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61-79-list-digest Friday, May 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 318 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - 68 F100 questions (semi long) Re: FTE 61-79 - virtual motors Re: FTE 61-79 - virtual motors Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Ranchero list? FTE 61-79 - Steering wheel Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering wheel FTE 61-79 - Re: Ranchero List Re: FTE 61-79 -Steering Wheel Restoration was Att. Gary Bowling FTE 61-79 - FE timing question Re: FTE 61-79 - Rednecks/Junkyard Re: FTE 61-79 - Rednecks/Junkyard FTE 61-79 - 460 replacing an FE Re: FTE 61-79 - non FTE FTE 61-79 - 62 F100, Elec. Problems Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 in 85 bronco Re: FTE 61-79 - headers for f150 4x4 with 429 FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302 Re: FTE 61-79 - brake probs FTE 61-79 - Guage Help FTE 61-79 - 70 F100 S/B 2wd Re: FTE 61-79 - Guage Help FTE 61-79 - SWMBO [none] FTE 61-79 - Re: Clutch Chatter FTE 61-79 - Att. Gary Bowling ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 18:24:30 EDT From: BDIJXS Subject: FTE 61-79 - 68 F100 questions (semi long) Hi Mark, I'll try to tackle a few of your questions: 3. How should I handle the wiring on this truck? I'm trying to figure out why someone would change the steering column, must have been a transmission swap when they put in the engine as well. I'll bet its out of the same approximate year truck, but a stick shift (if the original was auto) or an auto (if the original was a stick). Either way, you can still get the steering column wiring harnesses from junkyards (seems a lot of junkyards carry these, but brand new in the packages), Obsolete Ford and a bunch of other places. You might pull off your steering wheel and see whats there, then see if the replacement unit looks the same. I don't think this job is a lot of fun, but it might cure whatever smoking problems you may have had. Of course, this would be a waste of time if all the turn signals, horn, and other accessories all work. Look under the dash and see if you can find some burnt wires.....might want to replace or at least cover them up... 4. What can be done about the play in the steering? A good way to nail down where the play is coming from is to fire up the engine, have a friend steer the wheel from left to right (just a few inches each way) while you crawl under and around and see where the slop is. Once you find it, we can go from there. For example, you steering box should have some adjustment in it, or a ragjoint (between the steering box and the firewall on the steering shaft) may be shot....let us know what you see... 5. What should be done abou the brakes? Couple of ways to go here....do you feel confident in working on them yourself? If so, pull apart one axle at a time and inspect everything, you may need new brake shoes and have the drums turned. Also check to see if there is any brake fluid on the drums, and indication of a bad wheel cylinder. I'm not sure how easy it is to find new brake drums for these if you need them, but I'm sure somebody here does... This isn't much help, but at least its a start....let us know how it goes! Colorado Jeff P.S.: Hope you didn't start another FE vs. 385 war with your engine swapping question..... = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:54:05 -0700 From: sdelanty Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - virtual motors >I must have missed it, what web page for the animated engine ?? That would be mine. It's nothun spectacular but it's kinda cute and since it's my first attempt I'm kinda proud of it... (-: Thanks to Deacon for the help with it! Address below... Steve Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/ Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation leans on the doorbell. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:54:07 -0700 From: sdelanty Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - virtual motors >My mistake, it is animated. Didn't wait long enough for all the junk >to load I guess. Pretty cool Steve :-) Whew, You had me worried! I thought I was gonna have to take my virtual toolbox and virtual gas can and go fix it... (-: >You'd still be trying to figure it out on Auto Cad 14..........:-) I'd love to try, but AutoCAD 14 was way out of my price range... )-: Turbo CAD v4 was over $300 cheaper and since I've never used any CAD system until 9 days ago, I really didn't know quite what to expect from one. I'm very impressed with it so far. I've spent about 30 hours using it so far, so the learning curve is real steep right now and I'm having *lot's* of fun! (-: FWIW, on paper the "motor" had the following dimensions: 217.9 CID V-8 (Or 54.5 CID V-twin..) 3.40" bore 3.00" stroke 5.00" connecting rod 1.60" rod big end journal diameter 0.60" " small end " " 1.10" piston compression height The origional animated drawing is big (about 640 x 480 pixels) and has 16 frames, in 22.5 degree rotation increments. I may post it to another page and put a link to it. It's slow to rotate but that's cool cuz it gives a chance to see what the pistons and rods are doing in 22.5 degree increments. TurboCAD will also calculate the rod angles and how far down the pistons are for each stage. CAD is pretty cool, I'll bet I can use it to help design all kinds of weird new junk for my F100. (-: Steve Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/ Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation leans on the doorbell. