61-79-list-digest Tuesday, May 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 307



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 wandering around
Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Wheel Bearings
Re: FTE 61-79 - What is it called?
FTE 61-79 - Re: 1964 f-100 AKA "Cinderella"
FTE 61-79 - 1965 F-100 overheating
FTE 61-79 - RE: What is it called?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating
FTE 61-79 - What is it called?
FTE 61-79 - 351M questions
RE: FTE 61-79 - Bias and Radial tires
FTE 61-79 - clutch chatter
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1965 F-100 overheating
Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating
FTE 61-79 - California get together
Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating
FTE 61-79 - Long post on Carb Adapters...
FTE 61-79 - seat swaps
FTE 61-79 - 76 F-250
Re: FTE 61-79 - 462
Re: FTE 61-79 - getting sponsors
FTE 61-79 - RE: Spare Tire Carrier
FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called?
FTE 61-79 - RE: Carb spacers & Turbo V8's
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called?
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called?

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 07:01:42, -0500
From: BBMZ31A prodigy.com ( MICHAEL N BIGBY)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 wandering around

I ran bias on the front and radials on the rear for years with no
problems. The tire shops I spoke with at that time advised not to run
radials on the front and bias on the rear because of tracking
problems. Mike.

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Mike.
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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 08:07:22 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F250 Wheel Bearings

Rob Patelke wrote:
>
> My F250 4x4 is developing a squeak that seems to come from the front wheel,
> so decided to repack the bearings. This will be my first time working on a
> 4wd front end, so I checked my service manual (Always read directions), and
> the book says I gotta have tool "T59T-1197-B" which by the drawing looks to
> be a giant socket wrench.
> Anyone know what size this is?

It's not a hex type socket. It has 4 square indentations that mesh with
protrusions on "socket type" tool. They make one that works on dana 44
and dana 60 front ends. You prob have dana 44, but may have dana 60 (If
pumpkin is the same size as one in back, you have optional dana 60
front). Get the tool that works on both and your set.

>What they cost?

23-29$

>Any substitutes;

NOPE!!! :-)

OX
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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 07:12:40 -0700
From: Randy Collins
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - What is it called?

Your looking for a super cab
TEA Lowrance, Shane wrote:
> Hello,
>
> New to the list and have one question. I want to buy a '78-79 4 door 4x4
> F250 or F350. How is the 4 door model designated? I'm reading the
> classifieds and I see Custom, Extended Cab, and Super Cab. Which one
> would be the 4 door model? Or is it something completely different? Was
> it designated as a Crew Cab back then also? Also I don't want a dually.
> Any guidance would be appreciated.
>
> Shane


I don't thinks so! If he is looking for a 4 door his would be looking for
a crew cab. A Super Cab is a 2 door truck and a Custom is a trim level
designation.


Randy Collins
Boise, Idaho
rcollins micron.net

1975 Ford F250 4WD Supercab "Muscle Truck"
460 SUPER COBRA JET
Short Block Completed...Heads Sitting on the work bench!


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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 08:28:33 -0500
From: tygre iglobal.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 1964 f-100 AKA "Cinderella"

Does anyone out there have the technical schematics for this truck? I have
the shop manual but I need more detailed information such as bolt sizes and
visual perspective for reassembly. When I got the truck the previous owner
had completly broken it down to diagnose the motor. What I was left with
was cardboard boxes of scattered parts in the bed of the truck. I have had
the 223 moter rebuilt and have reconditioned most of the other components.
My problem is that I did not see the parts in their original places and I
think I am missing several bolts and maybe even a few brackets. Can anyone
help "Cinderella" dance again?

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 07:55:41 -0700
From: bertolina juno.com (NineteenSixtyFive F100)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1965 F-100 overheating

I have a 1965 F 100 with the original 240 in-line 6, original radiator
and 3 speed manual transmission. I've not had this truck very long and so
don't really have a baseline established. Is it normal for this engine
to run hot? The temperature gauge on the instrument panel with normal
driving goes clear over to the mark just before the "H". The gauge has
been checked and appears to be accurate. When the radiator water is 180
degrees, the temp gauge registers half way in between cold and hot. As
part of the troubleshooting that has already been done, the thermostat
has been replaced, radiator flushed & inspected for blockage/restriction
and water pump replaced. This truck has an aftermarket A/C on it that I
would like to get working but with the truck already running on the hot
side, I'm afraid it wouldn't tolerate that additional burden. I do plan
to get a radiator shroud. Apparently, radiator shrouds were not part of
the original equipment. The outside air temps have been around 70-80s
but soon they will be running over 100. If running this hot is not
normal, I'm looking for suggestions on what else can be done.
Thanks, Roberta in Tucson, Arizona with rust free 1965 F100 custom cab
long bed.

