61-79-list-digest Wednesday, July 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 372



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Ford clutch options
FTE 61-79 - 30 deg Seats
FTE 61-79 - Rockers / FE
FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question
FTE 61-79 - Cost
Re: FTE 61-79 - would 3.73's be good for 390
Re: FTE 61-79 - would 3.73's be good for 390
FTE 61-79 - 410's
FTE 61-79 - Megalmaina
FTE 61-79 - Oil dipstick
FTE 61-79 - Rear gears
Re: FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question
FTE 61-79 - R12, EPA and R12
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil dipstick
Re: FTE 61-79 - 410?
Re: FTE 61-79 - need to get rid of dipstick location
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford clutch options
FTE 61-79 - Re: wheel, tailgate help
Re: FTE 61-79 - 410's
Re: FTE 61-79 - Cost
Re: FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: wheel, tailgate help
Re: FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question
FTE 61-79 - Back from Bloomsburg!!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: wheel, tailgate help
FTE 61-79 - Re:Rust in rear axle
RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford clutch options/T-18
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: wheel, tailgate help
FTE 61-79 - 1970 F-250 TIRES & WHEELS
FTE 61-79 - 1970 F-250 TIRES & WHEELS
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1970 F-250 TIRES & WHEELS
Re: FTE 61-79 - R12, EPA and R12
FTE 61-79 - R-134 vs R-12
Re: FTE 61-79 - R-134 vs R-12
FTE 61-79 - re:tailgate
Re: FTE 61-79 - Disc brakes for 1961 F-100 2wd
FTE 61-79 - Diff. gears
FTE 61-79 - Muffler time!

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:06:42 -0700
From: "Douglas W. Hack"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford clutch options

>> What I have
>>is a Long-style cover with twelve springs in a circle. It has three
>>cast fingers, with full centrifugal weights. The cover is stamped:
>>Model 11.5 CF.

> You have what I like to call the "chatterbox", the Ford 3-finger 11.5"
> heavy-duty clutch. This is a factory part but I've had two of them and
> HATE them with a passion. Maybe I've just had bad luck, who knows. But
> for my money I'd get either a cheap ol 11" LUK (unless you're hauling
> around a backhoe or something), I have one of those in my F100 and it's
> nice and smooth, or a Centerforce II for heavier applications. Really the
> LUK shud be fine and it's cheap too. NOBODY makes an aftermarket 11.5"
> replacement, and it's just as well.

As far as I know, this clutch works okay (this parts truck was only
driven in the driveway). But I would like to know if other people have
had problems with these. Is this the "12 inch" clutch referred to in
the shop manual, or something else. I am building a vehicle for heavy
towing, so it would seem this clutch would be appropriate. Do the
aftermarket clutches really have any greater capacity?

I noticed that the "throw-out" bearing has a grease Zerk on it. Is this
normal? Does this imply a bearing that can be reused instead of thrown
out?

The T-18 looks great inside, no noticable wear, clean oil -amazing!
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:29:58 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 30 deg Seats

>
> with a 30 deg seat, as the valve opens the actual flow area at a given ift
> (low lifts only) is greater, giving increased low lift flow. it impededs
> flow at the higher rpms/lifts though. flathead builders are known for this
> since they are very limited in lift and actual flow is always impeded by
> the head, and in other engines it is impeded by the piston, but only
> sometimes ( close to TDC)

The 30 deg seat makes a lot of sense for any engine that wont be running
sustained high rpms. If you have a well tuned intake and exhaust tract
for your appplication, it will give that extra low lift flow that can
make the difference.

Short track circle-track guys use them to get off of the corners
quicker, and the difference can be pretty dramatic. Think of how much
time the cam is spending climbing to and declining from max lift. The
more air you can pack in these periods the better.

That's why alot of engines are better running than their design would
merit, their low lift flow is better and pack in more air over the
entire stroke.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:42:24 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rockers / FE

Steve writes: >>Never seen a stamped one either...
Sorry about that - Got my MOPAR's in my memory there - I knew better. I
believe the FOMOCO's are cast on the FE for both the non adjustable and the
adjustable.

Will "old age" apply here?????????

Azie
Ardmore, Al.



