61-79-list-digest Monday, November 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 523



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - 68-69 Armrests
FTE 61-79 - Cab mounts!
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: BBS info
FTE 61-79 - 351C 4V Manifold
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351C 4V Manifold
Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch
Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Rocker Shafts Breaking
RE: FTE 61-79 - Water Pump, Thermostat, etc sealants?
RE: FTE 61-79 - seat
FTE 61-79 - 302 running really rough
Re: FTE 61-79 - seat
FTE 61-79 - MAN FINDS SHUNT WIRE
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351C 4V Manifold
FTE 61-79 - Tweety's first road trip
FTE 61-79 - Front Differential
FTE 61-79 - 351m/c6 is in! - Tailshaft too long!! Help!
FTE 61-79 - Axle ID code...
FTE 61-79 - Power Steering for '71 F100 4x4
FTE 61-79 - Over-charging?
FTE 61-79 - Replacement Radius Arms For 79 Bronco!
FTE 61-79 - New guy - 64 F100 flatbed
Re: FTE 61-79 - Front Differential
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351m/c6 is in! - Tailshaft too long!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Front Differential
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351C 4V Manifold
Re: FTE 61-79 - Axle ID code...
Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Radius Arms For 79 Bronco!
Re: FTE 61-79 - No spark
FTE 61-79 - Test only
FTE 61-79 - PNW Hood search
RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351m/c6 is in! - Tailshaft too long!!

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 07:24:31 -0500
From: shoman p3.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 68-69 Armrests

BDIJXS aol.com wrote:
>
> Made a little discovery the other day, it looks like the armrests out of the
> mid-to late-70's Ford vans are the same as in the late 60's pickups. Seems
> like I've seen aftermarket armrests for an arm and a leg....but there's still
> plenty of these vans around in the junkyards....
>
> Colorado Jeff
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did you install them????Because I found that out too from a 76 Van,
I mean they looked EXACT until i went to mount them and the one bolt
hole is not in the same place..Let me know what you find out
Joe
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:00:48 -0500
From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cab mounts!


Does anyone know where to get a new set of cab mounts (the metal parts) for
a
78 F-250????


Hi Jeff.

Well I know what you mean! I am doing mine too! The only source of them I
know is Auto Krafters. They are for the 73 79 F series and the 78 - 79
Broncos.

Webs site www.auto krafters. com

Catalog part number RH Front "K16-63-204" LH "K16-63-205" Cost $34.95
each plus shipping etc...

They also have the floor pans. (If you needed the cab mounts I figured....)

Hope this helps.

Later,

"Paul"


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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:12:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: BBS info

A few list members have asked why you must "register" before
using the web BBS. They correctly pointed out that most BBS
systems don't require this. The reason is simple: spam.

Systems that don't require registering allow automated email
address harvesters into them. Registering is a process that
an address harvester cannot do. Therefore, you can safely
use our BBS without fear that you'll end up on spam lists.

Now returning you to our regular program....

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:21:18 -0500
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351C 4V Manifold

I am at the last stages of my 351C rebuild and standing at the
crossroads. It's time to put on the intake and I have a major decision.
Do I put the stock cast iron 2V intake and use the autolite 2100 or buy
an aluminum 4V and run my 4100? My wife and I just bought 40 acres of
land so money is a little tight right now. Plus my wife will be the
primary driver of this truck so should I use the 2V to keep her out of
trouble? This engine is going in my 65 F100 SWB flair side. Decisions,
decisions.

Any one on the list have a used 4v 351C intake for sale out there?

Jon E. Purut
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/Chelley
one 64 F500, one 77 F150 and a pair of 65 F100's

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:35:59 EST
From: RKocsis627 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351C 4V Manifold

There's a guy out of Massachusetts that has 351C 4-V intakes that came out of
mustangs and he's pretty cheap. He's helped me alot and is honest. You can
give him a try. His name is Jim and his email is Boss351 aol.com
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:11:37 PST
From: "Randy Benart"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch

Hi,
Yes I can use it I have a 79 F350 that has a Aux. tank and no switch.

