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61-79-list-digest Tuesday, October 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 483



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Flywheel interchange
FTE 61-79 - power steering
Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 Engine Question
FTE 61-79 - Cure for carb backfire
Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust
FTE 61-79 - 240 > 351C transfer
FTE 61-79 - Mr. Fomoco
Re: FTE 61-79 - Mr. Fomoco
FTE 61-79 - Re: Exhaust
FTE 61-79 - Late Stuff
FTE 61-79 - Wiring help with '70 Econoline 300?
Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering
FTE 61-79 - FUEL FILTERS?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Always right????
Re: FTE 61-79 - BAAAD Backfire during hard acceleration
FTE 61-79 - JCW Replacement Doors/Fenders?
FTE 61-79 - Test valves with Compression test?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re - Starter Problems.
FTE 61-79 - vin# door tags
FTE 61-79 - Carter fixes
Re: FTE 61-79 - vin# door tags
FTE 61-79 - Re: Tweety Flies!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Will '85/'86 F100 parts fit '71 F100?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re - Starter Problems.
FTE 61-79 - Serpenine Belts/
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Tweety Flies!
FTE 61-79 - 65 SWB
FTE 61-79 - 2wd lift kits?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Tweety Flies!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Tweety Flies!

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:26:14 -0400
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Flywheel interchange

Speaking of flywheels. Can I use a 302 11" flywheel on a 351C. The reason
I am asking is that I have a 351C flywheel that is balanced to my '72
351HO. I do not want to use it on the '74 351C 2V that I am building. I
have a 302 flywheel laying around the shop and would like to have it
balanced to match the '74 351C flexplate. I placed both flywheels (the
351 and 302) side by side and on top of each other to see what the
differences are and could not find any.

The casting numbers are:
C5AE-6380-E 351C
C5AE-E 302

Any Thoughts
Jon E. Purut
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:42:02 -0500
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - power steering

Well, actually it looked like an oil well, I had to replace the power
steering pump yesterday. The puddle was bigger than the truck and SWMBO was
not pleased to say the least. I bought the pump at HiLo, which is the same
as O'Rielly, for $59.99 plus tax with an additional $7.00 core charge. The
switch was easy except for the pulley. Unless you own the special puller,
let someone else take the pulley off for you. Trust me on this one. I owe a
big thank you everyone who has discussed power steering, particularly how
to bleed the air out of the system.

While working on the PS, I discovered that one of my air conditioner
brackets broke. The broken bracket is the one that has the belt idler
pulley attached to it. I'm glad the summer is practically gone.


- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6, no more evidnece of the crash
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
1988 Towncar 5.0 EFI E4OD
1979 MC under restoration (my son loves old cars, too!!!)

Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:35:17 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 Engine Question

At 03:39 PM 10/10/98 , you wrote:
>Heard of a 71 F-100 in my neck of the woods at a decent price (i.e. 302
>engine is junk). Small blocks are easy to come by but what concerns me
>is that it is a 302 (auto). I didn't think they even had 289s in that
>vintage.
>
>Anyone know what engine(s) were available for that year? I don't want to
>travel a couple of hours to look at something that somebody has cobbled
>up.
>


Well my grandfather has a 70 with a 302 and a 3 on the tree. The 302 came
out sometime between 67 and 68, that was pretty much the end of the 289,
just as the 289 between 64 and 65 was pretty much the end of the 260.


Just my 2cents

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:46:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: bkirking bcm.tmc.edu
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cure for carb backfire

Thanks to all those who responded to help fix my problem.
I was having real bad backfiring through the carb and the problem was....
incorrect timing. I didn't remove the vac advance when I timed it.

