....
FTE 61-79 - Advance Test
FTE 61-79 - Bad Crank
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351Mmers out there...........all you C's andW's can look too....... :o)
FTE 61-79 - C6 Question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator.........
Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150
FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - Closed tranny????
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gearing questions..........Among other things....
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator.........
FTE 61-79 - Cooling, vibration and wheel alignment

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:07:19 -0700
From: Peter J Palmer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Best daily driver carb for a 460

You wrote:

> Well here we go again. I finally have to do something about my factory Holly.

Brett,
I am not a guru, but 2 years ago I rebuilt my holley myself and then had
a mechanic
set the choke. I too have 155,000 miles on the engine and the carb
works great as soon
as the choke comes off in the morning. It also hauls my heavy trailer
just fine.
I just did a highway mileage test this weekend and was very pleased to
calculate it
exactly at 13 mpg, and that is with 4.11 gears, and a steady speed of 60
mph.
The only thing is that the canadian imperial gallon is a tad larger than
the U.S. gallon,
so it would be a mile or two less.
So I am pleased with my holley, just thought I would let you know.

Pete, 79 F250 S/C 2wd
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:59:51 -0500
From: Lord_Xaenon
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150

At 08:35 PM 11/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>At 08:23 PM 11/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>The year the truck was made some where along the line 100 was dropped and
>>became the F150.
>
>The F100s and F150s overlapped. F100s were made as late as 1983
>and F150s as early as 1973.

It was once explained to me that the F100 was a half-ton truck,
while the F150 was the "heavy" half ton, with slightly upgraded
suspension, driveline, etc. According to the person that told
me this, if you have an F100 with a six or small eight, you'd
probably have a light-duty automatic (C4) in it, but with an
F150, that'd likely be a C6 backing it up. The springs would
be a bit heavier and/or it would have better towing capacity.
It'd still have the half-ton axle (i.e.; the old 9-inch diff).

Of course, it COULD just be Ford's attempt at marketing ...
y'know, the "General Motors" philosophy of building the exact
same car and marketing it under 32 different names....ala
Chevy/GMC. Ford only had ONE light-truck division at the
time (STILL can't get used to saying "Lincoln truck"), so
maybe this could be true.

The problem is, I'm not sure which is more likely!

Mark







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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:59:48 -0500
From: Lord_Xaenon
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list repair manual

At 08:27 PM 11/28/98 EST, you wrote:
>Cant help you with the tech questions but my side are killing me from laughter
>on the hayes manuel. They really do suck.

Yes, they are pretty much useless. I bought one hoping it would
help me put the emcon system back together on my 77 F-100. The
manual has close to 300 pages, but they devote a whopping four
pages to emcon.

On the other hand, it DID make a great cat-box liner.

Mark.



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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:59:47 -0500
From: Lord_Xaenon
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351Mmers out there...........all you C's andW's can look too....... :o)

At 10:43 AM 11/27/98 -0800, you wrote:
>You might want to check out the Sept issue of Hot Rod magazine. They took a
>400 and rebuilt it for less than $2K. They ended up with over 380 hp and
>468 lb-ft of torque. You're correct about how they did it, cam & comp.
>ratio.

Did I read that right? THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY? Holy sh*t. I guess the
aftermarket finally realized that Chevy wasn't the only company that made
a 400, huh? The last time I built one, 380 horsepower from a 400 was
science fiction. Of course, at that time, a 100 Mhz microprocessor was
science fiction, too.

I'm gonna have to go and look at that article. Gettin' a few ideas about
a 400 for my 1977 F-100 stepside......

Thanks for the info! Happy truckin'!

Mark.

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:59:52 -0500
From: Lord_Xaenon
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Thanks!

Thanks to all those who sent me information regarding
repair manuals. I'm prob'ly gonna order one next week.

Thanks again,
Mark.


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:57:25 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Best daily driver carb for a 460

Hi Brett,

Don't have too much help for you except, I put up with the Holly BS for about
15 years until I switched to Edelbrock.....it made a huge difference, and the
tuning is easier. One nice thing, there are no gaskets below the fuel bowl
level = no leaks.

There's quite a few die hard Holley guys here who will tell you
different...but I really found the Edelbrock to work well....

Good Luck

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:57:31 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - intro to myself

Hi Eric,

I think you'll enjoy this list....

