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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Spread-bore Adapters
Re: FTE 61-79 - Distributor problems
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Mail volume
Re: FTE 61-79 - Distributor problems
FTE 61-79 - Re: California Get-Together
FTE 61-79 - Hanger Bearing
FTE 61-79 - FE stuff
Re: FTE 61-79 - Spread-bore Adapters
FTE 61-79 - transmission woes and beds
Re: FTE 61-79 - *^#* Headers
Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Mail volume
Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Mail volume
FTE 61-79 - West coast gathering
FTE 61-79 - 203 transfer case chain loose
FTE 61-79 - Long post on Carb Adapters...
FTE 61-79 - silliness..
Re: FTE 61-79 - West coast gathering
Re: FTE 61-79 - Automated VIN Decoder
Re: FTE 61-79 - 203 transfer case chain loose
FTE 61-79 - Turbo-ed V8s

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 04:59:07 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Spread-bore Adapters

> With the primary system of the Q-jet being smaller than the primary
>system of the square bore and with the primary system being used most of
>the time I believe it would be safe to say that there is no restriction
>most of the time. At what time will there be a restriction in flow under
>load. Only when the engine demand is greater than the restriction will
>allow and the Q-jet would be able to deliver. Correct?

That has been my experience exactly. As a funtion of time, I don't spend
much time all out, but when I am I don't notice any diminshed performance. I
think that this combination is able to for the most part overcome the
restriction due to the shape and the added volume of the adapter and the
shape of the manifold plenum area. Their relationship to the upper limit of
the rpm level I'm turning, about 5200-5500 I think is well matched. Another
1000 rpms and the restriction would probably show up. With a juice cam and
dual plane I'm not going up there anyway. I've never had a spread bore
intake on a Ford, but as good as mine works, I can't really imagine that it
could improve much. But of course I could be wrong.

The primary calibration I'm seeing is the responsiveness at tip in and light
load. It cruises up to 50 mph with very little throttle imput. I don't find
a soggy or a dry spot anywhere. I can't drive it smooth because it's too
much fun to squeeze it, even staying on the primaries. So my mileage has
been 8 to 10 hogging it once in a while (every day lately) I did get, when
lightfooting it, 13.8 one week, but the I had to back the timing off a
little so 12 to 13 is probably what it's capable of. That's stop and go
town driving with a 7 mile highway run (can you say BWWWRRRAAAAHHHH)ever
other day. At 4800 lbs with 4.56 gears I think that's pretty good. Compare
this the new Holley I pulled off's best of 4-7 mpg no matter what I did to
it, you see why I like it so much. As an aside, it didn't pull any better at
any rpm than what I have now.

> You are doing this Bill so there is scientific basis in what you
>saying, do to your experimentation. OK so your not using that math junk
>like Steve but non the less it's experimentation. :)

Thanks. That's the only way I can seem to learn things.
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 07:11:51 -0600
From: Rab Rawlins
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Distributor problems

Forget the channel locks, use an oil filter wrench.

Gary, 78 BBB wrote:

> > From: "Robert Hutchinson"
> > Subject: FTE 61-79 - Distributor problems
> > Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:02:13 -0400
>
> > Well, the distributor WOULD NOT come out, and yes, the retainer was
> > not still on the base. I finally said screw it and decided to take
> > my chances.
>
> It's called electrolytic action. The aluminum reacts with the iron
> and the two become pitted. The pits interlock creating a splined
> interlock in a sense. Disolving the oxidized material between the
> parts will allow it to be loosened and removed with some effort but
> it's hard to get anything in there so a large set of channel locks
> and some muscle may do the trick, othewise you just twist it off.
> (don't ask)
>
> 78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
> 78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
> 78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!
>
> -- Gary --
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:15:47 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Mail volume

Yesterday, we had 6 (yes, 6) digests for this list go out. The
mail volume is getting quite large. To reduce the system load,
although its not bad as we have plenty of bandwidth, I'm increasing
the digest size from 30k to 40k. Bandwidth isn't the problem,
response time is and so is server space. When so many messages go
out, it takes a while before your posts show up. Also, our system
keeps a daily log of all mail sent out. We only have 35 meg of
server space and the daily mail log yesterday was 5 meg!

