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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, November 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 526 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: dana 44 & 60 installation set up tip-OOPS revised Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? FTE 61-79 - 4V 351C Manifold FTE 61-79 - Steering u-joints FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights FTE 61-79 - 351W and C4s FTE 61-79 - F-250 Emblem FTE 61-79 - mushy brakes RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Steering u-joints Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Body lift question RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights FTE 61-79 - 460 Transplant FTE 61-79 - Replacement Radius Arms For 79 Bronco! FTE 61-79 - COUPLING ASSEMBLY 79 F-250 4X4 RE: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights RE: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Body lift question RE: (Archive Copy) Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Radius Arms For 79 Bronco! FTE 61-79 - Back Glass for Grabs, mystery headlight/vacuum switch RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - COUPLING ASSEMBLY 79 F-250 4X4 Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: dana 44 & 60 installation set up tip-OOPS revised FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - 351c exh manifolds on a 351m engine? Was"79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust on a 68 F100 2wd" Re: FTE 61-79 - Back Glass for Grabs, mystery headlight/vacuum switch Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - 351W and C4s FTE 61-79 - M block oil pump - WAS No spark Re: FTE 61-79 - M block oil pump - WAS No spark FTE 61-79 - Cab mounts! Re: FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights FTE 61-79 - RE: Carter AFB carb Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Carter AFB carb FTE 61-79 - HELP! 69f100 4x4 steering box- none to be had!!! Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! 69f100 4x4 steering box- none to be had!!! Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - RE Radius Arms. Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Re: FTE 61-79 - CJ Heads Re: FTE 61-79 - 4V 351C Manifold Re: FTE 61-79 - Adding P/S to '68 F100 FTE 61-79 - 351 2-V to 4-V? FTE 61-79 - [Fwd: Truck Wanted] ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:45:14 -0500 From: luxjo thecore.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: dana 44 & 60 installation set up tip-OOPS revised hankg mtaonline.net wrote: > > With these numbers and the > proper chart you change the pinion depth shim stack located under the > inner pinion bearing cup. Dana axles have the pinion shims located under the bearing race? Dana really tried to go to extra lengths to make it impossible for a DIY to set up there diff's, Hunh? :-) > l rule is under 3.91 (3.73, 3.54 and smaller # use the same, and over >3.91 (4.09, 4.10 4.56) and I've heard there are two sets of 4:10 gears, one for each type carrier at the gear break. I thought 4:10 was the crossover. Does that mean there is no way I can use 4:10 gears with the detroits I have for 3.54's right now?? > If you want a locker for a non posi rear end I have had a good > experience with the Powertrax locker. most cases it cost around $300 > plus shipping and doesn't require the carrier to be removed from the > vehicle unless you have a two piece carrier. You can get the side drivers from a powertracks inside the open dif without taking it out. Are all dana opens like this? I installed one in a > c-clip rear axle and it took about 1 1/2 hours including replacing the > axle seals. dealer pricing on a posi carrier was $700 and then the shim > headache was some thing I didn't have to deal with. hank If you only replace the carrier, isn't there usually (not always) a pretty good chance you don't have to change shims at all, especially pinion shims, since you are not changing gears. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:48:44 -0500 From: luxjo thecore.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? Mr. Paul R. Boudreault wrote: > They make a better replacement shaft which gets rid of the Rag joint. (From > what I understand this is a weak point.) Would a 79 F-250 have had a rag joint? The truck I picked up had a shaft with univ at both ends. Is this an aftermarket steering shaft? OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:46:59 -0500 From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut) Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4V 351C Manifold It has been said that the stock 4V manifold off a 4V 351C will not work with 2V heads. While reading Pat Ganahl's book called Ford Performance I noticed his responce to this queston on page 85. To quote "If you have a two-barrel 351C with the stock heads still on it, you can pick up a quick and cheap 35 horsepower just by bolting on a stock four-barrel manifold-regardless of port mismatch-plus a 780 Holley carb." He goes on to tell what gaskets to use and so on. I personally would not do it and remember some on this list question some of this guys information. I have decided to go with the 2V manifold for now. Thanks guys for all your input. Jon E. Purut http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/Chelley one 64 F500, one 77 F150 and a pair of 65 F100's ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:57:10 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering u-joints B Clark writes: >>any body familiar with ford steering? the shaft that connects the steering sector with the colum shaft, it has a bad u-joint. the ford dealer only sells the whole shaft, and it's priced outrageously. anybody have a better idea. any info would be helpful. thanks bill clark I found some several years back in the local Farm supply dealer.. This guy is an independent and has all different sizes of u-joints for all different kinds of small to very large machinery. Several makes of very old tractors have sometimes two or three u-joints in their steering shafts. Good luck. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:03:31 -0600 From: Shawn Donkin Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust manifolds in a 68 F100 2wd Anyone know if this will fit? I will be removing the engine again to move the engine mount towers forward so my tranny and driveline will hookup and it would be easier removing them when the engine is out of the truck. If they dont fit, will the manifolds from my old 351c fit on the 351m? I think i heard that the heads are the same on 2V 351c's and 351m's.Is this true? Shawn Donkin '68 F100 2wd (351m/c6 conversion almost there!) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 06:14:03 -0800 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? The actual URL is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flaming-river.com - ---------- > From: Mr. Paul R. Boudreault > To: 'Ford CHAT' > Subject: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? > Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 8:31 PM > > > Flaming River at www.flamingriver.com > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 06:18:55 -0800 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? Borgeson is at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.borgeson.com - ---------- > From: Bill Beyer > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 6:14 AM > > The actual URL is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flaming-river.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 06:20:35 -0800 (PST) From: Arlene Mason Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights I have a problem with the dash lights on my '77 F100. It seems I have tried replacing everything, the bulbs, the fuses, etc. and still no dash lights. The only thing I got from the deal was a broken odometer. (that's another story). Has anyone else had this problem? How can I fix it?? Thanks, Arlene '77 F100 - 400/C6 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 06:30:27 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351W and C4s Hi all, Returning to the list after a year off doing things like working... (bummer).. man I remember when there was less that 300 people on one big list.. wow how it has grown... I have a '64 shortbox with a few mods (76 302/C4, 77 Volare front clip) and while it runs well, the 302 is tired and in need of rebuilding. A friend of mine has offered to give me (yes, give) a 1970 351W (30,000 miles since rebuild, rv cam, 10 overbore, edlebrock, etc).. for helping him do some work on his 77. Anyone know if I will have any problems with the '76 C4 fittin' up to the 70 351W? I dont want to switch to a C6 as this will entail shortin' the drive shaft and redoing the rear tranny mount.. plus I dont want the extra weight.. I recently rebuilt the C4, put a B&M shift kit in it and a B&M Z-Gate shifter on it, so I also dont want to lose all that work.. (not to mention the expense).. The truck is strickly street and will never be used for heavy hauling or towing.. and anyone know where I can get a '64 grill reasonable... painted or chrome.. I have a '63 grill (bright) that was in the truck when I bought it.. Bill in Texas '64 Shortbox '90 Harley Dresser _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:31:51 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-250 Emblem Just checking to see if anyone has a spare fender emblem that says "F-250"....its for a 76, about 3" long and 1-1/2" tall... Please send me a message....Thanks! Colorado Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:27:23 -0600 From: John LaGrone Subject: FTE 61-79 - mushy brakes Gary, I sympathize with you. One of the reasons I am so active in the brake discussions is that my son's 79 M*nt# C rl* also defies all reason when it comes to having decent brakes. They work, they stop the car, they're hard, but they have way too much pedal travel. Henry on the OTOH has a stuck proportioning valve but his brakes work most excellently. Go figure. - -John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:58:27 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Steering u-joints Azie, Yes I do have a solution there is a replacement ujoint and I will try to get you the part number tomorrow you should be able to get the brand or at least cross refernce it at you local auto parts store. ( Use a good one like NAPA for crossreference) Only cost me about 8 bucks plus my time. - -----Original Message----- From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com [SMTP:am14 daimlerchrysler.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 5:57 AM To: 61-79-list Ford-trucks.com Subject: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Steering u-joints B Clark writes: >>any body familiar with ford steering? the shaft that connects the steering sector with the colum shaft, it has a bad u-joint. the ford dealer only sells the whole shaft, and it's priced outrageously. anybody have a better idea. any info would be helpful. thanks bill clark I found some several years back in the local Farm supply dealer.. This guy is an independent and has all different sizes of u-joints for all different kinds of small to very large machinery. Several makes of very old tractors have sometimes two or three u-joints in their steering shafts. Good luck. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:03:19 -0600 From: Larry Schmiedekamp Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? OX I just pull a power steering gear box out of a 79 F250 to replace the one in my 74 F350 and it had the Rag joint setup. Larry PS These are 2wd don't know if a different set for 4wd. At 07:48 AM 1/17/98 -0500, you wrote: >Mr. Paul R. Boudreault wrote: > >> They make a better replacement shaft which gets rid of the Rag joint. (From >> what I understand this is a weak point.) > > Would a 79 F-250 have had a rag joint? The truck I picked up had a >shaft with univ at both ends. Is this an aftermarket steering shaft? > > OX >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:04:50 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights Arlene Try the light switch. It has a variable resistor in it to control the brightness of the dash lights. If this variable resistor is broken no power gets to the dash lights. Not sure of the wiring but a diagram of the wiring plus a volt meter will tell you if this is true. make sure there is input voltage at the switch. If all your other lights work than this should be the case. Now check your wiring diag on the light switch. Look