61-79-list-digest Sunday, November 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 522



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - WHat tire will fit a 15x8 rim????
Re: FTE 61-79 - WHat tire will fit a 15x8 rim????
FTE 61-79 - Diesel Air Cleaner
FTE 61-79 - Front Differential
Re: FTE 61-79 - master cylinders
FTE 61-79 - FE Dist.
Re: FTE 61-79 - Water Pump, Thermosat, etc sealants?
FTE 61-79 - steering gear
FTE 61-79 - Re: Thanks James E; and Need Help... quick!!!
FTE 61-79 - SHUNT WIRE LOCATION
FTE 61-79 - 351M rebuild
FTE 61-79 - 460 Misc. Parts Needed
Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M rebuild
FTE 61-79 - No spark
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: New web BBS
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Rocker Shafts Breaking
FTE 61-79 - Re: WHat tire will fit a 15x8 rim????
FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch
FTE 61-79 - cab mounts
FTE 61-79 - 68-69 Armrests
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Password changing if you have an FTE email account
Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch
Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch
FTE 61-79 - Ploy Motor and Tranny mounts? where I can I get them? (Or can I?)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch
Re: FTE 61-79 - 302 Won't start(Clicking gone)
FTE 61-79 - Thanks - 390
RE: FTE 61-79 - No spark

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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:06:40 -0800
From: "jeffd"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - WHat tire will fit a 15x8 rim????

Easily. I have 33x12.50x16.5 All terrains now and will probaly go to
35x12.50x16.5 later

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> From: Joe&Jen DeLaurentis
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - WHat tire will fit a 15x8 rim????
> Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 4:11 AM
>
> What would be the biggest tire to fit a 15x8 rim???Can i fit 31x10's
> on them????thanks
> joe
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:07:54 -0800
From: "jeffd"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - WHat tire will fit a 15x8 rim????

Sorry left out the wheel size. 8.25x16.5

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> From: Joe&Jen DeLaurentis
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - WHat tire will fit a 15x8 rim????
> Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 4:11 AM
>
> What would be the biggest tire to fit a 15x8 rim???Can i fit 31x10's
> on them????thanks
> joe
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:39:34 -0800
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Diesel Air Cleaner

" Ooooh, that would be cool! Can you tell me the dimensions of the
filter element it accepts, and what the diameter of the housing is?
I might have to find one of those...
Thanks!"

My Dad has the set-up on his truck. The next time I'm over there I'll
measure
the housing and post it to the list.He has a 84 F-350 that we converted
from
a diesel to a 460.He ended up with the huge diesel radiator, air cleaner
and
all the extra sound insulation.Darn thing is as quiet as a Lincoln.

(hurry back Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --)
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:44:08 EST
From: Phazelag aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Front Differential

I have a Dana 44 Front Axle on a 3/4 ton truck. 4:10 gearing. The Diff needs a
new carrier, Ring and Pinion. The parts Are $385 and labor would be $250. I
would like to do the work myself but have been warned against it. I was
thinking about getting a do it yourself video for Differentials. Any
Suggestions Thanks Scott
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:47:52 -0800
From: Jeffrey.Carver Aerojet.com (CARVER, JEFFREY D)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - master cylinders

My '64 F100 CrewCab was a coachbuilt truck
(special order by a rich guy).
He wanted power brakes so he got 'em.
I recently had the master cylinder rebuilt,
and it turns out it was a Buick Electra unit.
Don't know about the MC, I assume it came
from the same source as a set.

I have an image of it installed if someone, wants to host it.

BTW, in case ya got excited, this is on a stock
'64 (sorta) with drum brakes front & rear, no discs.

I always have this problem with this truck,
I can't just ask for a part, I have to take it
with me so the parts place can identify
what it really is!

Still no answers on what sealant (if any) to use to
put the water pump, thermostat, etc. together with.
I know you folks have opinions and aren't shy!

Jeff
'64 F100 CrewCab with power brakes!
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Has anyone ever tried to bolt up a GM MC to their Ford? I'm not suggesting
it as a solution, but there seems to always be someone somewhere that has
tried just about everything once.

- - -John
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:50:38 -0800
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Dist.

"Now my real question that I need help with .... when I pulled the
distributor I heard that awful clank of the oil pump shaft dropping ...
but
looking down the hole,its still sitting in there, so through some
unknown
force it must've fallen straight back down. But I can't get my dist to
sit
back down! I had this problem last time I did the head gasket too."