Anyway, the ball joints on your steering knuckle can be easily replaced
without a press....a good local parts house will have the parts, and just
follow the special instructions on putting them back together, there is a
torque sequence you need to follow. Also, some of the tools you'll need are a
good torque wrench, a 4WD hub socket, and another spanner tool to install the
sleeve for the upper ball joint. You'll see what I mean when you get it
apart...

If you need any more info, let us know.

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:57:18 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - White Spokers - Old Style

Hey Jeff,

I need the 8 lug style.....sounds like you have an old set of Jackmans
there....

Thanks!

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:57:38 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Still.... Looking for a lead

I don't know if this would help, but there are a few people listed in Hemmings
Motor News that do all kinds of dash restoration....If they don't have the
stuff, maybe they know who will!

Good Luck,

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 06:11:11 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: More inocuous ?'s

Jim Elliott wrote:

> I have some more odd-ball curiosities tho;

We'll just not go there . . .

> 1. a couple of us have thrown out the question of any experience around for
> putting a tilt column into a 67-72, but the answer is apparently 'No." I
> want to start looking at this question, so, can anyone tell me what the
> first model year was that the F-series had tilt wheel available; was it only
> on certain models; and was (or when was it that) the dimmer switch was
> changed to a stalk switch on the column?

Anyone heard from Tom Hogan yet? I guess a cross-country transfer,
moving
the family, new home, new job, etc. can take a few days to get settled
in:-)
Have you tried digging thru the archives yet, Jim? I remember he wrote
this
up once, and had it saved in my 'Best of FTE' file, which, unfortunatly,
I
lost in a computer crash a few months back :-(

> 2. With all the various bandying about automatic transmissions (no pun
> intended) which models were 4-speed (OD)? I have it in my head that the AOD
> and E4OD were. and now for the 64K question - has anyone ever been demented
> enough to do, or to research, a route to fitting a later OD automatic to an
> FE engine?

If you really like to adapt stuff, I guess this is possible, but the
'FE'
stands alone, well, at least as far as its tranny bolt pattern.

- --
Pat Brown
Still waiting for Ni$ pistons in Sebastopol, California

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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 05:51:39 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Testing Vacuum Advance on a Distributor

Keith asked:

> How do you test the Vacuum Advance on a Distributor to see if it is working??

Do you have a vacuum pump and a timing light? With engine idling and
timing light attached, pump down the advance. You can calculate the
total vacuum advance from the change in timing, if you have enough
range on your timing marks. Or, if your engine isn't running, pull
the cap off and observe the breaker plate while pumping down the
advance.

> How about the Mechanical Advance??

Timing light on, vacuum disconnected, engine running. Note timing,
slowly
bring up RPM's while watching for maximum advance on marks. Engine not
running? Pull the distributor and put it in your handy sun distributor
tester:-) It's been a while since I've seen one of those . .

- --
Pat Brown
In Rainy Sebastopol, California


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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 05:57:02 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Bad Crank

Mike Schwall wrote:
>
> Dale wrote:
> > The front oil seal used to leak alot. I replaced it but saw that
> >the old seal circular spring had been riding on the crank so long that it
> >ground a groove into the crank.
>
> I can't remember, but does the front seal ride on the harmonic dampener or
> the crank itself? If it rides on the dampener like a regular small block,
> then go to the local auto parts and ask for a harmonic dampener repair kit
> (or sleeve and seal as it used to be called). The kit will contain a thin
> piece of metal that slides over the nose of the dampener which gives the
> seal a nice smooth surface to ride on.
>

I recently had a sleeve kit installed on the crank (rear main seal) of a
Ni$ 280 ZX. Cost $30 for sleeve and installation. Sure beat a new
crank, or a huge oil leak. I believe they are called 'Speedy sleeves' or
'Ready sleeves'?

- --
Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:20:17 -0500
From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re Manuels for Fords.


Hello! I have a 76 F-150 4wd and need a real manual for it.



Had the same problem finding manuals for my 79 Bronco. Here are a few of
the sources I have found which may have what you need.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pages.ebay.com/aw/search.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.osborn-reproduction.com/

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.vintage-books.com/

An other source is - "Bob Johnson's Auto Literature, in MA.
1 508 872 9173

Another very good source for outdated manuals is:
Faxon Auto Literature
800-458-2734
They do not have a web page that I know of but they have been able to get me
almost any factory manual and wiring diagram I wanted. Much of what they
stock is NOS (new old stock) at very good prices.


