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61-79-list-digest Monday, November 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 538 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - Best daily driver carb for a 460 Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150 Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list repair manual Re: FTE 61-79 - 351Mmers out there...........all you C's andW's can look too....... :o) FTE 61-79 - Thanks! FTE 61-79 - Best daily driver carb for a 460 FTE 61-79 - intro to myself FTE 61-79 - White Spokers - Old Style FTE 61-79 - Still.... Looking for a lead FTE 61-79 - Re: More inocuous ?'s FTE 61-79 - Re: Testing Vacuum Advance on a Distributor FTE 61-79 - Re: Bad Crank FTE 61-79 - Re Manuels for Fords. FTE 61-79 - 72 Ford Truck Shop Manual Set For Sale RE: FTE 61-79 - Calling All Quick-Fix experts! FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator......... Re: FTE 61-79 - instrument cluster FTE 61-79 - I am looking for a few parts...........and advice. FTE 61-79 - Re: TROUBLES....AND MROE TROUBLES Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150 FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska Re: FTE 61-79 - Popping noise during deceleration Re: FTE 61-79 - Still.... Looking for a lead FTE 61-79 - 65 352 Valve Size Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska Re: FTE 61-79 - Diesel Air Cleaner Re: FTE 61-79 - 65 352 Valve Size Re: FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - I am looking for a few parts...........and advice. RE: FTE 61-79 - seat Re: FTE 61-79 - intro to myself FTE 61-79 - Re: Best daily driver carb for a 460 RE: FTE 61-79 - seat FTE 61-79 - Gearing questions..........Among other things.... FTE 61-79 - Advance Test FTE 61-79 - Bad Crank Re: FTE 61-79 - 351Mmers out there...........all you C's andW's can look too....... :o) FTE 61-79 - C6 Question Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator......... Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150 FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - Closed tranny???? Re: FTE 61-79 - Gearing questions..........Among other things.... Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator......... FTE 61-79 - Cooling, vibration and wheel alignment ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 06:07:19 -0700 From: Peter J Palmer Subject: FTE 61-79 - Best daily driver carb for a 460 You wrote: > Well here we go again. I finally have to do something about my factory Holly. Brett, I am not a guru, but 2 years ago I rebuilt my holley myself and then had a mechanic set the choke. I too have 155,000 miles on the engine and the carb works great as soon as the choke comes off in the morning. It also hauls my heavy trailer just fine. I just did a highway mileage test this weekend and was very pleased to calculate it exactly at 13 mpg, and that is with 4.11 gears, and a steady speed of 60 mph. The only thing is that the canadian imperial gallon is a tad larger than the U.S. gallon, so it would be a mile or two less. So I am pleased with my holley, just thought I would let you know. Pete, 79 F250 S/C 2wd > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:59:51 -0500 From: Lord_Xaenon Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150 At 08:35 PM 11/28/98 -0500, you wrote: >At 08:23 PM 11/28/98 -0500, you wrote: >>The year the truck was made some where along the line 100 was dropped and >>became the F150. > >The F100s and F150s overlapped. F100s were made as late as 1983 >and F150s as early as 1973. It was once explained to me that the F100 was a half-ton truck, while the F150 was the "heavy" half ton, with slightly upgraded suspension, driveline, etc. According to the person that told me this, if you have an F100 with a six or small eight, you'd probably have a light-duty automatic (C4) in it, but with an F150, that'd likely be a C6 backing it up. The springs would be a bit heavier and/or it would have better towing capacity. It'd still have the half-ton axle (i.e.; the old 9-inch diff). Of course, it COULD just be Ford's attempt at marketing ... y'know, the "General Motors" philosophy of building the exact same car and marketing it under 32 different names....ala Chevy/GMC. Ford only had ONE light-truck division at the time (STILL can't get used to saying "Lincoln truck"), so maybe this could be true. The problem is, I'm not sure which is more likely! Mark == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:59:48 -0500 From: Lord_Xaenon Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 61-79-list repair manual At 08:27 PM 11/28/98 EST, you wrote: >Cant help you with the tech questions but my side are killing me from laughter >on the hayes manuel. They really do suck. Yes, they are pretty much useless. I bought one hoping it would help me put the emcon system back together on my 77 F-100. The manual has close to 300 pages, but they devote a whopping four pages to emcon. On the other hand, it DID make a great cat-box liner. Mark. