61-79-list-digest Friday, June 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 333



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Fluid
FTE 61-79 - Rebuild of Pwr steering pumpn
FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"
FTE 61-79 - Dana 60 front
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: cooling fans
FTE 61-79 - P/S fluid vs Auto fluid
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana 60 front
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"
FTE 61-79 - to eldon in alexandria, va
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"
FTE 61-79 - Fw: auction in Pa. Big block bonanza
FTE 61-79 - Rant
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rednecks/Junkyard
FTE 61-79 - Rant
FTE 61-79 - Was 400 timing now FE
FTE 61-79 - Crew cab beds
FTE 61-79 - Was 400 timing now FE Cams
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: cooling fans
RE: FTE 61-79 - Was 400 timing now FE Cams
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rednecks/Junkyard
FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine
Re: FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine
Re: FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine
FTE 61-79 - New tinted windshield
FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint
FTE 61-79 - Radiator Flush
Re: FTE 61-79 - Radiator Flush
RE: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint
RE: FTE 61-79 - dead list
FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 13:18:59 -0500
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Fluid

>Hi everyone, I've got a 76 F250 with power steering. I didn't realize that
>the power steering pumps took ATF and I filled it with regular power
>steering fluid. Will this cause any problems and if so what is the best way
>to change the fluid over to ATF?
>
Don't worry. PS fluid is usually just ATF without the red color. If it
was me I would forget about it in about 3 seconds.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:18:11 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rebuild of Pwr steering pumpn

Chris writes: >>Any one ever rebuild a Power steering pump of the 79
vintage? Tips? Pointers?

I've rebuilt several over the years, and they are very simple and straight
forward. Just clean everything really good, replace the seals - gaskets
and especially check the front bushing for wear. The front seal is usually
the culprit of leakage. This will usually get it done. Remember - when you
reinstall it, do not get the belt too tight. This is a power steering pump
- - not an A/C compressor nor an alternator. Just so it is tight enough to
prevent slippage, is all you need. Anyone with minimal skills can do this
one. Keep it clean - can't express this too much.

(If I'm not badly mistaken this is another of those items that Ford buys
from GM. Saginaw, I think)

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:28:20 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"

Gary writes: >> I just figured out how to use my engine hoist to
work as a transmission jack (with my new lift of course, won't work
too well in my pit :-)) by making a parallel arm setup to work with
the boom and a quick setup (with pins or something) tranny cage
which stays vertical no matter where the boom is, what do y'all
think? It won't ever tip over for sure and with rubber trailer tires is
pretty easy to move around now. I think I'm on a roll
here.......:-)

I believe you've got it figured out!!! Wish I had a lift that left the
underside completely open. Now I'm doing some serious thinking about a
hoist/lift.

Azie
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:30:47 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dana 60 front

Hey OX,

I know what you are talking about with the front springs bowing out slightly.
Mine do that to (4" lift), so do the stock ones I've seen around. I always
wondered why that was....I've seen two types of stock lower plates, and one
type is quite a bit thicker and beefier than the other. Other than being
thicker, I think they are the same. If you have 78 parts, I imagine you have
the heavier stuff.....especially now that you've added shims. Were you able to
get the heads of the spring retainer bolts to square up when they were
tightened?

Also, regarding brake lines, are you still running one drop-down hose and
splitting from the top of the diff, or did you split it out at the
proportioning valve and use steel lines along the frame, then drop down in
each fender well?. The 3/4 ton 4x4's I have seen all go with the latter setup,
which is what I ended up doing. I made some brackets that go directly off the
bottom of the frame between the spring tower and rear shock (assuming you have
quad shocks) and made my connection there. I think it's going to work pretty
good. Your Bronco proportioning valve probably has a spare inlet that is
blocked off with a plug.

Sounds like a great project, now I'm jealous with my little 44.....

Colorado Jeff



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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:32:53 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: cooling fans

> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 10:26:54 -0700
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: cooling fans

> I went with 2 fans because I figured it was overkill enough to be
> sure I don't have to be nervous in traffic jams on 105 degree
> days... I hate sitting in traffic watching the temp gauge keep
> climbing while I pound on the steering wheel shouting, "C'mon, LETS
> GO!

Did you manage to make some kind of full coverage shroud for yours?
Someone made his own out of sheet metal and used dual fans, was that
you? I think you said you had to push rather than pull also right?