These were gathered courtesies of fellow list members.

Try some of these. I hope they help.

Later,

Paul





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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:34:43 -0500
From: "Ken Schneider"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 72 Ford Truck Shop Manual Set For Sale

I was going to put these on EBAY, but I'll give my best friends in the world
the first opportunity to get them! It is a 4 book, 5 volume set. If you
have seen these or used them, you know how valuable these are!

If you are interested, email me, coolestdude usa.net

Thanks,

Ken Schneider
68 F100 360/C6

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:34:44 -0500
From: "Ken Schneider"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Calling All Quick-Fix experts!

Pyro Putty, made by the company that makes POR-15, a great rust preventive.
Pyro Putty should do the trick.

Ken

>
> >Gonna' make this short and sweet hopefully- My buddy has a
> cracked exhaust
> >manifold on his 351m. I know we could probably remove it and
> weld it, but
> >I would like to know if there are any of those quick weld products
> >available that would withstand the heat of the exhaust manifold.
> I've used
> >JB-weld on it and it turned to goo, I used some stuff by permatex called
> >"cold-weld" and that stuff flaked off. Any suggestions or hints? I'm
> >fully aware that this is the wrong way to really solve a problem, but the
> >manifold bolts would probably break and he isn't willing to go
> through the
> >hassle of that happening.

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:10:03 EST
From: CCSSportz aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator.........

In a message dated 11/29/98 2:03:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pboudreault sympatico.ca writes:


panel on the Three Speeds, and on the T 18 and NP 435 there should be "Fill
and Drain" plugs. >>

I'll take a peek to see what kind of numbers I can get off the tranny, By the
way, it is a 4 speed!!!
I'll get you those #'s off the dash as soon as I can..........about an hour or
so.........
Thanks for the offer, I really appreciate it.....I am beginning to learn that
with the older trucks you don't hold your breath for too long..
It took me 2 weeks to find a darn repair manual --- It's a CHILTONS and covers
all US and Canadian Models of Ford F-100, F-150, F-250, F-350, and Bronco
(1978-86 only): 2 and 4 wheel drive, gasoline and diesel engines. It has a lot
of topics covered. I haven't had too much of a chance to browse through it
other than the steering component section.......
I know there are alot of you out there looking for manuals and stuff.......I
found mine finally, at a Western Auto on a trip to Vermont. It cost me 13.99.
if you need one like the one I have I can see if there are any more, buy them
and send them out like a "book order thing" or I could have mine photocopied,
and just send you the sections you need. I don't know - Up to you, just trying
to help.

- -Shawn
79 F-150 4x4, 351M


- -Shawn
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:48:13 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - instrument cluster

ben wrote:
>
> In my '79 F-150 the lights don't work on the dash,

Check: Fuse, light switch + dash light dimmer on back of switch.
Next would be to check ground (and check the ground again), along
with the power connection to the dash. After that, pull instrument
cluster and check for a cracked flex circuit (printed circuit
board thingie).

> and also the oil, temp, and fuel gauge needles go all the way
> over to one side until they hit and stop when the ignition
> switch is on. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Sounds like a bad instrument regulator. On my '70, it is behind the
upper left corner of the dash board. Not sure about a '79, but on
earlier models this is a chopper regulator. With a voltmeter, you
should see the output switching between 0 and 12 volts, about once
per second. Don't use a test light, it will draw too much current
from the regulator.

- --
Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:28:59 EST
From: CCSSportz aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - I am looking for a few parts...........and advice.

Sorry guys I am new to these lists. I'm on the performance list, 61-79 list,
and the offroad list. I have seen a couple different e-mail addys for each one
digest one not. Do I need to do as I did in this post and include both addys
for each list, or can I just send it to one at the regular posting e-mail and
have the digest users get it too???

Anyway, I am looking for some stuff for my truck.
It is a '79 F-150 4x4, 351M, as most of you already know.
I absolutely need a set (4) 16.5 inch wheels. I have 36" tires on the rear,
and 35" tires on the front. All on 15" rims.... They don't make many, at least
I can't find many (used) that are that big and will fit on a 15......all are
16.5's. My rims are pretty rusty, and they are US Wheels I was told, aren't
these split-rims? If so aren't they the ones to get away from with bigger
tires, and when they start to rust?

