61-79-list-digest Friday, August 28 1998 Volume 02 : Number 425



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Re:
FTE 61-79 - greasing C bushings
RE: FTE 61-79 - 300 six
FTE 61-79 - HUMPS
FTE 61-79 - Backfires
Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 F350 Backfires When Letting Off Accelerator
Re: FTE 61-79 - greasing C bushings
Re: FTE 61-79 - F-600 uses
FTE 61-79 - bellhousings
FTE 61-79 - Growling tranny
FTE 61-79 - 5 sp 4X4
FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Bushing Change
Re: FTE 61-79 - engine ID
Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six
Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:
Re: FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Bushing Change
FTE 61-79 - Long weekend
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck ID
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck ID
FTE 61-79 - radial - bias
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck ID
FTE 61-79 - 300 six
FTE 61-79 - RE: 7.3L diesel
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 7.3L diesel
FTE 61-79 - 5 sp 4X4
FTE 61-79 - 66 F350 Backfires When Letting Off Accelerator
Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six
FTE 61-79 - MAJOR electrical problems...
Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for article on FE Head Plug/oil
Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six
Re: FTE 61-79 - MAJOR electrical problems...
Re: FTE 61-79 - MAJOR electrical problems...

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:29:48 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:

At 08:59 PM 8/26/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>>I was wondering how many of you have or have had a Ford truck with the
>300
> six. My personnel experience with the engine has been
>great.
>

Personally I'm an FE guy, but a friend of mine had an 82 3/4 ton 4x with
the 300 in it. His dad used it for a very short time hauling a loaded hog
trailer. It worked ... slowly, but did work. When his dad got a diesel he
gave my friend the 6 and told him if the engine blew or anything he could
have a V8 instead ... like this isn't asking for trouble. Chris tried to
blow that thing up for 3 years while I knew him, even drove to Chicago and
back dripping oil (6hr round trip) so there was less than a quart left when
he got home ... no damage done. They may not have all the power of the
8's, but they sure are durable. 90 in a carbed 6cyl pickup? Supposedly.


Just my 2cents

Bill

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:45:17 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - greasing C bushings

I just replaced the C-bushings on my 4x4 resto truck called, "project never
get finished?" :) and I cleaned the old surfaces really good with a
wire brush, primed and painted the entire axle with Eastwood Epoxy chasis
black and greased those rascals up. They help when installing them, IMHO
causing them to slide where they should go easier without all the friction
and in 35 years when I have to replace them again, I hope I won't have to
clean and scoure that area like I did this time. Plus, it is a friction
point for the suspension so I hoping for longer life. I did install
urethene bushings for added life.

BTW- It is a Dana 44 front axle.

While I am on here, Antone know of a supplier or upholstery man that can get
stock
vinyl seating material for 71 model Effies????? I need to get OEM quality
and look seating for my project. Any help is appreciated.


Stu
Nuke GM!
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 06:57:56 -0700
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 300 six

Rob, Tony, and all FTE readers,
I will have to agree with not only the 300 but with the 240 also. I
am currently daily driving a 66 F100 w/ a 240 I-6 and a 4speed yet to be
identified 4speed tranny (I'm guessing NP???)but seeing as I bought her
6years ago used and abused (former farm truck) the only major problems that
I've had have been the radiator (original) this year and the freeze plugs
under the exhaust manifold started leaking and they also appear to be the
original freeze plugs. But that truck has made numerous trips fm Vacaville,
CA up to the Redding area and NorCal Coast to go camping and hauling
Scouting equipment. 3 round trips to Wyoming overloaded and pulling an
overloaded trailer (moving) down to the San Diego area for a new job and
it's still my daily driver for a 60 mile round trip to work and back.
Current estimated mileage: 250,000 and increasing.
Keep the up on the required maintenance and they will last forever. Next
major maintenance for the beast is kingpins. Now if I can talk SWMBO into
letting me driving her 94 Splash (yea right!!!) I want to take the beast
down and start doing a full frame-up restoration, including overhauling the
240; shifting to disk brakes (thanks Ken); upgrading the wiring and
modifying the headlight circuit (thanks Steve). Now, lets see if I can weld
sheet metal w/ my flux cored mig welder so that I can remove the cancer from
the right front of the hood where it likes to collect water and rust.

