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61-79-list-digest Tuesday, May 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 307 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 wandering around Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Wheel Bearings Re: FTE 61-79 - What is it called? FTE 61-79 - Re: 1964 f-100 AKA "Cinderella" FTE 61-79 - 1965 F-100 overheating FTE 61-79 - RE: What is it called? Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating FTE 61-79 - What is it called? FTE 61-79 - 351M questions RE: FTE 61-79 - Bias and Radial tires FTE 61-79 - clutch chatter Re: FTE 61-79 - 1965 F-100 overheating Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating FTE 61-79 - California get together Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating FTE 61-79 - Long post on Carb Adapters... FTE 61-79 - seat swaps FTE 61-79 - 76 F-250 Re: FTE 61-79 - 462 Re: FTE 61-79 - getting sponsors FTE 61-79 - RE: Spare Tire Carrier FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called? FTE 61-79 - RE: Carb spacers & Turbo V8's Re: FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called? Re: FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called? ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 07:01:42, -0500 From: BBMZ31A Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 wandering around I ran bias on the front and radials on the rear for years with no problems. The tire shops I spoke with at that time advised not to run radials on the front and bias on the rear because of tracking problems. Mike. ____ Mike. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 08:07:22 -0400 From: luxjo Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Wheel Bearings Rob Patelke wrote: > > My F250 4x4 is developing a squeak that seems to come from the front wheel, > so decided to repack the bearings. This will be my first time working on a > 4wd front end, so I checked my service manual (Always read directions), and > the book says I gotta have tool "T59T-1197-B" which by the drawing looks to > be a giant socket wrench. > Anyone know what size this is? It's not a hex type socket. It has 4 square indentations that mesh with protrusions on "socket type" tool. They make one that works on dana 44 and dana 60 front ends. You prob have dana 44, but may have dana 60 (If pumpkin is the same size as one in back, you have optional dana 60 front). Get the tool that works on both and your set. >What they cost? 23-29$ >Any substitutes; NOPE!!! :-) OX = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 07:12:40 -0700 From: Randy Collins Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - What is it called? Your looking for a super cab TEA Lowrance, Shane wrote: > Hello, > > New to the list and have one question. I want to buy a '78-79 4 door 4x4 > F250 or F350. How is the 4 door model designated? I'm reading the > classifieds and I see Custom, Extended Cab, and Super Cab. Which one > would be the 4 door model? Or is it something completely different? Was > it designated as a Crew Cab back then also? Also I don't want a dually. > Any guidance would be appreciated. > > Shane I don't thinks so! If he is looking for a 4 door his would be looking for a crew cab. A Super Cab is a 2 door truck and a Custom is a trim level designation. Randy Collins Boise, Idaho rcollins 1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck" 460 SUPER COBRA JET Short Block Completed...Heads Sitting on the work bench! = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 08:28:33 -0500 From: tygre Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 1964 f-100 AKA "Cinderella" Does anyone out there have the technical schematics for this truck? I have the shop manual but I need more detailed information such as bolt sizes and visual perspective for reassembly. When I got the truck the previous owner had completly broken it down to diagnose the motor. What I was left with was cardboard boxes of scattered parts in the bed of the truck. I have had the 223 moter rebuilt and have reconditioned most of the other components. My problem is that I did not see the parts in their original places and I think I am missing several bolts and maybe even a few brackets. Can anyone help "Cinderella" dance again? = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 07:55:41 -0700 From: bertolina Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1965 F-100 overheating I have a 1965 F 100 with the original 240 in-line 6, original radiator and 3 speed manual transmission. I've not had this truck very long and so don't really have a baseline established. Is it normal for this engine to run hot? The temperature gauge on the instrument panel with normal driving goes clear over to the mark just before the "H". The gauge has been checked and appears to be accurate. When the radiator water is 180 degrees, the temp gauge registers half way in between cold and hot. As part of the troubleshooting that has already been done, the thermostat has been replaced, radiator flushed & inspected for blockage/restriction and water pump replaced. This truck has an aftermarket A/C on it that I would like to get working but with the truck already running on the hot side, I'm afraid it wouldn't tolerate that additional burden. I do plan to get a radiator shroud. Apparently, radiator shrouds were not part of the original equipment. The outside air temps have been around 70-80s but soon they will be running over 100. If running this hot is not normal, I'm looking for suggestions on what else can be done. Thanks, Roberta in Tucson, Arizona with rust free 1965 F100 custom cab long bed. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:26:58 -0400 From: "THE PAVIES'" Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: What is it called? *Shane- I'm pretty sure the 4door model has always been called a *crewcab. I used to have a supercab, which extended the cab about 18". *I think people call the supercab an extended cab also. Good luck *finding a crewecab in good shape! *AND JOHN MILLER - YES, I WILL REPLACE MY BIAS PLIES FOR RADIALS ASAP! *Thanks for the info and hopefully that will cure the problem. *Jack P. * 76 F250 360 C6 * 90 E150 300 C6 * 95 F350 7.3L Powerstroke 4wd Crewcab * and also 67 VW Bug * 61 VW Singlecab Bus * = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:10:31 -0700 From: Marko Maryniak Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating At 10:19 PM 22/05/98 -0700, you wrote: >Well, the cab is coming off my 61 F-100 4x4 today, and I will begin work >on the frame. I am going to box it in between the front two >crossmembers to support the 429, and add some bracketry for power >steering. I will also knock off the rear spring mounts because I am >going to flip the shackles. I would like to know if anyone had heard of >a process where the frame is dipped in some chemical to remove the rust >and tar. Also, is there anyone who does galvainizing or some other >coating that can get inside the boxed portion of the frame. > >Keep in mind that this is in muddy California, so you might also be able >to dissuade me from doing anything exotic. But I live in the mountains, >so it will see a bit of salty snow come winter. > >Birken T. Vogt - KE6DLT > Yeah, I just did it recently! You look up "Redi Strip" under 'metal cleaning' in your local yellow pages. They will chemically strip and de-rust the frame. They will also dip the frame in their zinc phosphate tank for an extra charge. Then you have two ways to go: powder coating (good but expensive, and doesn't always get the nooks and crannies) or painting with epoxy primer and then a really good industrial coating like Endura. If you use a wand gun you can paint the boxed portions of the frame too. marko in vancouver = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:38:45 -0500 From: John Strauss Subject: FTE 61-79 - What is it called? >TEA Lowrance, Shane wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> New to the list and have one question. I want to buy a '78-79 4 door 4x4 >> F250 or F350. How is the 4 door model designated? I'm reading the >> classifieds and I see Custom, Extended Cab, and Super Cab. Which one >> would be the 4 door model? Or is it something completely different? Was >> it designated as a Crew Cab back then also? Also I don't want a dually. >> Any guidance would be appreciated. >> >> Shane > >Your looking for a super cab > No, he is not. Shane, what you want is called a Crew Cab. A Super Cab only has 2 doors and then a "half" section behind the front seats. Sometimes those are also called Extended Cab, although that is really a Chevy term. What you want with 4 doors has always been called a CREW CAB for as long as I can remember. Also, you might look for "SRW" which means Single Rear Wheels, but most folks probably wouldn't know to put that in their add. Good luck, those are somewhat hard to find in the older years. _ _| ~~. John Strauss \, *_} jstrauss \( Texas Fight! = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:13:42 PDT From: "Chad Pasma" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351M questions Hi, I'm joining this list for the summer since I'm in school. I bought a 1979 F150 custom in January. This truck originally came from the factory with a 302 and 3 speed manual. The truck had already been converted to automatic when I bought it using factory parts (tilt column w/shifter). However the 302 shook badly and one day when I was trying to start it the carb lit up. I exchanged the engine and transmission with a 1978 351M and C6. The extra weight has highlighted the downfall of the I-beam front suspension (front wheels lean inwards) Can this be remedied by swapping out the front coils with the ones from the donor truck or do I need to get heavier shocks? Also, how do I tell if my torque converter is locking up properly or not? Sometimes even after driving for a while my choke seems to remain closed - I put it in neutral and it holds high revs. Any ideas as to what this could be? BTW the heat riser from the crossover is broken. My plan is to rebuild the five-oh after a year or so and put it back in with an OD transmission (or maybe 5 sp) if $$ allows. Thanks for your help. Chad ______________________________________________________ = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:25:50 -0700 From: "Jim Cron" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Bias and Radial tires Just to help whip this topic into submission I will dig into my "been there, done that, and sure was sorry" file to add a bit. Radial sidewalls flex more, bias sidewalls are really stiff. When you corner on radials you "drift" just a bit more than when on bias, but the traction is much better and the ride is great so as long as the front and rear drift about the same you go around in fine style. If the rear drifts more because you have bias on front and radials in the rear, you start into the corner and usually realise you have oversteered a bit because the radials let the rear end swing out a tad and so turn the truck farther than you had planned. Going down the road this happens for every little course correction, the radials always make the truck turn more than you wanted so you correct back, it overcorrects, soon you are whipping the wheel back and forth all down the road. Add load and it gets worse. For a thorough education on the matter, load the truck to max and you will learn all there is to know about radial flex, oversteer, unstable handling and ambulances. I had the combination on my work truck and with a full load was fine up to 40 