Way I see it the shroud is already there and out of the way so why not
use it? Problem is I can't seem to find a 20" fan with the right
specs to use. For the shroud to work well, the fan needs to be pretty
close to the right size. Space between the grill and radiator is
pretty tight so a shroud would be hard to set up I think. Maybe I'll
take a look tonight and refresh my memory on that.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:47:12 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - P/S fluid vs Auto fluid

Brett writes: >>Hi everyone, I've got a 76 F250 with power steering. I
didn't realize that the power steering pumps took ATF and I filled it with
regular power steering fluid. Will this cause any problems and if so what
is the best way to change the fluid over to ATF?

Your maintenance manual would probably call for P/S fluid.
I'm not sure, but you can take this for what its worth to you. I've been
doing these things for 40plus years. I use either of the ATF's (type F or
Dextron) or the P/S fluid. I've never seen one fail for what was
considered using the wrong fluid. I'd venture to guess that most P/S
failures are due to excessive tightening of the belt and failure of the
front bushing and seal as a result.

I do not think P/S fluid will cause you any oroblems.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:58:41 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"

> From: am14 chrysler.com
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:28:20 -0400
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"

> I believe you've got it figured out!!! Wish I had a lift that left
> the underside completely open. Now I'm doing some serious thinking
> about a hoist/lift.

God! I can see it all now.........headline reads "Man found beaten
to death by rolling pins, hair brushes, mops and other household
items" All the SWMBO's unite! I'll get blamed for all the truck
list guys divorces.......What have I done.....:-)

Tell you what though, seriously.......a guy can spend a lot more
money and get toys he uses a lot less than that hoist will be used.
Since I already had the barn and the 12' ceiling was just adequate
for full usage of the hoist with most vehicles it just had to happen.
$6000 for something that will last till I die doesn't sound all that
bad when you think of it that way does it? (that includes the
backhoe work, pea stone and hoist)

Got to warn you though it goes in a 9' deep hole so people with water
table problems beware. The gas station I looked at it in had so much
water they wound up pumping and dredging untill it took a gravel
train to back fill around it, kept caving in. Just a thought :-) I
live on a hill and encountered no water at all and the walls stayed
nice and straight with no cave ins so the gas station is probably
what you call an exception but 9' is pretty deep and don't even think
about digging it by hand due to potential of cave-ins, very
dangerous.

I put a piece of plywood on both sides of the hole while he dug it
out with the back hoe to protect the edges of the hole and it was a
very good forsight, worked out very well but the unit is made as a
retrofit in concrete floors so the floor would do the same job in
that case. (which is what gave me the idea)

If anyone is seriously contemplating this email me off line and I
will fill you in on all the 20/20 hind sight. There's much more I
can tell you about all this :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 15:19:26 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana 60 front

BDIJXS aol.com wrote:
>
> Hey OX,
>
>...I've seen two types of stock lower plates, and one
> type is quite a bit thicker and beefier than the other. Other than being
> thicker, I think they are the same.

Make it three I guess. The plates I got with the 79 front dana 44 I
put in as my second axle had much closer spacing between the spring
plate mounting bolts than my 78 radius arms. I had the thick one's, but
they rusted out enough to allow the edge of plate to bend. Chalk one up
for TTB as they mount right on top of traction beam and spring tapers
down to real small dia spring wrap on lower end of spring.

> get the heads of the spring retainer bolts to square up when they were
> tightened?

I had 2-3/4 drop downs and 4" lift, so it was close. Then I went to
6" lift and now have them bowing slightly towards the front. This does
not bother me nearly as much as the 1 inch bowing out to the side that I
had. I imagine I could put a small spacer on front mount bolt (under
pad) and even it back out.

>
> Also, regarding brake lines, are you still running one drop-down hose and
> splitting from the top of the diff,

Yes, in fact I left it there all hooked up when I pulled axle. Just have
to hook up banjo's to calipers and figure out some way to hold long run
on passenger 60 axle tube and I'm done with that.

> The 3/4 ton 4x4's I have seen all go with the latter setup,
> which is what I ended up doing.

Yes, I noticed that on the F-250 I just got.

>I made some brackets that go directly off the
> bottom of the frame between the spring tower and rear shock (assuming you have
> quad shocks) and made my connection there. I think it's going to work pretty
> good. Your Bronco proportioning valve probably has a spare inlet that is
> blocked off with a plug.
>
> Sounds like a great project, now I'm jealous with my little 44.....
>

I only did it due to the tire wheel package I am going to run, which
will be 170lb each. Otherwise, I would have gone 8 lug, 44, as I have
not had bad luck with 44 front and 38" tires.

