61-79-list-digest Tuesday, July 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 366



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: INTAKES
FTE 61-79 - 1957 Ford F??? Firetruck FOR SALE
FTE 61-79 - Oil leak
FTE 61-79 - Lowered F
Re: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup
FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration
FTE 61-79 - Dipstick
Re: FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration
Re: FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration
FTE 61-79 - Vibs
Re: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup
Re: FTE 61-79 - to much oil pressure??/carter AFB vac ports
Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration
Re: FTE 61-79 - Thermostats and Heat Transfer
Re: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup
FTE 61-79 - Intakes
FTE 61-79 - Pwr steering failure
Re: FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration
Re: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup
RE: FTE 61-79 - to much oil pressure??/carter AFB vac ports
RE: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup
Re: FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration
FTE 61-79 - RE: Able TRuck Wrecking
FTE 61-79 - Vibration
Re: FTE 61-79 - Able Truck Wrecking
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: twisted tranny id
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1954-55 F100 Cab
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: twisted tranny id
FTE 61-79 - PORT WORK ON EXHAUST VALVES
FTE 61-79 - tranny id
Re: FTE 61-79 - PORT WORK ON EXHAUST VALVES
Re: FTE 61-79 - PORT WORK ON EXHAUST VALVES
FTE 61-79 - ford performance parts for sale
FTE 61-79 - Tech stuff page
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Expanded products page, 100s of items
FTE 61-79 - INTAKES
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Forgot the URL!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Able Truck Wrecking

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:58:46 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: INTAKES

Nope, the 351W manifold won't fit. You should probably go for an
aftermarket 4V made for the 351M/400 motor. Edelbrock makes both EGR and
non EGR models. I think Weiand also makes a non EGR model. Not too sure if
anyone else does. From previous posts on this list I understand that both
have their drawbacks. My personal experience is with Edelbrock on a certain
make which shall remain nameless but has a logo commonly associated with
mens neckwear and it was positive.

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> From: RANDY D
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: INTAKES
> Date: Monday, July 06, 1998 10:48 AM
>

I am getting ready to change the motor in my 70 F100 to a 351m out of my
1978 F150 . my question is will the intake off the 351w fit the 351m ?
If not what other intakes will fit ? I want to use the 4 barrel
carb off of the 351w ( new ) The carb on the 351m is a 2 barrel and
doesnt work very well . Thanks for any help

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 14:32:07 -0500
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1957 Ford F??? Firetruck FOR SALE

I saw a very nice 1957 Ford firetruck for sale this weekend for $1800 if
anybody is interested. It is located in Damon, Texas (close to Houston).
I can find out more if somebody is interested, I just passed it on the way
home to Austin. It looked like it was in original condition and pretty
nice for the price. I am assuming these were, what, F500s? It wasn't real
big, dual rear wheels but single axle. Email me direct if you want to know
more.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:07:55 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil leak

Marc S. writes: >>I'm having a bit of an oil leak coming from around the
oil pressure sending unit on my 79 300 CID. Any suggestions of what to
look for to fix and how to go about doing it?

Sounds like to me that the diaphram in the sending unit is ruptured. A
very common occurence. A new sending unit is probably in order here.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:12:52 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lowered F

Kevin writes: >>I was impressed at how it helped on these twisted roads
hear in Branson Mo.

Now folks, this guy is probably on the crookedest - hilliest roads I've
ever been on, and I was raised in the hills of Tennessee. Their hills got
our hills beat - hands down.


FOMOCO Content. Never lowered a F series, so I can't help you out, but I
will agree with you about needing it to handle properly in that area of the
country.