John
66 f100 w/240 I6
94 Ranger Splash 4.0L - SWMBO's (I hate Liters)

From: Tony Marino


I'm probably the biggest supporter of the 6 on this newsgroup I
suppose
from what I read

So yeah, I stick up for the 300!!!


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:59:29 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - HUMPS

Stu writes: >>or you have Alzheimers.

Could be, but I sure hope not. Had an Aunt that had that. Terrible
disease - sure hope the Good Lord spares me from it.

I knew about the differences when you had the plate for manual 4 speeds and
4X4 shifters. I was really referring to the "natural" curvature of the
hump. I thought all of them were the same in their "natural" state. I
couldn't believe FOMOCO made different floor stampings for floor shifts and
colum shifts. I understand what you are saying (now that I've been
supplied several pictures by the members of this list). Do you understand
what I'm saying, and are they all the same in their stamped state????

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:45:18 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Backfires

Bill writes: >> My 66 F350, 352 engine backfires when letting off
accelerator. Engine runs fine otherwise. The carburetor does not have an
dashpot.) Any recommendations?

Vacuum line off.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:43:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 F350 Backfires When Letting Off Accelerator

If your engine backfires when you let off the accelerator your timing
may be retarded. Check your timing with a lite at idle, no vacuum. If
that is OK then you may have slop in your timing chain. With the
timing lite hooked up accelerate the motor, watch the timing advance
(mechanical only). Release the throttle quickly, look for the timing
to become retarded. If you can, repeat this test on a similar (low
mileage) motor.

One question to ask yourself is: How many miles are on this
motor(timing chain)? If the answer is 6 digits then the timing chain
is a strong suspect.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:05:06 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - greasing C bushings

Date sent: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:45:17 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - greasing C bushings

> I just replaced the C-bushings on my 4x4 resto truck called, "project
> never get finished?" :) and I cleaned the old surfaces really good
> with a wire brush,

I bought a needle gun attachment for my air chisel ($20 from Harbour
Freight) and it did a fantastic job on these and other parts. You can't beat it
for removing paint or caked on rust and crud, the stuff just flys off. This
tool is good for any cast iron or forged part or heavy sheet metal but not
body metal and doesn't seem to ding it up all that much. It is hard on your
arms though if you do very much at a time :-)

If you did not use a punch or chisel on it you put your bushing on over
caked rust, I'd bet my............well, I pretty sure anyway. That rust come off
hard and requires pretty stout impact to do it.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:33:16 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - F-600 uses

From: "Jim Cron"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-600 uses
Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:24:07 -0700

> of thing. painfully ugly IMHO but does the job.

Heeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyy!??? I thought my 62 was kind a cute :-) Wish I still
had it just to have it.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:10:11 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - bellhousings

Ross writes: >> I also had to use a 390 flywheel since the 460 never had a
4-speed until it was externally balanced in '83 or so. The 390's fit the
bolt pattern on the 460's crank; 351/400's don't. The starter came from a
351/400 and so far seems to fit the 390 flywheel fine. (no skips or broken
teeth). Azie, you might have some input on this since you've done it
before (and I'd like to hear how you did it).

Exactly the way I've done all mine. 351M/400 bellhousing - 360/390
flywheel - starter for 351M/400 - clutch release bearing for 351M/400.
Also had to do something funny to the Pilotshaft bearing, but I can't
remember what. Seems like I had to chuck it in the lay and grind approx
.008" off the outer diameter.(this was a 351M/400 bearing). Everything
worked(still works) great.

Just for informational purposes the 429 in Torinos was offered with a 4
speed starting in '70 I think. I checked on this at my local FOMOCO parts
dept and the flywheel/clutch/pressure plate was listed as "discontinued".

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:07:13 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Growling tranny

High Plains Richard writes: >>How does this guess sound to you all? Any
other
possibilities? How hard is this bearing to replace?