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:59:47 -0500 From: Lord_Xaenon Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351Mmers out there...........all you C's andW's can look too....... :o) At 10:43 AM 11/27/98 -0800, you wrote: >You might want to check out the Sept issue of Hot Rod magazine. They took a >400 and rebuilt it for less than $2K. They ended up with over 380 hp and >468 lb-ft of torque. You're correct about how they did it, cam & comp. >ratio. Did I read that right? THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY? Holy sh*t. I guess the aftermarket finally realized that Chevy wasn't the only company that made a 400, huh? The last time I built one, 380 horsepower from a 400 was science fiction. Of course, at that time, a 100 Mhz microprocessor was science fiction, too. I'm gonna have to go and look at that article. Gettin' a few ideas about a 400 for my 1977 F-100 stepside...... Thanks for the info! Happy truckin'! Mark. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 08:59:52 -0500 From: Lord_Xaenon Subject: FTE 61-79 - Thanks! Thanks to all those who sent me information regarding repair manuals. I'm prob'ly gonna order one next week. Thanks again, Mark. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:57:25 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Best daily driver carb for a 460 Hi Brett, Don't have too much help for you except, I put up with the Holly BS for about 15 years until I switched to Edelbrock.....it made a huge difference, and the tuning is easier. One nice thing, there are no gaskets below the fuel bowl level = no leaks. There's quite a few die hard Holley guys here who will tell you different...but I really found the Edelbrock to work well.... Good Luck Colorado Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:57:31 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - intro to myself Hi Eric, I think you'll enjoy this list.... Anyway, the ball joints on your steering knuckle can be easily replaced without a press....a good local parts house will have the parts, and just follow the special instructions on putting them back together, there is a torque sequence you need to follow. Also, some of the tools you'll need are a good torque wrench, a 4WD hub socket, and another spanner tool to install the sleeve for the upper ball joint. You'll see what I mean when you get it apart... If you need any more info, let us know. Colorado Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:57:18 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - White Spokers - Old Style Hey Jeff, I need the 8 lug style.....sounds like you have an old set of Jackmans there.... Thanks! Colorado Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:57:38 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Still.... Looking for a lead I don't know if this would help, but there are a few people listed in Hemmings Motor News that do all kinds of dash restoration....If they don't have the stuff, maybe they know who will! Good Luck, Colorado Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 06:11:11 -0800 From: Pat Brown Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: More inocuous ?'s Jim Elliott wrote: > I have some more odd-ball curiosities tho; We'll just not go there . . . > 1. a couple of us have thrown out the question of any experience around for > putting a tilt column into a 67-72, but the answer is apparently 'No." I > want to start looking at this question, so, can anyone tell me what the > first model year was that the F-series had tilt wheel available; was it only > on certain models; and was (or when was it that) the dimmer switch was > changed to a stalk switch on the column? Anyone heard from Tom Hogan yet? I guess a cross-country transfer, moving the family, new home, new job, etc. can take a few days to get settled in:-) Have you tried digging thru the archives yet, Jim? I remember he wrote this up once, and had it saved in my 'Best of FTE' file, which, unfortunatly, I lost in a computer crash a few months back :-( > 2. With all the various bandying about automatic transmissions (no pun > intended) which models were 4-speed (OD)? I have it in my head that the AOD > and E4OD were. and now for the 64K question - has anyone ever been demented > enough to do, or to research, a route to fitting a later OD automatic to an > FE engine? If you really like to adapt stuff, I guess this is possible, but the 'FE' stands alone, well, at least as far as its tranny bolt pattern. - -- Pat Brown Still waiting for Ni$ pistons in Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 05:51:39 -0800 From: Pat Brown Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Testing Vacuum Advance on a Distributor Keith asked: > How do you test the Vacuum Advance on a Distributor to see if it is working?? Do you have a vacuum pump and a timing light? With engine idling and timing light attached, pump down the advance. You can calculate the total vacuum advance from the change in timing, if you have enough range on your timing marks. Or, if your engine isn't running, pull the cap off and observe the breaker plate while pumping down the advance. > How about the Mechanical Advance?? Timing light on, vacuum disconnected, engine running. Note timing, slowly bring up RPM's while watching for maximum advance on marks. Engine not running? Pull the distributor and put it in your handy sun distributor tester:-) It's been a while since I've seen one of those . . - -- Pat Brown In Rainy Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 05:57:02 -0800 From: Pat Brown Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Bad Crank Mike Schwall wrote: > > Dale wrote: > > The front oil seal used to leak alot. I replaced it but saw that > >the old seal circular spring had been riding on the crank so long that it > >ground a groove into the crank. > > I can't remember, but does the front seal ride on the harmonic