Many of you trim the original message down when you reply, thanks.
To those that don't, please do. Our archives are going to get
very large if you don't practice this. This will now be enforced.
Sending a "me-to" or "I agree" reply to a 50 line post without
trimming down the size of the post will result in a friendly email
from me reminding you to do so in the future.

As many of you realize, I don't interfere with the content of the
list and it stays pretty relaxed. Just remember to practice some
self-discipline and it can continue to stay relaxed.

Ken Payne
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:23:47 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Distributor problems

Rab Rawlins wrote:

> Forget the channel locks, use an oil filter wrench.

It is very possible to get a wrench and/or a pipe wrench on the shaft
portion of the housing, and attempt to twist at the cap base portion will
surely almost always end with twisting the housing into two or more pieces.
Remember Patience is the utmost virtue here, remove any and all components
surrounding the dist to gain access to the shaft portion of the dist
housing to perform this work. It will pay off, believe me.

> Gary, 78 BBB wrote:
> It's called electrolytic action. The aluminum reacts with > the iron and
the two become pitted. The pits interlock > creating a splined interlock
in a sense.

The term is Dissimilar metal corrosion, it is basically setting up of a
anode and cathode and material is exchanged causing the seize. this however
is not the biggest part of the problem. almost always it is "gunk", oil
that is varnished. I have almost always had 100% success by, as I had said
before, using spray carb cleaner liberally, letting it soak, applying some
twisting action, again soaking and twisting back and forth. Repeating these
steps and making small advancements in the twisting portion, taking your
time, always keeping in mind the consequences. As a former engine
performance specialist this was something we run into allot. TAKE YOUR TIME
and you will succeed. If after several repeats of the above steps to no
avail move on to using a penetrating oil and this will work on the
dissimilar metal corrosion problem. This really is a matter of patient
diligent Methodism. you can even heat the area slightly, best when the
engine itself is at operating temp. but you can apply a little heat.
Basically my point is think about the fulcrum point you are using, think
about where the power you are applying is going to affect the housing and
TAKE YOUR TIME.

These steps are proven, no kiddin' in I would estimate over 100
distributors done myself. Hope this helps you or anyone to succeed. Again
as I said before, "this is a problem inherent to our Fords.


John Miller, FoMoCoNUT Gibralter.net
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75 F-100 Reg Cab Ranger, 2wd, 360, C6, Daily Driver " Lucy"
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:34:53 -0700
From: Marv Miller
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: California Get-Together

"Deacon" wrote:

> You know first hand the only grasp I have on reality is, I know I have
> no grasp on reality. You of all people should be telling the list that
> me and Tommy Chong share a close resemblance.

OK, guys, I'll 'fess up. He's weird. REALLY weird. (I LIKE that in a
truck enthusiast.) Who else do you know that would even WANT to put
over
three thousand pounds in a half ton? (FTE content) On the LA freeway
system, no less? 'Course, now he has one that can almost handle that.

> This is being planned by Ken, Keith and John,,, Hey wait a minute,
> Miller is a common name but I smell a rat!

Nope, coincidence.

> Anyway I only offered to help these guys out if I could. I feel Ken,
> Keith and John have things well in control.

Since the hot weather is coming, how's 'bout somewhere on the coast,
around San Luis Obispo, or thereabouts? Is that too far south? Too far
north? They've got an airport, though I'm not sure about jet service.
Lots of college girls! (Cal Poly, SLO).

- -Marv-
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:42:41 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Hanger Bearing

> I replaced the hanger bearing on my 65 f250 camper special.I pressed the
> new one on and it seemed to be in the right spot.I also replaced the
> rear u-joint.I had a bad vibration before doing this and now it is a
> little better but a vibration still remains.It is at its worst at around
> 40 mph,either under load or decelerating.Is it possible the hanger
> bearing isn't centred.I tried to press it to the same spot as the old
> one but it doesn't seem right. Anybody else ever have this problem?