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:26:58 -0400
From: "THE PAVIES'"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: What is it called?

*Shane- I'm pretty sure the 4door model has always been called a
*crewcab. I used to have a supercab, which extended the cab about 18".
*I think people call the supercab an extended cab also. Good luck
*finding a crewecab in good shape!
*AND JOHN MILLER - YES, I WILL REPLACE MY BIAS PLIES FOR RADIALS ASAP!
*Thanks for the info and hopefully that will cure the problem.
*Jack P.
* 76 F250 360 C6
* 90 E150 300 C6
* 95 F350 7.3L Powerstroke 4wd Crewcab
* and also 67 VW Bug
* 61 VW Singlecab Bus
*
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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 10:10:31 -0700
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating

At 10:19 PM 22/05/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Well, the cab is coming off my 61 F-100 4x4 today, and I will begin work
>on the frame. I am going to box it in between the front two
>crossmembers to support the 429, and add some bracketry for power
>steering. I will also knock off the rear spring mounts because I am
>going to flip the shackles. I would like to know if anyone had heard of
>a process where the frame is dipped in some chemical to remove the rust
>and tar. Also, is there anyone who does galvainizing or some other
>coating that can get inside the boxed portion of the frame.
>
>Keep in mind that this is in muddy California, so you might also be able
>to dissuade me from doing anything exotic. But I live in the mountains,
>so it will see a bit of salty snow come winter.
>
>Birken T. Vogt - KE6DLT
>

Yeah, I just did it recently! You look up "Redi Strip" under 'metal
cleaning' in your local yellow pages.

They will chemically strip and de-rust the frame. They will also dip the
frame in their zinc phosphate tank for an extra charge.

Then you have two ways to go: powder coating (good but expensive, and
doesn't always get the nooks and crannies) or painting with epoxy primer
and then a really good industrial coating like Endura. If you use a wand
gun you can paint the boxed portions of the frame too.


marko in vancouver


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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 13:38:45 -0500
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - What is it called?

>TEA Lowrance, Shane wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> New to the list and have one question. I want to buy a '78-79 4 door 4x4
>> F250 or F350. How is the 4 door model designated? I'm reading the
>> classifieds and I see Custom, Extended Cab, and Super Cab. Which one
>> would be the 4 door model? Or is it something completely different? Was
>> it designated as a Crew Cab back then also? Also I don't want a dually.
>> Any guidance would be appreciated.
>>
>> Shane
>
>Your looking for a super cab
>
No, he is not. Shane, what you want is called a Crew Cab. A Super Cab
only has 2 doors and then a "half" section behind the front seats.
Sometimes those are also called Extended Cab, although that is really a
Chevy term. What you want with 4 doors has always been called a CREW CAB
for as long as I can remember. Also, you might look for "SRW" which means
Single Rear Wheels, but most folks probably wouldn't know to put that in
their add. Good luck, those are somewhat hard to find in the older years.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:13:42 PDT
From: "Chad Pasma"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 351M questions

Hi, I'm joining this list for the summer since I'm in school.
I bought a 1979 F150 custom in January. This truck originally
came from the factory with a 302 and 3 speed manual. The
truck had already been converted to automatic when I bought
it using factory parts (tilt column w/shifter). However the 302
shook badly and one day when I was trying to start it the carb
lit up. I exchanged the engine and transmission with a 1978
351M and C6. The extra weight has highlighted the downfall
of the I-beam front suspension (front wheels lean inwards)
Can this be remedied by swapping out the front coils with the
ones from the donor truck or do I need to get heavier shocks?
Also, how do I tell if my torque converter is locking up properly
or not? Sometimes even after driving for a while my choke
seems to remain closed - I put it in neutral and it holds high
revs. Any ideas as to what this could be? BTW the heat riser
from the crossover is broken.
My plan is to rebuild the five-oh after a year or so and put it
back in with an OD transmission (or maybe 5 sp) if $$ allows.
Thanks for your help.

Chad

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:25:50 -0700
From: "Jim Cron"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Bias and Radial tires

Just to help whip this topic into submission I will dig into my "been there,
done that, and sure was sorry" file to add a bit.