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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:47:44 -0400
From: Jay Grover
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question

Hi everyone,
I just got a new (well new to me) 1973 Ford F250 ("Camper Special").
Actually, my wife bought it (at a garage sale for $300!). The people
who sold it apparently were going to change the clutch, but all the
farther they got was to remove the clutch linkage. The transmission is
a four speed with the removable inspection plate for the clutch. I've
taken the plate off and looked at the clutch. It is very thin. The
truck has 108,000 miles and I believe the clutch is original.
My problem is that it looks like part of the clutch linkage is missing,
but I don't know exactly what it is or what it looks like.
I have what appears to be an long adjuster bolt (with a nut for a stop)
dangling off of the clutch pedal linkage near the throw out bearing
lever. The throw out bearing lever has an indentation in it (apparently
to receive the end of the part I'm missing?). I'm unsure of 1) what
part I'm missing 2) where to get this part 3) how this part fits into
the throwout bearing lever without falling out
Also, does anyone have any recommendation for a good replacement
clutch? I'll be using the truck to tow my cars ('80 Mustang drag car,
fairly light, and '62 Impala SS, kinda heavy).
If any one has any info about this model truck I'd appreciate hearing
it. I ordered the Ford Pickup Red Book, so I should have it in a few
days.
Sorry for the long post...I'll try to keep it shorter in the future!

Jay

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:52:27 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cost

Marko writes: >>Yeah, and gas was 15 cents a gallon! Boy I'd sure like to
know where you buy your parts, Azie! And if there are any left! I'd pay
up to a hundred dollars for a good 406! ;

Am I that bad off on the cost of adjustable rockers and appropiate push
rods???????????? I bought a complete set of adjustable
rockers/pushrods/rocker rails for my last 428 that I had in a '76 F150 4X4
Bicentennial Edition, and I thought $2.50 and $1.50 was about correct. This
was in around '87/88, I think.

Yeah!!!!! I'd take a tractor trailer load of 406's at $100 ea. I owned 2
seperate ones. (let one of them freeze and burst).

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:55:20 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - would 3.73's be good for 390

> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:17:25 -0400
> From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - would 3.73's be good for 390

> would a 3.73 gear ratio be good for a 4x4???Its running 31's
> Also would a 78/79 ford 9" fit under my 68 4x4???Did that springs
> change width????What would I need to do??? -- Joe Aka. Fordguy 1968

At some point frames changed in width but I put a 48 chevy bus axle
under a 67 F-100 and it bolted right up (used the frame brackets too)
and even the drive shaft splines were the same and slipped right into
the center slip yoke.

Where you may have trouble is in the width of the axle from one year
to another so the wheels don't fit under the fenders quite right.
Truck frames have been 34" for many years. My F-600 had 34" frame
width too :-)

If you can get the springs and shackles with brackets that makes the
swap very easy as long as the frame rails are the same overall width.
Just drill holes for the bracket bolts and bolt it in :-) Of course,
if the frame rails are the same width the axle should bolt to the
existing springs as well so you really have two options :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hooo!

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:58:19 +0000
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - would 3.73's be good for 390

Joe & Jen DeLaurentis wrote:

> Truck nuts,
> would a 3.73 gear ratio be good for a 4x4???Its running 31's
> Also would a 78/79 ford 9" fit under my 68 4x4???Did that springs
> change width????What would I need to do???
> --
> Joe
> Aka. Fordguy
> 1968 F-100 4x4 302 Np435 Bone Stock down to the wheel covers
> 1970 F-250 4x4 390 Np435 The Beast
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://web.p3.net/~shoman

Lets see, I used to run 33"s with 3.89's and now I have 4.10's with
35"s Both seemed to be kind of in the middle. Running down the highway
it kind of feels like an overdrive is needed and I get about 10-10.5
mpg 3.50''s might help here. With the 4 speed I shift through the
gears rather fast but good exceleration in 2nd and 3rd. With a heavy
load off road it seems like 4.56's would be an improvement. I spend
most of my time on the highway lately so I might go up a couple inches
with the tires at some point 36-37"s to lower rpm a little.