Azie
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:14:11 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup

As far as trashing the truck, IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN. As far as the engine
goes, I already know it's the heads, but with 89,000 miles on it I do want to
start over. My question was whether or not I should just buy a crate motor
instead of rebuilding the old one.
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:19:11 -0700
From: John_Waldeck idx.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration

To: 61-79-list

I have a '77 150 straight 6 ..trying to get it nicer since I got it a
month ago. I have this weird acceleration problem. I first noticed it when
I was coasting while on the
highway, then when I depressed the pedal, I felt an obvious hesitation,
then started accelerating again. I then put some of that Techron (heard it
helps) into the
tank the next time I filled it up. Then, the hesitation, almost to the
point of dying, happened every time I pressed on the accelerator.
I even had to change my clutch-pedal-release timing (it's a 3 on the
tree) so that I didn't let go of the clutch until the acceleration returned
after the hesitation....
It's been a real PITA....I replaced the fuel filter on the carb and removed
a big D-battery sized in-line fuel filter...It was great, for one day..
Then the problem returned....it almost seems to be worse when the engine is
warmer...So I'm wondering if anyone had experience this b4...is it crap I'm
picking up from the Techron cleaning stuff from the gas tank ? I'm
wondering if I should put another in-line filter in and put yet another
carb-fuel filter in..I'm still running on the "Techron"ized tank. If so,
maybe I should wait 'till I'm done with this tank.......
Thanks for the help !


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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:24:27 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dipstick

Some one writes: >>Comment on Rab Rawlins note about bent oil dipstick (on
his 300 six I think he said). I can't keep a dipstick in my 360 in my '74
F-250. The original broke off well above the oil level so I found
another.

The dipstick tube gets bent outward from the block and either forward or
rearward from the block causing the dipstick to interefere with the
crankshaft counterbalances or the rods at the crank. The crank will win
this battle every time. Look closely at yours, and compare it with another
one of the same engine configuration that you are certain doesn't break off
the dipstick and try to bend yours to be like the one you are sure about.
This usually works for me.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:28:50 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration

Hey it sounds to me like either your power valve or your accelerator pump has
gone the way of the DoDo. We had the same problem on our work trucks because
the last driver never let the engines warm up before running them. You didn't
say whether or not the carb backfires or not, but if it is then I'm almost
sure that's what your problem is
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:31:39 EDT
From: KSparks902 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration

Try changing the accelerator pump, this is what it sounds like to me.
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:37:02 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vibs

Brett writes: >>Hi everyone, I've got a nagging vibration problem. It used
to occur just at 2200 rpm in 3rd gear, which happens to be about 40 miles
per hour. If I would shift it into 2nd gear the vibration would still be
there. Yesterday it was occuring anywhere between 2000 and 3000 rpm in 3rd
gear, and sometimes it wouldn't happen at all.

Take the drive shaft out, being careful to not let any of the caps fall off
the u-joints, and flex the joints every way you can. Turn the caps on the
u-joints at the rear individually. All movement should be free and
smoothe. If you feel any "lumps/bumps in any of the caps, or if it binds
anywhere you found the problem.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 14:00:51 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup

JUMPINFORD aol.com wrote:

> As far as trashing the truck, IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN. As far as the engine
> goes, I already know it's the heads, but with 89,000 miles on it I do want to
> start over. My question was whether or not I should just buy a crate motor
> instead of rebuilding the old one.

Do you want quick and simple or cheaper?

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon

63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 14:59:10 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - to much oil pressure??/carter AFB vac ports

Sleddog wrote:
>
> can't help with the AFB, but yes, too much oil pressure is no good - wasted
> power, gas, and maybe even parts like oil pump shaft. i imagine that it
> will go down as the pump breaks in though. see if it falls by itself after
> some running time is what i would do. they can be adjusted but i never had
> to do one.
>

Seemed to calm itself down a little bit when the engine warmed up and
idle was reduced. Still pulls 25 PSI at idle (800 RPM) with 10W30 oil
and engine warm. Shoots right up to 50-60 at anything over 1500 RPM.