Radial sidewalls flex more, bias sidewalls are really stiff. When you
corner on radials you "drift" just a bit more than when on bias, but the
traction is much better and the ride is great so as long as the front and
rear drift about the same you go around in fine style. If the rear drifts
more because you have bias on front and radials in the rear, you start into
the corner and usually realise you have oversteered a bit because the
radials let the rear end swing out a tad and so turn the truck farther than
you had planned. Going down the road this happens for every little course
correction, the radials always make the truck turn more than you wanted so
you correct back, it overcorrects, soon you are whipping the wheel back and
forth all down the road. Add load and it gets worse. For a thorough
education on the matter, load the truck to max and you will learn all there
is to know about radial flex, oversteer, unstable handling and ambulances.

I had the combination on my work truck and with a full load was fine up to
40 or so, above that it was more than scary. I run bias all the way around
now as I cannot find radials in the load range I need. Its a '74 F-250 with
6000 lb light weight, might be loaded with as much as 4000 lbs and pulls a 2
ton chipper. I run 12-16.5 8 ply on the back and get along OK. This rig
badly needs duals, but then I badly need a new rig so we come out even.

Jim Cron




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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:31:55 PDT
From: "gene gardner"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - clutch chatter

Greetings to all -- I've been on the list for over 6 months and had kind
of thought I wouldn't post anything until I had an answer to someone's
query, but everyone seems to know a lot more than me .. so, I guess I
have to introduce myself with a problem instead of a solution. I've got
a '70 F100 (2WD)with a remanufactured 300 CID. It's my daily driver and
reliable as taxes but : the clutch has always chattered in first gear.
I've replaced the clutch kit twice in 2 years, also refaced and balanced
the flywheel, but the chatter always returns after temporary
improvements.
It's as if the clutchplate is either not making good contact on the
flywheel, or it's not flush to it. I don't know much about clutches
(except they're supposed to be fairly problem free!): what's the deal
here? Thanks in advance, and love the list!
Gene Gardner
genegow hotmail.com
Hermosillo, Mexico (by way of West Texas)
PS: I'm another teacher, but I can't replace Stu ...

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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 02:21:39 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1965 F-100 overheating

At 07:55 AM 5/25/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I have a 1965 F 100 with the original 240 in-line 6, original radiator
>and 3 speed manual transmission. I've not had this truck very long and so
>don't really have a baseline established. Is it normal for this engine
>to run hot?

The temperature gauge on the instrument panel with normal
>driving goes clear over to the mark just before the "H". The gauge has
>been checked and appears to be accurate. When the radiator water is 180
>degrees, the temp gauge registers half way in between cold and hot. As
>part of the troubleshooting that has already been done, the thermostat
>has been replaced, radiator flushed & inspected for blockage/restriction
>and water pump replaced. This truck has an aftermarket A/C on it that I
>would like to get working but with the truck already running on the hot
>side, I'm afraid it wouldn't tolerate that additional burden. I do plan
>to get a radiator shroud. Apparently, radiator shrouds were not part of
>the original equipment. The outside air temps have been around 70-80s
>but soon they will be running over 100. If running this hot is not
>normal, I'm looking for suggestions on what else can be done.
>Thanks, Roberta in Tucson, Arizona with rust free 1965 F100 custom cab
>long bed.

In AZ, Yes you truck will run hot. I live in Mesa AZ and have a 66 F-100
with the 240 and a four speed. So far I have replaced my stock radiator
with a 3 core unit, added a home made fan shroud, neither of which had
helped. When the temperature gets over 100, and I am sitting in traffic,
my temperature gauge will register 220-230 degrees. If and when I hit all
of the stop lights when they are green, or am on the freeway, the
temperature hovers around the 200 degree mark or above. I have a small
thermometer in the cab and it is not unusual for the temperature in the cab
to hit 140 degrees in the summer time here. The other thing that I want to
try, is to replace the four bladed stock fan with a five or six blades flex
fan to see if this will draw some more air over the radiator.

If you do find anything else that works, please let me know.

Thanks!



Keith Srbherbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie/
1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 02:24:58 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating

At 10:10 AM 5/25/98 -0700, you wrote:
snip
>
>Then you have two ways to go: powder coating (good but expensive, and
>doesn't always get the nooks and crannies) or painting with epoxy primer
>and then a really good industrial coating like Endura. If you use a wand
>gun you can paint the boxed portions of the frame too.
>
>
>marko in vancouver

Marko,

Who Makes Endura?



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Mesa, AZ
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1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 03:02:47 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: FTE 61-79 - California get together

Hello List Members,

There has been some discussion the 61-79 list of having a get together
somewhere in California. At this point in time, I do not know where, or
when it would take place. Right now I am trying to gather some information
so we can try and pick a date and location for the get together. So, I
need your help.