3.73 look like they would perform about the same with 31"s. If you
stick to off highway 3.73's or 4.10's mostly highway 3.73's or 3.50's.
Big help huh ;)

As for the 9" you will need to move the spring pads in to match the
center to center of the springs on your 68. The axle width should be
close ( maybe a little wider, I'm not sure about this).

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:12:05 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 410's

John P. writes: >> Did all Marauders have 410's?


NO!!! Some were 390's. All 410's did have 4bbl's. You know the
intake/carb could have been changed - so could the engine.

>>The guy gave me a quote on what he charges for rebuildable engines. He
wants up to $400.00 US depending on the condition. Kind of high to me but I
am cheap.

$400. is waaay too much for a "rebuildable" FE unless it is a 406, 427, or
428 complete or Cammer. JMHO

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:16:39 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Megalmaina

> Ford Truck Enthusiasts, Inc. received its paperwork from the
> State of Georgia on Saturday. It held its organizational
> meeting yesterday evening and is now operating as a corporation.
>
> Don't expect to see many changes in the day to day operations
> of the site other than improvements I've discussed in the
> past. The formation of a corporation was a natural result
> of our growth and exposure. The possibility of a club still
> exists and is being discussed off the list with some list
> members.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Payne
> President (and still list admin), Ford Truck Enthusiasts, Inc.

Watch him guys, he'll be another Bill Gates before you know it!! You
wont be able to buy anything Ford Truck related without paying him a
royalty!!!! Next thing you know we'll have to call him sir!!!

Lord help us all!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:14:56 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil dipstick

Joe DeL. writes: >>Is there anyway of plugging the block ???

There is a "Freeze plug" that is correct size for this. This is what is in
your truck at that location.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:22:23 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rear gears

Joe DeL. writes: >>Also would a 78/79 ford 9" fit under my 68 4x4???

The "chunk" will bolt into your housing. I'm not sure about the center to
center distance on the spring widths for the whole axle assy. You'll just
have to measure and see for yourself. If you get just the center section
to bolt into your housing, you must be sure that the axle splines are the
same. There is a 20 something (27 I think) and a 31 spline axle, and I
don't have a clue as to where and when each was used. (I'm not sure FOMOCO
knows).

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:34:07 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question

> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:47:44 -0400
> From: Jay Grover
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question

> I have what appears to be an long adjuster bolt (with a
> nut for a stop) dangling off of the clutch pedal linkage near the
> throw out bearing lever. The throw out bearing lever has an
> indentation in it (apparently to receive the end of the part I'm
> missing?).

Is there a long return spring? The long threaded rod should have a
rounded end on it that fits into the throwout lever. The return
spring is the only thing holding them together. Properly adjusted
the rod should be loose fitting in the lever so that at the pedal
there is an inch or so of free travel before engaging the clutch
diaphram or fingers. The return spring is what keeps it together and
allows this free play. Most auto parts have generic return springs
you can get for a buck or two.


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hooo!

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:04:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: bkirking bcm.tmc.edu
Subject: FTE 61-79 - R12, EPA and R12

JUMPINFORD aol.com posted:

>One
>suggestion though, Latest word is that the EPA has admitted they were wrong
>about R-12 and the so-called damaging effects to the Ozone. they confirmed
>what anyone trained to use R-12 knows. R-12 is heavier than air, so how does
>it get into the atmosphere to do damage.

Where did you hear this? I have been searching the EPA website in vain and
have found nothing like this. The 'latest news' page was last updated July 1 and I
found nothing there mentioning this. I did, however, find that the EPA has a Myth
/Fact page where the EPA contends that atmospheric mixing takes CFS high
enough to do what ever it is that is supposed to be so bad:

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:31:45 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil dipstick

Can't get through to shoman P3..net, so am responding via the FTE.

You write: >>You lost me..On the 390 from the car the dipstick goes in next
to the oil filter adapter it looks like a chamfered hole are we talking the
same area???,,

Yep!!! A very small "freeze plug" type of plug in the truck where the cars
dip stick enters the block. (At least this is where my '76 F150 4X4 with
360 FE had it. (The blocks for cars/trucks were the same casting, so I'm
sure that there is a hole there in your trucks block with a "freeze plug"
type plug in it to keep oil from coming out) You can purchase freeze plugs
in a great many sizes and I think you need a 3/8"(may be a 1/4") plug for
your car block when you install the truck oil pan with the dipstick in the
pan. If you don't want to do this, just leave both dipsticks in. It won't
hurt anything.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:31:53 -0700
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 410?