Randy



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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:11:38 PST
From: "Randy Benart"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch

Hi,
Yes I can use it I have a 79 F350 that has a Aux. tank and no switch.

Randy

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>Seems like I saw someone looking for a factory aux. fuel switch....I
pulled
>one out of an early 70's truck just before it was going to be
crushed....can
>anyone use it???? I don't need it...
>
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:21:09 EST
From: DUMPERDAN aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Rocker Shafts Breaking

have a 69 f100 4x4 manual steering box thats t/u.
anyone have one or know of a retro fit?
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:54:20 -0500
From: "Ken Schneider"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Water Pump, Thermostat, etc sealants?

Exactly, use a bit of Form-A-Gasket, works great!

Ken
68 F-100 360/C6

> Auto tranny pan gaskets - Too easy for a little piece of silicon to
> plug up the valve body (or, in the case of a C6, the governer)

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:54:23 -0500
From: "Ken Schneider"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - seat

I can get you (or anyone else) a red factory bench seat out of a 68/69 F-100
for $75 + shipping from the local boneyard.

Sorry, haven't seen any newer seats.

Ken
68 F-100 360/C6

> Hey guys/gals if any of you come across a 40/20/40 seat while searching
> the yards that came in the 94 to 97 ford trucks please E-Mail me where
> and how much.
> I have been searching for the last year and 1/2 with no results . I want
> to put it in my 70 F100 .prefer Red or Maroon but will consider Black or
> Dark Grey . Thanks


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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:00:40 PST
From: "WILLIAM WHITED"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 302 running really rough

I have a 302 in my 79 F150, it is running extremely rough, I thinkj the
timing is off. How can I change or check the timing? I know this is
propably simple, but I'm stuck right now without any manuals or anything
right now. I'm trying to get it running alot smoother. TIA

74 F100 RANGER SUPER CAB 390
79 F150 EXPLORER SUPER CAB 302
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"


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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:38:53 EST
From: Toydually aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - seat

Hi Ken,

Have you seen any factory bench seats from a 61-66?

Brian
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:26:00 -0500
From: "Jerry"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - MAN FINDS SHUNT WIRE

Dale - - -

Thanks for the location on the shunt wire. I was all set to start cutting
open the dash harness this morning and start searching........knowing full
well I had no idea what I would be looking for.
My gauge, which hasn't done more than a slight flutter on cold startup on
every fourth Tuesday of any non-leap year, is sadly in need of this mod.
I'll give a full report when its completed.

Jerry
1969 F350 Dually reefer 351W AOD PS PB PW
1970 F100 (ret)

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 11:10:12 -0800
From: Steve & Rockette Leitch
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351C 4V Manifold

At 08:21 15/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I am at the last stages of my 351C rebuild and standing at the
>crossroads. It's time to put on the intake and I have a major decision.
>Do I put the stock cast iron 2V intake and use the autolite 2100 or buy
>an aluminum 4V and run my 4100?

You'd be better off using the 2V to start, if you "must have" a 4V, get one
designed for the 2V heads, the 4V heads ports are huge, lazy flowing
at low rpm, and don't really wake up 'til 4-5000 rpm, where you'll rarely
be running in a streetable truck....

Steve & the Rockette




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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:49:29 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tweety's first road trip

Well Guys and Gals,

I finally got Tweety out on the highway. I went out over the weekend for a
quick huntin trip. Went up to Eagle Valley, which is about 4 hrs north of
Vegas. Truck ran great the whole way, only probs are I now know that I
probably have 4:11 gears rather than 3:73 cuz my speedo was 13 mph fast at 65.
(it was reading 78), and Its hard as as heck to turn the valve on the floor to
swith tanks when you don't have someone steering for you so you can open the
door and get a good grip on that thing. We got there at about 5 am, and went
straight for the rabbits. Truck performed well as usual, takin us to a great
rabbit field that probably should have been a 4x4 only road, but hey we made
it. Note to myself, get a locker! Had a good ole time up there. Only other
prob is my trucks unwillingness to start in the 18 degree temp, due to the
fact that my choke is not hooked up. Anyone out there have the tubes that go
from the choke housing to the intake manifold? I could use em really bad.
Alright I've yapped long enough, see ya on the roads.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:40:12 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Front Differential

Hey Scott,

I just went through my 44 and thought I would pass on what little I know. If
you have to get a new carrier, why not consider a limited slip unit? Might not
cost that much more that a stock one. Or, you should be able to find a stock
R/P at any junkyard for pretty cheap, but if you want new, I wouldn't blame
you.

