61-79-list-digest Wednesday, October 28 1998 Volume 02 : Number 501



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - split vote opinion
Re: FTE 61-79 - split vote opinion
FTE 61-79 - 351C Remorse
FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - split vote opinion
FTE 61-79 - Half scale Instrumentation
FTE 61-79 - C6 AOD
FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE
FTE 61-79 - 302 transplant
FTE 61-79 - 351C Remorse...Non-FTE Content
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
FTE 61-79 - 77 F250
Re: FTE 61-79 - split vote opinion, Sheeeeeesh!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
FTE 61-79 - '67 A/C conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE
FTE 61-79 - Exhaust manifold delema...
FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Can U Help Me!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:34:44 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - split vote opinion

Ken Payne wrote:

> I have slowly learned as a member of the list that just because something
> doesn't seem
> to apply directly to my truck, the content is most often helpful.

I agree completely. Don't split!!! I have a 5 day average of 26
E-mails a day. So if you split your looking at saving maybe 13 E-mails
(guessing) a day. If you read every last word on 13 E-mails (a big IF),
your still probably talking 10 minutes a day max.


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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:48:48 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - split vote opinion

>
> I agree completely. Don't split!!! I have a 5 day average of 26
>E-mails a day. So if you split your looking at saving maybe 13 E-mails
>(guessing) a day. If you read every last word on 13 E-mails (a big IF),
>your still probably talking 10 minutes a day max.
>

There's nothing to stop you from subscribing to more than one
list. Every list we've had gets nearly double the traffic as
it gets colder so list traffic is going to go up. One of the
reasons I've increased the digest max size from 42k to 64k was
to decrease the amount of email going through the system (about
50,000 per day). We started with one list, can you imagine the
number of emails you'd get per day if we still had one list with
all 3200 members (its about 150-200 per day)?

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:12:33 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (Bill and Kim Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351C Remorse

Thanks for the info.

They had a closed chamber like a 4bbl head, and 2bbl ports. About that
same period ('79) I pulled the heads on a '70 Falcon that had a 351C
4bbl (black on black with dog dish hubcaps, a real factory sleeper, let
me tell you) and remember similarity of the chambers. Of course back
then I wasn't concerned with casting numbers so I couldn't tell you for
sure whether they were original, but I have no reason to doubt that they
were. I've always wondered about those heads, since I've read that
2bbls were all open chambered. Could they have been a pre-runner of the
Aussie?

I wish I had them back along with the '70 GT Ranchero, and I really wish
I had the '70 Falcon. When my buddy and I got it that Falcon loped like
a worn out dump truck around town, sounded awful and had to have "pink"
premium to even be able to shut it off and expect it to start. It acted
like it was really sick, smoked when you first started it.
When I pulled the heads I found huge valves and sewer pipe ports. It
also had solid lifters (surprise, surprise) The smoking was bad guides,
which I had fixed. I rebuilt the 780 Holley and put a good tune on it
that made it almost civilized, but it still loped and it wanted premium
and no substitutes. Then I got a chance, after I was satisfied that it
would hold together, to let it rip. I would have sworn it was a
big-block after 3000 rpms. and it wound up freely to a little over
7000. It seemed to love running up there and suffered no ill effects,
it even kept the plugs clean if you did it every few days. It got good
traction since it would hardly spin the tires unless you brake torqued
it pretty bard (broke a motor-mount for my efforts) but once under way.
Maaaan!

It's really sad that in '70 Ford finally built what I always wanted, a
real bread and butter factory small-block hot rod, but they only did it
for a year or two AFAIK. Sadder is that I let it get away, and saw the
next owner total it out. The engine went on to run in a circle-track
car. A black '70 Falcon 2dr sedan with a 351C 4V motor? BTW, the vin
matched the engine I remember that. Geeez, what you could find at a
dealers auction back then .... kick me!..just kick me!