At 03:18 PM 13/07/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Marko, did you say you got your 410 from a Murcury Marauder? I found one
>in the junkyard saturday and was not sure exactly. The engine did not
>have anything on it giving its size. It had a two barrel carb and tall
>valve covers with Mercury stamped on them. Did all Marauders have 410's?
>
>The guy gave me a quote on what he charges for rebuildable engines. He
>wants up to $400.00 US depending on the condition. Kind of high to me but
>I am cheap.
>
>Jon E. Purut
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>
No, Mercury Marauders came with 390's, 410's, and 428's depending on the
year. If your car is a 66 or 67 with an M code motor then it's probly a
410. My aircleaner said Marauder 410 * 4V (what a nice sticker, I got a
new one from Osborns). The way to really tell is, if you take the engine
out, see if the flywheel/flexplate is counterweighted. If so, you have a
410 or a 428.

The tall Merc valve covers are somtheing special. I wonder where the 2bbl
carb came from, I never heard of marauders with 2bbls.

As for the cost, $400 US is a bit much, unless it has under 100k on it and
has never been cracked open, and is a 410 or a 428.


marko in vancouver
marko dsm.ca

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:32:51 -0700
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - need to get rid of dipstick location

At 08:25 AM 14/07/98 -0400, you wrote:
>While puttin my 390 together(390 out of a mercury monterey) i noticed
>the oil dipstick goes through the block but my trucks pan the dipstick
>goes through the pan....Is there anyway of plugging the block ???
>--
>Joe
>Aka. Fordguy
>1968 F-100 4x4 302 Np435 Bone Stock down to the wheel covers
>1970 F-250 4x4 390 Np435 The Beast
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Joe, just use a freeze plug with lotsa aircraft gasket sealer on it.


marko

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:37:05 -0700
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford clutch options

At 09:06 AM 14/07/98 -0700, you wrote:
>As far as I know, this clutch works okay (this parts truck was only
>driven in the driveway). But I would like to know if other people have
>had problems with these.

If it ain't broke, don't fix. Maybe yours works fine.

Is this the "12 inch" clutch referred to in
>the shop manual, or something else.

No, the 12" clutch needs a bigger flywheel. This is the 11.5" clutch which
you just don't see in the manual. Trust me, that's what the guy at Ford
told me. BTW you can still get rebilt sets of this clutch from Ford. It's
very heavy duty.

I am building a vehicle for heavy
>towing, so it would seem this clutch would be appropriate. Do the
>aftermarket clutches really have any greater capacity?

If this clutch works for you okay, it shud be just fine.

>
>I noticed that the "throw-out" bearing has a grease Zerk on it. Is this
>normal? Does this imply a bearing that can be reused instead of thrown
>out?
>
This is good. You have the more expensive h.d. throw bearing. If there's
nothing wrong with it you can reuse it with no problems. Don't over-over
grease it, cuz it could foul the clutch somehow.

>The T-18 looks great inside, no noticable wear, clean oil -amazing!
Congrats! But those t-18's were built not to wear.

marko in vancouver


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:39:57 -0500
From: lordjanusz juno.com (Paul M Radecki)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: wheel, tailgate help

>Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:17:57 +0000
>From: "Jay Fleming"
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - wheel, tailgate help
>
>I have a couple of questions regarding my '72 f-100. First, what
>year's wheels will fit this model. Someone near here has a set of
>'97 16" wheels with the 5-bolt pattern for sale cheap. Will these
>fit?
>
No, they won't fit. '97-up F150s have a metric bolt circle (!?!)
and will not interchange with older trucks. I'm sure Dearborn had a good
reason, but they didn't tell me what it is...The good news is, almost any
pre-97 15" 5-lug should bolt right on. I have mid-'70s factory alloy
wheels on my '94 F150, and that truck's original wheels on my '73 F100.
Cheap yet cool; both trucks look like I spent a fortune on custom
wheels.
Factory wheels can be had on the cheap from customizers (they take
them off when guys buy high-zoot aftermarket wheels). That's how I got
mine: 4 alloy wheels with brand new Tiger Paws already mounted and
balanced for $500. Try speed shops and conversion van manufacturers, or
your local classified ad paper (AutoTrader, or equivalent). Good
hunting!
lordjanusz