My rear tires are ok, but as long as the 35's are up front I can't do any
wheeling.........and I can't put a pair of 36's on because I can't find any
for a 15" rim.
I am repeating myself here, so I'm just gonna' shut up on that one.

I am also looking for a passenger side door.............

Maybe a used engine dress up kit.

Tips on painting myself, and prep/body work.

Tips on riveting floor pieces in.........I've gotten alot of advice on this so
far....
Just haven't had the time to do it.

Also 4wheel drive configuration, ....... How does the 4x4 gears work? Where
are they?
Someone, Anyone know which gears are where. ?

I am confused about my Tranny too.
It is a 4 speed with granny, it is a hurst, and it closed?? Whatever that
means. This is just what I've been told by people who THINK they know. So you
can see where my confusion comes from. The one cold hard fact I can give you
is that it definitely is a STANDARD, it is a 4 speed, and that it is connected
to my truck. I'm going to see if I can scrape some numbers off it, and run
them by you guys, to let me know what I've got in there.

Thanks again for any help you can give me. Also, if you know of any other
parts for a '79, or that will fit on my truck. Let me know. I am interested in
doing alot with this truck.........

- -Shawn
79 F-150 4x4, 351M
Cambridge, NY
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:59:54 -0800
From: Pat Brown
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: TROUBLES....AND MROE TROUBLES

bryan wrote:

[Justin's possible ring failure deleted]

> finally, Azie provided the following
>
> my boss, in a garage, ~25 years ago): Remove air cleaner, start
> engine, pour Bon-Ami (scouring cleanser) in the carb, while
> keeping engine running. Abrasive in cleanser will allow rings to
> re-seat. Supposedly.
> I've never tried it, probably never will :-) >>

Actually, that was me, and my boss (Ken Wilton, Ken Wilton's
ARCO, Sunnyvale, CA. about 1972). Azie provided details of an
old Cadillac(?) service note describing the above procedure.

- --
Pat Brown 'Still haven't tried it'
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:56:23 +0100
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150

Hi there,

Thanks for reply.
>
> It was once explained to me that the F100 was a half-ton truck,
> while the F150 was the "heavy" half ton, with slightly upgraded
> suspension, driveline, etc. According to the person that told
> me this, if you have an F100 with a six or small eight, you'd
> probably have a light-duty automatic (C4) in it, but with an
> F150, that'd likely be a C6 backing it up. The springs would
> be a bit heavier and/or it would have better towing capacity.
> It'd still have the half-ton axle (i.e.; the old 9-inch diff).

How about the AOD, where that tranny ever used, maybe still used ?


Bill




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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:24:03 -0500
From: "Timothy R. Anderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska

Hey Dan,
You've got at least one other Alaskan list guy
to share the cold weather with. I'm in Anchorage
and while we've got a little less cold and dark
than you slope guys, it's still brisk. I'm currently
in the middle of an extensive rebuild on my '67
F-100. I hope to be driving it again by late next
summer, time permitting. Now for my question.
Does anyone on the list know if the origional
type oil bath air filters will be a problem in terms
of restricting airflow on a moderatly hi-perf 390?
It always worked great on the origional 352, at =

any RPM. Seemed to offer good protection too
as the 352 still burns NO oil after 175,000mi. TIA

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:01:02 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Popping noise during deceleration

I get that, but for the reason that i have dual exhaust with cherry bombs
that are completely burnt out.. :)

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 11:38 AM 11/26/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>While addressing another subject, someone mentioned "popping"
>(backfiring) while decelerating and related it to a vacuum leak. I have
>the same problem with my '70 F100 (360, 4bbl). It backfires whenever
>the throttle is closed under load; for example when downshifting or
>sometimes even between shifts when I come off the gas.. Otherwise the
>engine runs great. I figured it must be an air leak somewhere but I
>sure can't find it. Any other possible causes? Adjusting the timing
>either way doesn't seem to affect it. Annoying.
>
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:01:05 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Still.... Looking for a lead

I didnt pay attention to the last messages, but if you are looking for your
dash repaired, I've read about a place called "just dashes", they re-do it,
match it to the factory color, re pad it and everthing, they will also do
armrest's and such, if you want some info, just tell me..