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:57:01 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Vibration

>>Hi everyone, I've got a nagging vibration problem. It used to occur just at
>>2200 rpm in 3rd gear, which happens to be about 40 miles per hour. If I
>>would shift it into 2nd gear the vibration would still be there. Yesterday
>>it was occuring anywhere between 2000 and 3000 rpm in 3rd gear, and
>>sometimes it wouldn't happen at all. I'm pretty much stumped. I checked all
>>the u-joints, I'm not totally sure how to tell if they're bad, but they all
>>seemed solid and I couldn't see any rust or anything coming out of the caps.
>>My tires are all at the correct pressure and there isn't any mud or anything
>>on them or the driveshafts. Any ideas?

Marko replied:
>Push the clutch in and see if it persists in coast.
>
>My shop truck (jalopy) 2wd does this. The rear slip yoke is worn on the
>spline, and vibrates noticably at about 50-57 mph. Sounds like a cessna
>taking off.

Steve adds:
My '71 F100 (2wd) has a nasty driveline vibration above 70mph, especially
if I take my foot off the gas at high speed.
The u-joints on mine are good, but the slip yoke splines are very worn.
You can grab the drive driveshaft at the splined end and rock it side
to side quite a bit. I've got an appointment at the driveline shop
tomorrow morning to have a new yolk assembly welded onto my shaft and
have it rebalanced. I hope that fixes mine...


Steve
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:57:03 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Thermostats and Heat Transfer

Cooling wars continue with much snippage of Johns origional post...

>4. A calorie is the amount of heat required to raise one gram of water one
>degree Celsius at zero degrees Celsius. As heat is applied to a substance,
>its molecules move faster. If they move fast enough, the substance changes
>states, in our case from liquid water to steam gas. It takes less heat to
>raise a gram of water one degree as the temperature of the water approaches
>the boiling point than it did near the freezing point. In other words, the
>nearer you are to boiling to begin with, the less heat it takes to get
>there, both per degree and in total. Thus my reasoning for running a 160
>degree thermostat instead of 195. There are more degrees from boiling when
>the water begins to circulate and transfer heat.

Yep, one calorie raises one of gram H2O one degree C.
It's aproximately equal to 4.184 joules of energy.
I also agree that the actual amount of energy it takes to raise
1 gram H2O 1 degree C varies *slightly* with temperature and pressure...
But I think at the operating temps we are interested in (Aprox 150-220F)
that you're looking at a rather insignificant effect there.
What small fraction of a percent difference is there in the "size" of
calorie at 150F vs one at 200F? I don't have a chart or the math here in
front of me but if You do, I like to know what difference it really is.
Less significance than a small moth stuck to Your radiator I'd bet...

What *is* significant is that as the temperature differential between
the radiator and the cooling air goes up, the heat transfer increases
as the square of the temperature difference.
That's why if You put a pot of water on the stove with a small flame
under it (not enough to bring it to boil), the water will increase in temp
for awhile then stabilize at some point. As the temperature difference
between the pot and the surrounding air increases, the pot looses heat
energy faster until the amount of energy lost is equal to the amount put
in via the flame. At that point the temp ceases to rise anymore.
If You have a radiator that's at 160F and an ambient air temp of 100F,
that's a temp differential of 60F. With a radiator temp of 190F You get
a temp differential of 90F, an increase of 50%. Since the amount energy
the radiator looses to the air goes up as the square of the temp
differential, a 50% increase is very significant.
The radiator can get rid of heat MUCH faster at 190F than at 160F...
That's why it's much easier to maintain a constant temp of 190 than 160.

I would agree with You that if Your cooling system is inadequate to handle
sustained high power loads, than a lower thermostat temp will increase the
amount of time it takes to reach overheat temps because it takes more energy
to raise the thermal mass of coolant and block the extra few dgrees.
But under continuous load, it will still overheat just as readily and all
the lower temp thermo does is buy You a couple extra minutes of full load
before it overheats.
But, that also means that the coolant temp will vary 50-60 degrees from
light to full load. With a 195 thermo the coolant temp only varies 15-20
degrees from light to full load. That's less stressful to motor parts than
a wide temp coolant temp variation.

>5.

>Somewhere there are performance graphs for cooling
>systems. I never seen them because few laymen like us are interested in
>them.