OX

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:25:36 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"

At 02:58 PM 6/4/98 +0000, you wrote:
>If anyone is seriously contemplating this email me off line and I
>will fill you in on all the 20/20 hind sight. There's much more I
>can tell you about all this :-)
>
>78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
>78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
>78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!
>
>-- Gary --

Gary, why not write something up for the tech articles area of the web site?

Keith

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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:24:03 EDT
From: RDbanesjr aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - to eldon in alexandria, va

just got thru reading your post on brakes and u mentioned the formed floor
mats from J. C. Whitney. did u mean the rubber floor mat or actuall sheet
metal. i've been thinking about ordering the sheet metal floor pan for my
truck but was wanting to talk to someone who already has first, i want to find
out if its worth it or not, if it was the rubber mat did it have the emblem
(gear with lighting bolt) in the center? i need that also
thanks,
dug
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:27:32 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"

> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 12:25:36 -0700
> From: Keith Srb
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tranny "jack"

> Gary, why not write something up for the tech articles area of the
> web site?

Sounds like a winner to me :-) Send it to you when I get it roughed
in?

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:36:25 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fw: auction in Pa. Big block bonanza

Forwarded with permission, Thought someone might get in on this, pick me up
a Lincoln while you are there.. Really

John

- ----------
> From: Chris Slaw
> Attention Big Block Shoppers!!!
> Saw an ad for Lester Smith estate auction in Schwenksville Pa.-- no
minimums,
> no reserves. Saturday 6/13 9:00am. Included in list are:
> '60 Lincoln, '64 Ford, (2) '67 Lincoln Continentals, '68 Dodge, '69
Lincoln
> Mark II, '70 Thunderbird. (28) '73-'94 Lincolns and Cads.
>
> Ad states over 180 automobiles and collector cars will be sold.
> This guy must have had a damn big garage!
>
> Contact Hunyady auctions, (800) 233-6898
>
> -CJS

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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 14:55:12 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rant

>>Hell for 22,500 I could have the badest, the prettest, the shiniest the
>Che_y eatenest 65F100 that ever tore up these Texas roads. The heck with
>the new stuff. I'm not impressed. ABout the car. I got an extra stick
>or two of TNT if your insurance is paid up(Only kidding) (Actually it's
>C-4).

My point exactly.
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 13:14:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rednecks/Junkyard

> Sure do. In between Lilburn and Lawrenceville, northeast of
> Atlanta. I'll be heading out to the junk yard this weekend.
>
> Ken


Ken,

If you're still heading out to the junkyard, I could use your help
locating some parts. I'm looking for some motor mounts off an FE in a
65-66 F250.

I'll need them for the 390 (out of a 61 tbird) I'm putting in my '63
F100.

Thanks,

Dan
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 15:59:00 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rant

> I know this is not 61-79 content but just can't resist, sorry.
> I have the Mercury version of the Contour, the Mystique also a '95.
> When did the cooling fan go out? Mine just turned over to 79,000 this
> morning.
> I am in almost exactly the same spot as far as the payoff and worth.
>
> Have you had any problems with a miss under a load, like going up a hill
> or
> when lugging it? I have replaced the plug wires three times, now. The
> first time, I ran
> about a dozen bottles of the injector cleaner thru it, changed the
> plugs($4.00 each!)
> and finally changed the wires. The wires fixed it. It started doing it
> again about
> 5,000 miles later. Changed the wires again and it stopped it again.
> This last set was not more than 3 months old. Any ideas?

Sorry about the non-FTE content guys. I'll do this one, but from here on
e-mail me privately.

The fan went out at 58,000 miles. No warning. It's scary too as that if
you don't watch the guage alot you won't know it till it's too late.
SWMBO just about made a doorstop out of it.

No miss yet so I can't comment here. The performance has been great.
Just costly.

I just wish I'd done what I wanted to do in the first place, get a
another '68 Mustang with a c-4 and AC for her to drive. I'd have been
miles ahead by now!
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 15:26:35 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Was 400 timing now FE

> I run a vac and always will on street engines no matter how hopped up
> I build them simply for drivability and economy. These guys that say
> they run fine without one don't know what they are missing, trust me.
> The vac in no way interferes with an engine's ability to make power
> or rev since at WOT it's out of the loop anyway. If you are not
> using a vac then I can see how you may need more initial to make it
> run halfway decent on the street, if you are maybe it's not working
> right and needs some TLC?

