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61-79-list-digest Thursday, November 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 528 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - 76 4x4 steering FTE 61-79 - Dash lights FTE 61-79 - 351/302 swap FTE 61-79 - Dash lights FTE 61-79 - vacuum switch Re: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? FTE 61-79 - smoke colors RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 76 4x4 steering RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? Re: FTE 61-79 - mystery headlight/vacuum switch FTE 61-79 - Late 70's 4X4 FW: Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? Re: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? FTE 61-79 - Re: Radius Arm Bracket Modications Vs Drop Down Bracket. FTE 61-79 - 4 wheel disc brakes FTE 61-79 - rag joint FTE 61-79 - F-100 Power Steering FTE 61-79 - vacuum switch Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Radius Arm Bracket Modications Vs Drop Down Bracket. Re: FTE 61-79 - 4 wheel disc brakes FTE 61-79 - Got to go gang :-( FTE 61-79 - RE: 61-79- Dash Lights FTE 61-79 - dash lights FTE 61-79 - RE:AFB carb FTE 61-79 - thanks Re: FTE 61-79 - mystery headlight/vacuum switch Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd Re: FTE 61-79 - vacuum switch Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd FTE 61-79 - re: Dash Lights Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - rag joint RE: (Archive Copy) Re: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? FTE 61-79 - Rareity of '66 w/ I-beam suspension Re: FTE 61-79 - Rareity of '66 w/ I-beam suspension RE: FTE 61-79 - Rareity of '66 w/ I-beam suspension Re: FTE 61-79 - M block oil pump - WAS No spark FTE 61-79 - Steering Shaft Solution- Answers and Prices Re: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? FTE 61-79 - new member/wiring Re: FTE 61-79 - Rareity of '66 w/ I-beam suspension Re: FTE 61-79 - rag joint Re: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? RE: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? Re: FTE 61-79 - 4 wheel disc brakes Re: FTE 61-79 - new member/wiring FTE 61-79 - restoring a 69 F-100 Re: FTE 61-79 - restoring a 69 F-100 FTE 61-79 - Interesting item on eBay web site item#43240851: 1969 FORD TRUCK Shop MANUALS- 4 vol. LIKE NEW FTE 61-79 - Help! FTE 61-79 - restoring a 69 F-100 RE: FTE 61-79 - Help! ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:40:17 PST From: "Mark D" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 76 4x4 steering Hello all I am attempting to tighten my steering on a 76 F-250, it has the piston type steering anyone have good ideas an tighten this type of steering or replacing it with a updated type. Thank You Mark ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:08:55 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dash lights Arlene Mason writes: >>I have a problem with the dash lights on my '77 F100. It seems I have tried replacing everything, the bulbs, the fuses, etc. and still no dash lights. The only thing I got from the deal was a broken odometer. (that's another story). Has anyone else had this problem? How can I fix it?? You forgot the most probable cause - - - and that is the rheostat in the headlamp switch itself. They are known to give problems. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:12:09 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351/302 swap Bill in Texas writes: >>Anyone know if I will have any problems with the '76 C4 fittin' up to the 70 351W? My understanding is, it is a "bolt in". No changes necessary. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:17:08 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dash lights Jesus Cardoso writes : >> Since we are talking about dask lights, does anyone know what year the variable resistors were installed in the operation of the dash lights? I am just trying to figure out if my '63 is suppose to have one. Yes!!! Your '63 should have one. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:25:06 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - vacuum switch Jim Elliott writes: >> but cannot imagine what a vacuum switch on the headlight switch would be for, any ideas? For flip-up headlamps maybe!!!! Didn't the '61-'63 T-birds have hidden (flip-up) headlamps??? Some models along there did and If I were a betting man, I would bet that is the application for this particular switch assy. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:26:39 -0500 From: luxjo thecore.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? RKocsis627 aol.com wrote: > > Is it worth it to Change my 351M 2-V to an Edelbrock 4-V intake and carb? I'm > lookin for a little more get up and go. Does it make that much of a difference > or would I just be wasting my money? I appreciate any opinions, thanks. I noticed some difference, but not as much as I thought I would. Hard to say if it was worth the 4-500$ it costs for new parts. If you have the stuff or are getting it used, then by all means do it, swap is super easy. Possibly a cam/4 bbl swap would make more of a difference. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:28:28 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - smoke colors Justin Farcas writes: >>Could someone give me a rundown of the types of exhaust smoke, their color and such, and what they pertain to? i.e. - bluish smoke = burning oil. Blue = Oil White = water Black = excess fuel(running rich)(flooding) Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:28:10 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 76 4x4 steering Mark, I assume you have one of the earlier 70's 4WD which had a master slave cylinder attached to the steering arm and then to the tie rod. The best thing to do with that is trash it. Replace with a 78 - 79 steering box setup that uses a pitman arm attached to the box a drag link that goes from the piman arm to the steering knuckle and a steering knucle arm to connect the drag link. this all seems like expensive but it is not the steering box is about 50 or so dollars in the bone yard, the rest of the parts are readily available in your super mart parts stores. the only real problem is the frame needs to be notched on the drivers side where you are going to place the box. Drill the holes and bolt