Re: FTE 61-79 - external ajustment for manual steering box?

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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - external ajustment for manual steering box?
Re: FTE 61-79 - external ajustment for manual steering box?
FTE 61-79 - Foreign Language
FTE 61-79 - 300-6 & 50 more HP
FTE 61-79 - Engine Weight
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: anti-SUV survey
FTE 61-79 - NP435
FTE 61-79 - Torque - Horsepower
FTE 61-79 - question on brakes?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Foreign Language
FTE 61-79 - looking for 390 headers
Re: FTE 61-79 - Foreign Language
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: 250,000th visitor
FTE 61-79 - Lincoln 9" rear with disc brakes
FTE 61-79 - Re: 1963 rear end sway
FTE 61-79 - FTE list
FTE 61-79 - timed vs standard vac ports for timing
FTE 61-79 - JOHN MILLER
FTE 61-79 - '78 F-100 shop manual
FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44
Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44
FTE 61-79 - brakes?
RE: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44
Re: FTE 61-79 - brakes?
Re: FTE 61-79 - brakes?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44
Re: FTE 61-79 - JOHN MILLER
FTE 61-79 - Driveline madness
Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44
Re: FTE 61-79 - Driveline madness
FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhaust
RE: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 1963 rear end sway
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - Driveline madness
FTE 61-79 - 427 sohc
FTE 61-79 - 63 Front Drum Brake Wheel Cylinders
Re: FTE 61-79 - 427 sohc

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 10:41:40 -0600
From: "Michael White"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - external ajustment for manual steering box?

Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - external ajustment for manual steering box?

>I may be wrong about this, but doesn't the 69 use the same rubber u-joint
in
>the steering column? Mine went out and if I hit a bump, I would find
myself
>in a different lane. If you have one I will almost guarantee that's what
the
>problem is

..........................

Yes, I did replace that, and everything else except the manual gearbox with
new parts.

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 10:32:15 -0600
From: "Michael White"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - external ajustment for manual steering box?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ken Payne
To: 61-79-list

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Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - external ajustment for manual steering box?

>At 11:16 PM 7/7/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>After converting the front drums to power disc, and replacing all steering
>>and suspension items with new parts on my red 1969 F250 (execpt for the
>>gearbox), The truck still seems to have too much play in the steering. (I
am
>>comparing the performance to my green 69 which has the same setup, and is
>>tight.)
..........................

>Did you replace the rubber rag joint on the steering column?
>I've done two of these conversions, one for a friend. The
>results are well worth it and you can't tell the truck isn't
>stock unless you look under it.
>
>Ken Payne
>
.........................

Yes, I did replace the rubber rag joint, and everything else exept the
manual gear box with new parts. (the old one was torn up, and the safety
studs were chewed in half.... I bought it that way)

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:14:49 -0400
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Foreign Language

Bkirking writes: >>According to Elements of Heat Transfer (bayazitoglu and
ozisik) heat transfer due to convection is of the form q=h(t1-t2), where h
is a function of the tube geometry, orientation (verticle vs horizontal),
and speed of the air flow. As the air
speed can affect this equation radically, much attention is given to fans
and fan shrouds!

You may not realize it, but this is a foreign language to most of us
undereducated FOMOCO List guys.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:22:10 -0400
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 300-6 & 50 more HP

JumpinFord writes: >>Anyways, the reason for this letter is I am looking
for suggestions on getting a few (50) more HP out of a 300 six cylinder.

Banks turbocharger maybe!!!!!

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:24:52 -0400
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Engine Weight

JumpinFord writes: >>Oh by the way we don't want to switch to a V-8
because of how light this 6 cylinder is.

I don't bet, but if I did, I'd be willing to bet that that 300-6 outweighs
a 351W.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:39:19 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: anti-SUV survey

Boy they are NOT going to be happy with the results of that survey which of
course means that they will bury the results and redouble their efforts to
brainwash America into thinking we need to be "greener". At least it's
encouraging to see that the majority of us aren't as stupid as these
liberals think we are!