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 10:59 AM 11/29/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I don't know if this would help, but there are a few people listed in
Hemmings
>Motor News that do all kinds of dash restoration....If they don't have the
>stuff, maybe they know who will!
>
>Good Luck,
>
>Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:10:43 EST
From: Toydually aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 65 352 Valve Size

Does anybody know the stock intake and exhaust valve size for a 65 F-250
352-2V?

Thanks,

Brian

65 F-250 Custom Cab Camper Special
63 Falcon Futura
70 Mach 1
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:54:41 -0800
From: "Sam Weatherby"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska

So one in Barrow, one in Palmer, one in Anchorage, and one homesick guy in
Seattle...
-srw

Sam Weatherby SWeatherby uswest.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy ICQ # 18354914
'70 Mustang Grabber Sportsroof
'93 F-150 XLT Lightning
'98 FXD Super Glide
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From: Timothy R. Anderson
To: 61-79-list
Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 1:25 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska


Hey Dan,
You've got at least one other Alaskan list guy
to share the cold weather with. I'm in Anchorage
and while we've got a little less cold and dark
than you slope guys, it's still brisk. I'm currently
in the middle of an extensive rebuild on my '67
F-100. I hope to be driving it again by late next
summer, time permitting. Now for my question.
Does anyone on the list know if the origional
type oil bath air filters will be a problem in terms
of restricting airflow on a moderatly hi-perf 390?
It always worked great on the origional 352, at
any RPM. Seemed to offer good protection too
as the 352 still burns NO oil after 175,000mi. TIA

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:31:22 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion

I was taking a looksie at the web site, and read the article on serpentine
belt conversion, well after calling around I have been able to locate all
the needed equipment to do this to my 460, EXCPET one thing, i'm running a
York compressor for a on-board air compressor, and havent been able to find
a pulley for it, the guys at the junk-yard told me that I should be able to
find it, they just didnt know where, or what years I would have to look into.

I would be willing to put out the $$ for a barnd new pulley for it, if I
have too..

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460


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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:34:57 +0100
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska

Hello Alaskans, how is it south where you live ? Any winter yet ? Any sun
left ?


Bill Brox


- ----------
> From: Sam Weatherby
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska
> Date: 30. november 1998 00:54
>
> So one in Barrow, one in Palmer, one in Anchorage, and one homesick guy
in
> Seattle...
> -srw
>
> Sam Weatherby SWeatherby uswest.net
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy ICQ # 18354914
> '70 Mustang Grabber Sportsroof
> '93 F-150 XLT Lightning
> '98 FXD Super Glide
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy R. Anderson
> To: 61-79-list
> Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 1:25 PM
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska
>
>
> Hey Dan,
> You've got at least one other Alaskan list guy
> to share the cold weather with. I'm in Anchorage
> and while we've got a little less cold and dark
> than you slope guys, it's still brisk. I'm currently
> in the middle of an extensive rebuild on my '67
> F-100. I hope to be driving it again by late next
> summer, time permitting. Now for my question.
> Does anyone on the list know if the origional
> type oil bath air filters will be a problem in terms
> of restricting airflow on a moderatly hi-perf 390?
> It always worked great on the origional 352, at
> any RPM. Seemed to offer good protection too
> as the 352 still burns NO oil after 175,000mi. TIA
>
> Tim in Anchorage
> '67 F-100
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:40:22 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Diesel Air Cleaner

"J.S.H." wrote:
>Finaly got the specs.on the 84 Diesel Air Cleaner; 5"x15".
>It has no warm air intake but has a 5" ram air hose to the
>core support.

Is that the filter element size? wow, that's pretty big.
What's the filter number?

What's the diameter of the filter housing?

Thanks,

Steve
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to
recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-- F. P. Jones


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:57:56 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 65 352 Valve Size

At 06:10 PM 11/29/98 EST, you wrote:
>Does anybody know the stock intake and exhaust valve size for a 65 F-250
>352-2V?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brian


2.03" intake, 1.56" exhaust.
Same as most other "garden variety" FE heads...


Steve
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to
recognize a mistake when you make it again.
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:19:53 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion

I've got a york compressor with the serpentine style pulley on it. It came
off of an 80 Merc cougar with a 302. If you cant find one, lemme know and
I'll yank this pulley off for ya. Just lemme know.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:42:44 EST
From: CCSSportz aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - I am looking for a few parts...........and advice.

In a message dated 11/29/98 7:23:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, kevkem epix.net
writes:


emails to the non digest address.