Question one.
I would like to know how many people would be willing to attend this get
together, if they can.

Question two.
Can anyone suggest a time and place in California that we could have this
get together. It would be nice if we can do this in conjunction with some
other Truck event that is happening then. Such as a Truck show, swap meet
or something.

Would you please email me privately, to help keep the list traffic down, at
herbie netvalue.net with your responses. When you respond, please include
the city you reside in with your response. This information will be kept
confidential.


Thank you !



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1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:19:20 -0700
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Frame Prep & Coating

At 02:24 AM 12/05/98 -0700, you wrote:
>At 10:10 AM 5/25/98 -0700, you wrote:
>snip
>>
>>Then you have two ways to go: powder coating (good but expensive, and
>>doesn't always get the nooks and crannies) or painting with epoxy primer
>>and then a really good industrial coating like Endura. If you use a wand
>>gun you can paint the boxed portions of the frame too.
>>
>>
>>marko in vancouver
>
>Marko,
>
>Who Makes Endura?
>

Endura is made, so far as I can tell, by Endura Manufacturing Ltd. of
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Endura is a non-porous highly resilient
industrial paint which basically does not chip, or crack and has excellent
weatherability. It is THE paint for coating, for example, oilfield
equipment and marine equipment.

Endura comes in a zillion colors including black, and you can get semigloss
or even semi-semigloss, for chassis applications.

Now that I've looked on the internet, it seems Endura is also made by the
US company in California. Check out this website:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netsv.com/endura/

ok?

marko in vancouver
marko helix.net

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:07:57 -0500
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Long post on Carb Adapters...

Chris,

I hope that you are working on a book. You have a real talent for
explaining things in terms that even I can understand!
I'd ask you for a copy of your carb paper, but I can wait 'til it appears on
the website or list. Your posts are great......keep 'em coming.

later,
dale c

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:16:05 -0500
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - seat swaps

I saw a really nice '78 4wd at the lake this weekend. The owner had swapped
in a late model high back split bench seat. I did notice that the headrests
were against the back window, I'm not sure how well that would work with my
slider window.
I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has done this
swap......specifically, did you lose any leg room? and did you have problems
with clearance to the back window or anything else??

TIA
dale c

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:12:10 -0500
From: "Bear"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 76 F-250

Where do you find the engine code on a motor?

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:14:15 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 462

i had a very rare 69 mustang that someone shoehorned a 462 into,really screw
up the entire engine compartment with a torch,it was the the first 462 i had
seen,when
i came across the car and saw the engine,i thought i had found some extremely
rare experimental engine.it had an exhaust bolt pattern similar to a fe.
in my opinion the 462 might make a good boat anchor.

jeff grant
griffin,ga.

78 f150 4x4
69 mach 1
68 m715 kaiser (military truck)
68 m725 kaiser (military ambulance)
92 gmc suburban 2500 4x4 (the wife's ride)
FORD LOVER AT HEART

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:33:09 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - getting sponsors

i had a few local restaurants offer cash for lettering on our truck,they
provided
gas money,entry fees,hotel expenses etc. we had a local driveline shop
providing
ring and pinions,posi tractions, u joints,transmission parts,transfer case
parts.
and a sporting goods store also paid 500.00 bucks for some lettering on the
hood.
for us it's all in who you know.we were talking to the owner of jasper
engines
on providing an engine.
i'm not sure how the pros do it,we are a long way from pro's,we just know
people that like truck pulling and happen to own a business.
down here in georgia truck pullers are considered red necks:
but then again to most people,any one from georgia is a red neck

you might be a red neck if your pick up has "southern pit barbecue" painted
on the side of it......we must be red necks

jeff grant
griffin,ga
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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:36:07 -0400
From: pickup65 juno.com (Jon E Purut)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Spare Tire Carrier

Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:54:53 -0400
From: Garry Bowling
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Spare Tire Holder

>>>If anyone happens to have a spare tire holder lying around and you
really need to get rid of it, then send it my way... I looked all over
Pigeon Forge for one could not find one. I also have been scouring the
junk yards but so far have had no luck. Does anyone know if 73 to 79
and new will fit 67 to 72???
Garry

If this question has already been answered then I apologize. I am twenty
digests behind and am trying to catch up. I read two digests and four
more are downloaded. They just keep coming!

To answer your question the answer is it worked for me. I took the spare
tire rack off of my 1977 F150 and put it on my 1965 F100. The unit fit
like a charm and no drilling or modification was required.