> According to the information I have been able to find on the Aussie
> Cleveland heads, the first ones went into production in 1972. That would
> seem to preclude them as original equipment from the factory in 1970.
> Could it be that the heads you looked at had the deck surfaces shaved? Or
> could it be that some previous owner switched the original heads w/
> something else?

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:12:29 -0500
From: William King
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

Hmmmmm......
Is the 4 inch lift a body lift or a suspension lift? If it's a
suspension lift, you might have trouble getting the anti-sway bar
mid-links onto the frame. I could see you making 4 inch drop-down
brackets (to lower the frame mounting point, and thus keep the
proper anti-sway bar geometry). I don't see a problem with
a body lift (since the relationship between the frame and suspension
should remain the same, right?).
Being a 2 wheel drive guy these days, I have no experience w/
a sway bar on a lifted 4x4. Does anybody else?

Ohio Bill

>How do you all think that anti-sway bars would work on a Lifted F250 4x4?
>(4 inch lift), ive heard that they do great, but I want some info first.
>
>cannandale
>'78 F250 4x4, 460

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:14:23 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - split vote opinion

Ken Payne wrote:
>
> >
> > I agree completely. Don't split!!! I have a 5 day average of 26
> >E-mails a day. So if you split your looking at saving maybe 13 E-mails
> >(guessing) a day. If you read every last word on 13 E-mails (a big IF),
> >your still probably talking 10 minutes a day max.
> >
>
> There's nothing to stop you from subscribing to more than one
> list. Every list we've had gets nearly double the traffic as
> it gets colder so list traffic is going to go up. One of the
> reasons I've increased the digest max size from 42k to 64k was
> to decrease the amount of email going through the system (about
> 50,000 per day). We started with one list, can you imagine the
> number of emails you'd get per day if we still had one list with
> all 3200 members (its about 150-200 per day)?
>

I probably would not feel comfortable sending every single message
about my 78 to a 61-XX list. If I didn't though, I would be missing out
on a lot of insight from the guys/gals with older trucks. This and the
Big Bronco list are more like big families than "cold" e-mail lists.
Being on 2 lists that are split is just not gonna be the same. I would
then have to explain/forward an opinion from someone on the older list
to someone on the newer list, just so the guy on the newer list could
see what someone else said. Then the guy on the older list would not see
the guys reply from the newer list and not be able to comment on the
"rebuttle". Maybe if I just joined or it had been that way since day
one, I wouldn't care. Where would the split be again?

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:51:15 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Half scale Instrumentation

Dan Ledford writes: >>I have a '70 f100 and the instrument gauges are
giving me fits. They only read half way on the scale i.e., half full tank
of gas, half way on the temp gauge, middle of the oil pressure (when it
registers; sometimes it's zero) I have tested the instrument voltage
regulator - it's OK; I tested each gauge with high and low resistors - they
check OK. The ground wire is firmly attached to the chassis. Anybody have
any ideas what to do next?


Find a friend with a similar make/model truck and talk him into letting you
try his Regulator in your instrument cluster. I'll venture to guess that
even though you checked it out, it is still not right. If you can't find a
friend with a similar vehicle, then go to the parts house and buy a new
one. They can't be that expensive, and if all the gauges check out, it is
the only other culprit that is common to all of them.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:07:06 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - C6 AOD

Jerry writes: >> I could also reuse the tranny mount on the AOD I put in.
(C-6 w/OD)

I sure would be interested in one of these myself... Where'd you get
it???

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:20:36 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE

I must replace the exhaust manifold gaskets and one manifold on my 1968
with 360 FE engine. I know these engines are bad about breaking off
exhaust bolts in the head. Can anyone offer advice as to how best to
prevent this from happening? I am looking for any tips you can offer to
get these bolts, which I am pretty sure have not been out since the Ford
boys put them in at the factory, out of the head in one piece. TIA.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:28:17 -0500
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 302 transplant

Kenny Realph writes: >>So today I called around for prices on the 2 major
parts. OH MY GOSH!!! for the engine / tranny total price: from $1300-2000!
Can this be? I live in Columbus OH. Are prices about the same elsewhere? In
the write up he quotes $400 engine and $200 tranny.

