61-79-list-digest Thursday, November 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 534



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - pushrods
Re: FTE 61-79 - I'm a newbie to the list, just bought a '79 4x4, need lots of help!!!!
FTE 61-79 - TROUBLES....AND MORE TROUBLES
RE: FTE 61-79 - Oops, I've outed myself
RE: FTE 61-79 - White Spokers - Old Style
FTE 61-79 - 292 V8 water leak
FTE 61-79 - JCW Fender Experience
FTE 61-79 - White Spokers - Old Style
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re inside runners which hold the glass inside the 79 Bronco tailgate.
Re: FTE 61-79 - I'm a newbie to the list, just bought a '79 4x4,need lots of ...
FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners
RE: FTE 61-79 - detroit locker 9" ford
RE: FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners
FTE 61-79 - New to the list
RE: FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners
FTE 61-79 - FW: Looking for a lead
Re: FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners
FTE 61-79 - 400M?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 400M?
FTE 61-79 - new member/wiring
Re: FTE 61-79 - I'm a newbie to the list, just bought a '79 4x4,need lots of ...
FTE 61-79 - F-100 Steering wheels
Re: FTE 61-79 - TROUBLES....AND MORE TROUBLES
Re: FTE 61-79 - 400M?
FTE 61-79 - Ref. Rag Joint vs. Universal Joint
Re: FTE 61-79 - detroit locker 9
Re: FTE 61-79 - pushrods

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:00:49 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - pushrods

385 series Gurus:

How many different lengths of pushrods were factory stock for the 385
series (429/460)?????
I'm not interested in the 429 super CJ as it was mechanical
lifters!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think I know for sure there were 2 but I believe there were 3.

TIA

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:58:45 -0500
From: David Wadson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - I'm a newbie to the list, just bought a '79 4x4, need lots of help!!!!

> I am new to this list (yesterday), and I am new to old trucks. I'm 16,
>and just bought the truck of my dreams, well, I'd rather have a '77 or '78,
>but I just got a '79 F-150 4x4.

If you really want a '78 then find yourself a set of round headlights. If
you want a '77 then find yourself the front grill assembly. :-)

>scratches, but I'm going to paint it soon. Well, anyway you all probably think
>I'm a nutcase, my first post is long and boring - I'm sorry.

If buying an old Ford truck and having to tinker and fix a few dozen things
is grounds for being a nutcase, then we should all be wearing those white
sportcoats with the sleeves that go to the back. :-)

>I paid 325.00 for it, I had to rent a trailer, and drive 5 hours one way to
>get it. I love it, I hope you all can help me out and work me through some
>problems that may occur.

WHAT?!? Man, up here in Northwestern Ontario we pay twice that much for a
2WD, rusted out piece of crap that barely runs!

>It's always been my dream to get an old FORD truck, and work on it all by
>myself. I just don't have alot of experience, and don't know what I'm going
>alot of the time, so if I sound like I'm lost I probably am.

Personally, I think half the beauty of these Fords is that you don't
necessarily have to be a mechanical genius to work on them. I've just
finished rebuilding my first motor, a 302, and rebuilt/repaired most of an
F100. The key is to have connections to people that have had a Ford truck
for a while...like this list!

Happy truckin...


David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS2" - 78 F100 w/ 302 & C4


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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:06:39 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - TROUBLES....AND MORE TROUBLES

>>>>One last problem: transmission. 3 speed automatic, it makes a
metallic grating sound with I put it into gear, either DRIVE or
REVERSE. Sounds like some sort of metal getting caught up between
something. The sound comes up from the front part of the truck.

Could be a couple things.

1. The trans. pump could be worn out. This is in the front of the
transmission. Usually it makes noise when the engine is running though,
regardless of what gear it is in (even neutral).

2. There is a fiber washer located between the pump housing and the first
clutch pack drum. If this washer goes then the clutch drum will rub metal
to metal against the pump housing. The transmission will still work until
enough metal is worn off that the clutches will no longer disengage. I
know this since the same thing happened to a F150 I bought. The
transmission would only go into reverse when I bought it so I pulled the
trans apart and found that to be the problem. Has to replace the pump and
the drum since too much had been ground away.