The engine is now running much better, Except (of course) that now I get intermitten backfiring through the
exuast. It seems pretty familiar to some of the recent posts about backfiring when letting off the accelerator.
Anyway, I thought, Hey this is a problem that needs to be fixed, but I can at least drive to work now.
He He He, on the way in to work this morning I changed lanes to exit, downshifted and BOOM! Followed by
lots of exhaust noise. The engine continued to run fine, so I kept going thinking that I had just trashed my
rebuild. After getting to work, I looked underneath and and the muffler was blown wide open along its
seam.

Looked kinda like those biscuits in the can after you peel of the label and it pops open. Of course I didn't
have biscuit oozing outta the muffler but it wouldn't of suprised me if I did. Aye Yie Yie!!!!


Bryan Kirking
66 Step Side
352 4 speed
Houston, Texas


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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:49:51 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Exhaust

At 09:03 PM 10/11/98 , you wrote:
>
>
>I have a 78 F250 Supercab from Texas, it has dual exhaust with glasspacks
and then
>approx 4' tubes which seem to be randomly crimped. The sound is really
great,
>anyone have any idea what the crimped tubes are?
>

Could they be the DynoMax race turbos ? Can't remember exactly what
they're called, but seems like they advertised more power than straight
pipes. "Power Chambers" maybe ???
Race Magnums ?


*shrug* I can picture it, but the name is escaping me .... maybe this'll
help someone else ...

Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:02:05 -0400
From: "Kenny Realph"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 240 > 351C transfer

Well I read my message from yesterday and I can tell you right now I sounded
like a dope. But I would like any info I could get on what might be involved
in changing to a 351C and if it would be feasible to do so. I'm not even
sure what all is on this 351 i.e. carb and various accessories. Is the 351C
a big block? or is that the Windsor? is its gas mileage good or should I say
better than mine (10-13MPG). Any info would be better than what I have now.
Thanks.



66 California F100 2401v

Kenny Realph
Service Engineer
Jobin Yvon, Emission
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:29:26 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Mr. Fomoco

Hey Jeff,

Well, I'm pretty sure the 428's came in Cougars, Mustangs, and maybe the
Torino's at that time......hope you can find it the part number. Again, its:
C7AZ 16228-A, a driver's side "428" emblem. I'm wondering if anyone has any
Mustang restorer's catalogs....aftermarket units might be available there....

There used to be a "Parts Finder" guy who called himself "Mr. Fomoco" on the
web...I wonder if there are any similar people doing this now???

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:53:15 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Mr. Fomoco

>Well, I'm pretty sure the 428's came in Cougars, Mustangs, and maybe the
>Torino's at that time......hope you can find it the part number. Again, its:
>C7AZ 16228-A, a driver's side "428" emblem. I'm wondering if anyone has any
>Mustang restorer's catalogs....aftermarket units might be available there....
>
>There used to be a "Parts Finder" guy who called himself "Mr. Fomoco" on the
>web...I wonder if there are any similar people doing this now???
>

You might check AutoKrafters, or just pick up a Mustang Mag. down at the
local gas station/grocery store. There are lots of repro's of 428
emblem's. The 428's came in lotso stuff too, Cougar's, Mustang's,
Torino/Fairlane's, Ranchero's (seen one of these ... nice!), I think even
the full size cars came with them, though not in CJ form, there was even a
Police Interceptor version (67 Shelby's)

Hope this helps, if you don't mind a repro, it should be easy to come by.

B
Just my 2cents

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:54:40 -0500
From: Rick Sullivan
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Exhaust

>I have a 78 F250 Supercab from Texas, it has dual exhaust with
>glasspacks and then approx 4' tubes which seem to be randomly crimped.