for the wire that supplies the dash board lights and check the voltage at this terminal with the lights on. Now rotate the light switch knob left to right and back. If no voltage than replace the light switch. Let me know how it goes. - -----Original Message----- From: Arlene Mason [SMTP:arlenemason yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 6:21 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights Arlene I have a problem with the dash lights on my '77 F100. It seems I have tried replacing everything, the bulbs, the fuses, etc. and still no dash lights. The only thing I got from the deal was a broken odometer. (that's another story). Has anyone else had this problem? How can I fix it?? Thanks, Arlene '77 F100 - 400/C6 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:10:11 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Body lift question How big do you want to go. Seeing that this is a half ton truck and only 2 wheel drive what are you wnating to do and what size tires do you want to go to? I should be able to help you more. - -----Original Message----- From: RKocsis627 aol.com [SMTP:RKocsis627 aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 1:14 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Body lift question I have a '77 F150 Custom 2WD and would like to get more clearance for bigger tires. Is a 3" body lift a good idea or is there a better way to make more room? Any problems when doing one of these or are they pretty simple? What's the biggest tire and rim I could put on then? Thanks for the help. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:26:10 -0600 (CST) From: Jesus Cardoso Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights Howdy! Since we are talking about dask lights, does anyone know what year the variable resistors were installed in the operation of the dash lights? I am just trying to figure out if my '63 is suppose to have one. Thanks, chuy '63 F100 On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Jim Pliss wrote: > Arlene > Try the light switch. It has a variable resistor in it to control the > brightness of the dash lights. If this variable resistor is broken no power > gets to the dash lights. Not sure of the wiring but a diagram of the wiring == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:41:39 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 Transplant Matthew Schwartz writes: >>I am about to spend some money on a 1976 F250 "Explorer Package" Supercab 2WD. My question is can the motor mounts and accompaning 460 be transplanted into the 1976 frame? So long as both are 2wd - Yes. Be sure to mount the towers in the same holes as they are in in the '78. (I think there are two (2) different locations to mount them) Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:43:15 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Radius Arms For 79 Bronco! Hey Ox, You're right, I forgot about modifying the spring pads. I had to first weld up the old holes then re-drill the new ones. There were a few different pads available, some much thicker than the others. I think the Broncos had the thicker (better) ones. And yes, you're right, I did mean caster. I still went with the drop down brackets to maintain the level of the lower spring pads. Although the "C" bushing system keeps the axle correct with the lift, the lower pads would need a "wedge" below them to keep them level (front to back).... On my 69 F-100 4x4, I found that if I had only single shocks, the front end would "dip" quit a bit....the quad setup really made a difference...maybe the difference in weights between this year truck and the Bronco changes the ride???? Colorado Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:43:07 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - COUPLING ASSEMBLY 79 F-250 4X4 I've seen ads from I think two different companies for these in the latest issue of Four Wheeler magazine.... I have two trucks with this problem, (76 and 77-1/2 F-250 4x4's), so I'll be interested in what you find out. I'm hoping I can find that U-joint somewhere, maybe even a bearing supply house or something.... Let us know what you decide! Colorado Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:54:27 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights I know that the 73 and up do but am not sure about th 63. I would try to contact the ford dealer and see if they have any answers if not I would get a chiltons manual this usually has a pretty good breakdown on the electrical. Might point you in the right direction. - -----Original Message----- From: Jesus Cardoso [SMTP:cardoso ee.tamu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 7:26 AM To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com' Subject: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights Howdy! Since we are talking about dask lights, does anyone know what year the variable resistors were installed in the operation of the dash lights? I am just trying to figure out if my '63 is suppose to have one. Thanks, chuy '63 F100 On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Jim Pliss wrote: > Arlene > Try the light switch. It has a variable resistor in it to control the > brightness of the dash lights. If this variable resistor is broken no power > gets to the dash lights. Not sure of the wiring but a diagram of the wiring == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:01:08 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Body lift question remember that changing tire size also affects your final drive ratio. the bigger the tires the lower your final drive ratio. After saying that there are some things to consider. How much weight? How much towing? Street or offroad? Tires can come from 235 15r to 44 inches tall. I dont see the need for 44 inch tires ona two wheel drive. Again kind of goes back to what do you want to do with the truck. dailyu driver? towing? hauling and how much weight? I know this seems kind of silly to ask but these will help to determine a good tire combo that will work with what ever you are trying to do. Also do you know the rear Ratio? Let me know and I will try to help - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Pliss [SMTP:jpliss airolite.