*Ok, will do ...........Thanks

as for wheeling. i wouldn't worry much about the 1/2" tire radius
difference as long as the surface is not real hard pack or anything the
won't allow some tire slippage.

**So you are saying with the 35's up front, and the 36's out back I can still
go offroad in 4WD as long as I'm on some surface that will allow my tires to
slip?

my pull truck has a 12% differencein
gearing, turning the front faster than the rear. the fronts are lower
pressure, which equals it out some too. it don't go wheeling, but it does
back up the whole track to get hooked sometimes. just remember, it is the
rolling radius - the distance from axle center to ground - that should be
almost equal, not the diameter molded into the tire side.

Yeah, because they are a smaller diameter tire (the 35's up front) they will
be turning faster than the rear tires...........I know that, but I was told
that because of this they will pull my rear tires along because the rear ones
are going slower.......
Now I am confused!

oh, as for which gears are where - i can't see my truck now, but i think
from front to rear it is 4L-N-4H-2H. find a knob somewhere or you can
check in owners manual if you have it. someone here should know it. you
see, i don't know if you have a 205 T-case or not.

I just bought a Chilon repair manual and grabbed a 4wheeling magazine today --
In the 4x4 mag. I was told stock axles in my truck were Dana 44 up front, and
a ford 9'' out back. In the Chilton it says I'm sopposed to have a New Process
205 Part time Transfer Case. I have to scrape the numbers off everything
tomorrow, and make sure I've got what I think I have.....

I still can't figure out what my tranny is even sopposed to be. So When I get
the #'s I'll run 'em by you guys, and maybe you can give me some
definates........

Thanks,
- -Shawn
79 F-150 4x4, 351M - Just named by Dad and I " 'ZILLA "
Cambridge, NY

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:23:59 -0500
From: "Ken Schneider"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - seat

Unfortunately not.

Sorry. Will continue to look.

Ken

I think we need a parts request web site or news list.

>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Have you seen any factory bench seats from a 61-66?
>
> Brian

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:35:48 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - intro to myself

BDIJXS aol.com wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> I think you'll enjoy this list....
>
> Anyway, the ball joints on your steering knuckle can be easily replaced
> without a press....a good local parts house will have the parts, and just
> follow the special instructions on putting them back together, there is a
> torque sequence you need to follow. Also, some of the tools you'll need are a
> good torque wrench, a 4WD hub socket, and another spanner tool to install the
> sleeve for the upper ball joint. You'll see what I mean when you get it
> apart...
>
> If you need any more info, let us know.
>
> Colorado Jeff

Might as well go with some new seals while you are in there also.

Most good parts houses have presses availble and could do it for you for $5 or
so. I found it easyier to pay the $ then try to pound the L.S. out of things.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon
ICQ# 19575234

63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:42:12 -0500
From: adam.hicks ppctx.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Best daily driver carb for a 460


As I had previously posted, I just had my 460 rebuilt with an
Edelbrock performer 460 manifold and a Holley 750 Q-Jet Electric Choke
vacuum secondary. The thing runs like a DREAM. Accelerates smooth as
a Cadillac (or should I say Crown Vic for this list?!) The Carb
bolted right up with all of the proper linkage, etc. I called
Edelbrock, and they require you purchase different linkage kits to
adapt their carbs. I didn't want to mess with it. The guy who built
mine has built about 200+ 454, 460 and 502's in just about every
vehicle you can imagine (big race guy) and recommended I go with this
particular Holley for my application... of course, he also knew how to
tune the thing perfectly in his sleep, so that probably didn't hurt.

Not trying to sway your opinion, just letting you know that I couldn't
be happier with mine.

Adam

77' F150 460 C6 (With brand new Rotors, pads and bearings today!)
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:03:23 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - seat

At 08:23 PM 11/29/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Unfortunately not.
>
>Sorry. Will continue to look.
>
>Ken
>
>I think we need a parts request web site or news list.
>

Our free classifieds section on the web site has hundreds
of submissions per month.

Ken Payne
Admin
http://www.ford-trucks.com


>>
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>> Have you seen any factory bench seats from a 61-66?
>>
>> Brian
>
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:28:09 EST
From: CCSSportz aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gearing questions..........Among other things....