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> From: Paul M Radecki
> To: 80-96-list

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> Cc: 61-79-list

ford-trucks.com; perf-list

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> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: anti-SUV survey
> Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 11:42 AM
>
>
> Took the "survey". You all should, too, for a great example of bias
> and leading questions. Guess what, though? The results have been better
> than 2 to 1 in FAVOR of trucks/SUVs. Darn those freedom-loving, truck
> driving Americans, anyway...
>

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:45:17 -0400
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - NP435

William Ballinger:
I think you might have a combination of 2 seperate problems with your
NP435. I think the "clash" into high gear sometimes(mostly when hot) is
caused by the Syncronizer ring being worn. I think you can only buy these
as an assy anymore. (syncronizer hub and a Syncronizer ring on either side
of it)

I think your offset to high gear is a worn shift fork. You don't give any
mileage figures for it, but if it has over 150,000 miles on it, these two
(2) things would be my 1st place to look. You should be able to purchase
these at your local FOMOCO parts counter, or any reputable transmission
shop for heavy trucks. I'm guessing here cause I haven't been in one of
these in several years, but I would estimate the shift fork at about $20
and the Syncro assy at less than $40.

A good manual with an exploded view, is worth a thousand words here.

Hope this helps.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:18:21 -0400
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Torque - Horsepower

tom in Reno writes: >>What specs typically provide low end power vs high
rev power and why would one be desirable over the other?

Personal taste or desire - need. It all depends on what you are planning
to do with the particular vehicle. I like lots of cubic inches for torque
and cam it so that it has good Horsepower up to 5500 rpms for FE's and 6500
for 385 series (429's and 460's)

I'm not sure of this but torque is best when you have little overlap with a
significant amount of lift. Horsepower is best when you have a subatantial
amount of lift and nominal overlap. Too much overlap, and low rpm
driveability suffers drastically & so does economy, but upper RPM
horsepower is improved.(up to a point) When building for high RPM
horsepower lots of polishing/porting and headers are a "must", as well as
hi-tension valve springs and several other issues to make it stay together.
Gotta breathe good and gotta oil good.

For normal everyday driving and you are running a 3.50:1 rear end and a .7
OD then at 70 mph you are turning roughly 2150RPMs, so you would want your
torque to peak in the 2200-3000 range for passing, and still maintain good
economy at cruise speeds.

Azie

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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:22:21 -0700 (MST)
From: SKINS

asu.edu
Subject: FTE 61-79 - question on brakes?

i was wondering about the brakes on my77 4x4, it seems that the pressure is
not working correctly, the front brakes seem to be getting most of the
pressure, but if the truck is loaded in the rear the brakes work fine. im
wondering if it is the brake equalizer or if its something else? please give
me some info...

Miguel A. Quijada
~goblue

asu.edu~
www.public.asu.edu/~chonr11

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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:34:46 -0700
From: sdelanty

sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Foreign Language

>>Bkirking writes: >>According to Elements of Heat Transfer (bayazitoglu and
>>ozisik) heat transfer due to convection is of the form q=h(t1-t2), where h
>>is a function of the tube geometry, orientation (verticle vs horizontal),
>>and speed of the air flow. As the air
>>speed can affect this equation radically, much attention is given to fans
>>and fan shrouds!

>You may not realize it, but this is a foreign language to most of us
>undereducated FOMOCO List guys.
>
>Azie
>Ardmore, Al.

Uh, looked like english to me... Which word didn't You understand? (-:
They tried to teach us some of that heat transfer stuff in high school
physics class, but I was too busy trying to get the attention of the
girl sitting next to me to care much about high school physics...

I've read too many of Your posts to consider You undereducated Azie!
But each of us on the list has different knowledge to share, and that's
what makes it so cool and educational...

Steve
Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

"Light fuse and get away. Do not hold in hand.
Use only under close adult supervision.
For outdoor use only."