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 10:10 AM To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com' Subject: (Archive Copy) RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Body lift question How big do you want to go. Seeing that this is a half ton truck and only 2 wheel drive what are you wnating to do and what size tires do you want to go to? I should be able to help you more. - -----Original Message----- From: RKocsis627 aol.com [SMTP:RKocsis627 aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 1:14 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - Body lift question I have a '77 F150 Custom 2WD and would like to get more clearance for bigger tires. Is a 3" body lift a good idea or is there a better way to make more room? Any problems when doing one of these or are they pretty simple? What's the biggest tire and rim I could put on then? Thanks for the help. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:07:48 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? - -----Original Message----- From: Larry Schmiedekamp [SMTP:Larry.Schmiedekamp angelo.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 7:03 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: (Archive Copy) Re: FTE 61-79 - re Steering shaft solution!? Not sure if after market but I would Keep it sure wish I had one OX I just pull a power steering gear box out of a 79 F250 to replace the one in my 74 F350 and it had the Rag joint setup. Larry PS These are 2wd don't know if a different set for 4wd. At 07:48 AM 1/17/98 -0500, you wrote: >Mr. Paul R. Boudreault wrote: > >> They make a better replacement shaft which gets rid of the Rag joint. (From >> what I understand this is a weak point.) > > Would a 79 F-250 have had a rag joint? The truck I picked up had a >shaft with univ at both ends. Is this an aftermarket steering shaft? > > OX >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:14:00 -0500 From: luxjo thecore.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Radius Arms For 79 Bronco! BDIJXS aol.com wrote: > > Hey Ox, > There were a few different pads > available, some much thicker than the others. I think the Broncos had the > thicker (better) ones. I've never seen a thickness difference, but who knows ;-). I welded 1/8 inch plate to the bottom of mine to make sure they never bend again. I was also able to make sure the angle of lower spring pad made my springs perfectly straight side to side. It's tough to find spring pads in good shape these days. > And yes, you're right, I did mean caster. I still went with the drop down > brackets to maintain the level of the lower spring pads. Although the "C" > bushing system keeps the axle correct with the lift, the lower pads would need > a "wedge" below them to keep them level (front to back).... I plan on ditching the drop downs and having my stock drops modified with cirluar wedges welded on either side of radisu arm hole. I will also have to add a wedge in front of lower spring pads. I want to do this to get radius arms up out of the way and help pinion angle. They hang too low IMO. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:26:29 -0600 From: "J Elliott" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Back Glass for Grabs, mystery headlight/vacuum switch Upon measuring a back glass I picked up recently with some other stuff - it turns out it is not for 67-72, but "73 and up F5" according to box. I am not sure how far in years the 73 window fits. Measurement across the widest part is approx. 59-3/8. It is supposedly new, though I do see a slight bit of dust that looks like a gasket line around outside, but condition is excellent/new. Light Gray tint. On top of disappointing the venerable Stu due to wrong year, I have this extra glass on hands. Reasonable offers considered. I am in the Nashville area and hate to ship something like glass that large, but if anyone in the general vicinity is in need, plus I travel a fairly wide area for work periodically, getting into GA, AL, OH, KY and IN on a moderately regular basis. E-mail off list if interested. In addition - a question - in this I picked up a headlight switch from a '69, and it has some form of vacuum switch attached to the back of it, looking factory original. I have not checked my own '69 yet, but cannot imagine what a vacuum switch on the headlight switch would be for, any ideas? Jim E. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:18:23 -0800 From: Jim Pliss Subject: RE: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - COUPLING ASSEMBLY 79 F-250 4X4 I will get the part number that i got to replace my ujoint tomorrow. Will send it here tomorrow when I come in first thing. - -----Original Message----- From: BDIJXS aol.com [SMTP:BDIJXS aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 7:43 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: (Archive Copy) FTE 61-79 - COUPLING ASSEMBLY 79 F-250 4X4 I've seen ads from I think two different companies for these in the latest issue of Four Wheeler magazine.... I have two trucks with this problem, (76 and 77-1/2 F-250 4x4's), so I'll be interested in what you find out. I'm hoping I can find that U-joint somewhere, maybe even a bearing supply house or something.... Let us know what you decide! Colorado Jeff == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:50:41 -0600 From: "Michael R. Masse" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: dana 44 & 60 installation set up tip-OOPS revised >>> 01/17 6:45 AM >>> hankg mtaonline.net wrote: >>=20 >> With these numbers and the >> proper chart you change the pinion depth shim stack located under the >> inner pinion bearing cup. =20 > Dana axles have the pinion shims located under the bearing race? Dana >really tried to go to extra lengths to make it impossible for a DIY to >set up there diff's, Hunh? :-) The "hone an extra set of bearings for setup" method that someone just = posted worked great for when I did mine. >> l rule is under 3.91 (3.73, 3.54 and smaller # use the same, and over = >3.91 (4.09, 4.10 4.56) and > I've heard there are two sets of 4:10 gears, one for each type carrier >at the gear break. I thought 4:10 was the crossover. Does that mean >there is no way I can use 4:10 gears with the detroits I have for 3.54's >right now?? >> If you want a locker for a non posi rear end I have had a good >> experience with the Powertrax locker. most cases it cost around $300 >> plus shipping and doesn't require the carrier to be removed from the >> vehicle unless you have a two piece carrier.