I would think the prices quoted you are with some sort of running
guarantee. What you probably want is "core" prices. "Core" means no
guarantee on anything except the block/heads not to be cracked and the case
on the transmission not to be cracked. Core prices around this area are
usually $100/$150 for 302's and $100/$150 for the AOD. Then you have to
build them and replace any damaged parts. Your risk. I have extremely
good luck with "cores". I have had to discard a few, but not very often.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:33:44 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (Bill and Kim Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351C Remorse...Non-FTE Content

Sorry about the non-FTE content, I meant to send this to Dave as a
private message.

> Thanks for the info.
>
> They had a closed chamber like a 4bbl head, and 2bbl ports. About that
> same period ('79) I pulled the heads on a '70 Falcon that had a 351C
> 4bbl (black on black with dog dish hubcaps, a real factory sleeper, let
> me tell you) and remember similarity of the chambers. Of course back
> then I wasn't concerned with casting numbers so I couldn't tell you for
> sure whether they were original, but I have no reason to doubt that they
> were. I've always wondered about those heads, since I've read that
> 2bbls were all open chambered. Could they have been a pre-runner of the
> Aussie?

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:20:00 -0600
From: Doug_Brodie oxy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

I found a good news group for 4X4 folks at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=xover&group=off-road.ford
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:49:06 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE

At 10:20 AM 10/27/98 , you wrote:
>I must replace the exhaust manifold gaskets and one manifold on my 1968
>with 360 FE engine. I know these engines are bad about breaking off
>exhaust bolts in the head. Can anyone offer advice as to how best to
>prevent this from happening? I am looking for any tips you can offer to
>get these bolts, which I am pretty sure have not been out since the Ford
>boys put them in at the factory, out of the head in one piece. TIA.

I would suggest soaking them at least overnight with your favorite
penetrating oil. In addition a 6 point socket is definitely in order,
along with a lot of patience and strength. If you pull smooth and even
then things will go better, "popping" the bolt loose in any way will risk
fracture and breakage. Seems like I broke two of them off when I was
pulling mine off the first time (those were headers that had only been on a
couple of years too).

Now that I think about it, did these come with exhaust gaskets from the
factory ? I always thought they were put together without the gasket ...
*shrug* doesn't matter, if you need the gaskets you need them.


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:20:00 -0600
From: Doug_Brodie oxy.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

I found a good news group for 4X4 folks at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.off -road. com /cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=xover&group=off-road.ford
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:22:06 -0500 (EST)
From: FORD-TRUCK-70 webtv.net (RANDY D)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 77 F250

Well guys i just bought a 77 f250 4x4 all original . Everything work
great on this truck . My question is i have heard alot of people talk
about the steering box being bad on these trucks . Is this true ? What
should i look for ? Signs of going bad ?
What other steering boxes will fit ? Off what year trucks ? Also it has
33x12.5016,5 on it . What is the bigest tire size i can put on it
without putting a lift kit on it . Thanks for any help

Randy
1970 F100 2WD
1978 F150 2WD
1977 F250 4WD

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:08:13 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - split vote opinion, Sheeeeeesh!

From: luxjo thecore.com
Date sent: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:14:23 -0500
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - split vote opinion

> Being on 2 lists that are split is just not gonna be the same. I would
> then have to explain/forward an opinion from someone on the older list to
> someone on the newer list, just so the guy on the newer list could see
> what someone else said. Then the guy on the older list would not see the
> guys reply

OK, OK, OK!!! Enough already! Sheeeeeeesh! I'm the one that started all
this and all because I wasn't really paying attention. The fact is, the truck (61-
79) list isn't all that much mail so my suggestion was IN ERROR! :-(

It's all those guys on the bronco list that are cluttering up my mail box. I'm
going to suggest to Jason that we ought to have a 78/79 list and a 80 and up
list and a "Big Brother" list and "Emissions" list and EFI list and a Jerry
list..........well, maybe not a Jerry list but..................:-)

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:20:29 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE

Date sent: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:49:06 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE

> then things will go better, "popping" the bolt loose in any way will risk
> fracture and breakage. Seems like I broke two of them off when I was
> pulling mine off the first time (those were headers that had only been on

I've had good luck with impact wrenches but on this job I'd turn the power
down to start because a good 1/2" drive will break 3/8" bolts under full
power. Make sure to get the socket fully on the head and hold it very square
so it doesn't strip.