I just reread your question. You said the sound is coming from the front
of your truck. Did you mean to say transmission? If so then "never mind".


Jon E. Purut
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/Chelley
one 64 F500, one 77 F150 and a pair of 65 F100's

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:04:26 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Oops, I've outed myself

Keep me updated on Crewcab club/homepage status. I have a 1976 Crew, and
love it. Still trying to re-find the 1966 crew I saw two years ago.
Rick

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> From: Jeff Carver[SMTP:truck.carver mailcity.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 6:10 PM
> To: Ford Trucks
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oops, I've outed myself
>
> Oops, that last message was supposed to be pmail
> to John, but . . . . . . blame goes to new email account
> and operator error.
>
> Looks like my past (and present) involvement with
> 'another' vehicle type has been exposed for all to flame,
> ah, er, see, um, how about tolerate?
>
> One thing you'all should know. I may flirt with 'others',
> but the last (hopefully NEVER) vehicle to leave my
> side will be my '64 F100 CrewCab.
>
> I spotted that truck driving by when I was 10, dad &
> I chased it down on our bicycles, it's been in the family
> since 1965, it ain't gonna leave.
>
> I may be experienced with some vehicles, but everything
> I do, and everything I ask about, concerning this truck
> is a brand new experience for me. VW's are just TOO
> different to translate experience easily, & I didn't grow
> up working on any vehicles, so I'm starting my Ford truck
> education now! It's never too late to learn.
>
>
> Jeff
> '64 F100 CrewCab
> I'd like any leads on other old crewcabs (any make) as
> I'd like to start a webpage devoted to crewcabs.
>
>
> Get your FREE Email at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://mailcity.lycos.com
> Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://personal.lycos.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:08:51 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - White Spokers - Old Style

Jeff, I may have your wheels. If I do, you can have them for free. Also,
I am in Colorado too. I also have a crew. Rick

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> From: BDIJXS aol.com[SMTP:BDIJXS aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 5:39 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - White Spokers - Old Style
>
> I'm looking for a set of 8.25x16.5 (8-lug) white spokes....you know, the
> older
> style. I looked at a new set today at Discount Tire, and they look
> different
> than the "older" style...
>
> The older style seemed to have bigger "spokes".....
>
> Anyone know if anyone makes these anymore, or does anyone have a set
> laying
> around????
>
> Colorado Jeff
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:20:25 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 292 V8 water leak

>Where is the coolant sensor attached?
>I'll have to take a much closer look & double
>check manual.
>
Jeff:
It screws into the left (drivers) side head just behind the intake
manifold. It's a little bitty thing. Mine has a red wire going to it with
a black 90 degree boot on the end.

Good luck with your leak and welcome home from the krautwagens (I am 100%
German so it is ok for me to say that). I always considered them firetraps
but there sure are a lot of folks who love 'em. Interestingly my dad
considered a VW for his work car before he bought a '64 F100 - I remember
looking at them at the local dealership. Even though I don't have the same
one my dad had like you do, I got one in honor of his old beater.

Any further questions feel free to ask - I love email.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:45:57 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - JCW Fender Experience

Thought I would pass this along. I took a chance and ordered two front fenders
for 73-79 trucks from JCW. I had to refuse shipment because they were only
wrapped in cardboard and had been bent pretty bad during shipping. I noticed
on the cardboard that they were made in Taiwan.....

Its really too bad, if somebody would just spend a few extra dollars to
package those things better, they probably would have worked fine...

Cancelled that order, and I'll try some from some other sources I found in
Four Wheeler magazine....

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:46:09 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - White Spokers - Old Style

Hey Darrell,

Thanks for the offer, but I'm looking for the 8.25" width....so, you
understood what I meant by "older style" spokers.

They seem to actually have spokes rather than a solid rim with a series of
triangles cut into it.....

Anyone else????

Thanks!

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:52:19 -0700
From: "Miska, Richard L (Rick)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re inside runners which hold the glass inside the 79 Bronco tailgate.