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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 17:26:42 -0400
From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis
Subject: FTE 61-79 - looking for 390 headers

Anybody have a set of 390 headers for sale for a 67-72 4x4??
- --
Joe
Aka. Fordguy
1968 F-100 4x4 302 Np435 Bone Stock down to the wheel covers
1970 F-250 4x4 390 Np435 The Beast
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:58:28 +0000
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Foreign Language

sdelanty

sonic.net wrote:

> Uh, looked like english to me... Which word didn't You understand? (-:
> They tried to teach us some of that heat transfer stuff in high school
> physics class, but I was too busy trying to get the attention of the
> girl sitting next to me to care much about high school physics...
>
> I've read too many of Your posts to consider You undereducated Azie!
> But each of us on the list has different knowledge to share, and that's
> what makes it so cool and educational...
>
> Steve
> Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

The words I get, its the X=yT(s*i-h) stuff that you all loose me.

What's this share stuff, I'm here to get all I can.
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon

Gibralter.net
96 F-350 Reg Cab XLT, 4x4, 460 w/ A4OD, My Baby "Baloo"
75 F-100 Reg Cab Ranger, 2wd, 360, C6, Daily Driver "Lucy"
and "always" looking ! ! !
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 22:31:27 PDT
From: "Kevin Leone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 1963 rear end sway

>
>I grew up around Springfield, MO and those hills stood between me and
>Table Rock Lake. They can be a formidable opponent. You are a lucky
>man, though If you've lived there awhile I bet you wish it was how it
>was 20 years ago. It's a nice town, but it made me a little sad last
>time I went over.

- -No I didn't grow up here. I am orig. from Colorado. I've battled these
roads for about two years though. I hear It has changed alot.

>
>When you soften up springs you increase body roll. Lowering offsets it
>to a degree, but roll will be more noticeable. If your shocks are a
>little weak, it will crow-hop worse because the springs arent
>controlling the motion as much as they did. Add to that, the shocks are
>mounted to control bounce in one direction only.
>
>You should put on a rear sway bar, as light as the truck is in the
rear,
>it doesn't have to be really thick, and stagger your shocks to stop
the
>hop. You see, the staggered shocks will break up and control the motion
>that causes crow-hop. Look under some late model trucks and use them
>for a pattern.

- -Have you ever tried staggering shocks? How much of a diff. does it
make?

>
>Push is going to be the demon you'll have to make peace with. Unless
>you redistribute the weight, it will have difficulty turning at higher
>speeds. The sway bars and shocks and lower center of gravity will help
>alot, but it will still push.

- -I plan on putting a gas tank between the rails in the rear once I
either construct one myself, or find a suitable donor that is narrow
enough, but still has about 19 gal. capacity. A jeep cj's only has 15,
and late model one's are plastic. I'd like to find something bigger.
Once I do relocate the tank that should help redistribute the weight to
an extent.

>
>It's very important to avoid deep-dished wheels on the front of
straight
>axle rigs, they cause bump-steer and wander,and are hard on the
>roller-type steering boxes, and king pins. (if you haven't switched to
a
>Saginaw type box yet, I highly reccomend it, but I'd still avoid deep
>wheels)

- -I'm not too familiar w/ the sagina's history. What year would be a
possible donar for both power and manual?

Thanks,
Kevin
1963 F-100 stakebed
292 4v

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:54:07 -0400
From: am14

chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE list

This is the complete message from our list administrator:

>>Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 13:26:05 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Nominate Ford Truck Enthusiasts?

Well its that time again, Car Lounge is taking nominations for
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Ford Truck Enthusiasts, please visit:

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Hope this helps.

Dad

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:37:58 -0400
From: luxjo

thecore.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - timed vs standard vac ports for timing

Hi all

Someone mentioned I need the timed vac port off my Carter AFB for the
distrib vac on my 78 Bronco. I was wondering if someone could explain
these ports and why a distrib might use this over a normal vac signal.

Thanks

OX
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon

uss.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - JOHN MILLER

John,

need your e-mail address for a private posting

thanks

John Niolon
jniolon

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 09:08:13 -0400
From: Heather Swanson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '78 F-100 shop manual

I'm trying to locate an original shop manual for a 1978 F-100. It's for my
dad. Thanks,

Heather Swanson

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 11:34:43 -0500
From: Mike Masse
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44

Did '76/77 4x4 F150's use leaf or coil springs up front?