In a message dated 11/29/98 8:22:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, kevkem epix.net
writes:


something like 3.5front, and 3.55 rear or something like that. anyway...
>>

Are these good gears to have? What's the worst, what's the best? My guess is
they are factory from '79 (Never been changed), should I change or upgrade
them? Keep in mind I'm still working on the truck, and have yet to drive it
more than up a trailer, down a trailer, and about 20 feet to park it ---- All
with no steering at all. So I don't know what else will need to be done until
I can drive it, and "feel" what else I need to fix.

What's the deal with Detroit Lockers? I'm new to the 4x4 scene, and new to
trucks, or vehicles for that matter even - I know alot of the basics, and some
of the complicated stuff.
I'm 16, and have worked on my Cadilllac for 2 years, my dad's mercury, and am
learning ford trucks as I work on mine. I was reading a magazine and it was
talking about Detroit lockers......
What are they? What do they do? About how much do they cost? And can I put one
in myself? Like I said, other than knowing it is a rearend component, I don't
know much.

And thanks again for all of those who responded about my tire/4x4 questions. I
am just going to get a new set of rubber. I found a friend of mine who can get
me some military take off 36" Hummer tires........ from between 50-75 bucks
apiece mounted and balanced -- They all have over 50% tread left, or close to
100% but plugged....... Which leads me to beg you guys to help me find a set
of 16.5" rims to put these tires on. I have 15's and they wont cut it
obviously. So any links to rims or if you have an old set laying around please
contact me ASAP. Thanks alot once again - you guys on this list have saved me
from a complete nervous breakdown, and a coronary at 16 years old.

- -Shawn
79 F-150 4x4, 351M
Cambridge, NY
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:56:30 -0800
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Advance Test

"How do you test the Vacuum Advance on a Distributor to see if it is
working??

How about the Mechanical Advance??"

I use a Mity Vac hand vacum pump and a adjustable timing light.
Hook the pump to the vacum can on the dist. and hook timing light
up,start the engine. Check the timing ,pump the Mity Vac up a bit
and check the timing again, it should advance.BTW on most Fords
you can adjust the vac. advance by sticking a Allen wrench in
the port on the vac. can.
For mech.advance,rev engine and see if the timing marks move.
You can also check the timing with the engine vacum hooked up
and disconnected it,should advance when connected.
Don't forget to plug the vacum hose after disconnecting.
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:47:43 -0500
From: Bill Templeton
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bad Crank

Regarding that worn crankshaft under the front oil seal, I am pretty sure
that I have seen sleeves which fit over the crankshaft in the FelPro catalog.

Bill

Bill Templeton
temple carol.net
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:27:28 -0800
From: Steve & Rockette Leitch
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351Mmers out there...........all you C's andW's can look too....... :o)

> Did I read that right? THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY? Holy sh*t. I guess the
> aftermarket finally realized that Chevy wasn't the only company that made
> a 400, huh? The last time I built one, 380 horsepower from a 400 was
> science fiction.

Twentyfive years ago, my bro and I built a 400ci that made a little over
500 HP for a 68 Fairlane. We used 351C 4BBL heads, 351C pistons,
I bushed the rods for floating pins, modified the oiling system to survive
6500rpm blasts and went racing. We couldn't get it to hook but it ran low
13's anyway.....

Steve and the Rockette




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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:32:31 -0600
From: "Michael R. Masse"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - C6 Question

My C6 seems to be acting up and I have some questions I'm hoping someone
can answer. While driving in the city I don't really notice any
problems with it, but I've been getting a "feeling" lately like it's
slipping. The last two times I've taken it on the interstate for at
least a 1/2 hour and then came to a stop somewhere, I'll get some pretty
nasty surging/slipping while trying to accelerate again. Does this
sound like clutches wearing out? What are the symptoms of a torque
converter wearing/worn out? It has no problem upshifting or
downshifting. It seems to me that stop and go city driving would be
harder on the tranny then highway driving, but both times it happens
right away after being on the highway. Any C6 Guru's out there got any
clues?

Mike
'78 Bronco Custom
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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:39:48 -0500
From: Lord_Xaenon
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator.........