If it looks hopeless to you after a few attempts, get as many out as will come
easily and grind the heads off the rest so there will be a lug sticking out to
grip with vise grips once the manifold is removed. I've done this on other
projects were I absolutely couldn't take the chance of breaking the bolt flush
and having to risk damage when trying to drill it out.

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:51:41 -0500
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

> >How do you all think that anti-sway bars would work on a Lifted F250 4x4?
> >(4 inch lift), ive heard that they do great, but I want some info first.
> >
> >cannandale
> >'78 F250 4x4, 460
>

Depends on how stiff your susp/shocks are. I have a 78 Bronc with 6"
susp lift. I put front and rear sway bars in for the NJ tilt test. My
new superlfit shocks were so stiff, I did not notice much difference in
handling when I removed both sway bars (I 4 whel, so no sway bars for me
;-)). if your susp/shocks are close to stock in stiffness, the bars
should help a great deal. As for sway bar end link drops. I cut my drops
and welded in longer rods to make up the difference. Most 4" lifts get
just squeak by with the stock sway bar drops, but sway bar orientation
is definately not stock. Doesn't seem to affect sway bar effectiveness
though

OX
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:01:34 -0600
From: "Brett"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

Seeing as we have all this talk about sway bars, I happen to have some stock
sway bars laying around off my 76 F250 if anyone is interested in them.

Brett
76 F250 460 c6 38's



>> >How do you all think that anti-sway bars would work on a Lifted F250
4x4?
>> >(4 inch lift), ive heard that they do great, but I want some info first.
>> >
>> >cannandale
>> >'78 F250 4x4, 460
>>


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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:58:37 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

At 02:01 PM 10/27/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Seeing as we have all this talk about sway bars, I happen to have some stock
>sway bars laying around off my 76 F250 if anyone is interested in them.
>
>Brett
>76 F250 460 c6 38's

Were are you located?

Ken

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:05:18 -0800
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '67 A/C conversion

Hello,
This is my first post, so I hope I'm doing it right.

We have a '67 F100 that we would like to add A/C to. We have been looking
in the wrecking yards, but can only find a couple '67s, and none of those
have A/C. Found a nearly complete system in a '68, but the control panel is
different. Our '67 has 3 push-pull cables for the heat and the '68 has a
control panel that will require cutting the dash, which we don't want to do.
Was the '67 available with A/C originally? Does someone make a kit that
looks OE? What about the rubber floor mat, does anyone repro it? Thanks
for any advice or suggestions.

Rich Southerland

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:36:29 -0600
From: "Brett"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

> At 02:01 PM 10/27/98 -0600, you wrote:
> >Seeing as we have all this talk about sway bars, I happen to have some
stock
> >sway bars laying around off my 76 F250 if anyone is interested in them.
> >
> >Brett
> >76 F250 460 c6 38's
>
> Were are you located?
>
> Ken

Minneapolis

Brett
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:45:18 EST
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE

Two bits of advice. First off, spray them liberally with penetrating oil.
Let em sit over night if they are really bad. Secondly, all the cycles of
heating and cooling can cause the bolt heads to shrink a bit. Sometimes a
metric socket fits better. I believe its 14 mm but I'm not sure. Good luck
with the project.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:00:28 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

Its a suspension lift, I know that you can put blocks where it mounts to
the frame to keep it right. Had a friend do that on his Chebby (POS)... :)