If leaf, will the entire axle from an F250 of the same year swap
directly?

If coil, will the entire axle from a 78/79 swap directly?
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:00:48 -0700 (MST)
From: SKINS

asu.edu
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44

the 77 has a coil front suspension but i dont know if you can swap with a
78-79, my 77 has coil you can check out my front suspension on my home page if
you like its under ford77

Miguel A. Quijada
~goblue

asu.edu~
www.public.asu.edu/~chonr11

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:04:52 -0700 (MST)
From: SKINS

asu.edu
Subject: FTE 61-79 - brakes?

i was wondering about the brakes on my77 4x4, it seems that the pressure is
not working correctly, the front brakes seem to be getting most of the
pressure, but if the truck is loaded in the rear the brakes work fine. im
wondering if it is the brake equalizer or if its something else? please give
me some info...

Miguel A. Quijada
~goblue

asu.edu~
www.public.asu.edu/~chonr11

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:11:01 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44

mine has coils

sleddog

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From: Mike Masse[SMTP:mrm

medicine.wisc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 1998 12:34 PM
To: 61-79-list

Ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44

Did '76/77 4x4 F150's use leaf or coil springs up front?

If leaf, will the entire axle from an F250 of the same year swap
directly?

If coil, will the entire axle from a 78/79 swap directly?
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:22:41 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - brakes?

At 10:04 AM 7/9/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>i was wondering about the brakes on my77 4x4, it seems that the pressure is
>not working correctly, the front brakes seem to be getting most of the
>pressure, but if the truck is loaded in the rear the brakes work fine. im
>wondering if it is the brake equalizer or if its something else? please give
>me some info...
>
>Miguel A. Quijada
>~goblue

asu.edu~
>www.public.asu.edu/~chonr11
>
>

Maybe there one of those variable portioning setups
installed on it. Basically consists of an arm from
the axle to the frame. I've seen them before, not common
but useful. You want most of the braking power on
the front, otherwise the back end will lock up (does
it very easily.

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:42:14 -0700 (MST)
From: SKINS

asu.edu
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - brakes?

so you dont think there is anything wrong? because my dad owned the truck
since it came off the line and he says that it was not that disperportional
when braking. because it has a new master cylinder,all new brake lines,but the
only thing i havent replaced is the equalizer that is located under the driver
side door on the frame?

Miguel A. Quijada
~goblue

asu.edu~
www.public.asu.edu/~chonr11

On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Ken Payne wrote:

> At 10:04 AM 7/9/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >i was wondering about the brakes on my77 4x4, it seems that the pressure is
> >not working correctly, the front brakes seem to be getting most of the
> >pressure, but if the truck is loaded in the rear the brakes work fine. im
> >wondering if it is the brake equalizer or if its something else? please give
> >me some info...
> >
> >Miguel A. Quijada
> >~goblue

asu.edu~
> >www.public.asu.edu/~chonr11
> >
> >
>
> Maybe there one of those variable portioning setups
> installed on it. Basically consists of an arm from
> the axle to the frame. I've seen them before, not common
> but useful. You want most of the braking power on
> the front, otherwise the back end will lock up (does
> it very easily.
>
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:48:56 -0400
From: luxjo

thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44

Mike Masse wrote:
>
> Did '76/77 4x4 F150's use leaf or coil springs up front?
>

coil

> If coil, will the entire axle from a 78/79 swap directly?

Should, the only difference between 77-78 F-150's was the grill.

OX
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:17:26 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - JOHN MILLER

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> From: jniolon

uss.com
> John,
>
> need your e-mail address for a private posting

I can be reached at FoMoCoNUT

Gibralter.net or FoMoCoNUT2

aol.com or
FoMoCoNUT

aol.com

all will work.... with gibralter.net being my primary and the others are
backups or for the laptops when travelling.

