61-79-list-digest Wednesday, August 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 423



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Hot Coil
FTE 61-79 - 1970 F100 Ranger
FTE 61-79 - Beverage of Choice
Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot Coil
FTE 61-79 - cooling thread
FTE 61-79 - diff vent
Re: FTE 61-79 - Thrashed Spindles.
Re: FTE 61-79 - Suggestions needed for Radius rods
FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods
FTE 61-79 - hump height
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hump heighth
FTE 61-79 - Moved
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods
FTE 61-79 - How to remove complete dash???
Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole
Re: FTE 61-79 - beverage of choice
Re: FTE 61-79 - 240-300 straight six swap
Re: FTE 61-79 - Hump Height
Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole
FTE 61-79 - Radial - Bias
RE: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Disc Brake Conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - Radial - Bias
Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole
[none]
Re: FTE 61-79 - Radial - Bias
FTE 61-79 - chrome plating in California
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Off topic
FTE 61-79 - 300 six
FTE 61-79 - FTE in Truckin' magazine
Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole
FTE 61-79 - F-600 uses
Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE in Truckin' magazine
Re: FTE 61-79 - Downshift
Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 bellhousings
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1970 F100 Ranger
FTE 61-79 - Tranny Swap

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:55:48 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Hot Coil

Stitch wrote: "My stock coil gets really hot after the engines been
cruising, but
luckily hasn't been hot enough to fail - yet!.....I'm told by some that
the truck is missing it's ballast resistor...."
That ballast resistor looks more or less like a white ceramic block
with a small coil of wire on it. I've seen them mounted in a variety of
locations, including on the intake manifold where your coil is currently
mounted. The coil on my '54 is mounted upside down on the firewall, and
seems to get a pretty unrestricted blast of air from the engine fan to
keep it cool. As I mentioned in a previous post, I use a Bosch Blue
coil, thus dispensing with the resistor block entirely. Ford DID use a
resistor wire that does the same thing as the resistor block, but I have
no real idea when they began using it.

David wrote: "i have a 351 cleveland i am wondering how hard it is
to
rebuild it??? i have never taken an engine apart before..."
To answer that question, David, I would have to ask "How handy are
you with a wrench?" My advice to you is to go to your local bookstore
and get a copy of HP Books manual on rebuilding that engine. I don't
remember what the title of that book is, but someone on this list surely
does. My other word of advice is: DON'T TAKE SHORTCUTS!!!!" My first
overhaul was on a VW, and because I tried to cut some corners, the
engine only lasted about 10,000 miles.

- --
Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:49:15 -0500
From: "Bob Brothers"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1970 F100 Ranger

My name is Bob Brothers and I've been lurking on
the list for about a week. I live in the country
east of Dallas (~65miles) and have had the '70
PU for about 10 years.

It has a 360 with a C6 behind it. No rust, but
unfortunately the hood is a bit wrinkled since it
separated itself from its hinges and plopped down
behind the truck. This was while my wife was returning
home from town at about 65 MPH. One of these days I'll
replace it. But right now I have more urgent problems.

This engine has been VERY loose for about the last
100K miles. At about that time I replaced the rear main
seal and noticed everything just sort of flopped around :

I didn't have time/money to do much else with it at the time
and figured I'd wait until it stopped! Well it took 100K, but
it finally stopped. The main cause of its demise is valves, but
I figured now that I have a fairly nice shop I'd tear it down
for a complete overhaul.

When I removed the heads I was confronted with some rather nasty
valves (badly burned) and worst, after cleaning the piston tops,
the numbers 060 stamped into their top. I've never been faced with
a 060 over block before, but I'm pretty sure their not in high
demand for rebuilding ;( especially after talking to several suppliers
of short blocks in the Dallas area. So if I go the short block route
I'm going to have to add the core charge to the cost of the block.

My question (finally!) is: What course of action do you recommend? Even
with a new short block I still need the heads done (I don't think these
are hardened either). But, another possibility is (is it?): I have a
351M (1975 I think) with FMX transmission just sitting around. Is this a
possible replacement for the 360 and would the 351M bolt up to the
C6 instead of using the FMX?