=20 > You can get the side drivers from a powertracks inside the open dif >without taking it out. Are all dana opens like this?=20 You can probably do it with 3.50's, but with 4.10's, the gear teeth get in = the way. =20 >> I installed one in a >> c-clip rear axle and it took about 1 1/2 hours including replacing the >> axle seals. dealer pricing on a posi carrier was $700 and then the = shim >> headache was some thing I didn't have to deal with. hank > If you only replace the carrier, isn't there usually (not always) a >pretty good chance you don't have to change shims at all, especially >pinion shims, since you are not changing gears. =20 > OX If you're only replacing the carrier and not the gears then you won't have = to mess with the pinion depth which is probably the most difficult part to = setup without speciallized tools. You'll only have to mess with carrier = bearing shims. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:03:47 -0500 (EST) From: Justin Farcas Subject: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Short, simple question: Could someone give me a rundown of the types of exhaust smoke, their color and such, and what they pertain to? i.e. - bluish smoke = burning oil. Thanks, Justin Farcas 79 Ford F150 4 x 4 460 -- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:54:03 EST From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types I'll give it a go: Bluish smoke is Burning oil, more exact is if you only see the smoke when your reving or under a load, its valve guides, if its always present, its rings. Black smoke is unburned fuel, either from a carb thats misudjusted, poor igniton, or a severely restricted air cleaner White smoke is water Vapor. Everybody has seen that on cold mornings, but if you see it in July when youve been drivng all day, you've definately lost a head gasket. Any other symptoms are welcome. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:37:45 -0700 From: "Andrew W. Ford - Speaking For Myself" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types JUMPINFORD aol.com wrote: > I'll give it a go: > > Bluish smoke is Burning oil, more exact is if you only see the smoke when your > reving or under a load, its valve guides, if its always present, its rings. Assuming that you're sure the blue smoke is coming from the gas - another case (don't even ask how I know! 8^( is when you've got so much blow-by that oil is being pushed out the dip-stick tube onto the headers. > Black smoke is unburned fuel, either from a carb thats misudjusted, poor > igniton, or a severely restricted air cleaner > White smoke is water Vapor. Everybody has seen that on cold mornings, but if > you see it in July when youve been drivng all day, you've definately lost a > head gasket. Not always. I think it's lean running that adds white smoke, too - though much less than a cracked head! BTW, I once had a VWB*g (air cooled - no water) which got real hot and was bellowing thick white smoke. I never figured out what it could have been as it stopped after cooling and I sold the POS shortly after. Any ideas? Regards, 78 F150 Ranger 4x4 Supercab / 351M C6 - -- Andrew Ford (602)581-4499 forda agcs.com Si vis pacem, parabellum. Above is *my* opinion, for theirs see below... AG Communication Systems - Expand the power of your network. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.agcs.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:12:29 -0500 (EST) From: Justin Farcas Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Ok, well then that answers my question. Which now is.... I have a rebuilt 460. When I rev it very lightly (between 500-1000rpms), I can sometimes see/smell a little "oil burning" smoke. I was thinking that it could just be the carburetor not adjusted right, or something with the fuel system, since (FOR GOD'S SAKE!) this is a newly rebuilt engine! I have about 2000 miles on the engine, and the problem does not seem to be getting any worse. Can you tell me what kind of possibilities I have of problems for this? Thanks a lot.... -JUSTIN > > JUMPINFORD aol.com wrote: > > > I'll give it a go: > > > > Bluish smoke is Burning oil, more exact is if you only see the smoke when your > > reving or under a load, its valve guides, if its always present, its rings. > > Assuming that you're sure the blue smoke is coming from the gas - another case > (don't even ask how I know! 8^( is when you've got so much blow-by that oil > is being pushed out the dip-stick tube onto the headers. > > > > Black smoke is unburned fuel, either from a carb thats misudjusted, poor > > igniton, or a severely restricted air cleaner > > > > > White smoke is water Vapor. Everybody has seen that on cold mornings, but if > > you see it in July when youve been drivng all day, you've definately lost a > > head gasket. > > Not always. I think it's lean running that adds white smoke, too - though much > less than a cracked head! > > BTW, I once had a VWB*g (air cooled - no water) which got real hot and was > bellowing thick white smoke. I never figured out what it could have been as > it stopped after cooling and I sold the POS shortly after. Any ideas? > > Regards, > 78 F150 Ranger 4x4 Supercab / 351M C6 > > -- > Andrew Ford (602)581-4499 > forda agcs.com Si vis pacem, parabellum. > Above is *my* opinion, for theirs see below... > AG Communication Systems - Expand the power of your network. > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.agcs.com > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > - -- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:15:34 -0500 (EST) From: Justin Farcas Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types Also... VW Bug...air cooled?!? That's something I NEVER knew! -Justin Farcas - -- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:30:51 -0600 From: Shawn Donkin Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351c exh manifolds on a 351m engine? Was"79 bronco 4wd 351m exhaust on a 68 F100 2wd" Ok, i know the bronco manifolds wont work, can anyone tell me if the 351c manifolds will fit on the 351m? Or, does _Anyone_ make a header