John Miller, FoMoCoNUT

sonic.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Driveline madness

Sigh... well, I'm still fighting a nasty driveline vibration that
occurs above 70mph on my '71 F100.
The splines on the slip joint were *very* worn and had a lot of play, so
I took it to the driveline shop this week and had new parts welded on
and had the goods rebalanced.
It's quite a lot better now, but still has a bad buzz at high speeds.
I slid under the truck with a dial indicator and measured the run-out
on the shaft. The rear is perfect, but the front end of the shaft has
about .030" of runout.!
It turns out that the front yoke that goes on the tranny shaft is bent
somehow and so the u-joint isn't centered up with the tranny output shaft.
The tranny output shaft is not bent, it has less than .0015" of runout.

Sooo, I guess it's time for a new front yoke. I have no idea how a yoke
gets tweaked that much...

I tried to get my yoke off, but couldn't get a good grip on it with my
2-arm puller. I guess I'll have to make a tool that bolts up to the holes
in the yoke to get mine off...

Question: My tranny is a T-18, and I'm wondering what front yokes will fit
it. Does anyone know what the shaft diameter and number of splines is on
the T-18 tranny shaft? Will a yoke from a C-6 fit it? C-6's are plentiful
at the local wrecking yard, but I hardly ever see T-18's...
Anybody got a good front yoke that fits a T-18 they wanna part with?
The u-joint width is 3.25"

Thanks,

Steve
Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same.
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:53:35 +0000
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 76-77 4x4 Front Dana 44

Mike Masse wrote:

> Did '76/77 4x4 F150's use leaf or coil springs up front?
>
> If leaf, will the entire axle from an F250 of the same year swap
> directly?
>
> If coil, will the entire axle from a 78/79 swap directly?
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Q. F-150 4x4, coil or leaf?

A. Both

If I remember right the 4x4 supercab was built on the F-250 chassis
(front leaf springs) but that might not have been until late 77 while
the regular cab F150 came with coils.

All the F- 150 coil spring axles should bolt right in. What you would
need to do with the F-250 axle is move all the hubs and brakes to the
F-150 axle. Basicly if you have the small hub 3/4 ton axle everything
is same except for the hub and brakes. If you find the HD 3/4 ton axle
with the external locking hub you will need to swap over the outer stub
shafts also. Several other members ( 2 maybe more) have done this so
they should be able to give you a play by play how to.

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Don Grossman
duckdon

sonic.net wrote:

> I tried to get my yoke off, but couldn't get a good grip on it with my
> 2-arm puller. I guess I'll have to make a tool that bolts up to the holes
> in the yoke to get mine off...
>

I wanted to make one of those some day. What I was gona do is cut a piece of
plate with four holes for the yoke to bolt to and one big one in the center and
a nut welded to the back. Take bolt and grind down the center to a point and
thread through the nut. add air gun and zip... one yoke off.

> Question: My tranny is a T-18, and I'm wondering what front yokes will fit
> it. Does anyone know what the shaft diameter and number of splines is on
> the T-18 tranny shaft? Will a yoke from a C-6 fit it? C-6's are plentiful
> at the local wrecking yard, but I hardly ever see T-18's...
> Anybody got a good front yoke that fits a T-18 they wanna part with?
> The u-joint width is 3.25"

C6's have a slip yoke on the tail shaft. Tail shaft is splined and the drive
shaft just slips on so it wouldn't do you any good. It might cross with a
NP435. Check with that driveline shop they should be able to tell you for
sure. I have seen some with course splines (10 or so) and most of the newer
have a fine spline ( bunches and bunches).

You are gona kill me for saying this but check into a new one. The driveline
shop should be able to get just about any that are still produced.