If you are absolutely sure the oil pump drive is in the pump,push
straight down on the
dist.and turn the engine over slowly with a remote starter button.It
should fall right in.
I have done this many times on my own FEs
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Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 21:06:36 -0700
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Water Pump, Thermosat, etc sealants?

Last week(!), Jeff asked:

> Background:
> '64 F100 CrewCab, 292 V8 Auto trans
> Waterpump leaking.
>
> I've got the old water pump off the truck, but
> I had to remove the radiator to get the it off,
> and the rad needs to have a bracket brazed back on.
> Looks like it has been loose awhile.
>
> I went ahead and removed the theromostat housing
> to replace the Tstat while I'm there, just because.
>
> I have the paper gaskets for the thermostat housing,
> waterpump, and fitting on top of the Tstat housing.
>
> The fitting on top of the Tstat housing is a small two bolt
> flange with a 5/8" tube apparently press fit in place.
> The Tstat housing has a similar tube fit in place.
> I have new tubes to install in these locations.
> I'll have to push out the old tubes and install the new.
>
> I hadn't thought of it before (remember I'm new to
> working on this part of my truck), but do any of these
> need any sealant? If so, what kind is appropriate?
> What about the thermostat itself?

I use the green non-hardening permatex for freeze plugs, your tubes
sound similar (press-fit, metal-metal). Almost anywhere else I use
silicon sealer. The big exceptions for silicon are (well, my opinion)

Auto tranny pan gaskets - Too easy for a little piece of silicon to
plug up the valve body (or, in the case of a C6, the governer)

Oil pick-up, pump - Just use the paper gasket by itself, no need to
run silicon thru your oil pump!

Head gaskets - Nothing, Nothing, Nothing. Well, unless you have a
solid metal gasket. Then some folks like to use the copper coat
stuff. Some manufacturers (Fel-pro for one) add additional sealers
around problem areas for you on composite head gaskets.

> Please cc pmail, as I'm on digest and would like to know
> tonight before I start re-assembly tomorrow morning.

Well, is a week later ok?

> Should I install a radiator overflow tank for this engine?

Definately a worthy addition, I'm surprised after 34 years in Sacramento
you don't already have one :-)

Hey Jeff, you fell through the cracks! Shame on us FTE! Shame on
me for ignoring a fellow crew cab fan!

Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California


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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:06:51 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - steering gear

Larry, I'll try to make this make sense.

First off, I did this on a power steering box. I don't know if the manual
gear is different, but I'm betting not.

The shaft that goes into the pittman arm has splines on it, but on closer
observation you'll notice that it has four "flats" on it. When I did mine I
chiseled a notch into the pittman arm where it aligns with one of these
flat splines, and a corresponding mark on the shaft. Then, when I got the
gear out of the truck, I put the two gearboxes next to each other and,
looking at the pittman arm shaft, turned both clockwise as far as they
could go. Then I chiseled a mark on the new gear just like the old gear,
and aligned the mark with the corresponding one on the pittman arm.

So, say for example you are looking at them on the bench and you turn them
both clockwise till they stop. You may have the 4 flats at 10, 2, 4, and 8
o'clock. If the mark you chiseled on the flat spline of the old gear is at
2 o'clock, you just scribe a mark on the new gear at 2 o'clock. It's late,
and this may make no sense to anybody but me. If so, email me and I'll try
to do better.

Anyway, it worked for me. Unfortunately, NAPA sold me a gear that is
already leaking after only 6 months, so I'm hoping it works again.

Good Luck

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net

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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:13:36 -0600
From: "J Elliott"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Thanks James E; and Need Help... quick!!!

>.. Regarding the scored shaft, if I come
>accross this condition is there a fix or just put the new seal over it?
>Still am concerned about the worm gear being a mid point when installing
>so I will have the same steering ratio to the right as to the left.