dampener or > the crank itself? If it rides on the dampener like a regular small block, > then go to the local auto parts and ask for a harmonic dampener repair kit > (or sleeve and seal as it used to be called). The kit will contain a thin > piece of metal that slides over the nose of the dampener which gives the > seal a nice smooth surface to ride on. > I recently had a sleeve kit installed on the crank (rear main seal) of a Ni$ 280 ZX. Cost $30 for sleeve and installation. Sure beat a new crank, or a huge oil leak. I believe they are called 'Speedy sleeves' or 'Ready sleeves'? - -- Pat Brown Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:20:17 -0500 From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re Manuels for Fords. Hello! I have a 76 F-150 4wd and need a real manual for it. Had the same problem finding manuals for my 79 Bronco. Here are a few of the sources I have found which may have what you need. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://pages.ebay.com/aw/search.html http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.osborn-reproduction.com/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.vintage-books.com/ An other source is - "Bob Johnson's Auto Literature, in MA. 1 508 872 9173 Another very good source for outdated manuals is: Faxon Auto Literature 800-458-2734 They do not have a web page that I know of but they have been able to get me almost any factory manual and wiring diagram I wanted. Much of what they stock is NOS (new old stock) at very good prices. These were gathered courtesies of fellow list members. Try some of these. I hope they help. Later, Paul == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:34:43 -0500 From: "Ken Schneider" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 72 Ford Truck Shop Manual Set For Sale I was going to put these on EBAY, but I'll give my best friends in the world the first opportunity to get them! It is a 4 book, 5 volume set. If you have seen these or used them, you know how valuable these are! If you are interested, email me, coolestdude usa.net Thanks, Ken Schneider 68 F100 360/C6 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:34:44 -0500 From: "Ken Schneider" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Calling All Quick-Fix experts! Pyro Putty, made by the company that makes POR-15, a great rust preventive. Pyro Putty should do the trick. Ken > > >Gonna' make this short and sweet hopefully- My buddy has a > cracked exhaust > >manifold on his 351m. I know we could probably remove it and > weld it, but > >I would like to know if there are any of those quick weld products > >available that would withstand the heat of the exhaust manifold. > I've used > >JB-weld on it and it turned to goo, I used some stuff by permatex called > >"cold-weld" and that stuff flaked off. Any suggestions or hints? I'm > >fully aware that this is the wrong way to really solve a problem, but the > >manifold bolts would probably break and he isn't willing to go > through the > >hassle of that happening. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:10:03 EST From: CCSSportz aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator......... In a message dated 11/29/98 2:03:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, pboudreault sympatico.ca writes: panel on the Three Speeds, and on the T 18 and NP 435 there should be "Fill and Drain" plugs. >> I'll take a peek to see what kind of numbers I can get off the tranny, By the way, it is a 4 speed!!! I'll get you those #'s off the dash as soon as I can..........about an hour or so......... Thanks for the offer, I really appreciate it.....I am beginning to learn that with the older trucks you don't hold your breath for too long.. It took me 2 weeks to find a darn repair manual --- It's a CHILTONS and covers all US and Canadian Models of Ford F-100, F-150, F-250, F-350, and Bronco (1978-86 only): 2 and 4 wheel drive, gasoline and diesel engines. It has a lot of topics covered. I haven't had too much of a chance to browse through it other than the steering component section....... I know there are alot of you out there looking for manuals and stuff.......I found mine finally, at a Western Auto on a trip to Vermont. It cost me 13.99. if you need one like the one I have I can see if there are any more, buy them and send them out like a "book order thing" or I could have mine photocopied, and just send you the sections you need. I don't know - Up to you, just trying to help. - -Shawn 79 F-150 4x4, 351M - -Shawn == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:48:13 -0800 From: Pat Brown Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - instrument cluster ben wrote: > > In my '79 F-150 the lights don't work on the dash, Check: Fuse, light switch + dash light dimmer on back of switch. Next would be to check ground (and check the ground again), along with the power connection to the dash. After that, pull instrument cluster and check for a cracked flex circuit (printed circuit board thingie). > and also the oil, temp, and fuel gauge needles go all the way > over to one side until they hit and stop when the ignition > switch is on. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Sounds like a bad instrument regulator. On my '70, it is behind the upper left corner of the dash board. Not sure about a '79, but on earlier models this is a chopper regulator. With a voltmeter, you should see the output switching between 0 and 12 volts, about once per second. Don't use a test light, it will draw too much current from the regulator. - -- Pat Brown Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:28:59 EST From: CCSSportz aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - I am looking for a few parts...........and advice. Sorry guys I am new to these lists. I'm on the performance list, 61-79 list, and the offroad list. I have seen a couple different e-mail addys for each one digest one not. Do I need to do as I did in this post and include both addys for each list, or can I just send it to one at the regular posting e-mail and have the digest users get it too??? Anyway, I am looking for some stuff for my truck. It is a '79 F-150 4x4, 351M, as most of you already know. I absolutely need a set (4) 16.5 inch wheels. I have 36" tires on the rear, and 35" tires on the front. All on 15" rims.... They don't make many, at least I can't find many (used) that are that big and will fit on a 15......all are 16.5's. My rims are pretty rusty, and they are US Wheels I was told, aren't these split-rims? If so aren't they the ones to get away from with bigger tires, and when they start to rust? My rear tires are ok, but as long as the 35's are up front I can't do any wheeling.........and I can't put a pair of 36's on because I can't find any for a 15" rim. I am repeating myself here, so I'm just gonna' shut up on that one. I am also looking for a passenger side door............. Maybe a used engine dress up kit. Tips on painting myself, and prep/body work. Tips on riveting floor pieces in.........I've gotten alot of advice on this so far.... Just haven't had the time to do it. Also 4wheel drive configuration, ....... How does the 4x4 gears work? Where are they? Someone, Anyone know which gears are where. ? I am confused about my Tranny too. It is a 4 speed with granny, it is a hurst, and it closed?? Whatever that means. This is just what I've been told by people who THINK they know. So you can see where my confusion comes from. The one cold hard fact I can give you is that it definitely is a STANDARD, it is a 4 speed, and that it is connected to my truck. I'm going to see if I can scrape some numbers off it, and run them by you guys, to let me know what I've got in there. Thanks again for any help you can give me. Also, if you know of any other parts for a '79, or that will fit on my truck. Let me know. I am interested in doing alot with this truck......... - -Shawn 79 F-150 4x4, 351M Cambridge, NY == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:59:54 -0800 From: Pat Brown Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: TROUBLES....AND MROE TROUBLES bryan wrote: [Justin's possible ring failure deleted] > finally, Azie provided the following > > my boss, in a garage, ~25 years ago): Remove air cleaner, start > engine, pour Bon-Ami (scouring cleanser) in the carb, while > keeping engine running. Abrasive in cleanser will allow rings to > re-seat. Supposedly. > I've never tried it, probably never will :-) >> Actually, that was me, and my boss (Ken Wilton, Ken Wilton's ARCO, Sunnyvale, CA. about 1972). Azie provided details of an old Cadillac(?) service note describing the above procedure. - -- Pat Brown 'Still haven't tried it' Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:56:23 +0100 From: "Bill Brox" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150 Hi there, Thanks for reply. > > It was once explained to me that the F100 was a half-ton truck, > while the F150 was the "heavy" half ton, with slightly upgraded > suspension, driveline, etc. According to the person that told > me this, if you have an F100 with a six or small eight, you'd > probably have a light-duty automatic (C4) in it, but with an > F150, that'd likely be a C6 backing it up. The springs would > be a bit heavier and/or it would have better towing capacity. > It'd still have the half-ton axle (i.e.; the old 9-inch diff). How about the AOD, where that tranny ever used, maybe still used ? Bill == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:24:03 -0500 From: "Timothy R. Anderson" Subject: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska Hey Dan, You've got at least one other Alaskan list guy to share the cold weather with. I'm in Anchorage and while we've got a little less cold and dark than you slope guys, it's still brisk. I'm currently in the middle of an extensive rebuild on my '67 F-100. I hope to be driving it again by late next summer, time permitting. Now for my question. Does anyone on the list know if the origional type oil bath air filters will be a problem in terms of restricting airflow on a moderatly hi-perf 390? It always worked great on the origional 352, at = any RPM. Seemed to offer good protection too as the 352 still burns NO oil after 175,000mi. TIA Tim in Anchorage '67 F-100 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:01:02 -0500 From: Dayton Boyd Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Popping noise during deceleration I get that, but for the reason that i have dual exhaust with cherry bombs that are completely burnt out.. :) cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 11:38 AM 11/26/98 -0500, you wrote: > >While addressing another subject, someone mentioned "popping" >(backfiring) while decelerating and related it to a vacuum leak. I have >the same problem with my '70 F100 (360, 4bbl). It backfires whenever >the throttle is closed under load; for example when downshifting