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:54:10 -0700 From: sdelanty Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Ranchero list? >> power, but Ihate to see the knowledge base get split up too >> much... >You and I have time to deal with the traffic but some do not so will >give up the pool in the hopes of getting an answer from one of their >own type with less Deacon and Gary and Jerry (bronco list) cluttering >up the mail box. Yeah, I agree it can get a little overwhelming for me sometimes too, but I've learned to use DEL a lot more lately also. The hard thing about that is that subjects stray and soon the subject header and the actual post have nothing to do with each other... It helps if we can all try and make it a practice to change the subject header when threads change topic... Steve Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/ Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation leans on the doorbell. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 16:39:33 -0700 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering wheel I'm thinking about refurbing the steering wheel on my 76. It has a leather/vinyl texture band that circles the horn button. This texture is cast into the plastic/resin of the steering wheel and if I fill the cracks would like to reproduce the texture in those areas. Does anyone have any good ideas how to do it? I have considered sanding down the textured area to simply remove it from the wheel and make the repair simpler, but I don't think I would like the results. I guess I could try it on another wheel and see if I like it. I would really rather figure out how to reproduce this texture. TIA Tom H. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:09:18 -0700 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Steering wheel I bought a vinyl repair kit once that came with several small pieces of plastic that had different textures cast into them to reproduce various vinyl patterns. All you did was press the piece of plastic into the goop after you spread it on the hole/cut/tear and pulled it off after it dried. I bought the kit at a local auto parts store and while it didn't work for sh*t on the vinyl repairs you could probably find a texture close to what you need. Sorry I can't remember the brand name, it was quite a few dead brain cells ago! - ---------- > From: Hogan, Tom > To: '61-79-list > Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering wheel > Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 4:39 PM > > I'm thinking about refurbing the steering wheel on my 76. It has a > leather/vinyl texture band that circles the horn button. This texture is > cast into the plastic/resin of the steering wheel and if I fill the cracks > would like to reproduce the texture in those areas. Does anyone have any > good ideas how to do it? I have considered sanding down the textured area > to simply remove it from the wheel and make the repair simpler, but I don't > think I would like the results. I guess I could try it on another wheel and > see if I like it. I would really rather figure out how to reproduce this > texture. > = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:59:27 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Ranchero List >Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Ranchero list? >Anyone here think a Ranchero list would be a good idea? There is already a Fairlane, Ranchero & Torino list in operation if anyone is interested. To s*bscribe go to: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dfwmotorsport.com/Fairlane Chuck Colvin http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.CoolRides.com/CR001.html = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:41:36 -0400 From: "Kristen Marcellus" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 -Steering Wheel Restoration was Att. Gary Bowling Marko wrote: >Anyway, the wheel from my 67 is perfect, but as Ford was prone to do, it >has been painted. I was thinking about the best way to remove the paint. I tried glass >beading a >spot but the bead just bounced off. I tried a bit of thinners and they >worked, but that would probly do some serious damage to the plastic >underneath. I was thinking stripper may work but with the same problem of >stripping out the oils in the plastic underneath. What about sanding? is >that what you did? What papers did you use? Can you send me some info? My husband builds plastic models as a hobby and uses car paint on them. If the paint job isn't to his liking, he removes it with Easy-off oven cleaner. It doesn't seem to harm the plastic as long as you don't leave it on too long (he's not home so I can't ask him the time span). Just remember to ventilate the area well when you're using it. Kristen (MrsSlix66 = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:50:43 -0400 From: William King Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE timing question Quick question (this is an easy one!). I just dropped an Edelbrock carb onto my 68 360 FE. Which vacum fitting do I hook the distributor up to (it is a stock distributor)? Does the distributor need vacum at idle or not? Ohio Bill William R. King Acting Director Criminal Justice Program Bowling Green State University Bowling Green, OH 43403 (419) 372-0373 (office) (419) 372-8089 (fax) = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:51:55 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rednecks/Junkyard i'm about 40 miles south of atlanta,about 10 miles from I-75 jeff grant griffin,ga. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:56:49 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rednecks/Junkyard dan,forget my last post,i wasn't paying any attention.i thought you were mailing me,i didn't know someone else in georgia was selling ford parts. jeff grant griffin,ga. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:00:17 -0400 From: "Melayne Arnold" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 replacing an FE Azie seems to be the person to ask about 460 swaps as he has done quite a few. I'm on my third one now so I'll add my 2 cents. Its not very difficult as most fords are designed to be flexible but I have run into a couple of problems with 460's. 1.) motor mounts Unless you're into making your own mounts, FOMOCO or L&L seem to be the best way to go. I've tried every combination I could think of to avoid paying the high dollar for these but nothing I've found would work. I've found if you mate the engine and transmission, put them in together, then bolt in the transmission tail so your stock drive shaft fits, the front mounts will line up on the frame where they need to be. You might have to drill new holes or weld the towers in but they will fit right. 2.)oil pans If you use the three piece motor mounts the engine will sit so that a front sump oil pan has plenty of clearence from the crossmember, but, be aware of where your drain plug is before you put it together. Most car pans have the drain plug on the side, which causes a mess on trucks (thread being discussed thoroughly on site now). I use these oil pans (cheap at junk yard), but before I install them I drill a new drain hole in the front and fit it with a plug. 3.)exhaust manifolds If you want to use standard manifolds that's fine. If the engine came out of a car the driver's side manifold will fit, but, the passenger side will overlap the frame about an inch and a half. Some people just notch their frame enough to bolt the exhaust on, but I'm a chicken I guess, this is way to close to the motor mount and the torque the frame must withstand to be cutting on IMHO. You have a couple of options, hunt the junk yards for a 460 "truck" manifold (they come straight down from the exhaust and hug the block more), these are fairly common but they do seem to be getting harder to find, or a good set of headers (Stan's Tri-Y's?). These are problems that are easily overcome, just a pain in the butt when you first encounter them. I'm no auto guru, but even I feel fairly comfortable with this swap now Plus if you do put in the 460 you'll never look back and say "I just wish it had more power". Good Luck. The best advice I can give is holler real loud "HELP!!!" to the list if you run into problems. They'll no doubt read this and correct anything I've put in wrong, that's the only way I feel confident in even giving advice. Stoney = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:07:06 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - non FTE you're right = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:10:09 -0700 From: mitzm Subject: FTE 61-79 - 62 F100, Elec. Problems I just found this list. Sounds like lots of good info. I've got a 62 F100 stepside that is a total stripper, six, 3 on the tree etc. The problem is that the turn signal wiring is all screwed up. A shop did some dickin around with it years ago and I've messed it up further trying to get it straightened out. I want to replace the switch (the lever is stripped out) and hook it all up right once and for all. Does anybody have a copy of the wiring diagram they could snail mail me or is there one posted somewhere? How do you replace the the switch? (I'm stumped on how to remove the horn button). Is there a FAQ for this type of stuff? Thanks, Mitzm Mitzm = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:27:58 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 in 85 bronco you're better off to locate a 69 -71 model 351w,the 69 was the only one offered with a 4 barrel and it was factory rated at 290 hp,which is generaly rated lower than it actualy is.an early model engine has better compression and head design.about the only mods i would recommend are,port the exhaust ports on the heads,blend in the pockets on the intake side,a good dual plane aluminum intake,a mild rv type cam,lifters and matching springs,headers,and a balanced engine is nice. i always like to go hog wild with a die grinder and a rotary file,deburing and polishing the crank,the rods,the lifter valley,the top of the heads,any thing to make the oil flow back to the pan faster.its not really worth the efforts on a pure street engine,but it doesn't hurt either. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:32:15 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - headers for f150 4x4 with 429 i have a 78 ford f150 with a 429 pi,can anyone recommend an in expensive set of headers for this combo,the 29 or 60 was not offered in a f150,i have been told hooker makes a set,but they're 350.00 plus,i'm looking for a set of 150- 200.00 headers. thanks for any info. jeff grant griffin,ga. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:10:22 -0700 From: "Deacon" Subject: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302 First I'd like to add my 2 cents on: From: Ken >If I play list God, people leave. If I let the list get out of >control, people leave. I have to walk the fine line between the >two extremes. What makes it even more difficult is that many >people on the list are my friends. As a member, friend and a person who has abused the leniency given this list, I will try to scale down my posting and stop my off topic post. It shouldn't take a warning message or being placed on a taboo list to keep a friend in line. If it happens to me I'd know whom to blame. As far as the solution you have imposed, I say it's as fair as any solution could be, so I fully agree with it's implementation. Now for some FTE content. I just finished helping a friend install a Cobra upper and GT-40 lower intake on his '94 Mustang. He gave me his stock upper and lower manifold and also a 60mm throttle body. I have hopes of one day putting this on my '73 F100 302. With all the parts I need to collect, the project is a ways down the road. I will try and pick up most of the parts at the junkyard. I understand the same intake is use on Tbirds so it should make things easier to find. Did Effies running EFI 5.0s use the same intakes? Aside from the O2 sensors in the exhaust it looked to me that the other sensors are located in the air cleaner, mass air unit (I think that's what it's called) and the throttle body. The fuel rails, injectors, wiring harness, electric fuel pump, fuel presure regulator and EEC are also needed to do this. I think I may also need to change my ignition system. Does the EEC interact with the TFI ignition module? If I used an MSD ignition module in place of the TFI module could I still use my existing distributor and coil. If I need to use a new distributor how can I tell the difference between a roller blocks and non-roller blocks. I would like to hear what people think of doing this. Not just the tech gurus but anyone. Once the parts are collected it's not that much work putting it together or mounting the control modules. Theoretically it should increase bottom end and get better mileage. Most of all look berry berry cool! No matter what kind of point you would like to make, I'd like to hear it. If you have tech info both +\- I want to hear it most of all. TIA Later! Deacon deconblu ============================= Nuke GM and the unborn baby whales. ============================= Deacon's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/ = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:43:00 -0700 From: "Deacon" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - brake probs From: >dug in louisiana >i use to have to pump the brakes in my truck due to air in the lines i know >i need to bleed the brakes). lately the brakes have improved, on their own. >How come? i checked the wheel cylinders and no fluid is leaking out. did the >air make it back up to the master cylinder? Can anybody explain this one? An air bubble will move around in the line and with the MC being at the highest point the air bubble can find it's way to it and escape on it's own. The air bubble can get into a high point in the line where there's not enough movement in the fluid to escape. I would never count on the air bubble to escape on it's own and would never let brakes that needed to be pumped go without fixing. If something was to happen where you needed to make an emergence stop, chances are your brain wouldn't let your foot pump the brake peddle. Instead your foot would go to the floor and stay there. Deacon deconblu ============================= Nuke GM and the unborn baby whales. ============================= Deacon's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/ = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 03:04:41 -0400 From: Tony Marino Subject: FTE 61-79 - Guage Help Hey all- All of the guages in my '70 F-100 don't work, and I've tried two other dashes without luck. I would like to test the sending units to find out wether the problem is in the wiring, or in the actual sensors themselves, so I was wondering if somebody could give me the Ohm, Volt, or whatever range for the Temp, Oil Pressure, and Fuel guage sending units. Thanks a bunch! Tony tony www.pscico.com/~tony = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 03:35:35 -0400 From: "Rogers" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 70 F100 S/B 2wd New to the list, thank you, thank you! Five years ago, I moved my sweetheart from the the warm and airy clime of Mississippi to the cruel harsh SALTY winters of Michigan. Even though I only drove her 1 winter in these conditions, everytime I look at her underbelly I want to cry. Is there an economical, earth friendly, non-lethal method that anyone has used that will rid my sweetheart of underbody corrosion?? Also, are the harmonic dampeners on 289 and early 302 engines the same? Are the pulley dimensions the same? I transplanted a 289 engine into the vehicle from a 69 Galaxie 500. This was rebuilt with a short block 302 and now I have an engine vibration that goes away at about 40 mph. The engine is attached to a Ford 3-spd transmission. One last thing I'd like to find out about is whether I can transplant disc brakes to this truck from another vehicle. Regards, Rogers rbmii = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:49:44 -0700 From: "Deacon" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Guage Help From: Tony Marino >All of the guages in my '70 F-100 don't work, and I've tried two other >dashes without luck. I would like to test the sending units to find out >wether the problem is in the wiring, or in the actual sensors themselves, >so I was wondering if somebody could give me the Ohm, Volt, or whatever >range for the Temp, Oil Pressure, and Fuel guage sending units. Thanks a >bunch! I can't give you any tech stuff but I do think your looking in the wrong places. It would be unlikely that all the sending units have gone bad. Each gauge will more than likely have one wire that is common to all three gauges and that would be the wire that is giving you the problem. The common wire would probably supply power and the other supply a ground by connecting to the sending unit. To test this you could check the common wire for current. If there is no current trace the wire back to where it originates. You may be able to fix it by running a wire from where it originates or has power to where it connects to the instrument panel. The continuity of a sending unit varies which enables it to move the indicator. So it wouldn't be possible to give you a unit of measure for testing. Deacon deconblu ============================= Nuke GM and the unborn baby whales. ============================= Deacon's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home1.gte.net/deconblu/ = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 04:09:15 -0500 From: "Bear" Subject: FTE 61-79 - SWMBO Can someone enlighten me on what "SWMBO" means? Thanks E-mail : bear269 Please view my home page at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.isl.net/~bear269/home = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 04:02:20 -0500 From: ballingr Subject: [none] > >> I have a 1978 F-150 with a 351 M. It seems that I have a miss when >> the motor is cold but when it is warm it is fine. The temp here is > >You need to get someone to help you tune the carb and get all the >parts working right including the choke, idle mixture, accellerator >pump and gaskets etc.. You could have some valve lash problems but >that's highly unlikely. Just a few thoughts here. My truck had bad ring seal when I first bought it especially #8 due to gas wash and wide piston clearances. It ran pretty fair when warm, but had a miss when cold. Stank of fuel to high heaven. I put on the Q-jet with a new fuel pump, and a good tune-up with BRF-42 plugs, new points, new coil, dist cap. I also swapped out the distributor from my '67 since the centrifugal advance was locked up. A 195 thermostat and 89 octane gas in a clean tank with new rubber sections of fuel line and filters, and blew out the metal line with air. I set the timing by a vacuam guage, because I think that the balancer is wrong. (25 degrees initial?)No ping or starter kickback and 16 hg of vacuam. Then I drove it like I was breaking in a new engine. After about three weeks the miss went away. The blow-by dropped by half, but still has more than I think it should. Still a lot of piston noise, that won't go away of course. Number 8 shows a little oil consumption on the plug, but it runs strong. The improvement is 100% from where it was when I limped it home. I'm almost satisfied with it. As Gary and others have said before the state of tune is where to begin, it won't run with no chance to do so. This stuff is the best money you can spend. How many rigs have you seen with all the pretty chrome stuff under the hood, and a fat carb, no choke, and distributor without vacuam advance, and frozen centrifugal weights? They always say it has a big cam in it, but when you line it out it turns out to be stock or close to it, with 10 times more go. I've seen it more than I can stand. If you think that your cylinders are glazed, I've put a squirt of ATF in each cylinder and fired it up (use old plugs, and don't use too much or you'll possily create a hydraulic condition in one or more cylinders and bend something)the ATF will clean the crud off. I've also poured it slowly down the carb, got it smoking then drowned it out. Let it sit for 30 min, then ran it like running in a new engine (drive it under moderate load, speed up and slow down a few times till the smoke clears) You'll have to put in new plugs of course. Do it out in the open country or the Fire Dept will want to know where the burning house is. (lots of smoke) I plan to do this on mine before my next set of plugs. I've brought my share of whipped pups back to life, and these are the basics that I've used. Can anyone recommend anything else? Come on over to my Back Porch http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ldd.net/scribers/ballingr Ballinger ballingr = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 04:11:00 -0500 From: ballingr Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Clutch Chatter >ideas, but I have a sneaking suspicion the clutch release arm might be a >good place to start(I checked it and it looks pretty wobbly) My release arm is a little sloppy too, though with my new clutch I don't have any chatter(I know, I should have done it when I had it apart). Is there a trick that I could use to pull the arm without pulling the trans? Is there anything that needs to be done to the anchor in the bellhousing? I should fix this before it wrecks my clutch. 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