I got mine at the ford dealer. Sill Tehar Ford in Broomfield CO.

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> From: Mr. Paul R. Boudreault[SMTP:pboudreault sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 1998 4:49 AM
> To: Bigbroncos-Digest (E-mail); Perf-List-Digest (E-mail); 'Ford CHAT';
> 'Off Road Disgest List'
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re inside runners which hold the glass inside
> the 79 Bronco tailgate.
>
> Hi Everyone.
>
> Anyone know where I can get a pair of these runners? They guide the glass
> as it goes in and out of the tailgate on the 79 Bronco. It goes without
> saying that FORD ain't got them anymore. I haven't seen them in any of
> the
> parts books for aftermarket I have either.
>
> Looks like used is my only option, (aside from making them myself, which I
> would rather not).
>
> If anyone can help let me know.
>
> Thanks
>
> "Paul"
>
>
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:46:50 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - I'm a newbie to the list, just bought a '79 4x4,need lots of ...

In a message dated 11/25/98 6:17:20 AM MST, wadsond air.on.ca writes:


you want a '77 then find yourself the front grill assembly. :-) >>

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the reason he wanted something
earlier than the 79 is the smog regulations. 79 definately had cats, 78 Light
duty I think had cats, but early, and possibly the late 77 didnt.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:50:02 PST
From: "Brandon Henderson"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners

Good morning!

I'm new to this list. I have a 62 Econoline van that I want to
completely restore. Currently I have a 170 in it, but I called Summit
Racing and they said that I could fit a small block 302 in it. Does any
Econoline owner out there have a 302 in their van? Also I know of two
places that provide part for the Eco van and truck, Macs and Dennis
Carpenters. Is there any place else that you may no of? Anything will
help!

Thanks!
Brandon / 62 Ford Econoline van

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:59:29 -0700
From: "Syber"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - detroit locker 9" ford

Very,
Will it fit the spline count in my '79 Bronco? How much are you asking?

Can respond back to syber pcisys.net

Paul Fogle
'79 Bronco Custom, 351M
4" Rough Country Suspension Lift, 33" BFG MT's
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Subject: FTE 61-79 - detroit locker 9" ford


i have a nice detroit locker for sale, anyone interested?

jeff grant
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:04:35 -0800
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners

I'm thinking that would be a pretty tight fit and require a lot of
fabrication. How about a 300 6cyl? That might be too tight, but the
modifications to the van would be substantially less. Also, if you change
the van at all from stock, you are not "restoring" it.

Best of luck and I'm sure someone else here has been down this road (at
least looked down it)
Rich
67 F100

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Henderson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 8:50 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners
>
> Good morning!
>
> I'm new to this list. I have a 62 Econoline van that I want to
> completely restore. Currently I have a 170 in it, but I called Summit
> Racing and they said that I could fit a small block 302 in it. Does any
> Econoline owner out there have a 302 in their van? Also I know of two
> places that provide part for the Eco van and truck, Macs and Dennis
> Carpenters. Is there any place else that you may no of? Anything will
> help!
>
> Thanks!
> Brandon / 62 Ford Econoline van
>
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:07:19 PST
From: "Jerald Merrick"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - New to the list

Howdy from Wyoming.
I'm new to the list. I have a 71 F-100 Ranger, its pretty much
stock, 360, with the C-4, and a 9 inch ass end. I would like to restore
the old truck. It's a sharp looking truck Corral Red and Whendlem
White. I am worndering if anyone could direct me to a couple of
catalogs that are for 67-72 Ford Pick-ups, I already have a Mac's
catolog.
Thanks
J. A. Merrick
Mr. Ranger

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:13:24 PST
From: "Jerald Merrick"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners

You could try a 240, same block as the 300, just a little smaller. 150
hp, 175 torq