"Randomly crimped" is not really a good description. Rather the entire length is
covered with oblong indentations which are at a 45 degree angle to the tube.
Rick

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:02:50 -0600
From: "Richard Currit"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Late Stuff

William asks:
> I have been using my 71 f250 to drive my friend around while we try to
> figure out what's wrong with his 95 jeep wrangler (some on topic subject
> matter ;)) I figure i should go to the source of all gearhead
> knowledge--this list!!
> it seems to have a possible timing problem- totally lacks power over
> 2500-300 rpm in all gears. i have narrowed it to this beacuse i
> have already replaced cap, rotor, wires plugs and
> coil (all were on the way out), and cleaned the throttle body several
> times with carb cleaner and put fuel injector cleaner in and checked the
> fule filter

I am not sure if this still works on the '95's or not, but it should since =
Jeeps are now a MoPar product. Turn the ignition switch like this: =
within 5 seconds. Look at your check engine light, it =
should start flashing. For example: pause
flash> long pause etc. This would be a code of 23. I believe a code of =
55 is end codes (but could be wrong, I've never actually owned anything =
new enought to have this option). Check it out and see if it works. You =
can send the codes to me (I'm in digest mode so you might just want to =
respond directly, especially since this isn't really Ford related). And I =
can post them to the MoPar list and get them decoded for you.

High Plains Richard (who is a Ford and MoPar fan)
'72 F-100
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:15:22 -0700
From: "Matt Tobin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Wiring help with '70 Econoline 300?

I have two service manual for this vehicle, but neither has a wiring
diagram. Can anyone help me identify the wires from/to my ignition switch?
My specific problem is the wire ganged with the ballast resistor wire. The
resistor wire is red with a green stripe. The wire ganged with it (to the
same ignition switch post)is red with a yellow stripe. That wire has melted
through, and I'd like to wire past it.
Can anyone help? Also, does the resitor wire terminate at the ignition
relay? Does anyone have a wiring diagram for this vehicle? How about in
..gif .bmp or .jpg format? Many thanks in advance!
Matt Tobin
mattrt ix.netcom.com


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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:38:41 -0500
From: "Dennis Witthuhn"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering

ok what is happening is you have air in the fluid not a problem its
supposed to look that way. it takes some time for all the air in the fluid
to go away
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From: ben
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 8:24 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - power steering


>I have a '79 F-150 4X4 that I'm attempting to fix up. I was trying to bleed
>the power steering today and ran into a problem. I jacked up the front end
>and fired it up, the reservoir would go empty. So while it was running I
>added the fluid, after a while white smoke started to come out the exhaust
>( different problem) so I shut it off. The fluid started to pour out of the
>previously empty reservoir. It was like a pink milk shake! I got my dad to
>help me the second time around. I would turn the wheel while he added the
>fluid. Same thing happened. So the question is, what am I doing wrong? What
>would cause this?
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:03:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Justin Farcas
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FUEL FILTERS?

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> From: Justin Farcas
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> I have a 4 barrel Edelbrock carb on my 79 460. It started acting up a
> fews days ago, it idled real hard and stalled when it was cold. I
> checked teh fuel filter.....there was none. Possible?
> --
>
>
>
> -Justin Farcas
>
>
>
>
> MOTHER, TELL YOUR CHILDREN NOT TO WALK MY WAY
> TELL YOUR CHILDREN NOT TO HEAR MY WORDS
> WHAT THEY MEAN, WHAT THEY SAY
> MOTHER
>
> MOTHER
> CAN YOU KEEP THEM IN THE DARK FOR LIFE
> CAN YOU HIDE THEM FROM THE WAITING WORLD
> OH MOTHER
>
> FATHER
> GONNA TAKE YOUR DAUGHTER OUT TONIGHT
> GONNA SHOW HER MY WORLD
> OH FATHER
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- --


MOTHER, TELL YOUR CHILDREN NOT TO WALK MY WAY
TELL YOUR CHILDREN NOT TO HEAR MY WORDS
WHAT THEY MEAN, WHAT THEY SAY
MOTHER

MOTHER
CAN YOU KEEP THEM IN THE DARK FOR LIFE
CAN YOU HIDE THEM FROM THE WAITING WORLD
OH MOTHER

FATHER
GONNA TAKE YOUR DAUGHTER OUT TONIGHT
GONNA SHOW HER MY WORLD
OH FATHER

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:29:08 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Always right????