Sorry for the bandwidth.
TIA
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:59:37 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Beverage of Choice

When I pop a top all I hear is something snarling..... Release Da
Beast!!!..:-) Slam a six of sixteens and ask mama whats for supper. The
answer is usually nothin.....:-)

> Steve DeL. writes: >>a Sierra Nevada Porter, a Deschutes Black Butte
> Porter, or maybe a Guinness Stout. For hot weather swaps, I prefer a
> Pyramid Hefeweizen or Sierra Nevada Wheat beer. If You prefer Lagers, it's
> pretty hard to beat a Gordon Biersch Marzen..

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:32:37 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole

JAMES MERLO wrote:
>
> This may sound really stupid, but on my spicer 70, where is the vent hole?
> I have a drain plug in the bottom and a fill plug on the cover about 2/3
> of the way up. I don't see a vent hole. What purpose does this vent hole
> serve? Where is it?
>

If this rear is anything like a dana 70, vent tube should be slightly
left of differential casing, looking at rear from the back of tuck. It
may be incorporated with brake line "T" joint bolted to axle. It may be
just a short metal vent, not even having a tube connected to it.

The vent allows air to move in and out of the differential. When the
fluid heats or cools, it's volume changes and either forces air in or
out. Without this vent, you would be forcing the air in or out of one of
the seals and that seal would most likely start to leak.

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:01:51 -0700
From: Denise McCullough Strong
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hot Coil

The Neighbors wrote:
>
> Stitch wrote: "My stock coil gets really hot after the engines been
> cruising, but
> luckily hasn't been hot enough to fail - yet!.....I'm told by some that
> the truck is missing it's ballast resistor...."
> That ballast resistor looks more or less like a white ceramic block
> with a small coil of wire on it. I've seen them mounted in a variety of
> locations, including on the intake manifold where your coil is currently
> mounted. The coil on my '54 is mounted upside down on the firewall, and
> seems to get a pretty unrestricted blast of air from the engine fan to
> keep it cool. As I mentioned in a previous post, I use a Bosch Blue
> coil, thus dispensing with the resistor block entirely. Ford DID use a
> resistor wire that does the same thing as the resistor block, but I have
> no real idea when they began using it.


My '61 F-100 had a resistor wire (pink)



>
> David wrote: "i have a 351 cleveland i am wondering how hard it is
> to
> rebuild it??? i have never taken an engine apart before..."
> To answer that question, David, I would have to ask "How handy are
> you with a wrench?" My advice to you is to go to your local bookstore
> and get a copy of HP Books manual on rebuilding that engine. I don't
> remember what the title of that book is, but someone on this list surely
> does. My other word of advice is: DON'T TAKE SHORTCUTS!!!!" My first
> overhaul was on a VW, and because I tried to cut some corners, the
> engine only lasted about 10,000 miles.
>
> --
> Don Neighbors
> '54 F250 Named Grover
>
> "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
> innaccesible part of the vehicle."
>
> grover ford-trucks.com
>
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 07:45:43 -0500
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - cooling thread

Sorry, Bill. I live slap in the middle of Texas.

I didn't weigh the radiator. I can spell, I just don't proofread my own
stuff too well.

I think I will look for one of those high flow thermostats. My son has a
Summit catalog around here somewhere. BTW, I've ordered a lot of things
from JC Whitney over the years. By far most of the merchandise has been top
quality, but I have been screwed a couple of times on small items. In each
case they have either replaced the item or refunded my money or it has been
so insignificant that I ignored it. I have lost a little return shipping.
The most aggravating thing they do is list something in their catalog that
they don't stock.

My new radiator kept the engine much cooler today on my errands, including
stop and go driving with the air on. There is still some room for
improvement. Either I have a flow restriction in the coolant circuit or my
fan isn't pulling enough air. Sorry, Steve, I've owned several cars with
electric fans. The run on that you like is exactly what I don't like. Now
if the water pump kept circulating the coolant, you might convert me. I
lost a grease rag once and I was lucky to only lose that. They do a good
job of cooling, I just don't like them. When the key goes to off, I want
all moving or noisy components to stop. (The load levellers on a Caddy I
had aged me several extra years.)


- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6, bashed in left door, new left front fender
1988 Towncar 5.0 EFI E4OD
Macintosh G3/233 minitower (The software box said Windows95 or better, so I
bought a Mac.)
1979 MC under restoration (my son loves old cars, too!!!)

Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:05:23 -0500
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - diff vent

I don't think anyone else answered the purpose of the vent hole. It allows
for expansion and contraction of the air inside. Without a vent hole the
diff would generate enough heat to cause excessive pressure on your seals.
Presto!, a nice drip on your driveway. The vent on my 2WD has a hose that
loops up by the rear tank. I have seen vents that look like a metal cap
pressed on a bolt sticking out of the top of the axle housing. I like this
type better as mud daubers do not find them attractive for building condos.


- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6, bashed in left door, new left front fender
1988 Towncar 5.0 EFI E4OD
Macintosh G3/233 minitower (The software box said Windows95 or better, so I
bought a Mac.)
1979 MC under restoration (my son loves old cars, too!!!)

Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:15:38 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Thrashed Spindles.

From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Thrashed Spindles.
Date sent: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:35:31 -0700

> There are M/Spray processes that do not require the inter-pass temperature
> to be higher then 6-7000F.

I knew about this process but had no details so didn't mention it since I
didn't think it would do the job anyway, as you say. The high temp process
does work well but not on hardned spindles, mainly drive shafts with mostly
take torsion loadings that I've seen it used on with success and they usually
get flame hardned and tempered before use which is less accurate than part
heat treating in a furnace or induction hardening which is most likely what
they use on spindles.

> If you can not find a new, or at least better condition spindle which is
> the only real fix.

I totally agree, spindles are not something to take chances with yet, as I said,
if it will support the races then you can probably get away with using it as is
but don't try to fix it. Strength isn't an issue here but spinning the inner race
is a very real concern.

> Industrial Hard Chrome Plating. Take them the spindle and a set of new
> bearings. They will grind the OD of the spindle to remove any sharp edged
> damage and then Chrome it oversize. Then the spindle must be "baked" at
> 4000 (I think) for some period of time to release the hydrogen that is the
> cause of hydrogen enbrittlement

We use hard chrome on spindles that have no loadings but need a hard
surface and we have them rechromed hundreds of times so they must have
some way to prevent the brittleness as you say but I'm not familiar with the
whole process and yes it is expensive for this application. The grinding
process alone will eat up most of the savings. Chrome is extrememly hard to
grind true and requires a lot of fussing. Expensive wheels and lots of light
cuts etc..

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:24:54 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Suggestions needed for Radius rods

From: OldTrux aol.com
Date sent: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:01:56 EDT
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Suggestions needed for Radius rods

> I took mine (from a '66 4x4) to a welder/machinist. He cut off the old
> end, drilled out the radius rod and made new ends which he pressed in and
> welded. Better than new now!

Since there is no side loading or "shear" loading on these studs this is a good
solution. I like threading them in so they can be replaced but realistically they
will probably never need to be again anyway, just call me retentive :-)


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:39:34 -0500
From: "J Elliott"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods

Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
>
>I even greas C busings.
>

Okay, I will unabashedly show my ignorance. What exactly are the C bushings?
I have run across the term recently, and find no reference to them in the
limited manuals that I have. I am going to replace the radius rod and
I-beam bushings, but what are the C's? (I know that the bushing
manufacturer calls them out as separate from the ones I am doing).



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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:39:25 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - hump height

Azie,
I have noticed there are some catalogs which
offer 2 sizes of floor mats for 67-72 models. One is a 5 inch high
hump and one is an 8 inch high hump. Maybe they are crazy or you have
Alzheimers.

:)
Stu
Nuke GM!
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:46:44 -0500
From: "J Elliott"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hump heighth

> Are you joshing me???????? Different hump heights for a manual than for
> the auto?????



>They are different, even on the 73 - 79's. Two-wheel drive autos (and I
>suppose 3 in the trees) have a small hump that is molded in. I think all
four
>speeds and/or 4x4s have a bolt on hump that is taller, and has the holes
cut
>out.

My '69 with automatic, as indicated by the VIN has a bolt-in hump on top of
the integral center hump. From the discussion, it would appear to be the
"low-profile" one, about 1/2 inch tall at the back, about 1.5-2 inches at
the front.

Jim Elliott



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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:51:15 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Moved

Jerry writes: >>Hey Azie - Did you move ?

Naw!!! Just can't spell anymore..

Can you guys/gals tell I'm bored today????