or >sometimes even between shifts when I come off the gas.. Otherwise the >engine runs great. I figured it must be an air leak somewhere but I >sure can't find it. Any other possible causes? Adjusting the timing >either way doesn't seem to affect it. Annoying. > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:01:05 -0500 From: Dayton Boyd Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Still.... Looking for a lead I didnt pay attention to the last messages, but if you are looking for your dash repaired, I've read about a place called "just dashes", they re-do it, match it to the factory color, re pad it and everthing, they will also do armrest's and such, if you want some info, just tell me.. cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 10:59 AM 11/29/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I don't know if this would help, but there are a few people listed in Hemmings >Motor News that do all kinds of dash restoration....If they don't have the >stuff, maybe they know who will! > >Good Luck, > >Colorado Jeff >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:10:43 EST From: Toydually aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 65 352 Valve Size Does anybody know the stock intake and exhaust valve size for a 65 F-250 352-2V? Thanks, Brian 65 F-250 Custom Cab Camper Special 63 Falcon Futura 70 Mach 1 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:54:41 -0800 From: "Sam Weatherby" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska So one in Barrow, one in Palmer, one in Anchorage, and one homesick guy in Seattle... -srw Sam Weatherby SWeatherby uswest.net http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy ICQ # 18354914 '70 Mustang Grabber Sportsroof '93 F-150 XLT Lightning '98 FXD Super Glide - -----Original Message----- From: Timothy R. Anderson To: 61-79-list Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 1:25 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska Hey Dan, You've got at least one other Alaskan list guy to share the cold weather with. I'm in Anchorage and while we've got a little less cold and dark than you slope guys, it's still brisk. I'm currently in the middle of an extensive rebuild on my '67 F-100. I hope to be driving it again by late next summer, time permitting. Now for my question. Does anyone on the list know if the origional type oil bath air filters will be a problem in terms of restricting airflow on a moderatly hi-perf 390? It always worked great on the origional 352, at any RPM. Seemed to offer good protection too as the 352 still burns NO oil after 175,000mi. TIA Tim in Anchorage '67 F-100 =FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:31:22 -0500 From: Dayton Boyd Subject: FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion I was taking a looksie at the web site, and read the article on serpentine belt conversion, well after calling around I have been able to locate all the needed equipment to do this to my 460, EXCPET one thing, i'm running a York compressor for a on-board air compressor, and havent been able to find a pulley for it, the guys at the junk-yard told me that I should be able to find it, they just didnt know where, or what years I would have to look into. I would be willing to put out the $$ for a barnd new pulley for it, if I have too.. cannandale '78 F250 4x4, 460 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:34:57 +0100 From: "Bill Brox" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska Hello Alaskans, how is it south where you live ? Any winter yet ? Any sun left ? Bill Brox - ---------- > From: Sam Weatherby > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska > Date: 30. november 1998 00:54 > > So one in Barrow, one in Palmer, one in Anchorage, and one homesick guy in > Seattle... > -srw > > Sam Weatherby SWeatherby uswest.net > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://insert.com/sammy ICQ # 18354914 > '70 Mustang Grabber Sportsroof > '93 F-150 XLT Lightning > '98 FXD Super Glide > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy R. Anderson > To: 61-79-list > Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 1:25 PM > Subject: FTE 61-79 - One more in Alaska > > > Hey Dan, > You've got at least one other Alaskan list guy > to share the cold weather with. I'm in Anchorage > and while we've got a little less cold and dark > than you slope guys, it's still brisk. I'm currently > in the middle of an extensive rebuild on my '67 > F-100. I hope to be driving it again by late next > summer, time permitting. Now for my question. > Does anyone on the list know if the origional > type oil bath air filters will be a problem in terms > of restricting airflow on a moderatly hi-perf 390? > It always worked great on the origional 352, at > any RPM. Seemed to offer good protection too > as the 352 still burns NO oil after 175,000mi. TIA > > Tim in Anchorage > '67 F-100 > =FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:40:22 -0800 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Diesel Air Cleaner "J.S.H." wrote: >Finaly got the specs.on the 84 Diesel Air Cleaner; 5"x15". >It has no warm air intake but has a 5" ram air hose to the >core support. Is that the filter element size? wow, that's pretty big. What's the filter number? What's the diameter of the filter housing? Thanks, Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. -- F. P. Jones == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:57:56 -0800 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 65 352 Valve Size At 06:10 PM 11/29/98 EST, you wrote: >Does anybody know the stock intake and exhaust valve size for a 65 F-250 >352-2V? > >Thanks, > >Brian 2.03" intake, 1.56" exhaust. Same as most other "garden variety" FE heads... Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. -- F. P. Jones == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:19:53 EST From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Serpentine Belt Conversion I've got a york compressor with the serpentine style pulley on it. It came off of an 80 Merc cougar with a 302. If you cant find one, lemme know and I'll yank this pulley off for ya. Just lemme know. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:42:44 EST From: CCSSportz aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - I am looking for a few parts...........and advice. In a message dated 11/29/98 7:23:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, kevkem epix.net writes: emails to the non digest address. *Ok, will do ...........Thanks as for wheeling. i wouldn't worry much about the 1/2" tire radius difference as long as the surface is not real hard pack or anything the won't allow some tire slippage. **So you are saying with the 35's up front, and the 36's out back I can still go offroad in 4WD as long as I'm on some surface that will allow my tires to slip? my pull truck has a 12% differencein gearing, turning the front faster than the rear. the fronts are lower pressure, which equals it out some too. it don't go wheeling, but it does back up the whole track to get hooked sometimes. just remember, it is the rolling radius - the distance from axle center to ground - that should be almost equal, not the diameter molded into the tire side. Yeah, because they are a smaller diameter tire (the 35's up front) they will be turning faster than the rear tires...........I know that, but I was told that because of this they will pull my rear tires along because the rear ones are going slower....... Now I am confused! oh, as for which gears are where - i can't see my truck now, but i think from front to rear it is 4L-N-4H-2H. find a knob somewhere or you can check in owners manual if you have it. someone here should know it. you see, i don't know if you have a 205 T-case or not. I just bought a Chilon repair manual and grabbed a 4wheeling magazine today -- In the 4x4 mag. I was told stock axles in my truck were Dana 44 up front, and a ford 9'' out back. In the Chilton it says I'm sopposed to have a New Process 205 Part time Transfer Case. I have to scrape the numbers off everything tomorrow, and make sure I've got what I think I have..... I still can't figure out what my tranny is even sopposed to be. So When I get the #'s I'll run 'em by you guys, and maybe you can give me some definates........ Thanks, - -Shawn 79 F-150 4x4, 351M - Just named by Dad and I " 'ZILLA " Cambridge, NY == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:23:59 -0500 From: "Ken Schneider" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - seat Unfortunately not. Sorry. Will continue to look. Ken I think we need a parts request web site or news list. > > Hi Ken, > > Have you seen any factory bench seats from a 61-66? > > Brian == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:35:48 -0800 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - intro to myself BDIJXS aol.com wrote: > Hi Eric, > > I think you'll enjoy this list.... > > Anyway, the ball joints on your steering knuckle can be easily replaced > without a press....a good local parts house will have the parts, and just > follow the special instructions on putting them back together, there is a > torque sequence you need to follow. Also, some of the tools you'll need are a > good torque wrench, a 4WD hub socket, and another spanner tool to install the > sleeve for the upper ball joint. You'll see what I mean when you get it > apart... > > If you need any more info, let us know. > > Colorado Jeff Might as well go with some new seals while you are in there also. Most good parts houses have presses availble and could do it for you for $5 or so. I found it easyier to pay the $ then try to pound the L.S. out of things. - -- Don Grossman duckdon pacific.net http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon ICQ# 19575234 63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:42:12 -0500 From: adam.hicks ppctx.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Best daily driver carb for a 460 As I had previously posted, I just had my 460 rebuilt with an Edelbrock performer 460 manifold and a Holley 750 Q-Jet Electric Choke vacuum secondary. The thing runs like a DREAM. Accelerates smooth as a Cadillac (or should I say Crown Vic for this list?!) The Carb bolted right up with all of the proper linkage, etc. I called Edelbrock, and they require you purchase different linkage kits to adapt their carbs. I didn't want to mess with it. The guy who built mine has built about 200+ 454, 460 and 502's in just about every vehicle you can imagine (big race guy) and recommended I go with this particular Holley for my application... of course, he also knew how to tune the thing perfectly in his sleep, so that probably didn't hurt. Not trying to sway your opinion, just letting you know that I couldn't be happier with mine. Adam 77' F150 460 C6 (With brand new Rotors, pads and bearings today!) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:03:23 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - seat At 08:23 PM 11/29/98 -0500, you wrote: >Unfortunately not. > >Sorry. Will continue to look. > >Ken > >I think we need a parts request web site or news list. > Our free classifieds section on the web site has hundreds of submissions per month. Ken Payne Admin http://www.ford-trucks.com >> >> Hi Ken, >> >> Have you seen any factory bench seats from a 61-66? >> >> Brian > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:28:09 EST From: CCSSportz aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gearing questions..........Among other things.... In a message dated 11/29/98 8:22:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, kevkem epix.net writes: something like 3.5front, and 3.55 rear or something like that. anyway... >> Are these good gears to have? What's the worst, what's the best? My guess is they are factory from '79 (Never been changed), should I change or upgrade them? Keep in mind I'm still working on the truck, and have yet to drive it more than up a trailer, down a trailer, and about 20 feet to park it ---- All with no steering at all. So I don't know what else will need to be done until I can drive it, and "feel" what else I need to fix. What's the deal with Detroit Lockers? I'm new to the 4x4 scene, and new to trucks, or vehicles for that matter even - I know alot of the basics, and some of the complicated stuff. I'm 16, and have worked on my Cadilllac for 2 years, my dad's mercury, and am learning ford trucks as I work on mine. I was reading a magazine and it was talking about Detroit lockers...... What are they? What do they do? About how much do they cost? And can I put one in myself? Like I said, other than knowing it is a rearend component, I don't know much. And thanks again for all of those who responded about my tire/4x4 questions. I am just going to get a new set of rubber. I found a friend of mine who can get me some military take off 36" Hummer tires........ from between 50-75 bucks apiece mounted and balanced -- They all have over 50% tread left, or close to 100% but plugged....... Which leads me to beg you guys to help me find a set of 16.5" rims to put these tires on. I have 15's and they wont cut it obviously. So any links to rims or if you have an old set laying around please contact me ASAP. Thanks alot once again - you guys on this list have saved me from a complete nervous breakdown, and a coronary at 16 years old. - -Shawn 79 F-150 4x4, 351M Cambridge, NY == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:56:30 -0800 From: "J.S.H." Subject: FTE 61-79 - Advance Test "How do you test the Vacuum Advance on a Distributor to see if it is working?? How about the Mechanical Advance??" I use a Mity Vac hand vacum pump and a adjustable timing light. Hook the pump to the vacum can on the dist. and hook timing light up,start the engine. Check the timing ,pump the Mity Vac up a bit and check the timing again, it should advance.BTW on most Fords you can adjust the vac. advance by sticking a Allen wrench in the port on the vac. can. For mech.advance,rev engine and see if the timing marks move. You can also check the timing with the engine vacum hooked up and disconnected it,should advance when connected. Don't forget to plug the vacum hose after disconnecting. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:47:43 -0500 From: Bill Templeton Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bad Crank Regarding that worn crankshaft under the front oil seal, I am pretty sure that I have seen sleeves which fit over the crankshaft in the FelPro catalog. Bill Bill Templeton temple carol.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:27:28 -0800 From: Steve & Rockette Leitch Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351Mmers out there...........all you C's andW's can look too....... :o) > Did I read that right? THREE HUNDRED EIGHTY? Holy sh*t. I guess the > aftermarket finally realized that Chevy wasn't the only company that made > a 400, huh? The last time I built one, 380 horsepower from a 400 was > science fiction. Twentyfive years ago, my bro and I built a 400ci that made a little over 500 HP for a 68 Fairlane. We used 351C 4BBL heads, 351C pistons, I bushed the rods for floating pins, modified the oiling system to survive 6500rpm blasts and went racing. We couldn't get it to hook but it ran low 13's anyway..... Steve and the Rockette == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:32:31 -0600 From: "Michael R. Masse" Subject: FTE 61-79 - C6 Question My C6 seems to be acting up and I have some questions I'm hoping someone can answer. While driving in the city I don't really notice any problems with it, but I've been getting a "feeling" lately like it's slipping. The last two times I've taken it on the interstate for at least a 1/2 hour and then came to a stop somewhere, I'll get some pretty nasty surging/slipping while trying to accelerate again. Does this sound like clutches wearing out? What are the symptoms of a torque converter wearing/worn out? It has no problem upshifting or downshifting. It seems to me that stop and go city driving would be harder on the tranny then highway driving, but both times it happens right away after being on the highway. Any C6 Guru's out there got any clues? Mike '78 Bronco Custom == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:39:48 -0500 From: Lord_Xaenon Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator......... At 