I just happened to know a mechanic who was trained in putting diffs
together....it is really an art...and takes quite a bit of patience. The real
key is having the right tools like a bearing holder for a hydraulic press, a
hydraulic press (you'll probably have to take the bearings off a few times
until you get it right), air tools, etc. Unless you are pretty well equipped,
it might just be best to have somebody do it....sorry if this sounds negative,
but having gone through two Danas (front and rear), I was always really glad
that my friend was doing it and not me....

Let us know how it goes...

Colorado Jeff





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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:46:35 -0600
From: Shawn Donkin
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351m/c6 is in! - Tailshaft too long!! Help!

Well i just got done sitting the engine and tranny into my truck
and i noticed where the output shaft and transmission
mounts have ended up..just a tad to far out to connect to
the driveline and trans mount to crossmember. I hear transmission shops
shorten/lengthen them, and i'm curious if anyone has had this done
and how much it ran them. Or, is there a short driveline section
i can take from another vehicle? Also if i will have to drill new
crossmember
holes or is there a "swap mount" i can use.

Ugh, always something else :^(
Shawn Donkin
'68 F100 2wd 351m/c6

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:38:41 -0800 (PST)
From: "Daniel H. Jenkins"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Axle ID code...

OK guys, here's the ID tag from my Ford 9" rear end. I spent the
better part of my afternoon trying to decode the *&#% thing, but no
dice... :( Could somebody out there tell me about my axle?? I am mostly
interested in the gearing in this axle. Here's the numbers on the tag:

1FE AB 7FA
3L25 9 388D

Thanks for your help.

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Daniel H. Jenkins Food for thought: John Milton
djenkins honors.unr.edu wrote _Paradise_Lost_; When his
Honors Program wife died he wrote _Paradise_
University of Nevada, Reno _Regained_...

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:22:15 -0800 (PST)
From: m frank
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering for '71 F100 4x4

Is there anyone here in the Wichita area that has a power steering
unit to go in a '71 F100 4x4? What am I looking at as far as cost for
this and how big of a pain is it to convert the truck?




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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:02:38 EST
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Over-charging?

Speaking of charging circuits, my '66 F100 4x4 has a combination of two dash
boards and wire looms! I have idiot lights and gauges. My amp meter never
shows a discharge. It does however, show that it is charging, sometimes more
than at other times. Question: Could I be getting a feed-back through the
idiot light bulb filament and be getting a false reading? The gauge always
shows that it is charging. Will I cook the battery?
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:28:24 -0500
From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Radius Arms For 79 Bronco!

Hi all.

I need to find a source for a set of radius arms for the 79 Bronco. Mine
are shot.

Also I figure if there is a source for Extended Radius Arms I would use
those. ( Going with a 4 inch lift so these would help.)

Later all,

"Paul"


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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:49:24 PST
From: "Park Hunter"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - New guy - 64 F100 flatbed

I wasn't going to buy this truck... but when the seller cut the price
from $900 to $400, I couldn't walk away. I know I'll probably spend $600
more turning it into a truck worth $700 total, but this is fun, right?

So what I've got is the Goon -- a '64 F100 sold as a chassis-cab and
equipped with a heavy-duty stakebed made by Allied body in Indianapolis.
223 six cylinder, 4-speed, one big dent and lots of little rust. Color
was originally Rangoon Red (hence the nickname), now faded to a mottled
red/pink color. Ack.

The truck started and idled well when I bought it, but would barely pull
its own weight unless the choke is pulled waaayyyy out. Looking at the
leaking sieve of a carburetor, I'm guessing it's shot. Got a rebuilt
replacement through the local parts house, but haven't got it fully
installed yet. The original was a funky Ford carb; the new one a Holley.
Having to re-route a fuel line to make it work.