or so, above that it was more than scary. I run bias all the way around now as I cannot find radials in the load range I need. Its a '74 F-250 with 6000 lb light weight, might be loaded with as much as 4000 lbs and pulls a 2 ton chipper. I run 12-16.5 8 ply on the back and get along OK. This rig badly needs duals, but then I badly need a new rig so we come out even. Jim Cron = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:31:55 PDT From: "gene gardner" Subject: FTE 61-79 - clutch chatter Greetings to all -- I've been on the list for over 6 months and had kind of thought I wouldn't post anything until I had an answer to someone's query, but everyone seems to know a lot more than me .. so, I guess I have to introduce myself with a problem instead of a solution. I've got a '70 F100 (2WD)with a remanufactured 300 CID. It's my daily driver and reliable as taxes but : the clutch has always chattered in first gear. I've replaced the clutch kit twice in 2 years, also refaced and balanced the flywheel, but the chatter always returns after temporary improvements. It's as if the clutchplate is either not making good contact on the flywheel, or it's not flush to it. I don't know much about clutches (except they're supposed to be fairly problem free!): what's the deal here? Thanks in advance, and love the list! Gene Gardner genegow Hermosillo, Mexico (by way of West Texas) PS: I'm another teacher, but I can't replace Stu ... ______________________________________________________ = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 02:21:39 -0700 From: Keith Srb Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1965 F-100 overheating At 07:55 AM 5/25/98 -0700, you wrote: >I have a 1965 F 100 with the original 240 in-line 6, original radiator >and 3 speed manual transmission. I've not had this truck very long and so >don't really have a baseline established. Is it normal for this engine >to run hot? The temperature gauge on the instrument panel with normal >driving goes clear over to the mark just before the "H". The gauge has >been checked and appears to be accurate. When the radiator water is 180 >degrees, the temp gauge registers half way in between cold and hot. As >part of the troubleshooting that has already been done, the thermostat >has been replaced, radiator flushed & inspected for blockage/restriction >and water pump replaced. This truck has an aftermarket A/C on it that I >would like to get working but with the truck already running on the hot >side, I'm afraid it wouldn't tolerate that additional burden. I do plan >to get a radiator shroud. Apparently, radiator shrouds were not part of >the original equipment. The outside air temps have been around 70-80s >but soon they will be running over 100. If running this hot is not >normal, I'm looking for suggestions on what else can be done. >Thanks, Roberta in Tucson, Arizona with rust free 1965 F100 custom cab >long bed. In AZ, Yes you truck will run hot. I live in Mesa AZ and have a 66 F-100 with the 240 and a four speed. So far I have replaced my stock radiator with a 3 core unit, added a home made fan shroud, neither of which had helped. When the temperature gets over 100, and I am sitting in traffic, my temperature gauge will register 220-230 degrees. If and when I hit all of the stop lights when they are green, or am on the freeway, the temperature hovers around the 200 degree mark or above. I have a small thermometer in the cab and it is not unusual for the temperature in the cab to hit 140 degrees in the summer time here. The other thing that I want to try, is to replace the four bladed stock fan with a five or six blades flex fan to see if this will draw some more air over the radiator. If you do find anything else that works, please let me know. Thanks! Keith Srbherbie Mesa, AZ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie/ 1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed. 1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up. 1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side. 1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box. My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!" = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 02:24:58 -0700 From: Keith Srb Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating At 10:10 AM 5/25/98 -0700, you wrote: snip > >Then you have two ways to go: powder coating (good but expensive, and >doesn't always get the nooks and crannies) or painting with epoxy primer >and then a really good industrial coating like Endura. If you use a wand >gun you can paint the boxed portions of the frame too. > > >marko in vancouver Marko, Who Makes Endura? Keith Srbherbie Mesa, AZ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie/ 1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed. 1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up. 1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side. 1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box. My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!" = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 03:02:47 -0700 From: Keith Srb Subject: FTE 61-79 - California get together Hello List Members, There has been some discussion the 61-79 list of having a get together somewhere in California. At this point in time, I do not know where, or when it would take place. Right now I am trying to gather some information so we can try and pick a date and location for the get together. So, I need your help. Question one. I would like to know how many people would be willing to attend this get together, if they can. Question two. Can anyone suggest a time and place in California that we could have this get together. It would be nice if we can do this in conjunction with some other Truck event that is happening