Date sent: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 21:46:16 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Always right????

> "One of the reasons FE's have valley pans it to catch the push rods when
> they bend and fall out :-)"

> I'll have say it again,if you don't like EFs don't buy one but don't bad
> mouth them.

We have fun on this list at each other's expense but since most of us know
it's just in fun we don't get upset. Because it was one of the most prolific
engines in the ford line it also has the most horror stories, one of which is
bent pushrods for one reason of the other just as certain chrysler products
have a history of broken rockers (as does the FE) and 335 series seize up oil
pumps etc.. Under normal operation and with mild setups there are few
complaints but the FE is so much fun to build people get carried away and
the failures I have heard of often include push rods however often that may
be........:-)

My son just took one apart and found the rod caps had been installed on the
wrong rods. When he put new bearings in he put them back where he found
them because he didn't know about the number matching. They didn't hold
up so this time he got some pointers from the old man and matched
everything up and put in a new crank so we'll see how she goes this time :-)

I just holed a cylinder wall on a stock 460 which has pretty heavy walls so go
figure :-) Course it was out of the vehicle at the time.........and required a 4#
sledge and misapplied punch........:-) Push rods all looked pretty good
though :-)




A son-in-law only takes part of a daughter away,
Dad keeps the best part :-)

- -- Gary --


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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:22:31 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - BAAAD Backfire during hard acceleration

Date sent: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 08:30:47 -0500
From: Mike Masse
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - BAAAD Backfire during hard acceleration

> My 351M did this when it had a burned exhaust valve.

My first thought was burned intake but if it's backfiring in the muffler (after
fire) then yes, otherwise intake :-)

A son-in-law only takes part of a daughter away,
Dad keeps the best part :-)

- -- Gary --


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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:33:42 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - JCW Replacement Doors/Fenders?

Has anyone tried the replacement doors from JCW? I tried the fenders, and they
seemed to work out pretty good for the 67-72. Anyone tried the fenders for the
73-79 years????

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:50:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: bkirking bcm.tmc.edu
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Test valves with Compression test?

Will compression test tell if the valves are bad? In trying to diagnosis the backfiring, I ran the compression
test and all cylinders look good. But if the valves (esp valve lash?) are slightly off, will it show up on the
compression test? How else would one test them? take off the springs and test for movement?
Bryan Kirking
66 Step Side
352 4 speed
Houston, Texas


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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:07:15 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re - Starter Problems.

From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re - Starter Problems.
Date sent: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:11:55 -0400

> Note: in many cases those who are being told that there are "heavy duty"
> and normal duty Ford starters are being mislead if it is factory. All
> have the same basic specs.

Not quite........there is a 4 pole which should be used on the 460 or 429 and I
use it on all my big block (335 and 385) engines. This is the same starter in
every respect except it has a selenoid bendix system rather than positive
engagement type with the lever and moveable pole. The 4 pole has more
torque and a lower amp load so runs the 460 easier and is easier on the
battery. The frame, armature and fields are all the same stuff, just a different
way to engage the bendix and the solid field pole allows for closer tolerances
between the armature and poles for better torque.

A son-in-law only takes part of a daughter away,
Dad keeps the best part :-)

- -- Gary --


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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:59:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jesus Cardoso
Subject: FTE 61-79 - vin# door tags

Howdy!

I asked this question a few months ago, but I never got a
response. Does anyone know were I can get the VIN# door tag made for my
'63 F100? The door was replaced on it and the id tag was never replaced.

Thanks for your help,

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63 LWB F100 Flareside with a 292 Y-Block
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:05:23 -0500
From: Mike Masse
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Carter fixes

Deacon wrote:
>
> From: Darrell Duggan
> >problems. Seems the Holley 750 DP doesn't like to be bounced, as it
> would
> >flood and die if I didn't have it wide open. Oh well, just another
> reason to
> >convert to Holley Pro-Jection.
>

> Anyway the Holley is the wrong carb for what your doing. Try using an
> Edelbrock or a Carter and I think you'll be much happier.