No, I have a good vacuam advance running ported(venturi)vacuam. The
centrifugalweights are free, and has a very smooth consistant power
curve (no apparent spikes or flat spots) It runs great, but only with
all of that timing. I've considered switching to manifold vacuam for the
advance. I've always run venturi, because my 390's of the past were 9.5
to 1 or better and rattled like a maraca on manifold vacuam and went
flat at light load. That's why I use venturi. Please tell me more, I am
gaining a little more understanding of the processes involved.

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 15:15:15 -0600
From: Rab Rawlins
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Crew cab beds

Is the bed for a crew cab (1977) a one off or will any other bed fit?
And if anyone has the address of the VIN decoder I would appreciate it.

Thanks

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 16:51:23 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Was 400 timing now FE Cams

>
> The cam spec can affect the timing because of it's influence on
> cylinder pressure among other things. I don't know the spec's on my
> cam in the 460 but I know it has a .500 or .520 lift and is RV so
> probably 12 degree lobe separation and somewhat less than 284
> duration and is probably dual pattern but I'm only guessing. These
> are good specs for low end torque from what I've been told. 284 is
> getting real close to racing specs and I would think is too much for
> a truck application unless you like high speeds etc..

I agree that this is too much exhaust duration for my application. A
funny thing was discovered about FE's in general a while back. They
don't need as much exhaust duration as was once thought. The port flows
a lot better than it really should from looking at it. Keep in mind that
the exhaust port dimension is very little different from 352 all the way
up to the Tunnel-Port. That's a pretty good port in my book. I don't
think that a split pattern is any good on this engine. My opinion, of
course. I put 2 in pipes turning out behind the rear wheels with OEM
style Walker truck mufflers and actually picked up considerably over
glass packs and rear axle dumps, so I think it was a little too free on
the exhaust side.

I'd like to have a 268 degree and .520 lift cam in mine . I think it
would really belch it out. More info, come on, Dog you want a piece of
this too, I can hear you mumbling over there.

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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 15:33:12 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: cooling fans

>Did you manage to make some kind of full coverage shroud for yours?
>Someone made his own out of sheet metal and used dual fans, was that
>you?

Yeah, I cut some flat pieces of aluminum to fill the corner areas
outside the fans and the 2 spaces between the fans. They were quite
simple to make. To tell the truth tho, I took the shroud pieces off
shortly after installation so I could do some stuff and I've never
put them back on. I seem to have plenty adequate cooling without them
but I'll put them back on someday...

If You goto: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/truck/fansx.jpg
You can see the fan mounting arangement and where the shrouds should go.
The fan mounting was extremely simple, and I would have spent more time
trying to use the stock shroud than to make the few simple parts
to do my own.

> I think you said you had to push rather than pull also right?

No, mine pull. I would rather have done pushers, but there wasn't
quite enough room.

>Way I see it the shroud is already there and out of the way so why not
>use it?

For me it was easier to make mt own setup than to screw around trying
to find a decent fan to fit the stock shroud and then figure out how
to attach it to the shroud.
Go look at the picture, making the mounts was just *way* too easy. (-:

Steve
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:53:12 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Was 400 timing now FE Cams

i musta missed something. wut a ya talking about???? that mumbling you
heard about how i can't get enough lift in my old motor to get a roller in
it or even a big solid.

thinking about running it one more year in my new truck to give more time
to build my new monster.

that's what i was mumbling about!

sleddog

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Subject: FTE 61-79 - Was 400 timing now FE Cams


I'd like to have a 268 degree and .520 lift cam in mine . I think it
would really belch it out. More info, come on, Dog you want a piece of
this too, I can hear you mumbling over there.

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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 22:29:06 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rednecks/Junkyard

At 01:14 PM 6/4/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> Sure do. In between Lilburn and Lawrenceville, northeast of
>> Atlanta. I'll be heading out to the junk yard this weekend.
>>
>> Ken
>
>
>Ken,
>
>If you're still heading out to the junkyard, I could use your help
>locating some parts. I'm looking for some motor mounts off an FE in a
>65-66 F250.
>
>I'll need them for the 390 (out of a 61 tbird) I'm putting in my '63
>F100.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan

Added to my list. I'm not going to actually get anything for you
guys this weekend, merely see if the requested parts are there and
then get some prices (you have to get prices before you pull anything).
I'll report back.