They are availble for lots of industrial cooling systems. I've installed
lots of radiators and fans for cooling hydraulic stuff and seen plenty
of charts for them. The BTU capacity goes up very quickly as the difference
between rad temp and ambiant air temp increases.

>7. I'll stick to 50/50 distilled water and ethylene glycol year round.
>Etylene glycol doesn't wear out. It gets dirty if contaminants are allowed
>into the system. It gets dilluted if you have a leak. It picks up corrosion
>due to the reaction of metals with water and the chemicals in tap water.
>The more water you run in your cooling mix, the more susceptible your
>system is to oxidation (rust with iron based compounds, those white bumps
>on aliminum).

Corrosion shouldn't be a problem with plain water if You have a sealed
system with a catch tank to exclude oxygen from entering the system.
A good catch-tank system is necessary to good cooling anyway since it
keeps air bubbles from being circulated with the coolant.
With a good sealed system, even a small amount of glycol coolant should
provide more than adequate corrosion protection.
There's nothing wrong with a 50/50 glycol/water mix if Your cooling system
is adequate to the task. For people who are running on the ragged edge
and a small amount of extra cooling capacity makes the difference between
overheat or not, a lesser amount of glycol will provide better cooling
performance.

>8. I probably haven't changed anyone's mind, but I hope that I have
>clarified and justified my position as well as provided some information
>for consideration.

You haven't changed my mind yet, but any discussion that makes me think
a little is good... (-:

> Any practicing engineers may feel free to correct me if
>I have posted any scientific facts that have changed since I was in
>undergraduate school. I'm sorry I can't remember the name of the graphs.
>Nomogram or nomograph comes to mind, but I'm not positive. I'll have to
>hunt my old Thermodynamics book.

If You can hunt up the charts for the change in actual calorie size
for various temps and pressures I'd love to see them. I still think
they are insignificant for the temps we are interested in.
Some good hard numbers might change my mind tho...

Steve
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:58:33 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup

cheaper is What I'm lookin for but if it is gonna takt too long I am jus'
gonna buy a crate because I already work 6 days a week and 10-12 hrs a day on
average
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:03:42 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Intakes

Randy writes: >>will the intake off the 351w fit the 351m

NO!!!!!!!!

Aftermarket only. 351M/400 never had a 4bbl offering from FOMOCO to the
best of my knowledge.

Azie
Ardmore, A.


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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:09:24 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Pwr steering failure

Ox writes: >>Seemed like PS valve was stuck as PS worked slightly one way
and not at all the other.

I think you can still get rebuild kits from FOMOCO for the valve. Proud
you got it fixed. Wasn't aware you had assist in one direction and none in
the other, but it probably wouldn't have helped my end for diagnosis.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 17:15:14 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration

At 01:19 PM 7/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>To: 61-79-list
>
>I have a '77 150 straight 6 ..trying to get it nicer since I got it a
>month ago. I have this weird acceleration problem. I first noticed it when
>I was coasting while on the
>highway, then when I depressed the pedal, I felt an obvious hesitation,
>then started accelerating again. I then put some of that Techron (heard it
>helps) into the
>tank the next time I filled it up. Then, the hesitation, almost to the
>point of dying, happened every time I pressed on the accelerator.
>I even had to change my clutch-pedal-release timing (it's a 3 on the
>tree) so that I didn't let go of the clutch until the acceleration returned
>after the hesitation....
>It's been a real PITA....I replaced the fuel filter on the carb and removed
>a big D-battery sized in-line fuel filter...It was great, for one day..
>Then the problem returned....it almost seems to be worse when the engine is
>warmer...So I'm wondering if anyone had experience this b4...is it crap I'm
>picking up from the Techron cleaning stuff from the gas tank ? I'm
>wondering if I should put another in-line filter in and put yet another
>carb-fuel filter in..I'm still running on the "Techron"ized tank. If so,
>maybe I should wait 'till I'm done with this tank.......
>Thanks for the help !