Laters

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
> Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty
>
> Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same.
> -- Oscar Wilde
>
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Don Grossman
duckdon

pacific.net
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63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:30:00 -0400
From: "David L. Reeves"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhaust

I plan on putting dual exhaust on my 78-460. I would like some opinons
on installing a crossover 'H' pipe. I understand that this helps in
scavaging
the cylinders and gives a 'better' exhaust tone. Does anyone know =

where is the best place to put it? Also, any recommendations on mufflers=

and size pipes (only want to hear em when 460 comes alive) would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
David Reeves
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:41:37 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhaust

the crossover pipes from all i have seen either help or they don't, but
never hurt performance.

as for mufflers i suggest listening to other peoples vehicles to get an
idea how the brands they used sound as opinions differ. sound is so
subjective, as not just the decibal output effects how it sounds to
individuals.

i personally like the borla and flowmaster brands. both have different
sounds, but both sound good to me. i have heard other brands that sounded
nice but don't know what they are as i didn't ask.

as for performance that is a whole discussion alone, in fact going on now
on the performance list. more information is needed to make a good choice
than most consumers have when it comes to performance and mufflers.

sleddog

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From: David L. Reeves[SMTP:D_Reeves

compuserve.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 1998 8:30 PM
To: INTERNET:61-79-list

ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhaust

I plan on putting dual exhaust on my 78-460. I would like some opinons
on installing a crossover 'H' pipe. I understand that this helps in
scavaging
the cylinders and gives a 'better' exhaust tone. Does anyone know
where is the best place to put it? Also, any recommendations on mufflers
and size pipes (only want to hear em when 460 comes alive) would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
David Reeves

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:35:14 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD

aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhaust

Ive found that the best plac for a Crossover, or Balance pipe, is right behind
your header collectors. Not only does it improve sound quality, it also
boosts torque
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:43:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 1963 rear end sway

At 10:31 PM 8/7/98 PDT, you wrote:

>-I plan on putting a gas tank between the rails in the rear

Try a Ch#vy Van tank, they should fit... up to 30 gallons...

Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'63 F100 Longbox
'94 Taurus SHO - SWMBO's new car!!
and since most are listing all thier cars:
'72 Capri - Rockette's Toy, aka - SWMBO
'73 Capri - My Toy / Daily Driver
'73 MGB-GT Our Toy
'70 Torino GT My "New" Car

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:55:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhaust

At 10:35 PM 9/7/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Ive found that the best plac for a Crossover, or Balance pipe, is right behind
>your header collectors. Not only does it improve sound quality, it also
>boosts torque

Actually, there is a "scientific" method to find out where the crossover
should
be placed; paint the exaust, where the paint burns off first is the best
place for
the crossover........

Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'63 F100 Longbox
'94 Taurus SHO - SWMBO's new car!!
and since most are listing all thier cars:
'72 Capri - Rockette's Toy, aka - SWMBO
'73 Capri - My Toy / Daily Driver
'73 MGB-GT Our Toy
'70 Torino GT My "New" Car

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:28:55 -0700
From: sdelanty

sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Driveline madness

>sdelanty

sonic.net wrote:
>> I tried to get my yoke off, but couldn't get a good grip on it with my
>> 2-arm puller. I guess I'll have to make a tool that bolts up to the holes
>> in the yoke to get mine off...
>>

Don replies:
>I wanted to make one of those some day. What I was gona do is cut a piece of
>plate with four holes for the yoke to bolt to and one big one in the center and
>a nut welded to the back. Take bolt and grind down the center to a point and
>thread through the nut. add air gun and zip... one yoke off.

Yep, You just described exactly what I had in mind!
I found some 1/2" fine thread nuts and bolts and a chunk of 1/2" x 2"
flat bar in the garage, so I'm all set.
The hole spacings on my yoke are on 1-3/8" x 2-7/8" centers. Is that the same
spacings as You need? Let me know what size You want and I'll make an extra
one for You while I've got the bandsaw and welder out...

>C6's have a slip yoke on the tail shaft. Tail shaft is splined and the drive
>shaft just slips on so it wouldn't do you any good.

Oh yeah, I should have known that! I can remember removing a driveshaft from
a C-6 long ago and having it puke ATF on me...

>You are gona kill me for saying this but check into a new one. The driveline
>shop should be able to get just about any that are still produced.

Sigh... why not, a few more bux at the driveline shop won't make much
difference at this point... I'll call 'em next week and see how much $$.

Steve
Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same.
-- Oscar Wilde

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 02:33:44 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD

aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 427 sohc

I just saw that awesome 427 pics from pigeon forge.I was just wondering if
anyone knew how much hp that beauty made?
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