Sounds like a good guess to me. Haven't been in one of these in several
years, but it's pretty simple if I remember correctly. Some tranny I was
in, you could even remove the input shaft with out removing the rest of
the mainshaft or the cluster, but I don't remember which tranny is which.
It was from a FOMOCO, but I don't remember the type/make.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:32:08 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 5 sp 4X4

Cannondale writes: >> I got a 5speed manual transmission out of a early
'70's F600, cluth and all. I dont know what kinda tranny it is, but its
bolted onto the stock 390 (still in the truck, havent taken it out yet). I
was wondering if it would be very hard to swap it into my '78 F250 4x4
currently running a C-6 auto. Why do I want to swith to manual you ask?
Because I hate auto's.. :) The only things I know about the tranny is that
it has a handle on it (im guessing for lo/hi?) and PTO. Would I be able to
bolt the back on the tranny to hook to a transfer case??

anything would be great

The 5 sp is most likely a Clark. There will be a tag on one side or the
other(can't remember which) that will identify it. If it is a 280VO, I
would like to try to buy it. I have a 285V23 from a '73 F 700. I don't
believe the adaptor off the Auto will bolt up to the Clark and I'm even
surerer that the output spline of the Clark is much larger than the Auto,
so that will be two things that you must hurdle. Anything is possible, so
it all depends on how much you want to spend. Oh yeah!!! That Clark will
probably weigh at least 100# more than the auto, if not more,
Your '78 most likely has a 351M/400, so the bellhousing off the larger
truck probably won't work because it is most likely a FT block which has
different bellhousing bolt patterns.

Good luck.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:39:37 -0700
From: gpark cymer.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Bushing Change

My 77 F150 (2wd) radius arm bushing are pretty much gone. To the
unexperienced optimist, it looks like I can just undo to nut, push the arm
out of it's hole, and R&R the bushings. What's the real story on changing
these bushings? Do I need any special tools? What does it take to get
the arms out of the frame holes? Does the whole arm have to come off the
front end?



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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:00:12 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - engine ID

From: "JAMES MERLO"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - engine ID
Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:55:05 -0500

> How do I ID a 351M from a 400M? Where do I look on them? I may be

If there are no stickers on it then you have to pull a plug and check the
stroke. There are no external markings I know of to differentiate them. The
only difference between them is the crank and piston compression height or
location of the wrist pin relative to the top of the piston.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:05:58 -0400
From: "John F. Bauer III"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six

Group:

I would like to add I that I may be the only person on the group who is
currently removing a 460/C6 from a van in order to install a 300. Long
story short, moved from the country to the city and couldn't get my '77 4wd
swb van in the driveway (had 44" tires, 9'6" tall), so being converted
closer to stock 2wd setup with 300 + Ford RUG 4sp. man. With similar setup
to Tony, hoping to get 22-23mpg on the highway for some serious
vacation/camping trips.

Tony: ever remember what rod/jet sizes worked best in your Edelbrock 4bbl
carb, getting ready to install next and would appreciate the info?

John

At 11:25 PM 8/26/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Well Rob,
>
> I'm probably the biggest supporter of the 6 on this newsgroup I suppose

snip

>
>So yeah, I stick up for the 300!!!
>
>Tony M.
>tony pscico.com
>www.pscico.com/~tony (how's come stu's page looks better than mine when I
>made his!!! (grin))
>
>
>At 11:09 AM 8/26/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>I was wondering how many of you have or have had a Ford truck with the 300
>>six. My personnel experience with the engine has been great. I think it is
>>the greatest and most reliable engine ever build, way more than some
>>japanese car.
>>
>>Anyway I would like to here from you!!
>>
>>Robert
>>
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:32:54 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six

Date sent: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:05:58 -0400
From: "John F. Bauer III"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six

> I would like to add I that I may be the only person on the group who is
> currently removing a 460/C6 from a van in order to install a 300. Long

GASP!!!

> story short, moved from the country to the city and couldn't get my '77
> 4wd swb van in the driveway (had 44" tires, 9'6" tall), so being converted

I did a 75 but with 33's and can't see how the 4wd could affect getting in and
out of a drive way? Mine was pretty agile but only required a 3" lift to make
it all fit and work well. I took a 460 out too but the van went all the way to
the happy resting place at that point and it now resides in my PU (78).