On mine, it was a bit funky, but I had no spare at the time, so, I just put
the new seal on (there were a couple at different locations, the bottom was
where the scoring was bad) and 'went for broke'. I have had no leaks, but I
have heard it observed that this is symptomatic of these boxes and that it
may not be a problem with new seals UNLESS you get cute and swap out for a
later, high-pressure PS pump. That makes sense to me, so I scratched my
thinking about going that route and stuck with the existing pump (picked up
a spare along the way cheap, assuming it is good, and found that a
replacement for that one at the parts house is not bad, about $55, so what
they hey) Although, it occasionally crosses my mind that a higher pressure
pump would lower the steering effort a bit further.
Re the lock to lock and centering, I cannot remember how many turns it
is lock to lock, but I don't think it is 4 total. If you turn the input
shaft over by hand, just be gentle doing it so you don't "jam" the
recirculating balls at the end of travel and possibly bugger them up. Just
go from one end to the other, count the revs, and back up 1/2 the amount.
The sector can then be dropped in centered up on the section of gear showing
and you should be okay. After you get done cussing through the installation
of the box, you will probably have to recenter it all, then center the
wheels before connecting the pitman arm. On mine, I goofed somewhere, not on
center to lock being even, but had to pop the steering wheel and recenter it
on the column when all done.


On the Other Subject -
>Never heard of a 410. What truck did this come in?
>I believe they only came in Mercury's.

And, originally, in Edsels. Insert Twilight Zone music here.

Jim E.



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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:11:31 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - SHUNT WIRE LOCATION

>Does anyone know the location of the * shunt wire * .......the short
>piece of wire that is hidden probably inside the dash harness that makes
>your ammeter gauge work ? ? ?
>This is the same shunt wire that Steve was talking about a few digests
>ago.
>Perhaps someone knows the color of it too ? ? ?
>Jerry

jerry,
This is copied from the archives. If you want to follow the complete thread
search the archives for "ammeter" posts starting around 9/1/97. Tom
Hogan......if you're back online I think it's time to write that ammeter
tech article for the website!
dale c

> The shunt was located in the wiring harness that connects the
> alternator, voltage regulator and battery side of the starter solenoid.
> Near the starter solenoid the harness has three other connectors, one
> has 1 wire, one has 2 wires and one has 3 wires. The 3 wire connector
> has a black, a red and a yellow wire. The black wire is larger than the
> other 2. The yellow and the red wire connect to the ammeter in the
> dash. If you remove the harness and unwrap it there is a very large
> black wire that connects between the red and yellow wire. That is the
> shunt.
>


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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:43:24 -0700
From: mclough page.az.net (Michael Clough)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351M rebuild

Hello, I have a 1978 F100 2wd with a 351M and C6. I was given this
truck about 2 years ago and it was definitely in less than perfect
condition. Since, I towed a 24 foot travel trailer with all my
belongings about 1200 miles. Now it is really getting weak. I am going
to rebuild the engine this winter and also address some leaks on the
transmission. I was wondering if I could get some input about
rebuilding, etc. Should I try to find a 400 and rebuild that? I just
want to have a stock truck that will tow the occasional boat or at least
will pull my trailer up a hill. I also read something about restrictors
to put in the block to help increase oil pressure. Anyone know about
those. It has never had any oil pressure when warm. I have even run
straight 50w during the summer and it drops off the gauge when idling
and warmed up.
Thanks for your help, Mike Clough
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:34:37 -0500
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 Misc. Parts Needed

Anybody out there have a tired-old 460 in need of a rebuild that I can
pirate parts from? OR do you just happen to have some 460 parts that were
suppose to go in your Rustang that never made it because you bought a
shiney new Mustang? ANYWAY, I need 460 parts.....everything....head bolts,
automatic flywheel, oil pan (truck style), aluminum intake, your 17 year
old sister....wait....no, some 429CJ heads would be nice.....anyway you get
the point. Let me know what you have.

Thanks,
Dale Frenz
frenz.6 osu.edu


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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:09:56 PST
From: "Randy Benart"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 351M rebuild

Hi Mike,
I know your situation, I own a 79 F350 with a 400. I have always had
little oil pressure at idle when the eng. is hot. I spun a main bearing
so insted of rebilding it I started hanging aroung junk yards. I soon
found a 400 with no oil leaks and 20,000 miles. It runs great, it only
coust about one hundred dollers and still has low oil. I hope that
helps?

Randy


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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:18:51 PST
From: "Randy Benart"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - No spark

Please can anyone help?
I have a 79 F350,400, auto transmision, 4x4. I had the distibator gear
break. I bought a rebilt dis., new cap and rotor, and wires, when I
crank the eng over I get spark on number one at frist then nothing. I
have sence replaced the coil, ign. modual, and the ign. switch, and
still the same problem any segustion would be a help.

Randy

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:59:03 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: New web BBS

Ford Truck Enthusiasts has added an additional service. We now
have a web based BBS message center. Check it out!