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:03:34 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods

> >I even greas C busings.
> >

Why????


OX
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:53:34 -0400
From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis
Subject: FTE 61-79 - How to remove complete dash???

Fellow truck owners..I am trying to remove the metal portion of the
dash, I have the pad off and the bolts off the bottom brackets to
the dash but the top of the dash will not budge???Its a 1968 truck
Anybody remove theres???
Joe
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:05:59 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole

From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole
Date sent: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:14:00 -0500

> This may sound really stupid, but on my spicer 70, where is the vent hole?
> I have a drain plug in the bottom and a fill plug on the cover about 2/3
> of the way up. I don't see a vent hole. What purpose does this vent hole
> serve? Where is it?

On the ford 9" it's incorporated into the brake line junction block bolt. On
the Dana 44 it's a separate hole with pressed in tube which falls out so I
welded it up and put a ford 9" banjo bolt or tube bolt, whatever, in the same
location as the retainer bolt for the front junction block so it works just like
the ford 9". The dana 70 should have something similar or it may just have a
top hat like an auto tranny which is just a floating cap on a little tube to let air
in and out. Unfortunately it also lets water and dirt in or out........:-(

Most guys who do off roading and anticipate water will run the vent tubes all
the way up to the engine air cleaner to keep the opening out of the goo or
even a separate filter setup just for the vents. My truck has 4 vents :-)


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:48:55 -0500
From: "J Elliott"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - beverage of choice

Here in Tennessee, in our 94-plus summers, Lynchburg Lemonade makes for good
refreshment, despite its impact on the work pace.



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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:57:53 -0600
From: "Richard Currit"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 240-300 straight six swap



> While You've got the motor out for the swap, don't forget to throw a =
>fresh
> input shaft seal and plate gasket on that 4-speed. It only takes a few
> minutes to change them while the engine is out.

Had planned on that, and more. I have a nasty bearing noise coming from =
my tranny. Symptoms are this; Bearing growls at idle when the clutch is =
OUT. Growls on the road when at constant, or "floating", speed, doesn't =
growl when accelerating or when under compression. My best guess is the =
input shaft bearing. How does this guess sound to you all? Any other =
possibilities? How hard is this bearing to replace? TIA.
High Plains Richard
'72 F-100 =20

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:01:52 -0600
From: "Richard Currit"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Hump Height

Man that subject line really begs for a smart*ss reply. But as a point of =
reference. When I put the four on the floor into my '72 F-100 I had to =
cut a major hole in the hump. This was a 3 on the tree truck when I got =
it. I took a pretty big hole to fit the toploader through. But I did =
find one of those bolt on humps to put over it.

High Plains Richard
'72 F-100
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:26:30 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole

My truck has 4 vents :-)


OK, I've run the front and rear diff's and rear of transfer case up
to taillight/top of engine compartment level. I was told that tranny
vented through the transfer. I have an extra T-18/NP205 combo and can no
find a tranny vent. Does the NP435 have a vent that I missed? I assumed
since they allow oil passage back and forth between them
(tranny/trnsfer), that only one vent was required.


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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:33:22 -0500
From: "Brett"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Radial - Bias

I'm pretty sure this was discussed a while back, but, I can't remember the
conclusion of the discussion. I'm wondering if it would be ok to run radials
in the front and bias in the back, or vice versa. These are 38" mud tires on
a 76 F250 4x4 that does see highway quite a bit.

Thanks,
Brett
76 F250 4x4 460 c6 38's

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:51:56 -0700
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 Disc Brake Conversion

Joe, have you looked in the Technical Articles section of the Lists home
page? I know it works for the 2wd trucks as for the 4x4??? After you get
your conversion done maybe you and Jeff could get together and write an
update for the Disc brake conversion page. Just a suggestion.

John
66F100 240-I6
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:50:26 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Radial - Bias

From: "Brett"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Radial - Bias
Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:33:22 -0500

> I'm pretty sure this was discussed a while back, but, I can't remember the
> conclusion of the discussion. I'm wondering if it would be ok to run
> radials in the front and bias in the back, or vice versa. These are 38"
> mud tires on a 76 F250 4x4 that does see highway quite a bit.