Kinda miss that van, called him "Mad Max" because he was so ugly and
rusted :-)


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:25:26 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re:

Bill-

110mph (if that's what you meant by 90) Got the ticket to prove it!!! 8-)

Tony

>he got home ... no damage done. They may not have all the power of the
>8's, but they sure are durable. 90 in a carbed 6cyl pickup? Supposedly.
>
>
>Just my 2cents
>
>Bill

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:29:27 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Bushing Change

From: gpark cymer.com
Date sent: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:39:37 -0700
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Radius Arm Bushing Change

> My 77 F150 (2wd) radius arm bushing are pretty much gone. To the
> unexperienced optimist, it looks like I can just undo to nut, push the arm
> out of it's hole, and R&R the bushings. What's the real story on changing
> these bushings? Do I need any special tools? What does it take to get
> the arms out of the frame holes? Does the whole arm have to come off the
> front end?

If you remove one end of the spring and jack the truck up till the tires come
off the ground you may have enough room or maybe just loosening one end
of the shock will let it droop enough to clear the crossmember and other I
beam, can't remember but with the right combination you can pull it far
enough to get them out as I recall. One side moves easier than the other due
to the other I beam getting in the way.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:17:34 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Long weekend

I'm on my way out the door till Monday so you guys take care and I'll get
back to ya then. Got a wedding to go to Saturday and some lawn spots to
re-seed and more barn cleaning and a 84 cougar to strip and a lincoln to tune
up and..........anyway I'll probably stay busy so you guys don't have to
worry about me getting drunk or taking drugs due to boredome :-)

Have a nice weekend :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:20:44 PDT
From: "WILLIAM WHITED"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck ID

I'm looking at a truck and I got the id#'s off the driver's side door.
It has been abandoned and has a tool box on the passenger side, has a
manual tranny, lockable glove box, Custom on the glove box and bed, also
mounts for factory air. Any info on it is appreactied. Thanks in
advance.
f10gns0071u
135qhf102634c175
0480025


74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390, 2BRL, AT "SEMPER FI"


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:49:28 -0500
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck ID

At 01:20 PM 8/27/98 PDT, you wrote:
>I'm looking at a truck and I got the id#'s off the driver's side door.
>It has been abandoned and has a tool box on the passenger side, has a
>manual tranny, lockable glove box, Custom on the glove box and bed, also
>mounts for factory air. Any info on it is appreactied. Thanks in
>advance.
>f10gns0071u
>135qhf102634c175
>0480025
>
>
>74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390, 2BRL, AT "SEMPER FI"
>
>
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William

There is a Ford web site that will let you enter the ven # and will come

back with the information you are looking for.

I got to it through www.ford.trucks.com.

Good Luck

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:35:35 -0500
From: John LaGrone
Subject: FTE 61-79 - radial - bias

Draygo echos my experience except the other way around. I had bias on the
front and radials on the rear. Thank goodness for power steering or that
truck would have been a workout. It was a crew cab to boot. After I put
radials and 2 tons of oak firewood on it, it rode and drove PDG (pretty
darn good).


- -John

jlagrone ford-trucks.com
1979 F150 Custom 351M C6, bashed in left door, new left front fender
1988 Towncar 5.0 EFI E4OD
Macintosh G3/233 minitower (The software box said Windows95 or better, so I
bought a Mac.)
1979 MC under restoration (my son loves old cars, too!!!)

Dearborn iron rules!!!!!!


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:07:46 -0500
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck ID

At 03:49 PM 8/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>At 01:20 PM 8/27/98 PDT, you wrote:
>>I'm looking at a truck and I got the id#'s off the driver's side door.
>>It has been abandoned and has a tool box on the passenger side, has a
>>manual tranny, lockable glove box, Custom on the glove box and bed, also
>>mounts for factory air. Any info on it is appreactied. Thanks in
>>advance.
>>f10gns0071u
>>135qhf102634c175
>>0480025
>>
>>
>>74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390, 2BRL, AT "SEMPER FI"
>>
>>
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>William
>
>There is a Ford web site that will let you enter the ven # and will come
>
>back with the information you are looking for.
>
>I got to it through www.ford.trucks.com.
>
>Good Luck
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William

Look under Misc on that web site. I believe you enter the top set of

information you listed.