You might try turning the front shaft a quarter at a time (in
relationship to the rear driveline) sometimes it will kill it, but my
'67 had to be rebalanced likely due to crud inside the shaft.
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:36:54 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE stuff

> >As I remember it:
> >All the '58 and '59 332's and 352's came either way from the factory, but
> >all of them had adjustable rockers. Sometime in mid '59 FOMOCO went to
> >hydraulics totally, and went to the stamped rockers Then in '60 when the
> >352hp was offered, it had solid lifters with no oil passages for hydraulics
> >and was rated 360 Horse power (I think). In '61 it became the 390 and was
> >offered both ways. In '62 the 406 was introduced and it had just solids
> >with no oil passage holes for hydraulics. The 427 was introduced in '63 and
> >only came with solids until '68 and, I am told, a few were produced in that
> >year with oil passages for Hyd. I've never seen one. The 428 was
> >introduced in late '68 and all had oil passages for hyd lifters.
> >This is believed to be true, but I wouldn't bet my lunch on it.

All great info. A question for you. Didn't they change the width of the
thrust bearing somewhere about '63-'64? I learned the hard way that the
motor mount bolt pattern is different between pre and post'64's The
later blocks interchange to the early ones,but the early ones are
lacking the holes for the later mounts. We had to make a bracket to
offset to the existing holes to put a '64 390 in a '66 F100. I've also
read somewhere that FT blocks were the service replacement for the
428's. Does anyone know how thick the bores are. I have an FT block in
my truck, and might be thinking of upgrading it to a 428 when it comes
time to do the deed. I'll at least go up to a 410. Probably put in the
'67 F100 and an original style 352 in the 4X4.
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:26:49 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Spread-bore Adapters

From: William L Ballinger
>That has been my experience exactly.

Can you adjust the accelerator pump to actuate less? I've been thinking
about the acceleration problem your having and besides the spring it
could be getting to much gas squirting in the secondary. Just a thought!
:)

OK, where is everybody? I can't be the only one without a life!

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:42:59 -0400
From: jeff bogart
Subject: FTE 61-79 - transmission woes and beds

Thanks sleddog for the info on the transmission. Fixed it this morning.

I now have a 3 speed c6!!!! For anyone who has a similar problem,
make sure the parts place gives you the type of band that you can put
in with the transmission in.

Question------- I was at the junkyard this morning and asked about
a bed for my truck (one in the yard NO rust or dings!) Is $200 about
right for a longbed?
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:46:21 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - *^#* Headers

>Questions. Does the Performer 390 have an exhaust cross passage under the
>carb?

Yes, it does.

Steve

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:14:53 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Mail volume

From: Ken Payne
>Many of you trim the original message down when you reply, thanks.
>To those that don't, please do. Our archives are going to get
>very large if you don't practice this. This will now be enforced.
>Sending a "me-to" or "I agree" reply to a 50 line post without
>trimming down the size of the post will result in a friendly email
>from me reminding you to do so in the future.

We've noticed too. Dale posted a request for the same thing on 5/20.
maybe this time people will listen.

>As many of you realize, I don't interfere with the content of the
>list and it stays pretty relaxed. Just remember to practice some
>self-discipline and it can continue to stay relaxed.

Why are you going after me? I trim my post. So if they don't trim
their post I can't go a little off topic. It's not fair! I mean I only
rarely and ever so slightly get off topic. OK your upset about 6 digest,
and you know, I don't blame you. Tell you what, I going to check my mail
from yesterday and who ever did all that posting, well I'm going to give
them a piece of my mind, privately of course.

Well I guess I'm lucky that piece didn't go too far. :) Well I guess
I'll go do something now, your probably busy scanning the PF pictures
for the site. How's that coming, by the way! No, no I got to go. Thanks,
your doing a great job here, I'm sure everyone would agree with this.
Well that is, you know, if you hadn't said that thing about posting the
I agree thing. Hey I gotta go!
Later! :)

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:08:35 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Mail volume

- -snip-
> Why are you going after me? I trim my post. So if they don't trim
>their post I can't go a little off topic. It's not fair! I mean I only
>rarely and ever so slightly get off topic. OK your upset about 6 digest,
>and you know, I don't blame you. Tell you what, I going to check my mail
>from yesterday and who ever did all that posting, well I'm going to give
>them a piece of my mind, privately of course.

You're not guilty.

>
> Well I guess I'm lucky that piece didn't go too far. :) Well I guess
>I'll go do something now, your probably busy scanning the PF pictures
>for the site. How's that coming, by the way!

Actually, the film is still at the developers. I'm currently adding
about 30 pictures to the pictorial that have been piling up for the
last month.

Oh.... almost forgot. I agree.