03:10 PM 11/29/98 EST, you wrote: >It took me 2 weeks to find a darn repair manual --- It's a CHILTONS and covers >all US and Canadian Models of Ford F-100, F-150, F-250, F-350, and Bronco >(1978-86 only): 2 and 4 wheel drive, gasoline and diesel engines. It has a lot >of topics covered. I haven't had too much of a chance to browse through it >other than the steering component section....... >I know there are alot of you out there looking for manuals and stuff.......I >found mine finally, at a Western Auto on a trip to Vermont. It cost me 13.99. >if you need one like the one I have I can see if there are any more, buy them >and send them out like a "book order thing" or I could have mine photocopied, >and just send you the sections you need. I don't know - Up to you, just trying >to help. Hi, I've been looking for a Chilton's myself, but it looks like I'm going to have to order one, and before I go through the trouble, let me ask you: How in-depth is their emission-control section? I mean, is it just a passing reference to some of the devices on the truck or does it actually give diagrams and stuff like that? Thanks in advance. Mark == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:39:46 -0500 From: Lord_Xaenon Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F100 & F150 At 09:56 PM 11/29/98 +0100, you wrote: >How about the AOD, where that tranny ever used, maybe still used ? I think by the time they started using the AOD they had already abandoned the F-100 designation. Not that it really made much of a difference; the AOD was (allegedly) a heavier- duty trans than the old C4 anyway, but not quite as strong as the C6. Ford's had a couple of different auto-overdrive transmissions for the F-series, the AOD/AOT, the E4OD, and (I think) the A4LD was in there somewhere, too. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:52:11 EST From: CCSSportz aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE Perf - Closed tranny???? In a message dated 11/29/98 9:58:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, grover ford- trucks.com writes: it isn't a Hurst transmission, but I am not an expert on the subject. I'll put it this way though: have YOU ever heard of a high performance transmission with a granny gear? >> Like I said I don't know if it is or if it isn't. I'm getting the numbers tomorrow when I have some extra time.........Then I will know for sure what the heck I've got. I don't even know if it actually HAS granny gear, I was told that by the previous owner, who by the way knows about 100% less than I do.......... But it seems to me that any tranny made for a heavier duty truck (A heavy 1/2 Ton) and a 4x4 be it a Hurst or not, would have one lower than normal (creeper, or granny) gear for the heavier loads, and the towing involved with a heavier duty truck. Doesn't that seem logical. I'm not arguing the point of if it is a Hurst or not - I don't really care one way or another - I am just curious as to what the heck I've got in my truck....... Thanks, -Shawn 79 F-150 4x4, 351M - 'ZILLA Cambridge, NY == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:14:09 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gearing questions..........Among other things.... i love the detroit locker in the rear of my 4x4, but a trak lok( clutch type) will be best in the front, unless you are doing some serious four wheeling. jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:18:36 EST From: CCSSportz aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Re closed Tranny? and added : Manual Locator......... In a message dated 11/29/98 11:43:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, xaenon one.net writes: passing reference to some of the devices on the truck or does it actually give diagrams and stuff like that? Thanks in advance. Mark >> The one I have has the numbers (8576) 26662 on the cover, and the book itself is gray, and has a tan/brown F-150 XLT (80's style) in the center. The one I have has 28 pages of exhaust system diagrams (cover all different years for each specific vehicle) And also has a complete 66 page section devoted completely to Emission controls. That section covers Air Pollution, Catalytic Converters, Crank Case Emissions, Diagnostic Trouble Codes, Exhaust Emissions, Exhaust Emission Controls, Evaporative Emission Controls, Engine Control System, and about 40 other little sub thingies that all categorize into the above listed systems. O2 sensor, EGR, and there are a whole lot of diagrams too. Oh it also has Vacuum Diagrams. It covers a lot of stuff..........I am learning alot from it.......... If you were wondering there are 10 basic sections under which each category, and repair falls under: Routine Maintenance Engine Performance and Tune Up Engine and Engine Rebuilding Emission Controls Fuel System Chassis Electrical Drive Train Suspension and Steering Brakes and Body and Trim. Has wiring diagrams and everything. Well, worth 14 bucks in my mind. If you want Me to look into finding you one, I will, I don't know about postage and all, you may be better off just going to a Napa, or Western Auto, or some other Parts Place and seeing if they have one in stock, if not they can get it for you in 24 hours. (I didn't know this until after I bought my book after 2 weeks of searching!) Well, hope that helps anyone, and you too. - -Shawn.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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