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 10:18 AM 10/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hmmmmm......
>Is the 4 inch lift a body lift or a suspension lift? If it's a
>suspension lift, you might have trouble getting the anti-sway bar
>mid-links onto the frame. I could see you making 4 inch drop-down
>brackets (to lower the frame mounting point, and thus keep the
>proper anti-sway bar geometry). I don't see a problem with
>a body lift (since the relationship between the frame and suspension
>should remain the same, right?).
>Being a 2 wheel drive guy these days, I have no experience w/
>a sway bar on a lifted 4x4. Does anybody else?
>
>Ohio Bill
>
>>How do you all think that anti-sway bars would work on a Lifted F250 4x4?
>>(4 inch lift), ive heard that they do great, but I want some info first.
>>
>>cannandale
>>'78 F250 4x4, 460
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:10:11 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Sway Bars

Its pretty stiff, stiff springs and Rancho shocks. I off-road alot, and
never thought about what they would do out in the woods, I think i'll stay
away from 'em. I would rather have off-road abality than road handleing.. :)

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 02:56 PM 10/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> >How do you all think that anti-sway bars would work on a Lifted F250 4x4?
>> >(4 inch lift), ive heard that they do great, but I want some info first.
>> >
>> >cannandale
>> >'78 F250 4x4, 460
>>
>
> Depends on how stiff your susp/shocks are. I have a 78 Bronc with 6"
>susp lift. I put front and rear sway bars in for the NJ tilt test. My
>new superlfit shocks were so stiff, I did not notice much difference in
>handling when I removed both sway bars (I 4 whel, so no sway bars for me
>;-)). if your susp/shocks are close to stock in stiffness, the bars
>should help a great deal. As for sway bar end link drops. I cut my drops
>and welded in longer rods to make up the difference. Most 4" lifts get
>just squeak by with the stock sway bar drops, but sway bar orientation
>is definately not stock. Doesn't seem to affect sway bar effectiveness
>though
>
> OX
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:13:13 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust Manifold Removal on FE

14mm is pratically the exact same as 9/16, just a tiny bit smaller. If
they havent shrunk/rusted away a little bit, than a 14 will do ok. On
mine, I started stripping it with a 14, so i went to a 13mm, it was a tight
fit, so I had to tap it on with a hammer, they popped right out...

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460

At 06:57 PM 10/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Two bits of advice. First off, spray them liberally with penetrating oil.
>Let em sit over night if they are really bad. Secondly, all the cycles of
>heating and cooling can cause the bolt heads to shrink a bit. Sometimes a
>metric socket fits better. I believe its 14 mm but I'm not sure. Good luck
>with the project.
>
>Darrell Duggan
>74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:28:27 -0500
From: Jeff
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust manifold delema...

I humbly look to the wisdom of all those in the list to help me...

I need both exhaust and intake manifolds for my '65 240C.I.D.
and have become confused. Some say that I can use manifolds
from '61 through '73, others have said that ONLY '65-'66 manifolds
will bolt-up. HELP!!! Who's right??? What do I look for???
Thanks to all.

Jeff in Md.

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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:21:17 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Can U Help Me!

Forwarded For: Susan Kerr
Please send replies to bkerr cabler.cableregina.com, not to the list.

Dear (person who gets this letter),

Ok, I know this is going to sound stupid if you have no idea what I'm
talking about. Please bear
with me. On CMT, they mentioned a contest that Ford is putting on. I
think you write different lyrics to Alan Jackson's song, and if yours
gets picked you win something. Well, seeing how you guys are Ford
fanatics, not that I'm not, I was wondering if you happened to know
something about it. Where you send the lyrics, what you win, if its
even still on. Now, I don't know if I sent this to the right spot, if
not please forwarded to someone who might know.
I've already tried to contact CMT, and they are no help AT ALL. Not
that I hold that against them. Ok, anyway, I would really appreciate
your help, if you know anything.

Thanx a bunch,

Yours Truly,

Becky


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