Larry


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:11:10 -0700
From: "Robert Houlne"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 300 six

great, didn't think it was just me

we have a 90' Bronco with the 300 six 126,000 miles. We haven't chenged
anthing that wasn't routine maintnence(spark plugs etc).

I'm currently looking for an 65'-75' Ford F-100 with the 300 six!
Something not to beat up but I would really like to restore it, interior
etc,, but not rebuild the motor...


On another note my cousin just got a 75' F250 for $500 for a wood truck. IT
has the 360 in it, not to bad looking except for a small hole in the rear
right quaterpanel. But before he even burned one tank of fuel it burned 3+
quarts of oil...

Robert



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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:20:57 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 7.3L diesel

They pay me to drive a '97 E-SuperDuty dually minibus with a 7.3L
Powerstroke. It has been in service for about 16 months, has 235,000
miles on it (80% highway, 20% city, often heavily loaded), and has had NO
mechanical problems. It has had minor electrical glitches, but no
noticeable wear or performance loss. Hauls $$, too, even in a
21-passenger bus! We switched to diesel power because our application
chews up gas big blocks; our 454s rarely lasted over 150K. Yeah, it's a
good motor.

IMHO: If you can see through it, it is not beer. Drink stout.
lordjanusz

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:04:17 -0700
From: Rob Bryan
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: 7.3L diesel

Wow you drive a lot! 235K in 16 months is 14,688 a month, and 490 mi a
day. Given that the work day is 8 hrs long, that means the vehicle is
averaging 61.2 mi/hr constantly! No wonder you were eating up those garbage
Generic Motors big blocks!

Rob


At 2:20 PM -0500 08/27/98, Paul M Radecki wrote:
>They pay me to drive a '97 E-SuperDuty dually minibus with a 7.3L
>Powerstroke. It has been in service for about 16 months, has 235,000
>miles on it (80% highway, 20% city, often heavily loaded), and has had NO
>mechanical problems. It has had minor electrical glitches, but no
>noticeable wear or performance loss. Hauls $$, too, even in a
>21-passenger bus! We switched to diesel power because our application
>chews up gas big blocks; our 454s rarely lasted over 150K. Yeah, it's a
>good motor.
>
>IMHO: If you can see through it, it is not beer. Drink stout.
>lordjanusz
>
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:01:46 -0500
From: cannandale netpointe.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 5 sp 4X4

I have a 460 in my truck. Im willing to spend some money on it if I
have to, know any places that would sell adapters to make the output
shaft work? Or would I have to get a machine shop to make me one?
Better question, would it just be easier to put a diffrent manual in it
than that big 'ol tranny?

I'll take a looksie tomarrow and email ya what it is..


cannandale
'78 f250 4x4, 460


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:23:50 -0400
From: Bill Templeton
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 66 F350 Backfires When Letting Off Accelerator

Many thanks for responding. I think you hit the jack pot. Indeed the truck
has an exhaust leak. The manifold gasket (flat) is leaking. I have been
holding off installing the gasket until a replacement crossover pipe (rough
weld job) can be located. Any recommendations on good source for crossover
pipe and other parts for the 66 F350?

The truck has an interesting history. It was purchased by the State of
Tennessee in 1966, was sold to an individual in 1972 with around 52,000
miles. The buyer installed a cattle body. I bought it this year with 66,000
miles. The body has virtually no rust.

Bill
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:42:26 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six

Date sent: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:25:49 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six

> and hold it's own? I'd have to argue!!! (this is not an invitation to an
> engine war, just my own viewpoints and opinions, please guys, don't jump
> on this! 8-)

Ohhhhhhh Maaaaaaaaan! Wide open hehehe :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's "The Ex-Black Hole"
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's "The Black Hole"
78 LIncoln Continental, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! "The Future.." :-)
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hoooo!

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:19:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Daniel H. Jenkins"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - MAJOR electrical problems...