application for this?Email me personally if need be, i dont wanna drive dad's ch*vy anomore! TIA, Shawn Donkin '68 F100 2wd (351m/c6 conversion almost there!) I wrote: > Anyone know if this will fit? I will be removing the engine again to > move the engine > mount towers forward so my tranny and driveline will hookup and it would > be easier removing > them when the engine is out of the truck. If they dont fit, will the > manifolds from my old 351c > fit on the 351m? I think i heard that the heads are the same on 2V > 351c's and 351m's.Is > this true? > > Shawn Donkin > '68 F100 2wd (351m/c6 conversion almost there!) > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:38:19 -0600 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Back Glass for Grabs, mystery headlight/vacuum switch >In addition - a question - in this I picked up a headlight switch from a >'69, and it has some form of vacuum switch attached to the back of it, >looking factory original. I have not checked my own '69 yet, but cannot >imagine what a vacuum switch on the headlight switch would be for, any >ideas? Ever seen the switch on a 69 Cougar ... lots of vacuum there for the headlight covers! Several other years had them too, but since you said 69 and we have one it was the first to pop into my head. Are you sure you got a switch for a truck ? I've never seen one with (factory) headlight covers ... maybe its a new option ;) Just my 2cents Bill Auto Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/cars.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Trucks/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Cars/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:42:04 -0600 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types At 01:15 PM 11/17/98 , you wrote: >Also... >VW Bug...air cooled?!? That's something I NEVER knew! Yup, not the new ones though ... not even Porsche is air cooled anymore, what's the world comin to!??!?!? Hey as for the smoke, check the pcv connections and be sure you're not leaking through that, I forgot to plug that in on my sister's 5.0 F250 and it smelled like you'd left an open bottle of oil sitting next to you. Also check the valve cover gaskets, if its been rebuilt then you may need to snug them up, this sounds dumb, but sometimes the fan will be enough to blow the smoke out the back, and then you wouldn't notice it at higher revs. Just my 2cents Bill Auto Links http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/cars.html '73 1/2 ton 4x4 Ford http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Trucks/truck.html '96 Mustang GT http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Cars/mustang.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:43:55 -0600 From: William S Hart Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351W and C4s >I have a '64 shortbox with a few mods (76 302/C4, 77 Volare front >clip) and while it runs well, the 302 is tired and in need of >rebuilding. A friend of mine has offered to give me (yes, give) a >1970 351W (30,000 miles since rebuild, rv cam, 10 overbore, edlebrock, >etc).. for helping him do some work on his 77. Anyone know if I will >have any problems with the '76 C4 fittin' up to the 70 351W? I dont >want to switch to a C6 as this will entail shortin' the drive shaft >and redoing the rear tranny mount.. plus I dont want the extra >weight.. I recently rebuilt the C4, put a B&M shift kit in it and a >B&M Z-Gate shifter on it, so I also dont want to lose all that work.. >(not to mention the expense).. >The truck is strickly street and will never be used for heavy hauling >or towing.. > Seems like as long as its a windsor you shouldn't have any problems with bolting it up. You may need to watch the accessories as the windsor is a little taller and wider, but the bolt patterns are the same ... your exhaust might need to stretch a little bit (wider), but that should even bolt up. But then again aren't theories fun ... Bill == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:16:49 -0800 (PST) From: Pat Brown Subject: FTE 61-79 - M block oil pump - WAS No spark 'M' block devotees can jump in here anytime now, but this appears to be a very common problem with these engines. It comes up on this list enough that even my old brain remembers it:-). I also remember one of our active list members just went through this, I just can't figure out who. Gary seems to want to blame it on deposits coming off the pickup tube, but nobody has mentioned that it is sealer from the factory. I've become so aware of it that I bought a new pickup tube for my daughter's N*ss*n 280n ZX, I'm in the middle of a total rebuild of (actually, I'm in the middle of a total mess with it) right now. Pat Brown Sebastopol, California Burt wrote: > Pat, > You say that the oil pumps on 400's have a habit of seizing up? I find this > interesting as I helped a friend just recently troubleshoot and repair a > seized oil pump on his 79 F-250 400. Yeah, it started out with a broken > distributor gear. I was able to determine the cause was excess pipe compound > on the threads of the sump pickup pipe where it joins the oil pump body. > After removing the rotor with a lot blows from a soft dead blow hammer I found > a small amount of foreign material jamming the surface of one of the lobes. > At first it appeared it was a very small black chunk of metal. I am one of > these people who has to know where is came from. So, after I drove it off the > surface with a hammer and screwdriver, thought I would keep it from getting > lost by putting it on strong magnet. I was taken back when it would not > stick, and then examined it much closer. I discovered it could be shaped with > enough force while using a screwdriver blade. Then I looked at the > disassembled pump and noted pipe compound forced out near the end of the pipe > inside the pump body, it had formed several little lumps. They had been there > since 1979, or so I think, I went on and attacked the lumps with a > screwdriver and sure enough they could still be formed and shaped. > Additionally, they could be broken free without a whole lot of effort. > Therefore I believe one of these broke off and caused the pump to seize. > Question, why would anyone much less Ford use something like pipe compound on > a lube oil system??? This is definitely not a good practice. If anyone has > more information on this I would like to know more. > Thanks Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:51:47 -0500 From: luxjo thecore.