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:32:00 -0800
From: "Dave & Debby Anderson"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Rocker Shafts Breaking

>Hi Guys,
>I am a new subscriber and really enjoy reading the info that I see. I have
a
>problem that has been plagueing me here. I have an 66 F-100 with a 390. My
>friend and I have reciently pulled the engine and replaced the cam with an
>Edelbrock Performer Plus cam. The performance increase is just what I was
>looking for but now I am constantly breaking rocker shafts on the number 1
>cylinder. This just happened again as I came home for lunch today. Also
>bending rods in the process, but only on number 1 cylinder. Any ideas?
Thanks
>for any help.
>
>Dennis Nissen
>66 F-100, 390 ci, 3 spd.



Dennis - I've fallen way behind in reading e-mail so I don't know if someone
else has already responded yet or not. Hope this isn't redundant.

Sounds like you're running out of valvetrain clearance in at least the #1
cylinder. I've seen this happen on a 460 when the factory spring retainers
were used with an aftermarket cam. The factory retainers are fairly thick
and they were bottoming out on the valve guide at max lift. The cam pushes
on the lifter which pushes on the pushrod which pushes on the rocker arm
which has no place to go so something gives. In the 460 only the last 10
thou. of cam lift was a problem; the truck seemed to run fine with no bad
noises but would occasionally eat rocker arms.

I wouldn't guess this should be happening with the specs of the Performer
cam you've got but it might be worth taking a look at. Coil bind on the
spring would do the same thing but I'd guess you're hitting retainers and
guides before binding the springs.

Dave

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:04:32 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: WHat tire will fit a 15x8 rim????

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Joe&Jen DeLaurentis wrote:
>
> What would be the biggest tire to fit a 15x8 rim???Can i fit 31x10's
> on them????thanks

I had 33x12.5 on mine for a while. They were fine.

My next truck is hopefully going to have 35x12.5 BFGs on 15x8s interim
until I can get the 1 ton axles and 8 hole wheels. Then I will go to
16.5x9.75 wheels.

Birken
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:02:55 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch

Seems like I saw someone looking for a factory aux. fuel switch....I pulled
one out of an early 70's truck just before it was going to be crushed....can
anyone use it???? I don't need it...

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:03:01 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - cab mounts

Does anyone know where to get a new set of cab mounts (the metal parts) for a
78 F-250????

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:02:49 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 68-69 Armrests

Made a little discovery the other day, it looks like the armrests out of the
mid-to late-70's Ford vans are the same as in the late 60's pickups. Seems
like I've seen aftermarket armrests for an arm and a leg....but there's still
plenty of these vans around in the junkyards....

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:05:51 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Password changing if you have an FTE email account

For those of you who purchased or where given a FTE email account
(yourname ford-trucks.com), we have added the ability to change
your email account password.

The server now supports "poppass" service, the Eudora change
password server. Using the poppass service, users of the POP server
can automatically change their POP passwords from inside their
Eudora mail clients or other mail clients that support the Eudora
password changing mechanism.

Simply select the "Change Password" option from the menu of your
compliant mail client to access the poppassd feature.

Ken Payne
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:36:22 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch

I need one, and have been looking for a little while. Is it the one that
is on the left side of the heater control panel. or under the dash?

thanx,
cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460


At 08:05 PM 11/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Seems like I saw someone looking for a factory aux. fuel switch....I pulled
>one out of an early 70's truck just before it was going to be crushed....can
>anyone use it???? I don't need it...
>
>Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:36:52 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch

Oh yea, what year was the truck?

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 08:05 PM 11/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Seems like I saw someone looking for a factory aux. fuel switch....I pulled
>one out of an early 70's truck just before it was going to be crushed....can
>anyone use it???? I don't need it...
>
>Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:42:47 -0500
From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ploy Motor and Tranny mounts? where I can I get them? (Or can I?)

Hi all!

I was wondering if anyone knows of a source for poly engine and tranny
mounts for my 315M (79 Bronco) with T18 and NP205 (part time case).

If ya know of a source let me know.

Thanks very much

Later,

"Paul"
(By the way Energy Suspension don't got em!)