it in. On My 73 f250 I also bolted a plate to the ouside of the frame for strength although I was told it was unnecessary. It is some work but very little fabrication and the parts are easy to come by. If I can get some light on mine I will send a picture so you can see it and will try to get a parts list. - -----Original Message----- From: Mark D [SMTP:msd5256 hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 4:40 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 76 4x4 steering Hello all I am attempting to tighten my steering on a 76 F-250, it has the piston type steering anyone have good ideas an tighten this type of steering or replacing it with a updated type. Thank You Mark ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:34:27 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? I had a 73 ford galaxie 500 with the 400M and tried this with a 4 barrel intake and carb worked OK but was kind of expensive and did not run as well as it sould for the money and wasted alot of fuel. ended up going back to the 2 barrel the major problem with these motors are the heads flow about as well as a porous brick. Head work would have made a lot of difference if you want to spend the money. Of course a 460 would be better. - -----Original Message----- From: RKocsis627 aol.com [SMTP:RKocsis627 aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 8:12 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? Is it worth it to Change my 351M 2-V to an Edelbrock 4-V intake and carb? I'm lookin for a little more get up and go. Does it make that much of a difference or would I just be wasting my money? I appreciate any opinions, thanks. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:25:34 -0600 From: "James Elliott" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - mystery headlight/vacuum switch William Hart replied: Ever seen the switch on a 69 Cougar ... lots of vacuum there for the headlight covers! Several other years had them too, but since you said 69 and we have one it was the first to pop into my head. Are you sure you got a switch for a truck ? I've never seen one with (factory) headlight covers ... maybe its a new option ;) My first thought was also headlight covers, but also know of no truck that had them. However, the knob is a exact match for all the others, so I am sure it came out as a set with the others. Perhaps they sold a universal replacement switch assembly that included the vacuum valve?, Let's see, that year I think not only Cougars, but T-birds, and perhaps some various versions of the XL, Torino GT, and Cyclone had headlight doors? Jim E. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:43:36 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Late 70's 4X4 Michael smart writes: >>I'm looking for a '78 - '79 F250 4x4, preferably a Super Cab Camper Special or a Highboy, but will consider any with decent body/bed and in good running condition. Manual or automatic transmission, 400 cid or larger engine, and 4:10 gears. Yea, I know I'm dreaming, but some one out there must have one for sale or know of someone who does. Please send an E-mail to pmmcs sweetwater.net or mrsmart fiw.net. Aren't we all looking for one of these???????? Or an F-350???? Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:46:41 -0500 From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault" Subject: FW: Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? - -----Original Message----- From: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 8:40 AM To: Bigbroncos-Digest (E-mail) Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? Hi Bill. Reference: wrong ULR - Oops! Sorry - sometimes it is hard to type with "sausage fingers". ;>) Later. "Paul" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:55:33 -0500 From: luxjo thecore.com Subject: Re: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? Jim Pliss wrote: > > I had a 73 ford galaxie 500 with the 400M and tried this with a 4 barrel > intake and carb worked OK but was kind of expensive and did not run as well > as it sould for the money and wasted alot of fuel. ended up going back to > the 2 barrel the major problem with these motors are the heads flow about > as well as a porous brick. Head work would have made a lot of difference if > you want to spend the money. Of course a 460 would be better. > I don't know if I agre with that, especially after reading Hot rods article on their 400 buildup. They gasket matched heads and had a valve job done, but that is about it. I think the major issues to be addressed with the 351M/400 are the cam (and cam timing) and compression. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:05:57 -0500 From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Radius Arm Bracket Modications Vs Drop Down Bracket. I plan on ditching the drop downs and having my stock drops modified with cirluar wedges welded on either side of radius arm hole. I will also have to add a wedge in front of lower spring pads. I want to do this to get radius arms up out of the way and help pinion angle. They hang too low IMO. OX Got pictures/ more info on this? And about the "angle of the Springs (We are talking about the front coils right?)" - Do you think wedges/ Shims/whatever is the answer? Since I have lots of time and want this to be done right. You thinking along the lines of extending the arms, modifying the brackets so they are back further, etc...? Let me know what this looks like and how difficult. Later, "Paul" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:09:27 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4 wheel disc brakes What kind of emergency brake system do the Ford 4 wheel disc brake sytems use? I mean besides step on the little pedal or pull the lever. I always had a hard time getting my 77 Eldo to pass safety inspection because they said the emergency brake didn't hold. It also had an automatic release when you put it in gear. They would try to hold it with their foot while the car was in gear then rev the engine. Duh! I would always get underneath and tighten up the cables before I went, then readjust them to specs when I got home. My brother's 81 Eldo was worse. It had some kind of screw actuator that would always stick. For a road car or truck, I never saw any big advantage to 4 wheel discs. Front discs rear drums, now there is a functional combo. - -John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:14:22 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - rag joint I am going to ask a dumb question. What is a rag joint? I always thought y'all (that's a legal word in Texas) were talking about the section where the pieces of tire are. - -John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:17:57 -0600 From: Sean Williams Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-100 Power Steering I am soon to be the proud owner of a '72 F-100 short box, and I was wondering if anyone could give me the rundown on adding power steering to this truck. Also, the truck has what I believe is the factory 3-speed manual on the floor. What tranny is this? and will it bolt up to a newer ('91-'92) 302 out of an F-150? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:26:06 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - vacuum switch Jim, I haven't read all of the list yet, but the vacuum switch operates the headlight doors on LTDs, Marquis, Towncars, Cougars, etc. Either someone replaced the switch from one of those cars or it was just easier and cheaper for FoMoCo to put the same switch in everything. - -John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:49:46 -0500 From: luxjo thecore.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Radius Arm Bracket Modications Vs Drop Down Bracket. Mr. Paul R. Boudreault wrote: > > > I plan on ditching the drop downs and having my stock drops modified > with cirluar wedges welded on either side of radius arm hole. I will > also have to add a wedge in front of lower spring pads. I want to do > this to get radius arms up out of the way and help pinion angle. They > hang too low IMO. > > OX > > > Got pictures/ more info on this? And about the "angle of the Springs (We > are talking about the front coils right?)" - Do you think wedges/ > Shims/whatever is the answer? > No pictures. Which problem are we talking. I have allready fixed the problem of the stock lower spring pad bending downward on the outside edges. Since these pads rest more on the inner edge, the outer edge is more prone to bending when the pads are abused or rusting from age. I got a set of fairly decent used pads and cut a round 1/8 inch plate to weld on the bottom of spring pad. I bent the plate in the middle, just a hair farther than the factory bend that is allready there (side to side). I then welded the plates in with the inner end of plate resting against bottom of pad, but the outer part of plate having a gap between it and pad. This would be front drivers side view. Frame side Tire side Spring () () () () Spring () bolt holes () Pad () __( )___________ () ()___-------__( )____ ------_______() Welded plate ------ ---____ Gap here Radius ----______ arm here I filled in this gap with weld (about 1/8 inch). This is trial and error as I had to weld additional thin plating on outer edge of the plate I allready had welded to get the springs perfectectly straight up and down. This also gave me the full lift I was supposed to have with my front springs, over an inch more than when springs were bowing (Sp???). > Since I have lots of time and want this to be done right. > > You thinking along the lines of extending the arms, modifying the brackets > so they are back further, etc...? No I think they are long enough on 78-79 bronc's, I just need pinion angle help and would like to get them up out of the way. > Let me know what this looks like and how difficult. You'll be the first to know if/when I get to it. Just finished up welding my traction bar together last night. It's a 3/4 inch rod end screwed into rod coupling which is welded to single 2.5 inch sqaure tube that runs from crossmemeber I installed, right below CV joint, down along DS. It runs down next to driveshaft (drivers side), then splits off (right before spline section) with 4 smaller 1.5 inch suqare tubes, two on each side. One set runs on either side of pumpkin, mounting to axle tubes with 5/8 U-bolts. I tried extreme susp angles last night with front left and right rear tires hanging and it does seem to bind somewhat, but my truck is a mud runner and it's more suspension travel then I can usually get with the flat terrain around here. I just hope I have this DS/pinion angle spring wrap thing licked once and for all. If you follow the Bronco list, you have heard my tails of DS breakage, spring wrap, and how I spit my 4 inch lift blocks clean out of the truck 2 weeks ago. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:56:34 -0500 From: luxjo thecore.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4 wheel disc brakes John LaGrone wrote: > > What kind of emergency brake system do the Ford 4 wheel disc brake sytems > use? I mean besides step on the little pedal or pull the lever. Mustangs T-birds used the same ratchet type setup that GM used. I always > had a hard time getting my 77 Eldo to pass safety inspection because they > said the emergency brake didn't hold. Mine works awsome, but my emerg brake light is out, so I keep leaving it on. The truck seems real sluggish and I realize DUH!!!, I'm driving around with it on. I allready fried my first set of pads in less than a 1000 miles. Maybe I'll wire an aftermarket oil pressure light right in my face for the emerg nrake ;-) . For a road car or truck, I never saw any big > advantage to 4 wheel discs. Front discs rear drums, now there is a > functional combo. True , but I hate doing drum brakes, especially when the insides are completley full of mud ;-) I was eating up rear shoes every time I went wheelin. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:02:49 -0500 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Got to go gang :-( Well the computers are set up and I have to get our data base set up with record locking etc. so I have to turn off my mail for a while. See y'all whenever I can get back :-) Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary -- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:03:33 -0800 From: "Gillespie, John D." Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 61-79- Dash Lights My 66F100 has the variable resistor built into the headlight switch and is currently bypassed due to the resistor wire on the insulator broken off (previous owner). The replacement headlight switch w/dimmer is available at you local parts house providing the parts chimps know what they are looking far. Also when you are talking to them make sure that you have the switch and the knob and shaft with you because it matters which model you get (don't ask :-)). Also you have to fish under the dash to find the release button on the switch assembly to remove the shaft. Just be sure that the battery is disconnected because Primary power goes through the light switch before it gets to the ignition switch and the dash. And that HURTS!!! (Mutter mutter cuss cuss!!!!!) John == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:12:15 EST From: Phazelag aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - dash lights I have had a problem with my dash lights and it was the rear panel that holds the light bulbs in didnt hold them tight enough to the wiring card. in some cases only one loose light bulb will break the connection for all of the dash lights. I tried tape, glue for a quick fix but then I went the junk yard and found one in great condition no problem now. I think you can get those new from Obsolete Ford Parts, inc 405-634-6815 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:01:10 -0800 From: "Wiltzius, Tom" Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:AFB carb Steve, Thanks for the info on the Carter AFB I think I'll start with the upper port and see how that works and go from there. Thanks again Tom Reno,NV == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:02:38 -0500 (EST) From: Justin Farcas Subject: FTE 61-79 - thanks Thanks to everyone who replied to my message on smoke types. I know now, that it might be bad valve stem guides, but no sure. The exhaust doesn't smell like oil all the time, but once in a while, after I haven't accelerated much at all, or i it's been idling for a while, I can tap the gas a little, and smell something that smells like burnt out come out of the exhaust pipe on the driver's side. Any comments/solutions? Thanks again, -Justin Farcas 79 Ford F150 4x4 460 bbl -- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:20:44 -0600 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - mystery headlight/vacuum switch >Ever seen the switch on a 69 Cougar ... lots of vacuum there for the >headlight covers! Several other years had them too, but since you said 69 >and we have one it was the first to pop into my head. Are you sure you got >a switch for a truck ? I've never seen one with (factory) headlight covers >... maybe its a new option ;) > > >My first thought was also headlight covers, but also know of no truck that >had them. However, the knob is a exact match for all the others, so I am >sure it came out as a set with the others. Perhaps they sold a universal >replacement switch assembly that included the vacuum valve?, Let's see, that >year I think not only Cougars, but T-birds, and perhaps some various >versions of the XL, Torino GT, and Cyclone had headlight doors? > The switches are similar in all these cars as far as I know, maybe not exact (sizing), but i would be surprised if Ford didn't duplicate most of them ... As for which of those had covers, the XL did, don't think the Torino/Ranchero did for 69 (70 did) and the Cyclone was definately a 70/71 only thing since there were only a handful of the 69 Cyclone's if I remember right ... really rare, they're Mercury's version of the Talledega ... I think I've seen one (69 Cyclone that is) in my life ... Just my 2cents Bill Auto Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/cars.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Trucks/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Cars/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:29:13 -0700 From: "Dave Resch" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd >From: Shawn Donkin >Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd > >will the manifolds from my old 351c >fit on the 351m? I think i heard that the heads are >the same on 2V 351c's and 351m's.Is this true? Yo Shawn: Yes, the 351C 2V cylinder heads and the 351M cylinder heads are the same design. Any exhaust manifold (or header) that bolts to one will bolt to the other. Don't know if the 351C manifolds will give you any better clearance in your truck, though, since the 351M is a wider engine. Good luck. Dave R. (M-block devotee) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:32:28 -0800 (PST) From: Pat Brown Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - vacuum switch Azie wrote: > Jim Elliott writes: >> but cannot imagine what a vacuum switch on the > headlight switch would be for, any ideas? > > For flip-up headlamps maybe!!!! Didn't the '61-'63 T-birds have hidden > (flip-up) headlamps??? Some models along there did and If I were a betting > man, I would bet that is the application for this particular switch assy. You guys have this all wrong, It's a California smog thing. They found that smog increases on friday and saturday nights, when all thoses trucks were out cruising main st. So, the vacuum advance got plumbed through the light switch, disconnecting it when the lights were on. NOX was reduced, the EPA was happy, and it took over twenty years for us to figure it out. - -- Pat Brown Sebastopol, California Where cruising is prohibited in many cities == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:06:02 -0600 From: Shawn Donkin Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd well, i just got out from under my truck trying to see if the exhast pipes will fit with the 351m manifolds and they really dont look like they will fit. the ones on the 351c look like they are pointed away from the transmission(which is where the 351m manifold are just about straight down from the engine) and that's what seems to be the problem, the pipes are hitting the tranny bellhousing. I'm hoping moving my engine mount perches wont change this after i install the 351c manifolds. Should i be using a c6 with a long tailshaft in this swap? It might be tight getting the driveshaft and yoke hooked together but it just might work. Any thoughts? Shawn Donkin '68 F100 2wd 351m/c6(soon?) Dave Resch wrote: > >From: Shawn Donkin > >Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd > > > >will the manifolds from my old 351c > >fit on the 351m? I think i heard that the heads are > >the same on 2V 351c's and 351m's.Is this true? > > Yo Shawn: > > Yes, the 351C 2V cylinder heads and the 351M cylinder heads are the same > design. Any exhaust manifold (or header) that bolts to one will bolt to > the other. > > Don't know if the 351C manifolds will give you any better clearance in your > truck, though, since the 351M is a wider engine. Good luck. > > Dave R. (M-block devotee) > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:42:50 -0500 From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut) Subject: FTE 61-79 - re: Dash Lights My 64 F500 has it Jon E. Purut http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/Chelley one 64 F500, one 77 F150 and a pair of 65 F100's ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:09:18 -0600 From: Shawn Donkin Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd P.S. I want to say a very sincere thank you to you and all that are helping me through my first engine swap. Next time i will plan ahead so i can have transportation while i'm doing it :^) Thank you again, Shawn Donkin Dave Resch wrote: > >From: Shawn Donkin > >Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd > > > >will the manifolds from my old 351c > >fit on the 351m? I think i heard that the heads are > >the same on 2V 351c's and 351m's.Is this true? > > Yo Shawn: > > Yes, the 351C 2V cylinder heads and the 351M cylinder heads are the same > design. Any exhaust manifold (or header) that bolts to one will bolt to > the other. > > Don't know if the 351C manifolds will give you any better clearance in your > truck, though, since the 351M is a wider engine. Good luck. > > Dave R. (M-block devotee) > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:18:18 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - rag joint the rag joint is the connection between the steering column shaft and the seering box shaft. This unit is located under the hood usually under the brake master cylinder. I consists of two T looking ends tha are connected to gether with some bolts and what looks like a flat donut looking piece of rubber cloth. The rag joint. Funny how they put your life in the hands of a little piece of cloth covered with rubber? - -----Original Message----- From: John LaGrone [SMTP:jlagrone ford-trucks.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 6:14 AM To: Ford Trucks 61-79 Subject: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - rag joint I am going to ask a dumb question. What is a rag joint? I always thought y'all (that's a legal word in Texas) were talking about the section where the pieces of tire are. - -John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:20:58 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) Re: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? You are exactly right but all this does affect the flow bench characteristics. Larger valves port matching all requires time which is money. Even after all the work these heads are not as efficient as other engine designs - -----Original Message----- From: luxjo thecore.com [SMTP:luxjo thecore.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 5:56 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: (Archive Copy) Re: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? Jim Pliss wrote: > > I had a 73 ford galaxie 500 with the 400M and tried this with a 4 barrel > intake and carb worked OK but was kind of expensive and did not run as well > as it sould for the money and wasted alot of fuel. ended up going back to > the 2 barrel the major problem with these motors are the heads flow about > as well as a porous brick. Head work would have made a lot of difference if > you want to spend the money. Of course a 460 would be better. > I don't know if I agre with that, especially after reading Hot rods article on their 400 buildup. They gasket matched heads and had a valve job done, but that is about it. I think the major issues to be addressed with the 351M/400 are the cam (and cam timing) and compression. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:49:22 -0500 From: forza4 juno.com (Patrick Kimbril) Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rareity of '66 w/ I-beam suspension A friend of ours has a '66 Ford pickup with 351ci, automatic tranny, and I-beam suspension. Hes been told this combination is rare, like only 90 ever made. So is this a really rare vehicle or what? Patrick ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:25:18 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rareity of '66 w/ I-beam suspension At 03:49 PM 11/18/98 -0500, you wrote: > >A friend of ours has a '66 Ford pickup with 351ci, automatic tranny, and >I-beam suspension. Hes been told this combination is rare, like only 90 >ever made. So is this a really rare vehicle or what? > >Patrick All 65+ Ford trucks came standard with I-beam suspension. Ken == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:36:43 -0800 From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rareity of '66 w/ I-beam suspension And the 351 was not offered in that truck. Maybe it's a 352? Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Payne > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 1:25 PM > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rareity of '66 w/ I-beam suspension > > At 03:49 PM 11/18/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > >A friend of ours has a '66 Ford pickup with 351ci, automatic tranny, and > >I-beam suspension. Hes been told this combination is rare, like only 90 > >ever made. So is this a really rare vehicle or what? > > > >Patrick > > All 65+ Ford trucks came standard with I-beam suspension. > > Ken > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:30:05 -0700 From: "Dave Resch" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - M block oil pump - WAS No spark >From: Pat Brown >Subject: FTE 61-79 - M block oil pump - WAS No spark > >'M' block devotees can jump in here anytime >now, but this appears to be a very common >problem with these engines. It comes up on this >list enough that even my old brain remembers >it:-). I also remember one of our active list >members just went through this, I just can't figure >out who. Yo Pat, et al: I