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - M block oil pump - WAS No spark Pat Brown wrote: > > 'M' block devotees can jump in here anytime now, but this appears to > be a very common problem with these engines. It comes up on this list > enough that even my old brain remembers it:-). I also remember one of > our active list members just went through this, I just can't figure > out who. Me, exact same thing, but my oil pump was fine (slightly low oil pressure) until I put in a new HV oil pump. 70 miles later, it crapped out. I don't know why it seized, cause I sent it back for a refund. I had to recam it as it broke the both the cam/distr gears. Gary seems to want to blame it on deposits coming off the > pickup tube, but nobody has mentioned that it is sealer from the factory. I don't recall any sealer (first replacement), but I did get a new pickup tube when I put the second new pump in. So far, so good. OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:55:56 -0600 From: jedolson juno.com (JOHN E DOLSON) Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cab mounts! Does anyone know where to get a new set of cab mounts (the metal parts) for a 78 F-250???? There is a company that sells original looking, weld on cab mounts for $22.28 each, they also sell th sheet metal bolt on type for $17.00 each. The company is called: Mill Supply, inc. 3241 superior Ave., Cleveland, OH 44114-4344 1800-888-5072 They also sell many other body parts for 60's-80's Ford trucks and many other vehicles. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:44:23 -0600 From: Floyd Terrell Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dash Lights Arlene Mason wrote: > I have a problem with the dash lights on my '77 F100. It seems I have > tried replacing everything, the bulbs, the fuses, etc. and still no > dash lights. The only thing I got from the deal was a broken odometer. > (that's another story). Has anyone else had this problem? How can I > fix it?? > > Thanks, > Arlene > '77 F100 - 400/C6 > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html I had a similar problem with my '65 F100. Turned out the studs securing the fuse block to the firewall had corroded and it was loosing ground. Removed, cleaned, and replaced the fuse block nd solved problem. Floyd Terrell == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:11:01 -0800 From: "Wiltzius, Tom" Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Carter AFB carb I bought a Carter AFB 625 for my 360 as the Autolite 4300 sucked! Question - do I use the timed vacuum or the other one( I think they called it manifold vacuum)? I honestly don't know the difference and the old carb is off of the manifold already or I could do the test they reccomended. any opinions or help will be appreciated! Tom Reno,NV == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:47:48 -0800 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Carter AFB carb Tom wrote: >I bought a Carter AFB 625 for my 360 as the Autolite 4300 sucked! >Question - do I use the timed vacuum or the other one( I think they called >it manifold vacuum)? >I honestly don't know the difference and the old carb is off of the manifold >already or I could do the test they reccomended. >any opinions or help will be appreciated! > >Tom >Reno,NV The difference is that the manifold vacuum port picks up its vacuum signal from underneath the throttle plate, so it has manifold vaccum all the time. The timed port picks up its signal from slightly above the throttle plate (when the throttle is closed), so it doesn't get a vacuum signal until the throttle plate is opened a little ways. Once the throttle is open a little ways they both see basically the same vacuum signal. I use an edelbrock 1405, which is essentially the same carb as the Carter AFB, and I prefer the timed vacuum. I had trouble keeping a nice idle when the engine was cold with the manifold vacuum. Since the engine idle speed changes with timing, and the timing changes with vacuum, and the vacuum varies with idle speed, it would idle too slow when the motor was cold and and the vacuum was low, then as the motor warmed up and wanted to idle a faster on it's own and it had higher vacuum, that would make the idle too fast when the engine was hot. I just couldn't tweak the choke and fast idle cam enough to make it idle right at all temperatures when I used the manifold vacuum port. I was able to get the hot/cold idle dialed in very nicely once I started using the timed vacuum port. Some folks prefer to use the manifold vacuum port and have good luck with it... The best way is to try 'em both and see how you like it. When running on manifold vacuum it will idle much faster than when on timed vacuum, so you'll have to readjust the idle speed and maybe the idle mixture screws when you switch between the two... Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. -- F. P. Jones == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:05:14 EST From: DUMPERDAN aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - HELP! 69f100 4x4 steering box- none to be had!!! box blew out, can't get any parts,none in junk yard, need to go elk hunting in less than 2 weeks. Is there any good retro fits or conversions available? desperate Dumper Dan == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:24:40 -0500 From: Dayton Boyd Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types What if there is bluish smoke just when you start the engine? Valve seals, beacuse I have that going on.. cannadnale '78 F250 4x4, 460 At 01:01 PM 11/17/98 -0500, you wrote: > >I'll give it a go: > >Bluish smoke is Burning oil, more exact is if you only see the smoke when your >reving or under a load, its valve guides, if its always present, its rings. > >Black smoke is unburned fuel, either from a carb thats misudjusted, poor >igniton, or a severely restricted air cleaner > >White smoke is water Vapor. Everybody has seen that on cold mornings, but if >you see it in July when youve been drivng all day, you've definately lost a >head gasket. > >Any other symptoms are welcome. > >Darrell Duggan >74 F-350 "Tweety" >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) From: TheFORDMAN webtv.