Your accellerator pump on the carb is probably at fault. Check
it by taking the air cleaner off, with the engine off. Pull on
the throttle all the way 2-3 times. You should either see a)
gas mist in the carb throat or b) gas in the carb throat. If
you don't get a rebuild kit for the pump.



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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:17:06 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup

From: Someone
>As far as trashing the truck, IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN. As far as the
engine
>goes, I already know it's the heads, but with 89,000 miles on it I do
want to
>start over. My question was whether or not I should just buy a crate
motor
>instead of rebuilding the old one.

Lets see. You have a 390 with 89,000 miles (which isn't squat) that
has a knock in the head that may be a $5 rod or a $50 rocker shaft and
you want to know if you should rebuild the engine or buy a crate motor.
Definitely buy the crate motor. I would find the knock and fix the it
but you didn't ask if you should do that. Sorry, given the choice the
crate motor is the way I think you should go.


Deacon
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:38:54 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - to much oil pressure??/carter AFB vac ports

that sounds good. rule of thumb is 10 psi per 1000 rpms

sleddog

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From: luxjo thecore.com[SMTP:luxjo thecore.com]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 1998 2:59 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - to much oil pressure??/carter AFB vac ports

Sleddog wrote:
>
> can't help with the AFB, but yes, too much oil pressure is no good - wasted
> power, gas, and maybe even parts like oil pump shaft. i imagine that it
> will go down as the pump breaks in though. see if it falls by itself after
> some running time is what i would do. they can be adjusted but i never had
> to do one.
>

Seemed to calm itself down a little bit when the engine warmed up and
idle was reduced. Still pulls 25 PSI at idle (800 RPM) with 10W30 oil
and engine warm. Shoots right up to 50-60 at anything over 1500 RPM.

OX


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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:37:10 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup

i vote for rebuilding.

sleddog

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com[SMTP:JUMPINFORD aol.com]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 1998 4:14 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - My first ford Pickup

As far as trashing the truck, IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN. As far as the engine
goes, I already know it's the heads, but with 89,000 miles on it I do want to
start over. My question was whether or not I should just buy a crate motor
instead of rebuilding the old one.
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 18:48:53 -0500
From: Mike Schwall
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - hesitation upon initial acceleration

At 03:19 PM 7/6/98 , John wrote:
>I have a '77 150 straight 6 ..trying to get it nicer since I got it a
>month ago. I have this weird acceleration problem. I first noticed it when
>I was coasting while on the
>highway, then when I depressed the pedal, I felt an obvious hesitation,
>then started accelerating again. I then put some of that Techron (heard it
>helps) into the
>tank the next time I filled it up. Then, the hesitation, almost to the
>point of dying, happened every time I pressed on the accelerator.
>I even had to change my clutch-pedal-release timing (it's a 3 on the
>tree) so that I didn't let go of the clutch until the acceleration returned
>after the hesitation....

Sounds like a carb problem to me. Try increasing the accellerator pump
shot. Are you using the stock Carter 1bbl? May be time to rebuild the
carb. You can get rebuild kits for around $20 at your local parts store.
Try increasing the pump shot first.

Mike

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:54:55 -0700
From: Brian Koss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Able TRuck Wrecking

I believe the name is Able Truck Wrecking. It may be AAA Truck Wreckers.
They are off of Industrial, I think it is depot road but don't know for
sure, in Hayward. The are the second from the last yard befroe the dead end
at the bay. The is a good door pocket on the drivers side door of a white
66 custum cab in the north west corner of the lot. It is sitting
precaqriously on some truck axles. There yard is a mess but they haver a
lot of stuff.


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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:55:27 -0500
From: "Brett"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vibration

Well I think I found the cause of my vibration problem. As Azie suggested I
took out my driveshafts and the front one has a dent in it. Time to call
the driveshaft shop. Thanks for the help.