wouldn't characterize oil pump failures as a "very common" problem in M-blocks. I have heard of a few M-block oil pump failures, but I don't think M-blocks experience this any more frequently than any other engine, IMHO. The only oil pump failures I have personal experience w/ were in a 351C and a 460, and in both cases, a Melling high volume oil pump failed. As I recall, Ox had a similar problem back in July this year (i.e., rapid failure of a high volume oil pump). That's probably what you remember from the list. That said, I would not recommend a high volume oil pump for a non-race application. I have been told by hi-po engine builders that the main purpose of a high volume oil pump is to provide enough oil volume for "loose" bearings (or race bearings w/ extra oil feed grooves). In an engine w/ standard bearing clearances, a high volume pump will produce higher than normal pressures (more volume forced into the same size hole = more pressure) and require more power to operate (which would actually reduce the engine's effective power output). If the relief valve does not function properly, the weak link in the oil pump drive system may give out, either the cam/distributor gear interface or the pump drive shaft. If the proper hardened pump drive shaft is used, the cam and distributor gears will give out, shutting down the engine before a catastrophic main bearing failure. If the pump shaft gives out, the engine will continue to run and you'd better hope you notice the pressure loss before you toast the engine. >Gary seems to want to blame it on deposits >coming off the pickup tube, but nobody has >mentioned that it is sealer from the factory. As for pipe sealants clogging and seizing the oil pump, that type of failure could happen in any engine. Every engine rebuilding book I have ever read cautions against using pipe sealant on both oil pickup tubes and on the oil pump-to-block gasket. Along with damaging the pump, loose chunks of sealant could block the pressure relief valve or be pushed up into the oil galleys and block a critical passage. Personally, I doubt that using a sealant was ever a factory practice. Sounds to me like something done by an inexperienced (or superstitious) mechanic. As for oil-borne residues... well, sh!t happens, but again, it could happen to any engine. That's one of the reasons that I am very picky about what I put in my crankcase. I have personally seen some pretty nasty putty-like sludge deposits left by popular oil treatment chemicals. >I've become so aware of it that I bought a new >pickup tube for my daughter's N*ss*n 280n ZX, >I'm in the middle of a total rebuild of IMHO, when rebuilding an engine, a new oil pump, pickup tube, and pump drive shaft are small investments in engine longevity. Even if the old pump tests good and the pickup tube looks immaculate, I would always replace the pump drive shaft. Of course, I would recommend testing any critical component even when purchased new. A free replacement for a defective oil pump is minor consolation when you have to change it out. Warranty limitations on consequential damages (like toasted crank bearings and journals) are even less gratifying when it's your engine that died. Dave R. (M-block devotee) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:26:00 -0500 From: Tony Marino Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering Shaft Solution- Answers and Prices Hey all! I hope I don't make this too long winded for ya! All of this talk about the rag joints, shafts, and universals got me thinkin' about my '78 F-150 4x4 and how sloppy the steering was in it. Recently I blew a rear U-joint in the driveshaft and was going to run down to Sam Winer Motors here in Akron, Ohio who do all of my Dana/Spicer/Rockwell/Eaton part needs. I brought along my extra steering shaft assy. with me to ask them about a new universal for it since mine was dangerously shot. When I brought it up to the counter (they recognise me there) the guy at the counter said "that's a nice lawnmower part you got there!" and smiled. I guess they aren't allowed for insurance reasons to fix steering shafts because of some safety issue. But we laughed a little bit and he told me that if we keep it in "reference" as a "lawn mower part" he could sell me the pieces I need to fix up the U-joint. (BTW- these people DO NOT sell lawnmower stuff for those of you who might need parts! (grin)) Anyway, he comes back with these parts- SP 10-4-431-SX Yoke, Fitting $18.58 SP 10-4-13 Yoke, Fitting $10.92 SP 5-170X Universal Kit $7.61 That's a new yoke for the steering shaft (with splines), new yoke for the DD shaft, and a greasable universal for the yokes. Not bad for under $40 bucks. -- I just got done installing them- took about 1.5 hours - here's what I had to do- Just removed the old shaft and took it to a chop saw and cut the old yoke off of the end of the shaft. The new yokes are longer, so the distance you lose doing this, you'll gain back with the yokes. (plenty of shaft still left to slide (unless you have a body lift)) The new yoke slid right over the shaft (can be welded for safety reasons) but has a bolt hole in the side so I stuck a worm gear in it to fasten it to the shaft and hold it tight. The universals press in just like any normal one (only retaining clips are on inside rather than outside) and then the new assy. was ready to put in. The splines on the steering column yoke lined up, and everything bolted together perfect. Not as nice as the shafts I was looking at on flaming rivers home page, but a heck of a lot cheaper!!! I have no affiliation with Sam Winer Motors, just good people who can help you out with darn near anything drivetrain wise (and sell stuff made in USA) so if you call to order these parts, don't say what they are for! (wink) Their phone number is (330)628-4881, ask for parts. If you call them, don't tell them what it's for, they may not like me the next time I go in! 8-) Hope the time to type this helped somebody out! Tony tony pscico.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/~tony At 11:31 PM 11/16/98 -0500, you wrote: >any body familiar with ford steering? the shaft that connects the >steering sector with the colum shaft, it has a bad u-joint. the ford >dealer only sells the whole shaft, and it's priced outrageously. >anybody have a better idea. any info would be helpful. thanks >bill clark > > >Hi Bill. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:42:28 -0700 From: "Dave Resch" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? >From: RKocsis627 aol.com >Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? > >Is it worth it to Change my 351M 2-V to an Edelbrock >4-V intake and carb? I'm lookin for a little more >get up and go. Does it make that much of a >difference or would I just be wasting my money? I >appreciate any opinions, thanks. Yo RKocsis627: It depends.... You need to give more details of what you have now and what you want. What type and year is your truck? How many miles on the engine? Have you done anything else to modify the engine? What kind of exhaust system do you have? Do you have a catalytic converter? Do you have to pass emissions tests? What kind of driving do you do? What kind of specific improvements are you looking for? In general, a well tuned 4V carb (and corresponding manifold) alone on a fresh 351M will provide an improvement, especially at higher revs (over 3K rpm). If you accompany the carb change w/ headers or a decent exhaust system, the improvement is more profound. If your engine is worn out and tired, a 4V carb won't be worthwhile. OTOH, there are several other improvements you can make for the same amount of money and they might produce as much (or more) improvement as a 4V carb on a stock engine. For example, changing the cam and getting a free flowing exhaust system will make a substantial improvement in performance, even w/ a stock carb. Just changing a worn out timing chain will improve the performance noticeably on an engine w/ a lot of miles. Dave R. (M-block devotee) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:20:50 PST From: "Joe Swinko" Subject: FTE 61-79 - new member/wiring Hello all. I am a new member and I own a 1966 custom cab F-100. The previous owner installed a 351W/FMX combo.I needed to get a steering column from a 74 or so Ford, to go with the auto trans. Anyways, my truck needs rewired. I was wondering what was the best aftermarket fuse block or harness would be the best choice for my truck. Please keep in mind I plan to make some improvements over the next few years (bigger engine ;^) power windows, sound system). Also, I need a wiring diagram for a 66 and/or the 1972 351W/FMX. Any help would certainly be appreciated. ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:30:02 -0800 From: Steve & Rockette Leitch Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rareity of '66 w/ I-beam suspension At 16:25 18/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >At 03:49 PM 11/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >> >>A friend of ours has a '66 Ford pickup with 351ci, automatic tranny, and >>I-beam suspension. Hes been told this combination is rare, like only 90 >>ever made. So is this a really rare vehicle or what? >> >>Patrick > >All 65+ Ford trucks came standard with I-beam suspension. > >Ken And it's a 352, not a 351. Steve & the Rockette == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:51:08 -0800 From: "jeffd" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - rag joint If you are serious Rag Joint: follow your steering column from the firewall to the steering gear. The outer tube of the column will end with the center section continuing to a circular flange. This flange will have 2 cutouts 180 degrees from each other and either 2 stud or 2 nuts. There will be a circular part that connects to this flange and to the shaft that comes up to meet it from the steering gear. This part is called the rag joint. If you examine it you will see a flexible material. It is used to dampen vibration in your steering system. - ---------- > From: John LaGrone > To: Ford Trucks 61-79 > Subject: FTE 61-79 - rag joint > Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 6:14 AM > > I am going to ask a dumb question. What is a rag joint? I always thought > y'all (that's a legal word in Texas) were talking about the section where > the pieces of tire are. > > > -John > > jlagrone ford-trucks.com > 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) > http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm > Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:33:36 EST From: RKocsis627 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? Hey Dave, thanks. I have a '77 2WD F150 Custom. It's got 76,000 miles on it, and what I'm really looking for is an improvement in the low-mid range. The truck's a daily driver, so that's its primary use. I don't have to pass an emissions test, and currently the truck is still bone stock and has no cats. I plan on putting a dual exhaust on, so what do you think should happen from there? Thanks again. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:47:08 -0800 From: "pat green" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? also try adding a set of 351c 2v heads that will take care of any flow problems pat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com > [mailto:owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Dave Resch > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 3:42 PM > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? > > > >From: RKocsis627 aol.com > >Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? > > > >Is it worth it to Change my 351M 2-V to an Edelbrock > >4-V intake and carb? I'm lookin for a little more > >get up and go. Does it make that much of a > >difference or would I just be wasting my money? I > >appreciate any opinions, thanks. > > Yo RKocsis627: > > It depends.... You need to give more details of what you have > now and what > you want. > > What type and year is your truck? How many miles on the engine? Have you > done anything else to modify the engine? What kind of exhaust system do > you have? Do you have a catalytic converter? Do you have to pass > emissions tests? What kind of driving do you do? What kind of specific > improvements are you looking for? > > In general, a well tuned 4V carb (and corresponding manifold) alone on a > fresh 351M will provide an improvement, especially at higher revs (over 3K > rpm). If you accompany the carb change w/ headers or a decent exhaust > system, the improvement is more profound. If