then. Such as a Truck show, swap meet or something. Would you please email me privately, to help keep the list traffic down, at herbie the city you reside in with your response. This information will be kept confidential. Thank you ! Keith Srbherbie Mesa, AZ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie/ 1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed. 1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up. 1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side. 1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box. My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!" = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:19:20 -0700 From: Marko Maryniak Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating At 02:24 AM 12/05/98 -0700, you wrote: >At 10:10 AM 5/25/98 -0700, you wrote: >snip >> >>Then you have two ways to go: powder coating (good but expensive, and >>doesn't always get the nooks and crannies) or painting with epoxy primer >>and then a really good industrial coating like Endura. If you use a wand >>gun you can paint the boxed portions of the frame too. >> >> >>marko in vancouver > >Marko, > >Who Makes Endura? > Endura is made, so far as I can tell, by Endura Manufacturing Ltd. of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Endura is a non-porous highly resilient industrial paint which basically does not chip, or crack and has excellent weatherability. It is THE paint for coating, for example, oilfield equipment and marine equipment. Endura comes in a zillion colors including black, and you can get semigloss or even semi-semigloss, for chassis applications. Now that I've looked on the internet, it seems Endura is also made by the US company in California. Check out this website: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netsv.com/endura/ ok? marko in vancouver marko = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:07:57 -0500 From: "Dale and Donna Carmine" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Long post on Carb Adapters... Chris, I hope that you are working on a book. You have a real talent for explaining things in terms that even I can understand! I'd ask you for a copy of your carb paper, but I can wait 'til it appears on the website or list. Your posts are great......keep 'em coming. later, dale c = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:16:05 -0500 From: "Dale and Donna Carmine" Subject: FTE 61-79 - seat swaps I saw a really nice '78 4wd at the lake this weekend. The owner had swapped in a late model high back split bench seat. I did notice that the headrests were against the back window, I'm not sure how well that would work with my slider window. I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has done this swap......specifically, did you lose any leg room? and did you have problems with clearance to the back window or anything else?? TIA dale c = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:12:10 -0500 From: "Bear" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 76 F-250 Where do you find the engine code on a motor? E-mail : bear269 Please view my home page at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.isl.net/~bear269/home = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:14:15 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 462 i had a very rare 69 mustang that someone shoehorned a 462 into,really screw up the entire engine compartment with a torch,it was the the first 462 i had seen,when i came across the car and saw the engine,i thought i had found some extremely rare experimental engine.it had an exhaust bolt pattern similar to a fe. in my opinion the 462 might make a good boat anchor. jeff grant griffin,ga. 78 f150 4x4 69 mach 1 68 m715 kaiser (military truck) 68 m725 kaiser (military ambulance) 92 gmc suburban 2500 4x4 (the wife's ride) FORD LOVER AT HEART = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:33:09 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - getting sponsors i had a few local restaurants offer cash for lettering on our truck,they provided gas money,entry fees,hotel expenses etc. we had a local driveline shop providing ring and pinions,posi tractions, u joints,transmission parts,transfer case parts. and a sporting goods store also paid 500.00 bucks for some lettering on the hood. for us it's all in who you know.we were talking to the owner of jasper engines on providing an engine. i'm not sure how the pros do it,we are a long way from pro's,we just know people that like truck pulling and happen to own a business. down here in georgia truck pullers are considered red necks: but then again to most people,any one from georgia is a red neck you might be a red neck if your pick up has "southern pit barbecue" painted on the side of it......we must be red necks jeff grant griffin,ga = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:36:07 -0400 From: pickup65 Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Spare Tire Carrier Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:54:53 -0400 From: Garry Bowling Subject: FTE 61-79 - Spare Tire Holder >>>If anyone happens to have a spare tire holder lying around and you really need to get rid of it, then send it my way... I looked all over Pigeon Forge for one could not find one. I also have been scouring the junk yards but so far have had no luck. Does anyone know if 73 to 79 and new will fit 67 to 72??? Garry If this question has already been answered then I apologize. I am twenty digests behind and am trying to catch up. I read two digests and four more are downloaded. They just keep coming! To answer your question the answer is it worked for me. I took the spare tire rack off of my 1977 F150 and put it on my 1965 F100. The unit fit like a charm and no drilling or modification