Looking forward to swapping lies and misinformation with a bunch of Ford
fanatics...

Park Hunter
Marshfield, Indiana
phunter_msdwc hotmail.com

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:57:38 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Front Differential

You also need a dial caliper guage, a big handfull of shims, and a good
micrometer. We do it at work, pretty big hassle..

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 06:47 PM 11/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hey Scott,
>
>I just went through my 44 and thought I would pass on what little I know. If
>you have to get a new carrier, why not consider a limited slip unit? Might
not
>cost that much more that a stock one. Or, you should be able to find a stock
>R/P at any junkyard for pretty cheap, but if you want new, I wouldn't blame
>you.
>
>I just happened to know a mechanic who was trained in putting diffs
>together....it is really an art...and takes quite a bit of patience. The real
>key is having the right tools like a bearing holder for a hydraulic press, a
>hydraulic press (you'll probably have to take the bearings off a few times
>until you get it right), air tools, etc. Unless you are pretty well equipped,
>it might just be best to have somebody do it....sorry if this sounds
negative,
>but having gone through two Danas (front and rear), I was always really glad
>that my friend was doing it and not me....
>
>Let us know how it goes...
>
>Colorado Jeff
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:58:57 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351m/c6 is in! - Tailshaft too long!!

I got my back driveshaft legthened by 2", it ran me $45.00, and they did an
excellent job..

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 06:53 PM 11/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Well i just got done sitting the engine and tranny into my truck
>and i noticed where the output shaft and transmission
>mounts have ended up..just a tad to far out to connect to
>the driveline and trans mount to crossmember. I hear transmission shops
>shorten/lengthen them, and i'm curious if anyone has had this done
>and how much it ran them. Or, is there a short driveline section
>i can take from another vehicle? Also if i will have to drill new
>crossmember
>holes or is there a "swap mount" i can use.
>
>Ugh, always something else :^(
>Shawn Donkin
>'68 F100 2wd 351m/c6
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:30:25 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Front Differential

the labor sounds pretty cheap, i've done them myself? i would rather pay some
one the 250.00

jeff grant
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:37:26 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351C 4V Manifold

i have a 4v aluminum intake for a 351-c, its for 2 barrel heads.
i want 125.00 for it.

jeff grant
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:00:04 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Axle ID code...

its a 3.25:1, the 3L25 means 325 ratio, the "L" means limited slip ( trak-lok)
does it have a "N" cast into the center section? it should be just above the
pinion.

jeff grant
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:08:20 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Radius Arms For 79 Bronco!

i have a set of radius arms for your bronco i'll take 100.00 for the pair.
extende arms
won't help any, you need dropped brackets.

jeff grant
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Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 01:39:36 -0700
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - No spark

Randy Benart wrote:
>
> Please can anyone help?
> I have a 79 F350,400, auto transmision, 4x4. I had the distibator gear
> break.

Oh-Ohhhhh. Sounds like the infamous 400 oil pump siezure. This comes
up here once every few months. Oil pump siezes, distributor gear breaks.
Check your oil pump!

Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:48:31 -0800
From: "Doug Neely"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Test only

Just a test to see if this goes through.

Cheers,
Doug

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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:30:10 -0800
From: "Doug Neely"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - PNW Hood search

Try this site,
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.autobodyonline.com/databases/partsfinder/mypartsshop.cfm

Cheers,
Doug

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 01:27:44 -0800
From: donkin earth.wnm.net
Subject: RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351m/c6 is in! - Tailshaft too long!!

Now that i think about it(at work), isn't there 2 sets of holes
for the engine mount towers?..i'm wondering if i can move the
towers towards front of the truck to get the transmission and

driveline to hook up. Will that work?
or will the fan be moved too close to the radiator?

Shawn Donkin
'68 F100 2wd 351m/c6 (long tailshaft)

Dayton Boyd Wrote on
Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:58:57 -0500
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I got my back driveshaft legthened by 2", it ran me $45.00, and

they did an
excellent job..

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 06:53 PM 11/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Well i just got done sitting the engine and tranny into my truck
>and i noticed where the output shaft and transmission....


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