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>I'm thinking that would be a pretty tight fit and require a lot of
>fabrication. How about a 300 6cyl? That might be too tight, but the
>modifications to the van would be substantially less. Also, if you
change
>the van at all from stock, you are not "restoring" it.
>
>Best of luck and I'm sure someone else here has been down this road (at
>least looked down it)
>Rich
>67 F100
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brandon Henderson
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 8:50 AM
>> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners
>>
>> Good morning!
>>
>> I'm new to this list. I have a 62 Econoline van that I want to
>> completely restore. Currently I have a 170 in it, but I called
Summit
>> Racing and they said that I could fit a small block 302 in it. Does
any
>> Econoline owner out there have a 302 in their van? Also I know of
two
>> places that provide part for the Eco van and truck, Macs and Dennis
>> Carpenters. Is there any place else that you may no of? Anything
will
>> help!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Brandon / 62 Ford Econoline van
>>
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:00:31 -0500
From: pdesanto Cinergy.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FW: Looking for a lead

Hi- I'm forwarding this for a friend. He couldn't post for some reason.
Just reply to me and I'll pass it on. Phil FGCOA #694

> From: oldfords63 juno.com (M. Gurchiek)
>
> Hi all, first time I've ever posted here so bear with me. I'm looking for
> a source for something and figured with this knowledge base some one out
> there could help me.
> I'm wanting to redo some dash and misc. small trim panels on another
> project and am looking for a source of " Engine turned " trim. ( Like the
> 55-56 T-Bird; Impalas Super Sports of the 60's or Trans- Ams ) I don't
> want the metal panels ( $$$ ), but am trying to find it in the form of
> self adhesive, cut to fit tape. I remember seeing this stuff a few years
> ago, but can't seem to find it now. (not EVEN in J.C. Whitney !) I'm
> not wanting the "Prism tape" from the 70's; but actual "Engine Turned" or
> "Damascening" swirl finish. As in the Eastwood catalog. I'll resort to
> using that kit if I have to, but it's so time consuming I'd prefer the
> tape if I can still get it. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> M.G.
>
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:34:18 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Econoline Owners

>I'm new to this list. I have a 62 Econoline van that I want to
>completely restore. Currently I have a 170 in it, but I called Summit
>Racing and they said that I could fit a small block 302 in it. Does any
>Econoline owner out there have a 302 in their van? Also I know of two
>places that provide part for the Eco van and truck, Macs and Dennis
>Carpenters. Is there any place else that you may no of? Anything will
>help!
>
>Thanks!
>Brandon / 62 Ford Econoline van

Brandon,

Some years ago I knew a guy that was a real freak for old econolines
and had a bunch of them. One of them was an early 60's econoline van
with a 289 in it...
I don't know any of the particulars on the swap, but it looked like it
fit in there O.K, and wasn't a big hack job.
I rode in it a couple times, and it was fast enough to be kinda scary.
I don't know what it takes to fit a small block in an old econoline,
but I know it's possible.

Steve
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Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to
recognize a mistake when you make it again.
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:08:05 EST
From: FFriedland aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 400M?

I am new to this list...I have just bought a 72 Ranchero GT with a 400M
engine. I am having a little trouble finding out about this engine...the 351M
seems more common. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Fabian
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:52:47 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 400M?

Well first of all ya gotta learn the correct designation for the engine.
It's not a 400M it's a 400. The M stands for Modified or Michigan
or..or...It's basically used as the designator for the 351 to distinguish
it from the 351C and 351W. Basically the 351M is a destroked 400. The
engine is part of the Cleveland family. The heads are Cleveland 2V style
with smaller intake runners than the 4V heads. The block is larger than the
Cleveland block and shares the bell housing bolt pattern & distributor of
the 429/460 engine.

The biggest issue with the 351M/400 motors is that they were products of
the smog nazis of the 70s/early 80s i.e. low compression & emissions choked
The aftermarket support is rather limited but with some judicious
machining and cam selection they can be made to kick a**. There was an
article in the Sept. 98 Hot Rod magazine about a 400 being put in a
Ranchero. For less than $2K they ended up with 380 HP & 468 lb-ft torque,
375 of which occurred at 2000 RPM. Ohhh baby...