was required. How you may ask since the 1977 frame is wider? Simple, the rack when installed on the 1977 fits perpendicular to the frame rails and is as long as the frame is wide. When I put it on the 1965 frame I made up for the length by placing it at a 45 degree angle to the frame rails. There were even holes punched in the frame at the exact spot needed to bolt it up. It fits and works perfectly with one added bonus. The truck did not shake as much when going over bumps. I think the tire mounted that far back either acts as a counter weight, a vibration dampener or both. Jon E. Purut Pickup65 JCPurut Visit my site http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~JCPurut 1964 F500 1965 F100 SWB Daily Driver (351C being completed and ready for installation) 1965 F100 1977 F150 1970 Mustang Fastback _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:36:29 -0700 From: Tom&Carol Hogan Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called? NO, Super cab is a TWO Door model with a back seat or jump seats behind the front seat. I own a super cab. The script in the two rear seat side windows says so. Shane says he wants a 4 door. This would be a CREWCAB. Used to own one of those too. ;0) I don't think Ford offered a dually in the 78-79 model years, but I could be wrong on that. Between the two models I personally like the lines of the super cab better than the crew cab. I don't think it is any easier to handle in tight spots though. If you are planning on hauling 4 or more people a lot then the ease of entry in the crew cab may be an advatage. I don't think it's all that hard to get in and out of the super cab though. Good luck on your search. Tom H. Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:43:52 -0600 From: Ryan Dorman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - What is it called? Your looking for a super cab TEA Lowrance, Shane wrote: > Hello, > > New to the list and have one question. I want to buy a '78-79 4 door 4x4 > F250 or F350. How is the 4 door model designated? = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:46:13 -0700 From: "Chris Samuel" Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Carb spacers & Turbo V8's >From: Sleddog >you mentioned the plenum volume, but do not forget the lack of a plenum >divider also allows each cyl to pull from the whole carb. Actually, I did mention the divider; but I do believe that you have clarified it here >absolutely plenum volume helps, but the ability to have better breathing also helps top >end. I agree, perhaps I was not clear in this post? I was aiming my comments at a bone stock engine that is having a Carb swapped/installed. My comments would apply to such an engine: If the original setup was way undersize then the conditions that I described might not manifest themselves when a 750-900 CFM Carb was bolted on. If however you just lift the Carb up and slide in a 2 inch spacer you can easily kill or create a big hole in the bottom end, and you should get something on the top end. I believe that I can safely say that there are a bunch of us here that have enough experience to avoid this type of problem. But how many times have you heard of someone doing something like this getting a bog when the throttle is whacked and blaming the Carb. And, or, have you thought of tuning a straight line racer for the launch... say that the line is too slick and you need to soften the launch to avoid wheel spin... so you install more spacer and adjust the pump shot and you get off the line quicker due to less spin. It is all the same principal just the application that changes. Also don't forget that a bunch of cubic inches (400+) will hide a lot of small tuning inaccuracies simply due to the amount of raw power available. When you are playing with a 300 incher that is mostly stock and you are asking for all it can give you must be much more precise. >From: Steve & Rockette >RE: Turbo V8's >I wouldn't use a turbo without a WG and a detonation sensor I should have included an O2 Sensor(s), too. Be careful with aftermarket Knock sensors. Even when placed in the same place as the factory units are I have seen them go nuts on the dyno because of some other noise being created. The factory stuff on stock engines appears to work well. I have wondered if they are building in some kind of filtering into the ECU??? Just something to be aware of... Chris 79 Bronco = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:44:17 -0600 From: Ryan Dorman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called? I realized I was wrong right after I hit send, sorry... Tom&Carol Hogan wrote: > NO, Super cab is a TWO Door model with a back seat or jump seats behind > the front seat. I own a super cab. The script in the two rear seat > side windows says so. Shane says he wants a 4 door. This would be a > CREWCAB. Used to own one of those too. ;0) I don't think Ford offered > a dually in the 78-79 model years, but I could be wrong on that. > > Between the two models I personally like the lines of the super cab > better than the crew cab. I don't think it is any easier to handle in > tight spots though. If you are planning on hauling 4 or more people a > lot then the ease of entry in the crew cab may be an advatage. I don't > think it's all that hard to get in and out of the super cab though. > > Good luck on your search. > > Tom H. > > Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:43:52 -0600 > From: Ryan Dorman > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - What is it called? > > Your looking for a super cab > > TEA Lowrance, Shane wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > New to the list and have one question. I want to buy a '78-79 4 door > 4x4 > > F250 or F350. 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