I just put a Carter on my 351M for this very reason and for bounces it
works a million times better then the Holley did. I was on a very steep
rock hill yesterday though, and it kept flooding and killing just like
the Holley used to. Is there anything I can do to the Carter to help it
not flood out as easily on a hill??

-Mike
'78 Bronco
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:10:07 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - vin# door tags

At 01:59 PM 10/12/98 , you wrote:
>Howdy!
>
> I asked this question a few months ago, but I never got a
>response. Does anyone know were I can get the VIN# door tag made for my
>'63 F100? The door was replaced on it and the id tag was never replaced.
>
You might check one of the Mustang mag's, such as Mustang Monthly, they
might have someone advertising them in the classifieds section. Not sure
if yours will be the same or not, but they may do other styles too.


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:34:55 -0700
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Tweety Flies!

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, "Deacon" wrote:
> I hope you don't mind if I put my 2 cents in Darrell. No Holley's
> don't like to be bounced, they also don't like turning. Holley's work
> best when their kept level. The Holley Pro-Jection 4D starts around
> $1300.00 and by the time your finished you'll easily be over $2000.00.
> IMHO,TBI is a glorified carburetor. I admit it works good but not good
> enough to be worth $2000.00, more if you go 4Di, plus you'd need a
> laptop to program the controller. Take the base price of $1300.00 going
> carburetor and you have the best there is and money in your pocket.
> Anyway the Holley is the wrong carb for what your doing. Try using an
> Edelbrock or a Carter and I think you'll be much happier.

Or a Quadrasuck...heh, heh, heh...You're right. Holleys don't like to
go up, down, side hill or basically move from a standing position. For
a carbuetor for my 4x4 I am strongly considering a Quadrasuck. They
have monster secondaries and small primaries which causes both better
gas mileage and hesitation on acceleration, but they flow ~800+ CFM and
they sure don't mind tipping. I had my Chebby on a side hill so steep I
thought I might roll, gas was spilling out of the cap, but that carb was
idling happily away.

My opinion on fuel injection is that a feedback TBI is a quantum leap
over a carburetor. If you're thinking one of those old Holley systems I
can see your point. If it has an O2 sensor, however, it can adjust
mixture better than your best jetting ever could.

The real beauty of port fuel injection is when you have an intake air
plenum, rather than a standard type manifold, so you can optimize the
shape of the runners for maximum efficient air flow without having to
worry about keeping the velocity high enough to keep fuel in
suspension. Most of us can't afford this so TBI is almost as good.

Birken
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:38:17 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Will '85/'86 F100 parts fit '71 F100?

>From: "bradyiii"
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Will '85/'86 F100 parts fit '71 F100?
>
>A friend of mine is
>giving me what he believes to be an '85/'86
>F100(no title).
>
>I want to put that rear houseing with my
>pumpkin. Does anyone see any reason why
> this will not work?

Yo Jim:

The last year the F100 designation was used was 1983. Around 1982/83, Ford
stopped using the 9-inch rear axle in trucks. After that time, Ford
started using the 8.8-inch axle in F100/F150 trucks. Parts are not
interchangeable between the 8.8-inch and 9-inch axles. You can ID the
8.8-inch axle by its separate rear case cover, which the 9-inch axle does
not have.

Good luck w/ your truck.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)


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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:07:47 GMT
From: wayside cyberhighway.net (Rob Patelke)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re - Starter Problems.