How you may ask since the 1977 frame is wider? Simple, the rack when
installed on the 1977 fits perpendicular to the frame rails and is as
long as the frame is wide. When I put it on the 1965 frame I made up for
the length by placing it at a 45 degree angle to the frame rails. There
were even holes punched in the frame at the exact spot needed to bolt it
up.

It fits and works perfectly with one added bonus. The truck did not shake
as much when going over bumps. I think the tire mounted that far back
either acts as a counter weight, a vibration dampener or both.


Jon E. Purut
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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:36:29 -0700
From: Tom&Carol Hogan
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called?

NO, Super cab is a TWO Door model with a back seat or jump seats behind
the front seat. I own a super cab. The script in the two rear seat
side windows says so. Shane says he wants a 4 door. This would be a
CREWCAB. Used to own one of those too. ;0) I don't think Ford offered
a dually in the 78-79 model years, but I could be wrong on that.

Between the two models I personally like the lines of the super cab
better than the crew cab. I don't think it is any easier to handle in
tight spots though. If you are planning on hauling 4 or more people a
lot then the ease of entry in the crew cab may be an advatage. I don't
think it's all that hard to get in and out of the super cab though.

Good luck on your search.

Tom H.


Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:43:52 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - What is it called?

Your looking for a super cab

TEA Lowrance, Shane wrote:

> Hello,
>
> New to the list and have one question. I want to buy a '78-79 4 door
4x4
> F250 or F350. How is the 4 door model designated?

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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:46:13 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Carb spacers & Turbo V8's

>From: Sleddog
>you mentioned the plenum volume, but do not forget the lack of a plenum
>divider also allows each cyl to pull from the whole carb.

Actually, I did mention the divider; but I do believe that you have
clarified it here

>absolutely plenum volume helps, but the ability to have better breathing
also helps top >end.

I agree, perhaps I was not clear in this post?
I was aiming my comments at a bone stock engine that is having a Carb
swapped/installed.
My comments would apply to such an engine:
If the original setup was way undersize then the conditions that I described
might not manifest themselves when a 750-900 CFM Carb was bolted on.
If however you just lift the Carb up and slide in a 2 inch spacer you can
easily kill or create a big hole in the bottom end, and you should get
something on the top end.
I believe that I can safely say that there are a bunch of us here that have
enough experience to avoid this type of problem. But how many times have
you heard of someone doing something like this getting a bog when the
throttle is whacked and blaming the Carb.
And, or, have you thought of tuning a straight line racer for the launch...
say that the line is too slick and you need to soften the launch to avoid
wheel spin... so you install more spacer and adjust the pump shot and you
get off the line quicker due to less spin. It is all the same principal
just the application that changes.
Also don't forget that a bunch of cubic inches (400+) will hide a lot of
small tuning inaccuracies simply due to the amount of raw power available.
When you are playing with a 300 incher that is mostly stock and you are
asking for all it can give you must be much more precise.

>From: Steve & Rockette
>RE: Turbo V8's
>I wouldn't use a turbo without a WG and a detonation sensor

I should have included an O2 Sensor(s), too.
Be careful with aftermarket Knock sensors. Even when placed in the same
place as the factory units are I have seen them go nuts on the dyno because
of some other noise being created. The factory stuff on stock engines
appears to work well. I have wondered if they are building in some kind of
filtering into the ECU???
Just something to be aware of...

Chris
79 Bronco



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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:44:17 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE What is it called?

I realized I was wrong right after I hit send, sorry...

Tom&Carol Hogan wrote:

> NO, Super cab is a TWO Door model with a back seat or jump seats behind
> the front seat. I own a super cab. The script in the two rear seat
> side windows says so. Shane says he wants a 4 door. This would be a
> CREWCAB. Used to own one of those too. ;0) I don't think Ford offered
> a dually in the 78-79 model years, but I could be wrong on that.
>
> Between the two models I personally like the lines of the super cab
> better than the crew cab. I don't think it is any easier to handle in
> tight spots though. If you are planning on hauling 4 or more people a
> lot then the ease of entry in the crew cab may be an advatage. I don't
> think it's all that hard to get in and out of the super cab though.
>
> Good luck on your search.
>
> Tom H.
>
> Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:43:52 -0600
> From: Ryan Dorman
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - What is it called?
>
> Your looking for a super cab
>
> TEA Lowrance, Shane wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > New to the list and have one question. I want to buy a '78-79 4 door
> 4x4
> > F250 or F350. How is the 4 door model designated?
>
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