Well, once again I spent last night towing my truck home. This
time it was the final straw... I was towed home by a GMC Jimmy. Now,
before you all ostracize me for letting a GMC tow me home, tell me how to
fix my truck!! I was driving home and the truck just died... no power
ata ll. No power to the radio, the lights,nothing. Popped the hood and
saw all sorts of burned electrical tape and melted insulation. I replaced
all this stuff with a harness out of the bone yard; the harness was the
one connecting the alternator, starter solenoid, and voltage regulator.
Put it all back togther, turn the key, nada... The starter solenoid is
oscillating VERY quickly between being open and closed. I tried bypassing
the solenoid with a pair of screwdrivers (I know, really technical) and,
even though A LOT of sparks flew, the motor didn't turn over. Anybody out
ther got any ideas. I'm getting tired of having to drive around the puny
little four banger I'm stuck driving. Thanks in advance to those who
help...

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Daniel H. Jenkins Food for thought: John Milton
djenkins honors.unr.edu wrote _Paradise_Lost_; When his
Honors Program wife died he wrote _Paradise_
University of Nevada, Reno _Regained_...

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:19:44 -0700
From: Doug Neely
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Looking for article on FE Head Plug/oil

The article you're looking for is on page 62 of the Ford Perfomance book
by Pat Ganahl , he says;

Another good oil rerouting tip for any Ford FE is to restrict the amount of
lubricant directed to the rockerarms . This end of the engine does not need
a
large supply of oil anyway , and these engines have been known (like
Y-blocks)
to suck extra oil down the valve stems. The modifacation is simple: cut a
small piece
of steel or aluminum rod stock to about 3/4 inch long and approximately of
equal
diameter to the oil passage in the head. Drill a .090 inch hole up the
middle and slip
it into the oil passage (a slip fit is all it needs) and bolt the head in
place. Your
"restrictor" will stay in place and do the job until the heads are removed;
then
it will slip back out so the passage can be cleaned.

I did this with my 390 the passage is under the rockerstand and
you can just drop the rod in, I used steel rod so if I wanted to
take them out I could use a magnet.

Cheers,
Doug

(ps: sorry for the delay, been off on holidays)

joe wrote:

> I am looking for the article of the FE heads to plug the oil passages to
> keep
> more oil on the bottom end..if you have this please email me a copy
> Thanks
> Joe
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:49:31 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 300 six

From: Tony Marino
>> and hold it's own? I'd have to argue!!! (this is not an invitation
to an
>> engine war, just my own viewpoints and opinions, please guys, don't
jump
>> on this! 8-)

From: Gary, 78 BBB
>Ohhhhhhh Maaaaaaaaan! Wide open hehehe :-)

Defenseless kids leaving themselves wide open like that. With an invite
to boot! God love'em. (snicker snicker) :]

Deacon
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 00:05:57 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MAJOR electrical problems...

From: Daniel H. Jenkins
>No power to the radio, the lights,nothing. Popped the hood and
>saw all sorts of burned electrical tape and melted insulation. I
replaced
>all this stuff with a harness out of the bone yard;

The harness wasn't the problem. It was a symptom.

>the harness was the
>one connecting the alternator, starter solenoid, and voltage regulator.
>Put it all back togther, turn the key, nada... The starter solenoid is
>oscillating VERY quickly between being open and closed.

Never heard that one before. :} try changing the starter solenoid.
Before hooking it up check that you have power when and where you want
it and grounds where they should be. then again it could have been the
used harness. Or the alternator or voltage regulator... Am I being any
help? "}

Deacon
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 02:26:49 PDT
From: "WILLIAM WHITED"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - MAJOR electrical problems...

I had a similar problem with the solenoid on my 74, when I had bought
the new one I didn't pay as close attention to were the 2 small wires
went on it. I hooked it up and it worked for about 2 days and would
suck the battery dead, also it melted the neg terminal on my battery and
smoke smoke was coming out of the solenoid. Got a new one, new terminal
cable, new battery, and had a friend help and tried moving the little
wires around and fixed it right up. haven't had a problem since. Just
some of my thoughts good luck.

74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390 2BRL AT "SEMPER FI"

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