'94 F150 (300ci) '73 F100 (360ci) '97 Saturn (my, that's a little
car)

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:40:43 -0700
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 410's

At 01:12 PM 14/07/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>$400. is waaay too much for a "rebuildable" FE unless it is a 406, 427, or
>428 complete or Cammer. JMHO
>
Yeah, even I would pay $400 for a Cammer.

Azie, you really ought to go out and buy one of those $1.50 rockers -- it
looks like you've finally fallen off yours! ;^] $400 for a Cammer!

(you know I'm just havin a little fun, since Deacon doesn't seem to be around)

marko in vancouver


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:43:19 -0700
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Cost

At 12:52 PM 14/07/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Am I that bad off on the cost of adjustable rockers and appropiate push
>rods???????????? I bought a complete set of adjustable
>rockers/pushrods/rocker rails for my last 428 that I had in a '76 F150 4X4
>Bicentennial Edition, and I thought $2.50 and $1.50 was about correct. This
>was in around '87/88, I think.
>
Maybe not. But see my reply to your post about $100 Cammers.


marko ;^]

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:59:35 -0600
From: "Michael White"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question

- -----Original Message-----

>My problem is that it looks like part of the clutch linkage is missing,
>but I don't know exactly what it is or what it looks like.
>I have what appears to be an long adjuster bolt (with a nut for a stop)
>dangling off of the clutch pedal linkage near the throw out bearing
>lever. The throw out bearing lever has an indentation in it (apparently
>to receive the end of the part I'm missing?). I'm unsure of 1) what
>part I'm missing 2) where to get this part 3) how this part fits into
>the throwout bearing lever without falling out
>Also, does anyone have any recommendation for a good replacement
>clutch? I'll be using the truck to tow my cars ('80 Mustang drag car,
>fairly light, and '62 Impala SS, kinda heavy).
>If any one has any info about this model truck I'd appreciate hearing
>it. I ordered the Ford Pickup Red Book, so I should have it in a few
>days.
>Sorry for the long post...I'll try to keep it shorter in the future!
>
>Jay

...............

It sounds like if you can't get the part from where you bought the
truck, then you might want to make a trip to the local wrecking yard. I
think what you are looking for is a hex rod with a rounded point at one end
(to fit lever), and internaly threaded at the other. Maybe you might want to
check into a heavy duty clutch? I belive "Hayes" makes one for your needs.

Michael
SLC, Utah

69 F250 360 auto
69 F250 390 T18 Posi 3.54



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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:18:19 +0000
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: wheel, tailgate help

Paul M Radecki wrote:

> No, they won't fit. '97-up F150s have a metric bolt circle (!?!)
> and will not interchange with older trucks. I'm sure Dearborn had a good
> reason, but they didn't tell me what it is...

And if anyone has any clue what the 7 lug pattern is about please let me
know.

Laters

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon

63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:29:13 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question

> From: "Michael White"
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '73 F250 Clutch Linkage question
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:59:35 -0600

> yard. I think what you are looking for is a hex rod with a rounded
> point at one end (to fit lever), and internaly threaded at the
> other.

Thank you for waking me up! Forgot about that part, couldn't picture
it exactly in my head when I replied. The threaded rod has a crook
at one end that goes through a hole in the pedal linkage. The rod
then screws into the hex shaft and the jam nut locks against the hex
shaft to lock the adjustment, absolutely right, sorry :-( Still need
the spring though so make sure that's there as well :-)



78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hooo!

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:36:09 EDT
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Back from Bloomsburg!!!