your engine is worn out and > tired, a 4V carb won't be worthwhile. > > OTOH, there are several other improvements you can make for the > same amount > of money and they might produce as much (or more) improvement as a 4V carb > on a stock engine. For example, changing the cam and getting a free > flowing exhaust system will make a substantial improvement in performance, > even w/ a stock carb. Just changing a worn out timing chain will improve > the performance noticeably on an engine w/ a lot of miles. > > Dave R. (M-block devotee) > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 05:43:56 -0800 (PST) From: Arlene Mason Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4 wheel disc brakes My emergency brakes on the truck work GREAT, if you have it on you aren't going anywhere! Never mind the light. Now, on my '66 Mustang it E-brake has never worked as long as I have owned the car (nearly 11 years) it passes the inspection once in awhile, but only if the inspector is in a REAL good mood. - ---luxjo thecore.com wrote: > > John LaGrone wrote: > > had a hard time getting my 77 Eldo to pass safety inspection because they > > said the emergency brake didn't hold. > > Mine works awsome, but my emerg brake light is out, so I keep leaving it > on. The truck seems real sluggish and I realize DUH!!!, I'm driving > around with it on. I allready fried my first set of pads in less than a > 1000 miles. Maybe I'll wire an aftermarket oil pressure light right in > my face for the emerg nrake ;-) > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:38:10 -0800 (PST) From: TheFORDMAN webtv.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - new member/wiring joe, depending on what your after you can go to the library in the auto motive section and copy one there or you can go after market ( painless wiring through summit racing or direct to the manufacturer) its your choice ERIC p/s when i meant copy i meant copy of wiring diagram == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:47:47 -0600 From: juredd - Justin Reddell Subject: FTE 61-79 - restoring a 69 F-100 Needing to talk to someone about restoring a 69 model F-100. I have no idea of where to start. I am replacing the inner finders (that is if I can find some good ones), door and window seals, and putting a little less rusty bed back on. Other than that I don't know how to continue. Is there someone out there brave enough to give me a phone # that I could give you a yell and ask some questions? If not please give me some more ideas. Thanks, Justin == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:35:09 -0800 (PST) From: TheFORDMAN webtv.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - restoring a 69 F-100 hey justin my name is eric aka the fordman feel free to call me any time you want ive been working on fords for roughly 20years and have come across many ford problems so if you need some advice just call me at (503) 848-8186 Forever Fords Eric == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:27:15 -0500 (EST) From: otjohnson worldnet.att.net Subject: FTE 61-79 - Interesting item on eBay web site item#43240851: 1969 FORD TRUCK Shop MANUALS- 4 vol. LIKE NEW These 1969 Ford Truck Shop Manuals are for sale on EBay along with several other sets for various years. I have a set of these for my 71, and they are great. If anyone on the list in interested, go to www.ebay.com and run a search in misc. for "ford truck". Title of item: 1969 FORD TRUCK Shop MANUALS- 4 vol. LIKE NEW Seller: antiques56 aol.com Starts: 11/18/98 23:06:07 PST Ends: 11/25/98 23:06:07 PST Price: Currently $10.50 To bid the item, go to: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=43240851 Item Description: A 4 volume unused set of 1969 FORD TRUCK SHOP MANUALS... Printed by Ford Motor Company. These books contain diagrams and complete maintenance and repair information on all ford truck models (Bronco, club wagon, econoline, b-series, c-series, f-series, n-series,p-series, t-series, and w-series). Contains complete troubleshooting, maintenance, and repair for all aspects of the Ford Trucks of that year. VOLUME ONE covers vehicle identification, brakes, suspension, steering, wheels, tires, rear axle, drive shaft, clutch, manual transmissions, automatic transmissions. VOLUME TWO covers the engine, ignition system, fuel system, cooling system, exhaust system, and starting system. VOLUME THREE covers charging system, lights, instruments, convenience devices, ventilating, heating, accessories, body, doors, windows, trim, and seats. VOLUME FOUR covers maintenance. ALL FOUR VOLUMES FOR ONE BID... If you have a 69' ford truck -- you must have these books!!!As with all my sales there is NO RESERVE and SATISFACTION IS GUARANTEED!!! Buyer will pay $5.00 shipping. Thanks Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ebay.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:09:39 -0600 From: "Oscar Johnson" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Help! Driving home last night (71 F250 Ranger XLT CS 360 2V C6) my dash lights went out and the headlights were flickering accompanied by electrical relay sounding clicks/noises from the right side of my dash. The truck has the AC unit under the dash on right side. Since I have had the truck, I have noticed that I get a click from that location when I turn the headlights on. Any ideas? O.T. Johnson otjohnson worldnet.att.net Prattville, AL == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:18:16 -0600 (CST) From: bkirking bcm.tmc.edu Subject: FTE 61-79 - restoring a 69 F-100 juredd - Justin Reddell [juredd acxiom.com] wrote: >Needing to talk to someone about restoring a 69 model F-100. I have no idea >of where to start. I am replacing the inner finders (that is if I can find some >good ones), door and window seals, and putting a little less rusty bed back >on. Other than that I don't know how to continue. Is there someone out there >brave enough to give me a phone # that I could give you a yell and ask some >questions? If not please give me some more ideas. Justin, Congratulations on your new project. I want to encourage you not to use the phone, but this list, as often as possible for several reasons..... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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