Look for Pigeon Forge photos on the site next weekend.

Ken Payne, List Drone

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:27:52 -0700
From: "Jim Cron"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - West coast gathering

Pigeon Forge is just too far for me, a west coast event would be great. LA
is kind of far, any interest in something in the bay area? I would really
like to cruise down and show off my '67 when it is looking good - maybe in
the year 2020 I will have it ready.

If you local guys want to get together here in Federal Way this summer,
check out
www.netspark.com/familyfest/
for our local festival weekend before Labor Day. We could have a Ford
corner there and drive your trucks in the parade, if any of you are
interested. I am on the committee and whatever I say goes, as long as I
then go do it.

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:39:18 -0500
From: "Mike & Evan"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 203 transfer case chain loose

I finally took my transfer case apart enough to see what kind of damage I
may have. What I found was the drive chain inside is very loose. I'm
thinking the chain may be slipping when there is a heavy load on it.
Everything else inside looks good, just some very fine metallic oil. How
much do the parts guys get for a chain? My truck is a '75 F-250.

I assume there is no adjustment in the chain, so how does it become so
loose?

Anyone willing to send me some instructions on how to change it? Or any
tricks?

Thanks again!

Mike Vonhof
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:16:09 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Long post on Carb Adapters...

Hi Deacon !-)
I did send Ken that Carb paper. Even before you suggested it. We shall see
what the list master thinks... Long may he run...

On Carbs and Adapters:
Running an adapter under the Carb that has a thickness of under 1 inch and
an open Plenum will not make much difference to the operation of the engine.
In all likelihood, on the street you will not notice it nor be able to
measure the difference (all things being equal), on the track or Dyno is
another story.
When the spacer gets thicker it increases the Plenum Volume. This change in
volume is what you are concerned with, as the volume increases the velocity
of the Air Fuel (A/F) Mixture slows down. This reduction in velocity is not
a bad thing and it isnt a good thing, as it depends on the engine and the
operation conditions. The critical item is the metering signal that is
reaching the Carb. Generally there is no such thing as too strong a signal;
there is such a thing as too weak a signal. The increase in the Plenum
Volume (PV) will dampen the signal. Think of the signal as a wave in water,
if you run the wave through a small channel like a river you will get a
strong wave, but when the river hits the ocean or lake the wave is
dissipated rapidly. This is what happens in the intake manifold with the
Plenum being the lake or ocean.
The trick is to have enough volume to supply the engine at its maximum RPM
and to have the volume small enough to give good throttle response. The OEM
s will error on the small side, and for good reason. The instant throttle
response available right off idle is both easy and cheap to build, fits
under the hood, and feels good to the prospective customer, so it sells
cars selling cars is their bottom line.
The addition of Plenum Volume often will be just the thing for a stock
engine. If you are using the engine in a semi-performance application, or
have a tendency to ask the engine to give you more above about 2500-3500 RPM
you may actually be experiencing a condition where the velocity of the A/F
Mixture will slam the fuel into the bottom of the Plenum and only the air is
making the inevitable turn out of the Plenum into the intake runner, with
the fuel having to play catch up. This happens because the fuel droplets
are heavier then the air and can not make the turn at the same speed.
Increase the PV, decrease the speed, fuel makes the corner, more power!

Spread Bore to Holley Flange adapters.
Now this is tricky, these can work, but the adapter (if a bolt on) must be a
minimum of about 2 inches thick. The thinner spacers work, but as mentioned
they introduce a bunch of turbulence into the flow. As a rule you dont
want turbulence in the flow.
The shape of the Plenum is made so that the A/F Mixture is distributed
correctly with the design Carb. Put on an adapter that changes shape
radically and you have who knows what happening.
For the street the best way to run a Spread bore Carb is on the correct
manifold, the second best is on a 2" thick 4 hole spacer that has the
secondary bores made at the correct angle so that they direct the A/F
Mixture to enter the Plenum in a smooth flow.
Unfortunately I do not know of anyone that makes such an adapter (I am sure
that someone do, but I dont know em, and haven't looked). I have made
several over the years, but in the long run it is cheaper to just get the
right Manifold or Carb for the application. Carving this adapter out of a
chunk of aluminum is not difficult, just time consuming, for example at
$50.00/HR you can expect to pay for 4 hours worth, plus materials, or the
better part of the price of the correct manifold. There are several
companies that offer 2 inch thick adapters that are open Plenum; problem is
that the increase in Plenum Volume will tend to kill off the bottom end
performance as described above. You can divide these adapters but you
really havent reduced the volume so the drop in low speed performance
continues. They do work well when you are looking for mid to top end power
as the increased PV will allow each cylinder to have access to more A/F
Mixture.