Well....I made it back safe from the Bloomsburg Fairgrounds in Bloomsburg,
PA!!! It was an awesome weekend and I cannot wait till next year. TNN was
not there this year because the Penda Points Series does not happen every year
in the same place. Four Wheeler Magizine was there in force....they had
Photographers all over the place. They had mudbogs (Pro & Amature), Tuff
Truck (Amature), and a new addition...Burn Out Contest!! The Burnout Contest
takes place in front of the main stage on 2 large steel plates. About 10
trucks tried to smoke them for about 20 seconds to the cheer of the crowd.
The Winner was a guy in a 1979 F-250 Super Cab with a 460 and 44 Swampers. He
really sounded good too!!! I went to the Parade of Trucks on Route 11 and
Main Street from 8pm thru 12 midnight. They close off the road and make it
one way traffic...only trucks can go. The Local and State Police were there
in force to keep everyone in line. Some trucks were smoking the tires and
muffler rapping.....some got caught doing burnouts (a No No in the parade). I
mainly went for the Tuff Trucks and the Show Trucks, but the Monster Trucks
were cool too. One truck even rolled and took of the whole front end, but was
back racing without a body. It looked like a jungle gym with wheels!!! Did
anybody else go?? If not go next year...its an awesome time. The best part
in my opinion was the bikini contest.....WOW!!! Hope to hear from you!!
Wayne Grabley
1979 Bronco Ranger XLT (38" boggers & 8 lug conversion)
1979 F-350 Ranger Lariet 4x4 (460 CID)
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:38:01 -0400
From: "David Butts"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: wheel, tailgate help

It's a hub cap ?
- -----Original Message-----
From: Don Grossman
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: wheel, tailgate help


>
>
>Paul M Radecki wrote:
>
>> No, they won't fit. '97-up F150s have a metric bolt circle (!?!)
>> and will not interchange with older trucks. I'm sure Dearborn had a good
>> reason, but they didn't tell me what it is...
>
>And if anyone has any clue what the 7 lug pattern is about please let me
>know.
>
>Laters
>
>--
>Don Grossman
>duckdon pacific.net
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon
>
>63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:58:40 -0700
From: tom
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:Rust in rear axle

Michael,
How about trying something that muzzleloaders do sometimes. Get a long rod with a fixture on the
end that is just smaller than the ID of the axle tube. Wrap the 'jag' with fine steel wool and run
it in and out of the tube as much as needed. Then use magnet and / or swab with solvent to clean
up.

Just a thought
Tom
Reno,NV

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:41:58 -0700
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ford clutch options/T-18

The T-18 looks great inside, no noticable wear, clean oil -amazing!
Congrats! But those t-18's were built not to wear.

While we are the basic thread/vein does anyone know how to determine which
speedometer gear is needed in various applications? I have a 66 F100 w/ a
300-I6 mated to a T18 driving a 9inch rear end (gear ratio unknown) with
31X10.50R15's all around and my speedo is giving me a reading of 45+/-2
2000rpm.

John Gillespie

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:05:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: wheel, tailgate help

>And if anyone has any clue what the 7 lug pattern is about please let me
>know.
>

The seven lug pattern is the lowball wheel cover......


Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'63 F100 Longbox
'94 Taurus SHO - SWMBO's new car!!
and since most are listing all thier cars:
'72 Capri - Rockette's Toy, aka - SWMBO
'73 Capri - My Toy / Daily Driver
'73 MGB-GT Our Toy
'70 Torino GT My "New" Car


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:28:33 -0400
From: "."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1970 F-250 TIRES & WHEELS

Do yourself a favor and lose those tires and split rims
before they get you.
Marko -
My monitor must be acting up because it showed your price you paid for
your new wheels to be $ 55.00 each.
I just paid that for USED ones in a boneyard ! ! ! !
Please share with us either:
a) the real price you paid after you have had a time to
think about this or
b) the total price of each wheel after you
deduct the $55 deposit you paid for each
Jerry
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:44:51 -0400
From: Jerry R
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1970 F-250 TIRES & WHEELS

Hey Pat -

There is another option here. I just happen to have a set of 16.5 x 7.5
wheels (non-split rim) that will soon be available from my 69 F-350 Dually,
151" WB, OEM 8-bolt standard Ford issue, etc., etc.
You could probably twist my arm for the tires too !
Jerry

1969 F350 351W AOD PS PB PW PE Yokohama treads
1970 F100 (ret)

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:58:47 -0700
From: Marko Maryniak
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1970 F-250 TIRES & WHEELS

At 08:28 PM 14/07/98 -0400, you wrote:
> Do yourself a favor and lose those tires and split rims
> before they get you.
>Marko -
> My monitor must be acting up because it showed your price you paid for
>your new wheels to be $ 55.00 each.
> I just paid that for USED ones in a boneyard ! ! ! !
> Please share with us either:
> a) the real price you paid after you have had a time to
>think about this or
> b) the total price of each wheel after you
> deduct the $55 deposit you paid for each
>Jerry
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Jerry, not a word of a lie.