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - HELP! 69f100 4x4 steering box- none to be had!!! let me introduce myself my name is eric aka the fordman. as for dan i beleive that depending on what type you have (power or strong arm steering ) from 67 to 79 will all interchange as per what ive come accross(USED TO WORK IN a ford only parts yard) by the way what part of the country do you live in maybe i can find one out here in the northwest (oregon) and possibly get you in contact with rght people but=A0let me know so i can check around! forever fords, ERIC == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:35:24 -0800 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types >What if there is bluish smoke just when you start the engine? Valve seals, >beacuse I have that going on.. > >cannadnale >'78 F250 4x4, 460 Blue smoke when you start it, and/or blue smoke on sudden acceleration after a long downhill coast in gear is quite often bad valve stem seals. The stock Ford seals aren't very long lasting, and any motor with high miles on the heads almost always wants a new set. Often, when you go to change them, you'll find some missing and the rest all dried out and crumbling to bits. I've changed several sets on older Ford engines, and it can make a big difference in smoke and oil consumption. They aren't that hard to change. 2-3 hours on a V-8 if you can come up with a tool to compress the spring/retainer and get the keepers out. Instructions on how to change the seals, and ideas on how to make a homemade spring compressor tool are in the FTE tech articles... Steve http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. -- F. P. Jones == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:06:50 -0800 From: Jason Eaton Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types This is usually a sign of worn valve guides. Dayton Boyd wrote: > > What if there is bluish smoke just when you start the engine? Valve seals, > beacuse I have that going on.. > > cannadnale > '78 F250 4x4, 460 > > At 01:01 PM 11/17/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I'll give it a go: > > > >Bluish smoke is Burning oil, more exact is if you only see the smoke when > your > >reving or under a load, its valve guides, if its always present, its rings. > > > >Black smoke is unburned fuel, either from a carb thats misudjusted, poor > >igniton, or a severely restricted air cleaner > > > >White smoke is water Vapor. Everybody has seen that on cold mornings, but if > >you see it in July when youve been drivng all day, you've definately lost a > >head gasket. > > > >Any other symptoms are welcome. > > > >Darrell Duggan > >74 F-350 "Tweety" > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html - -- Jason Eaton CyberSource Corporation Phone: (408)260-6044 Senior Software Engineer jeaton cybersource.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cybersource.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:36:00 -0800 From: Steve & Rockette Leitch Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types At 14:12 17/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >> > White smoke is water Vapor. Everybody has seen that on cold mornings, but if >> > you see it in July when youve been drivng all day, you've definately lost a >> > head gasket. >> >> Not always. I think it's lean running that adds white smoke, too - though much >> less than a cracked head! >> You're right, white smoke isn't always water vapor, it's also not always a cracked head, or blown head gasket either, it could be transmission fluid from the vacuum modulator........ which will create an enormous amount of white smoke when taking off from a light. Steve & the Rockette == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:43:57 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE Radius Arms. i have a few bronco parts for the 66-77 and the 78-79. i have a 79 door, spare tire carrier, grille (the plastic part) complete front dana 44, == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:43:25 EST From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - smoke types In a message dated 11/17/98 7:41:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, canzus seanet.com writes: vacuum modulator........ which will create an enormous amount of white smoke when taking off from a light. >> I totally forgot that one, shouldn't have but did. Had that prob on an old Galaxie. Duh stupid me. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:51:39 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - CJ Heads i am a firm believer in the pi heads casting # D2OE , i've been the cj route before, they are not for the street, unless you plan to turn it 4500 to 8000 rpm's. for a normal daily driver you will not have much low end torque. jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:04:27 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4V 351C Manifold several after market manufactures offer a 4v made for the smaller two barrel heads. i have two cast iron 4v intakes and one of the after markets. jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:26:49 -0800 From: "jeffd" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Adding P/S to '68 F100 Find a column and FOMOCO steering box out of 68-79? 2wd F-100,250,350 and the left engine horn (the sheetmetal part the motor mount connects to) should bolt right up. Make sure your rag joint is in good shape. NOTE: stay away from the Bendix steering gear, they don't last and they are hard to rebuild. I have a 390 in a F-250 camper special and this worked for me. - ---------- > From: Richard Cherico > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: FTE 61-79 - Adding P/S to '68 F100 > Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 2:54 AM > > Thanks to all who replied to my oil pressure question. Now, onto adding > power steering. My truck is a '68 F100 4x2 SWB with upper-body-building > manual steering which scares my fiancee out of driving it. Anyway, I seem > to remember the setup from my old '67 sported a gearbox from something like.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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