Ken Payne

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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 23:35:36 EDT
From: GMPACHECO aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine

Just ran into a friend of mine and he wants to sell a engine out of a Ford
Mustang cobra, it has 30k on it but is needs rings and the hole nine yards, my
question is should I offer him a couple bills for it and try to rebuild it ?
Also would this be too much work to put into my 72' F-100 ?

Mike in Seattle
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 21:19:50 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine

At 11:35 PM 6/4/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Just ran into a friend of mine and he wants to sell a engine out of a Ford
>Mustang cobra, it has 30k on it but is needs rings and the hole nine yards, my
>question is should I offer him a couple bills for it and try to rebuild it ?
>Also would this be too much work to put into my 72' F-100 ?

Uhhh, '93..? Refresh my memory, is this a 5.0 liter or that 4.6 turkey?
Why does it need rings and the fixins at only 30K miles? That seems a
little odd...

Steve
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 00:30:49 EDT
From: GMPACHECO aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine

Its a 5.0, oh a young kid bot it and just toasted it from day one...


Mike in Seattle
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 02:42:57 -0500
From: "Bear"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - New tinted windshield

Where do you get that from and how do I contact them? My windshield has
been cracked for about a year now and if I can get a tinted one I will fix
it real soon.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 9:01 PM
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Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Junkyard flunky - resolution

I'm just going to go with a new one. I can get a new tinted
window for $130-$140.

Ken

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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:46:17 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint

Well, the radio in my girlfriends '67 Galaxie died a while back
and I just got done repairing it.
Now I'm looking to do a little cosmetic touch-up on it and I need
some of that flourescent orange paint that Ford used on the needles
of most gauges. Does anyone know where to get any touch-up paint that
matches closely?

Steve
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:04:22 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint

You might try a craft store. You could probably find some poster type paint
that closely matches tho' it might not be the same stuff they use on the
gauges. BTW that's waaaay too....oh never mind! ;-)

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> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint
> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 12:46 PM
>
> Well, the radio in my girlfriends '67 Galaxie died a while back
> and I just got done repairing it.
> Now I'm looking to do a little cosmetic touch-up on it and I need
> some of that flourescent orange paint that Ford used on the needles
> of most gauges. Does anyone know where to get any touch-up paint that
> matches closely?
>

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 14:10:18 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Radiator Flush

Hello all

Does anybody believe in using Radiator Flush when changing anti-freeze, ( I
wonder if I just opened another snake oil debate?).

Man this list is dead today.


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Mesa, AZ
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air
Cleaner, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box Style Side.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:50:39 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Radiator Flush

From: Keith Srb
>Does anybody believe in using Radiator Flush when changing anti-freeze,
( I
>wonder if I just opened another snake oil debate?).

I did once. It was right after I brought my little mule home. All I
can say is DON"T DO IT :) I lost my water outlet and water pump right
off the bat. It thinned down the freeze plugs but they lasted a few more
years. It got rid of all the corrosion all right, unfortunately most of
that corrosion was my cooling system. :)
I think if you use it form the start there'd be no problem but first
time on a 25 year old engine was a bad thing, a very bad thing! :)
Later!

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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:47:24 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint

mayne the paint used for plastic models like revel and monogram. testors
paint is one brand. a craft or hobby store should have it. how close in
color i don't know.

sleddog


> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint
> Date: Friday, June 05, 1998 12:46 PM
>
> Well, the radio in my girlfriends '67 Galaxie died a while back
> and I just got done repairing it.
> Now I'm looking to do a little cosmetic touch-up on it and I need
> some of that flourescent orange paint that Ford used on the needles
> of most gauges. Does anyone know where to get any touch-up paint that
> matches closely?
>

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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:54:49 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - dead list

since the list is so quiet i thought i'd give you something to read. so
whether or not you really care, i am getting my new pull truck tomorrow!
can't wait!

this time i should't be breaking all those suspension/driveline parts i
have been for the last few years. got a dana 60 front and a corporate 14
bolt rear (i know, chevy parts, but it works better than any axle ford ever
made. i don't consider dana a ford part as it is not a ford company. al 3
brands use dana stuff)

a well built c6, a hood scoop (prepubescant {sp?} i know, but hey, half the....


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