More info at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/cleveland.html

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> From: FFriedland aol.com
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 400M?
> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 1:08 PM
>
> I am new to this list...I have just bought a 72 Ranchero GT with a 400M
> engine. I am having a little trouble finding out about this engine...the
351M
> seems more common. Any ideas?

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:57:30 PST
From: "Joe Swinko"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - new member/wiring

Hello all. I am a new member and I own a 1966 custom cab F-100. The
previous owner installed a 351W/FMX combo.I needed to get a steering
column from a 74 or so Ford, to go with the auto trans. Anyways, my
truck needs rewired. I was wondering what was the best aftermarket fuse
block or harness would be the best choice for my truck. Please keep in
mind I plan to make some improvements over the next few years (bigger
engine ;^) power windows, sound system). Also, I need a wiring diagram
for a 66 and/or the 1972 351W/FMX. Any help would certainly be
appreciated.

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 18:55:25 EST
From: CCSSportz aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - I'm a newbie to the list, just bought a '79 4x4,need lots of ...

In a message dated 11/25/98 10:55:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
JUMPINFORD aol.com writes:


earlier than the 79 is the smog regulations. >>

Correcting...........

Sorry - I wanted the '77 for the grille, and the '78 because I saw one at
fordtrucks.com, that I really liked...... Sorry if there was any confusion.

- -Shawn
(Kelliher15, CCSSportz ---- both are at aol.com )
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:21:47 -0500 (EST)
From: jdklaers mailhost.magicnet.net (PredFan)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-100 Steering wheels

Fellow Ford nuts:

I'm having trouble with my steering wheel (I think it's the wrong one),
does anyone here have a '71 F-100?

PredFan


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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:30:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Justin Farcas
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - TROUBLES....AND MORE TROUBLES

Yeah, the transmission. Thanks 4 your help.

Justin

>
> >>>>One last problem: transmission. 3 speed automatic, it makes a
> metallic grating sound with I put it into gear, either DRIVE or
> REVERSE. Sounds like some sort of metal getting caught up between
> something. The sound comes up from the front part of the truck.
>
> Could be a couple things.
>
> 1. The trans. pump could be worn out. This is in the front of the
> transmission. Usually it makes noise when the engine is running though,
> regardless of what gear it is in (even neutral).
>
> 2. There is a fiber washer located between the pump housing and the first
> clutch pack drum. If this washer goes then the clutch drum will rub metal
> to metal against the pump housing. The transmission will still work until
> enough metal is worn off that the clutches will no longer disengage. I
> know this since the same thing happened to a F150 I bought. The
> transmission would only go into reverse when I bought it so I pulled the
> trans apart and found that to be the problem. Has to replace the pump and
> the drum since too much had been ground away.
>
> I just reread your question. You said the sound is coming from the front
> of your truck. Did you mean to say transmission? If so then "never mind".
>
>
> Jon E. Purut
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/Chelley
> one 64 F500, one 77 F150 and a pair of 65 F100's
>
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-Justin Farcas
Mechanical Support
Don Wood Automotive
ae571 seorf.ohiou.edu


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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:03:51 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 400M?

FFriedland aol.com wrote:
>
> I am new to this list...I have just bought a 72 Ranchero GT with a 400M
> engine. I am having a little trouble finding out about this engine...the 351M
> seems more common. Any ideas?

They are identical except for the crank and the rods.

OX
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fabian
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:39:23 -0500
From: "Bob"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ref. Rag Joint vs. Universal Joint

Just a short observation about the rag joint in the steering column...It
has two functions. First and most obvious is to change the angle between
the steering wheel & the steering box. The second and not so obvious is to
make the column collapsible. If you have ever seen a vehicle that took a
hard impact to the front end, you will see where the rag joint tore apart
to prevent the column & steering from crushing the chest of the driver.
This was one of the first safety features put into modern cars & trucks.
Yes it is cheaper than a universal joint and its also cheaper than a slip
joint. The learning channel had a program on the history automotive crash
testing & vehicle safety either the end of Oct or the first of Nov, & they
covered this and a few other items related to passenger safety.


Bob
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