$55 each for Rockwell 16" steel rims for my truck, brand new.

And this was two years ago, much more recently than when Azie bought his
last rocker. Or Cammer for that matter.

(Sorry Azie, couldn't resist...)

marko in vancouver
marko dsm.ca

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:06:08 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - R12, EPA and R12

I heard this from my Refrigeration instructor in school, I don't have the
article he read us But I don't think he woulda lied. If I hear anymore I'll
pass it along
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:11:10 PDT
From: "Don Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - R-134 vs R-12

I was speaking to my refrigeration contractor today. He tells me there
is a new refrigerant gas that is a "drop in" replacement for R-12.
"drop in" meaning that it is compatible with the mineral based oil in
most r-12 systems. My biggest problem (converting commercial
refrigeration systems to 134a) has been with the poly-ester based oils.
They clean the system so well that any gunk that has accumulated over
the years lets go and usually plugs the valves or cleans the gunk from
fittings and causes a leak. I cant remember the name of the new gas but
it sounds promising.

BTW r-12 is still used in some countries for washing aircraft...they
blast it from a firehose 200 lbs at a time!!


Don Jones
70 f250 4x4 (tall and ugly)
85 f150 supercab (long and ugly)



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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:31:59 -0500
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - R-134 vs R-12

At 09:11 PM 7/14/98 , you wrote:
>I was speaking to my refrigeration contractor today. He tells me there
>is a new refrigerant gas that is a "drop in" replacement for R-12.
>"drop in" meaning that it is compatible with the mineral based oil in
>most r-12 systems.
>Don Jones

Freeze-12?

A lot of the dealerships use that for retrofiting. (GM in particular).

Mike

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:01:47 +0000
From: "Jay Fleming"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - re:tailgate

>>The second question is regarding the tailgate. Can anyone tell me
>>how to get the large "FORD" panel off of mine so that I can repaint
>>it?
>>
> >Jay Fleming
> are you referring to some kind of chrome trim piece?
> marko in vancouver

Yes, my tailgate has the big chrome panel that covers the entire
recessed area of the gate. Sorry.

Jay
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:09:38 -0700
From: Blaine Strong
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Disc brakes for 1961 F-100 2wd

Steve & Rockette wrote:
>
> At 04:23 PM 12/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >Does anyone know if it is possible to put disc brakes on the front of a
> >'61 F-100?
>
> No one makes a kit, But I'm working on the problem, am also
> working on a set of headers fo the Y-Block......
>
> Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
> '63 F100 Longbox
> '94 Taurus SHO - SWMBO's new car!!
> and since most are listing all thier cars:
> '72 Capri - Rockette's Toy, aka - SWMBO
> '73 Capri - My Toy / Daily Driver
> '73 MGB-GT Our Toy
> '70 Torino GT My "New" Car
>
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Thanks for the response. I wasn't necessarily interested in a "kit"
per-se, I guess. Some old drunk in an auto parts store told me about 15
years ago that it was easy to put disc brakes on my '61 F-100. Maybe he
thought it was a '65. One of my work associates who is also a Ford
enthusiast thought perhaps the front brakes off an early Mustang might
fit?? I don't know. Sorry, I wouldn't be interested in the headers,
because it would mess up my turbocharger setup! Thanks again.

Blaine
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:21:22 -0700
From: "Jim Cron"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Diff. gears

I am looking for 4:09 (my tag says 4:09 but I hear them called 4:10 or 4:11)
gearset for Dana 44 front end, noticed Marko mentioned he was looking to
replace his with smaller numbers.

If you find your new gears, quote me a price on your 4:09 set. Thanks.

BTW, you can get the gears out without a case spreader. Two pry bars, four
hands, and a lot of care will do it. It's not a pretty sight.

Jim





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