On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:07:15 +0000, you wrote:

>From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault"
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re - Starter Problems.
>Date sent: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:11:55 -0400
>
>> Note: in many cases those who are being told that there are "heavy =
duty"
>> and normal duty Ford starters are being mislead if it is factory. All
>> have the same basic specs.
>
>Not quite........there is a 4 pole which should be used on the 460 or =
429 and I=20
>use it on all my big block (335 and 385) engines. This is the same =
starter in=20
>every respect except it has a selenoid bendix system rather than =
positive=20
>engagement type with the lever and moveable pole.=20
Snip

Gary,
The starter in my 400 just died this past week; you're saying I should
replace it with a 460 starter, right?
Are "they" gonna give me a hard time at the parts place when I trade in a
slightly different core?
Tia
Rob
'78 F250 4X4 400 C6 =20

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:20:06 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Serpenine Belts/

The late (90s) 460 Trucks have a serpentine belt set up.
You may be able to adapt to this set up to a 429?
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:20:09 -0700
From: "sam weatherby"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Tweety Flies!

I think if you look for good bargains at the local junk yards you should be
able to get a stock multiport EFI system rather cheap.
-srw

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:45:58 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 65 SWB

There is a 65' SWB for sale next door.
6Cyl, 3spd.
Basically straight; dent in left side of the bed in-front of the wheel well.
"New clutch, T/out Brng." So say da sign.
Looks like new exhaust too.
Runs ok didn't see any smoke.
Needs paint!
White spoke wheels and good tires.
I asked and the guy wants "$600 or so" but the sign says best offer.
This truck needs TLC and a Twin Turbo 427 Cammer-C6 and tubs in the back
covering some 20" wide Mickey's.
Please come get this toy and give it a good home...
Somebody get this truck away from me!!!
Chris.

Oh-ya; it's in Portland, Oregon.


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:30:42 -0400
From: "Robert C. Owens"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 2wd lift kits?

Any one know of a source for 2wd lift kits for 73-79 F-150s' ?

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:42:52 PDT
From: "Eric Guin"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Tweety Flies!

- ----Original Message Follows----
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:34:55 -0700
From: Vogt Family
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Tweety Flies!
Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, "Deacon" wrote:
> I hope you don't mind if I put my 2 cents in Darrell. No Holley's
> don't like to be bounced, they also don't like turning. Holley's work
> best when their kept level. The Holley Pro-Jection 4D starts around
> $1300.00 and by the time your finished you'll easily be over $2000.00.
> IMHO,TBI is a glorified carburetor. I admit it works good but not good
> enough to be worth $2000.00, more if you go 4Di, plus you'd need a
> laptop to program the controller. Take the base price of $1300.00
going
> carburetor and you have the best there is and money in your pocket.
> Anyway the Holley is the wrong carb for what your doing. Try using an
> Edelbrock or a Carter and I think you'll be much happier.

Or a Quadrasuck...heh, heh, heh...You're right. Holleys don't like to
go up, down, side hill or basically move from a standing position. For
a carbuetor for my 4x4 I am strongly considering a Quadrasuck. They
have monster secondaries and small primaries which causes both better
gas mileage and hesitation on acceleration, but they flow ~800+ CFM and
they sure don't mind tipping. I had my Chebby on a side hill so steep I
thought I might roll, gas was spilling out of the cap, but that carb was
idling happily away.

My opinion on fuel injection is that a feedback TBI is a quantum leap
over a carburetor. If you're thinking one of those old Holley systems I
can see your point. If it has an O2 sensor, however, it can adjust
mixture better than your best jetting ever could.

The real beauty of port fuel injection is when you have an intake air
plenum, rather than a standard type manifold, so you can optimize the
shape of the runners for maximum efficient air flow without having to
worry about keeping the velocity high enough to keep fuel in
suspension. Most of us can't afford this so TBI is almost as good.

Birken
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Hey Guys,
I have a 4x4 and am getting ready to build a new engine
for it( i am thinking 351 cleveland or a windsor, any suggestions?) Does
any one know where i can find one of these "quadrasuck" carbs?
They sound pretty good, thx for the help.

Arizona Eric
79' ford Bronco, 400M

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