It was discussed and the consensus was that they don't mix well but in my
experience as long as you don't mix them on the same axle they work ok.
There was something about the slip raduis being different so that one end
would crab more than the other causing handling problems but I ran bias on
the rear and radials on the front for quite a while and the way I drive I should
think I would have found the problem if one existed.

DO NOT PUT THEM ON THE SAME AXLE! I can tell you this does not
work at all, not even at slow speeds and and higher speeds it is VERY scary
:-( I tried this and they stayed on just about long enough for me to get home
from the test run and get them back off :-(

I once turned only one side each of a set of rotors and...........you don't want
to know :-(


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:52:23 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole

From: luxjo thecore.com
Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:26:30 -0400
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole

> tranny vent. Does the NP435 have a vent that I missed? I assumed since
> they allow oil passage back and forth between them (tranny/trnsfer), that
> only one vent was required.

Sorry, another one of them dang assumptions.....got 4 boxes, must have 4
vents.........guess not eh?

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:32:11 PDT
From: "Don Jones"
Subject: [none]

>>Unless you had waist high axle vent lines, you will definately have
water in the diff's. As soon as you dunk a diff, the fluid contracts and
sucks in what ever is on the end of vent tube. My guess is you have
stock vent tubes.


Actually the vent tubes were replaced with vinyl tubing this spring and
terminate up under the frame..(about waist high). Anyway i let the
truck sit overnight then loosened the drain plugs. i reasoned that any
water would have settled to the bottom or the oil would have turned
milky I never found any.

>>I would also run my hands over the entire carpet and check for
leakage. If water gets inbetween carpet and floor, a hole will follow
shortly. Ask me how I know :-)

Carpets??!! Not in my truck!! ;-) i have the stock rubber floor and
and vintage fomoco accessory mats.

>>Once the rope is out then move the rubber towards
the metal with your hands so that is seats into the metal channel. Go
around the windshield several time both inside and outside. BE SURE TO
WEAR
GLOVES WHILE DOING THIS.
***~~AND SAFETY GLASSES~~***

Don Jones, Northern Ont. Can.

'85 f-150 SC ~~~FOR SALE~~~
'70 f-250 4x4 "Fordzilla"

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:35:31 -0700
From: MC
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Radial - Bias

I am running radials on the front and bias on the rear at the moment and don't
have any problems around town or on the back roads. Once I get on the freeway,
it's another story. The front of the truck goes where I tell it to but the bias
tires on the back like to follow the ruts in the road from the big trucks and
that is really scary at 70-75 mph, so I tend to avoid the freeway. New tires
are the next purchase on my list.

Brett wrote:

> I'm pretty sure this was discussed a while back, but, I can't remember the
> conclusion of the discussion. I'm wondering if it would be ok to run radials
> in the front and bias in the back, or vice versa. These are 38" mud tires on
> a 76 F250 4x4 that does see highway quite a bit.
>
> Thanks,
> Brett
> 76 F250 4x4 460 c6 38's
>
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - chrome plating in California


Gentlemen,

I understand there is an excellent plating shop...somewhere in S. Cal
but my sources can't remember the name or location now.. does anyone
have a source and name they will share

TIA

John
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:06:57 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Off topic

I don't want to squash anyone's fun but the drink of
choice thread is pretty off topic. Just thought I'd
send a reminder.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:09:09 -0700
From: "Robert Houlne"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 300 six

I was wondering how many of you have or have had a Ford truck with the 300
six. My personnel experience with the engine has been great. I think it is
the greatest and most reliable engine ever build, way more than some
japanese car.

Anyway I would like to here from you!!

Robert



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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:21:45 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE in Truckin' magazine

The October issue (now on news-stands) of Truckin' magazine
has a really nice write-up about Ford Truck Enthusiasts (thanks
Gary!). The article is about web sites and they really
complimented us. I wanted to send a public "thank you" to
Truckin Magazine and also let the list members know so they
can check it out.

Regards,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:27:44 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole

Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
>
> From: luxjo thecore.com
> Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:26:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole
>
> > tranny vent. Does the NP435 have a vent that I missed? I assumed since
> > they allow oil passage back and forth between them (tranny/trnsfer), that
> > only one vent was required.
>
> Sorry, another one of them dang assumptions.....got 4 boxes, must have 4
> vents.........guess not eh?