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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:13:08 -0600
From: "Larry Brown"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch

If you still have it, I was looking for one today at the wrecking yard.
What would you want for it and shipping to Louisiana.
Larry

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From: BDIJXS aol.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 7:15 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Aux. Fuel Switch


>Seems like I saw someone looking for a factory aux. fuel switch....I pulled
>one out of an early 70's truck just before it was going to be
crushed....can
>anyone use it???? I don't need it...
>
>Colorado Jeff
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:12:40 PST
From: "WILLIAM WHITED"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 302 Won't start(Clicking gone)

Thanks to everyone who gave advice with my problem. It was just the
battery. She's running now, but extremely rough. And I was really
kidding about the finger in the spark plug wire. I really did enjoy the
responses to it. Thanks

74 F100 RANGER SUPER CAB 390
79 F150 EXPLORER SUPER CAB 302
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"

Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:16:56 -0600
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 302 Won't start(Clicking gone)
Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com

William

Check how many amps your starter is pulling. I had a 63 f100 doing this.

Replaced battery and regulator and still would crank and try to fire but

wouldn't start and battery would run down.

The starter was pulling to many amps making the coil weak.

You where joking about the finger in spark plug test? RIGHT

At 05:10 AM 10/31/98 PST, you wrote:
thanks to everybody that offered help with my clicking 302. It was a
almost dead battery. I tried to jump it, I can get it to turn over but
right before she fires up it is like the starter locks up on me and
stops it. I haven't replaced the battery yet, because it takes awhile
to get them here, also I'm heading stateside Tues and wanted to get her
fired up and get any parts that I need to get while I am there.
It is a 79 and has the Spark Modulator on the driver's side, the
seleniod and a what looks like a tin box with Soild State Electronics on
it with some wiring in and out on the Passenger side and what I think is
the ignition coil(yellow clyinder thingy with one big wire leading to
the dist cab and 2 little wires on each side). I haven't done the
finger in the spark plug wire yet to see if it is getting fire, can't
find somebody to turn her over this early in the morning, but will do it
soon. I just think that she may be getting fire because she about goes
and the starter seems to stop it. Thanks in advance for any help.

74 F100 RANGER SUPER CAB 390
79 F150 EXPLORER SUPER CAB 302
"IT DON'T GTMO BETTER THEN THIS, SEMPER FI"

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 23:07:43 -0600
From: juredd - Justin Reddell
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Thanks - 390

> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:14:11 -0600
> From: juredd - Justin Reddell
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 390 motors
>
> I have a 69 Ford F-100 truck with a 360 motor. I am looking for a 390 motor to replace it with. I found a couple and the people that have them but they don't seem to know if they are really a 390 or 360 motor. They are basing there knowledge on what the manifolds looks like and hay its got a 4 barrel intake so it's got to be a 390 because 360's didn't come out with 4 barrel intakes. Can someone tell me if there is anyway to tell the difference between the two motors without tarring it down? Also, what year model did Ford stop making 390 motors. One more thing, Can you tell the difference between a HP 390 and stock 390?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Justin Reddell
> North Little Rock, AR
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> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:33:45 -0600
> From: William S Hart
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390/410 help and such ...
>
> At 02:14 PM 11/5/98 , you wrote:
> >I have a 69 Ford F-100 truck with a 360 motor. I am looking for a 390 motor
> >to replace it with. I found a couple and the people that have them but they
> >don't seem to know if they are really a 390 or 360 motor. They are basing
> >there knowledge on what the manifolds looks like and hay its got a 4 barrel
> >intake so it's got to be a 390 because 360's didn't come out with 4 barrel
> >intakes. Can someone tell me if there is anyway to tell the difference
> >between the two motors without tarring it down? Also, what year model did
>
> Can't help you with most of this ... I also have a 360 and am looking to
> upgrade. I found a running one (burning oil though) for $150, and I'm
> thinkin of building it to a 410 or 390, anyone help me out with what parts
> I need for that ? They're all the same bore, and the local parts shop said
> a 410 and 390 listed the same pistons ... true ? false ? anyone ?
>
>
>
> >Ford stop making 390 motors. One more thing, Can you tell the difference
> >between a HP 390 and stock 390?
> >
> >
>
> Seems like I looked it up for my truck (74 running gear) and the difference
> in HP between the 360 and 390 was like 10 or 15 hp, stock to stock. The
> real feel though would be the torque, and from what I've heard its quite a
> bit different.
>
>
> Just my 2cents
>
> Bill
>
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Thanks for all the help with the 390 questions. I am quite new at this motor stuff and I hope to gain a lot more knowledge from this list. Again, thanks for all the advise.

Justin
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:06:18 -0500
From: "Kenny Realph"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - No spark

check to make sure your condenser is not grounding.

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