At 03:10 PM 11/29/98 EST, you wrote:


>It took me 2 weeks to find a darn repair manual --- It's a CHILTONS and covers
>all US and Canadian Models of Ford F-100, F-150, F-250, F-350, and Bronco
>(1978-86 only): 2 and 4 wheel drive, gasoline and diesel engines. It has a lot
>of topics covered. I haven't had too much of a chance to browse through it
>other than the steering component section.......
>I know there are alot of you out there looking for manuals and stuff.......I
>found mine finally, at a Western Auto on a trip to Vermont. It cost me 13.99.
>if you need one like the one I have I can see if there are any more, buy them
>and send them out like a "book order thing" or I could have mine photocopied,
>and just send you the sections you need. I don't know - Up to you, just trying
>to help.

Hi, I've been looking for a Chilton's myself, but it looks like I'm going to
have to order one, and before I go through the trouble, let me ask you:

How in-depth is their emission-control section? I mean, is it just a passing
reference to some of the devices on the truck or does it actually give diagrams
and stuff like that?

Thanks in advance.

Mark



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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:39:46 -0500
From: Lord_Xaenon
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150

At 09:56 PM 11/29/98 +0100, you wrote:

>How about the AOD, where that tranny ever used, maybe still used ?

I think by the time they started using the AOD they had
already abandoned the F-100 designation. Not that it really
made much of a difference; the AOD was (allegedly) a heavier-
duty trans than the old C4 anyway, but not quite as strong as
the C6. Ford's had a couple of different auto-overdrive
transmissions for the F-series, the AOD/AOT, the E4OD, and
(I think) the A4LD was in there somewhere, too.







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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:52:11 EST
From: CCSSportz aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - Closed tranny????

In a message dated 11/29/98 9:58:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, grover ford-
trucks.com writes:


it isn't a Hurst transmission, but I am not an expert on the subject.
I'll put it this way though: have YOU ever heard of a high performance
transmission with a granny gear? >>

Like I said I don't know if it is or if it isn't. I'm getting the numbers
tomorrow when I have some extra time.........Then I will know for sure what
the heck I've got.
I don't even know if it actually HAS granny gear, I was told that by the
previous owner, who by the way knows about 100% less than I do..........
But it seems to me that any tranny made for a heavier duty truck (A heavy 1/2
Ton) and a 4x4 be it a Hurst or not, would have one lower than normal
(creeper, or granny) gear for the heavier loads, and the towing involved with
a heavier duty truck. Doesn't that seem logical. I'm not arguing the point of
if it is a Hurst or not - I don't really care one way or another - I am just
curious as to what the heck I've got in my truck.......

Thanks,
-Shawn
79 F-150 4x4, 351M - 'ZILLA
Cambridge, NY
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:14:09 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gearing questions..........Among other things....

i love the detroit locker in the rear of my 4x4, but a trak lok( clutch type)
will be best in the front, unless you are doing some serious four wheeling.

jeff grant
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:18:36 EST
From: CCSSportz aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator.........

In a message dated 11/29/98 11:43:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, xaenon one.net
writes:


passing
reference to some of the devices on the truck or does it actually give
diagrams
and stuff like that?

Thanks in advance.

Mark
>>
The one I have has the numbers (8576) 26662 on the cover, and the book itself
is gray, and has a tan/brown F-150 XLT (80's style) in the center.
The one I have has 28 pages of exhaust system diagrams (cover all different
years for each specific vehicle) And also has a complete 66 page section
devoted completely to Emission controls. That section covers Air Pollution,
Catalytic Converters, Crank Case Emissions, Diagnostic Trouble Codes, Exhaust
Emissions, Exhaust Emission Controls, Evaporative Emission Controls, Engine
Control System, and about 40 other little sub thingies that all categorize
into the above listed systems. O2 sensor, EGR, and there are a whole lot of
diagrams too. Oh it also has Vacuum Diagrams. It covers a lot of
stuff..........I am learning alot from it..........
If you were wondering there are 10 basic sections under which each category,
and repair falls under:
Routine Maintenance
Engine Performance and Tune Up
Engine and Engine Rebuilding
Emission Controls
Fuel System
Chassis Electrical
Drive Train
Suspension and Steering
Brakes
and Body and Trim.

Has wiring diagrams and everything. Well, worth 14 bucks in my mind.
If you want Me to look into finding you one, I will, I don't know about
postage and all, you may be better off just going to a Napa, or Western Auto,
or some other Parts Place and seeing if they have one in stock, if not they
can get it for you in 24 hours. (I didn't know this until after I bought my
book after 2 weeks of searching!) Well, hope that helps anyone, and you too.

- -Shawn....


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