Guess they figured they can get away with one ;-)

OX
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:24:07 -0700
From: "Jim Cron"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-600 uses

>Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:27:00 EDT
>From: JRethford aol.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Synthetic oils
>
>This brings up a question I've had for a while. What are those F-500 up
used
>for? I know an old manual of mine had numbers for a F-1000 but no idea
what
>it was used for?
>

>Josh

I don't know about the F-1000 but the F-600's are pretty common around here
for mid-range dump trucks and widely used for farm and ranch work. Lots of
grain trucks in eastern Wash. and Oregon, hay trucks, stock trucks, that
sort of thing. My '65 F-600 came out of Ellensburg Washington, right off
the farm. Probably hauled a lot of hay and grain, then later when they got
newer trucks for that work this was for rock for roads and such stuff they
didn't want to haul in the new trucks. I use it for odd lots of logs,
hauling cottonwood and stumps to disposal, that sort of thing. painfully
ugly IMHO but does the job.

Jim
somewhere near Seattle

'74 F-250 work truck
'67 F-100 play truck
'65 F-600 ugly truck



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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:32:52 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE in Truckin' magazine

Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:21:45 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE in Truckin' magazine

> The October issue (now on news-stands) of Truckin' magazine
> has a really nice write-up about Ford Truck Enthusiasts (thanks
> Gary!). The article is about web sites and they really
> complimented us. I wanted to send a public "thank you" to
> Truckin Magazine and also let the list members know so they
> can check it out.

Page 42 :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:54:10 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Downshift

I know about manually putting it into 2nd, i allready do that. But I
wanted it to shift at WOT, like its supposed too. I will see what I can do...

At 10:12 AM 8/25/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Cannondale writes: >>It kinda sucks when I tow a heavy trailer up a hill
>and it dosent downshift.
>
>Your shift selector most likely has "P R N D 2 1 (or L). Manually put the
>selector in 2 and it will accomplish the same. I'm not familiar with the
>E'brock setup, so I can't comment on how to make it work, but if you move
>that selector rod back toward the rear far enough, then the tranny should
>downshift. You may have to change the radius of some of the bends in the
>rod to essentially make the rod longer..
>
>Good luck
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.
>
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:19:00 -0500
From: Dayton Boyd
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - axle vent hole

At 10:15 AM 8/26/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>JAMES MERLO wrote:
>>
>> This may sound really stupid, but on my spicer 70, where is the vent hole?
>> I have a drain plug in the bottom and a fill plug on the cover about 2/3
>> of the way up. I don't see a vent hole. What purpose does this vent hole
>> serve? Where is it?
>>
>
> If this rear is anything like a dana 70

Its a Dana Spicer 70, Dana is just a short name

cannandale
'78 F250 4x4, 460



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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:20:06 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods

From: "J Elliott"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods
Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:39:34 -0500

> Okay, I will unabashedly show my ignorance. What exactly are the C
> bushings? I have run across the term recently, and find no reference to
> them in the limited manuals that I have. I am going to replace the radius
> rod and I-beam bushings, but what are the C's? (I know that the bushing
> manufacturer calls them out as separate from the ones I am doing).

C bushings are rubber half bushings that sandwich the axle on dana 44's and
go in the big end of the radius arms. These are the ones that can be used to
change your caster if you like.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:21:36 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods

From: luxjo thecore.com
Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:03:34 -0400
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Suggestions needed for Radius rods

> > >I even greas C busings.

> Why????

They get some movement and the grease helps them seat all the way so the
rubber is as settled and relaxed as possible so it can do it's job as a shock
absorber etc..

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:24:27 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 bellhousings

From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 bellhousings
Date sent: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:10:12 -0500

> bellhousings for 460 motors. It would seem to me since the 351M/400M use
> the same bellhousing pattern, that if a 351M/400M motor/trans combination
> was found, this bellhousing could be used.

I've heard the crank stubs put the flywheel in a different position so the bell
housings are different but in the case of automatics this was not the case in
the swaps I've done although they say the pilot holes in the crank are
different between the series and the converters need to match the pilot hole
but I never noticed a problem there, maybe that's why mine is clanking now
when I put it in gear :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:26:57 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1970 F100 Ranger

From: "Bob Brothers"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1970 F100 Ranger
Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:49:15 -0500....


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