One of the lurks here who has a 350 Chev in a Z car pointed out to me that I
dont run any disclaimer and tend to be abrupt.
Now I wouldn'tt wish to offend any one, though I dont really care if I do.
Ether way here is my disclaimer:

All of the above is my opinion.
It is based on: fire, smoke, broken parts, twisted sheet metal, fast times,
tight corners, deep mud, blistered slicks, white water, good beer, better
bourbon, fine cigars, and all of the costs that go with each of them.
If you listen to my opinion (whether you agree or disagree) and then act on
it in any way you are solely responsible for those actions and the results
there of good or bad.

Chris
79 Bronco

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:43:03 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - silliness..

Well, I'm trying to learn a CAD program, and I got bored to death of
the endless practice exorcises in the book today...
I went off on kind of a silly tangent for a little while and this was
the result:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/truck/ftezone2.jpg

Yes, it's got FTE relevance, but...



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then it is time to die." -- Lillian Smith

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:55:55 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - West coast gathering

At 02:27 PM 5/23/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Pigeon Forge is just too far for me, a west coast event would be great. LA
>is kind of far, any interest in something in the bay area? I would really
>like to cruise down and show off my '67 when it is looking good - maybe in
>the year 2020 I will have it ready.

SF bay area would be perfect for me! That's not much more than 100 miles
from here...

Steve

Steve

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Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 01:26:04 -0400
From: "Kristen Marcellus"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Automated VIN Decoder

>The decoder looks at the consecutive sequence number of the vin
>to figure out what year the vehicle is, and the problem is that
>according to my references, 67 and 76 both could have the same sequence
>number. In fact it looks as if vehicles of these two years could have
>the exact same vin number. Does anyone have any in depth reference to
>Ford vins that could help me out here?? Is the information I have just
>a typo?


The only thing I can think of is that they were manufactured in different
plants (see the back of the Redbook) but I couldn't tell you what was made
where. If you decide to go newer than 88 let me know if you need any info
because I license (title) vehicles as part of my job.

Kristen (MrsSlix66 email.msn.com)





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Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 00:22:34 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 203 transfer case chain loose

Mike & Evan wrote:

> I finally took my transfer case apart enough to see what kind of damage I
> may have. What I found was the drive chain inside is very loose. I'm
> thinking the chain may be slipping when there is a heavy load on it.
> Everything else inside looks good, just some very fine metallic oil. How
> much do the parts guys get for a chain? My truck is a '75 F-250.

Around $80 depending on who you get it from..

> I assume there is no adjustment in the chain, so how does it become so
> loose?

2 decades of use will do that... Can be done in considerably less time in
a high abuse environment...

> Anyone willing to send me some instructions on how to change it? Or any
> tricks?

Lotsa elbow grease... T-cases are pretty straight forward (just take your
time and remember what order you dissassembled it in) If you plan on only
replaceing the chain, pull the case out (I'm assuming you've already done
this) pull the yokes, pull the back half of the case off (remembering to look
inside before you yank it off), gently slide the front output shaft out
(should bind on chain before it thinks about coming all the way out) slide
the main gear assembly out until you can get the front output shaft free of
the case, remove trashed chain, replace with pretty new chain,Now put it back
together in reverse order of how you dissassembled it (the hard part!!!)....

Good luck & may I suggest getting a shop manual (even a haynes will do) just
in case it plays
"JENGA tm" on you...

- --
58 F-100 292 sb 2wd
85 Bronco 300 IL6 4x4
97 F-150 4.6 sb ext cab 4x4
(and several others in progress)
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Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 00:12:12 -0700
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Turbo-ed V8s

I would like to know if anyone out there can point me to some
information on turbocharged gas V8s. I have a 429 I am building for a
4x4 and I would really like to turbo it in order to be able to set up
the cam, intake and heads maximum low end axle breaking torque but still
have decent power up on top, for mud bogging and such. This would be a....


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