Brett
76 F250 4x4 460 C6 38's
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:08:02 -0700
From: Brian Koss
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Able Truck Wrecking

Brian


I have a good door pocket & trim fpr 66 Custom Cab I would be willing to
loan out. I am really intereset in getting replacement seat covers with the
Ford Logo in the center. I recently purchase replacement door trim made
from ABS and am only moderately happy with them. I have not installed them
yet but just by looking at them there is going to be problems. The factory
ones have recesses for wood shims. the replacemt ones don't the
replacements are flat. The factory ones aren't. I also have factory visors.


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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 20:11:49 -0500
From: Jim Henjum
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: twisted tranny id

Marko Maryniak wrote:

> You have a different T-18 than I do. My T-18 goes UP, my 435 goes DOWN.
>
> So we're both wrong!
>
> Or we're both right! But anyways, I never knew that older T-18's were like
> that.

Ross

>
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:56:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1954-55 F100 Cab

>Anyway, he was starting to work on the cab and realized it's not in the
>best of shape. Question: Does anyone out there have a 1954-55 F100
>Cab, fenders & running boards that are in good condition. No rustholes
>and must be pretty straight.
>
Where you at? The Great Northwet (yes WET) has a lot of good sheet
metal......

Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'63 F100 Longbox
'94 Taurus SHO - SWMBO's new car!!
and since most are listing all thier cars:
'72 Capri - Rockette's Toy, aka - SWMBO
'73 Capri - My Toy / Daily Driver
'73 MGB-GT Our Toy
'70 Torino GT My "New" Car


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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:56:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: twisted tranny id

At 10:23 AM 6/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>At 08:02 PM 03/07/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Marko Maryniak wrote:
>>
>>> If your reverse is UP, you have a Warner T-18 four speed.
>>>
>>> If your reverse is DOWN, you have a New Process 435 four speed. The NP 435
>>> is heavier.
>>>
>>
>> I hate to say it, but I think you're wrong. I have both trannies in
>>different trucks and both are over to the right and down.

The biggest PITA is when the detent spring gives up, shifting to third
and missing *grind* OOPS!!!

Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'63 F100 Longbox
'94 Taurus SHO - SWMBO's new car!!
and since most are listing all thier cars:
'72 Capri - Rockette's Toy, aka - SWMBO
'73 Capri - My Toy / Daily Driver
'73 MGB-GT Our Toy
'70 Torino GT My "New" Car


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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:14:48 -0400
From: "."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - PORT WORK ON EXHAUST VALVES

Hey Jeff -
Sorry this post is so late.... I meant to ask you this a few days ago but
had a little computer problem.
You said something to the effect that doing some port work on the exhaust
will allow the engine to get past the 4000 rpm range.........also a larger
cam will work nice with the larger intake, carb, and exh porting.....also
all of this work will not be beneficial unless you port the exh ports.
Not being up on *spiffy* things you can do to heads, this porting you
mentioned sounds interesting to me since I was thinking someday about a cam
and carb, etc.
Can you explain what porting the exhaust ports is and what it does ?
...does doing this alone increase HP ? ? ?
I just replaced the exh system and increased the size of the Y-pipe (and
system) from 1-7/8 to 2-1/4....thinking this would make it breathe better
when I did the cam thing.
Does this help or hinder the exh porting mod ? ? ? ?
Jerry

1969 F350 Dually reefer 351W AOD PS PW PB F800 pipes
1970 F100 (ret)

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:50:44 PDT
From: "Don Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - tranny id

Hi

Thanks for the help...Looks like i have a T-18 tranny...(reverse is over
and up) and dana 44 front and 60 rear.
My wife is giving me some weird looks..i just came home booted up the
computer and then crawled under the truck with a flashlight....oh
well...
Body and paint are next!!!!!
Don Jones

'70 F250 4X4
'85 f150 supercab

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:15:29 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - PORT WORK ON EXHAUST VALVES

practicaly all ford engines had a poor exhaust port design,from the 289 to the
460.
most of them have a large bump in the roof of the port,especialy the
429-460,porting
consist of removing this bump and blending in to allow the exhaust to flow
better,
i do this on every engine i build for street or race.if you want a top
performer you can
open them up a good bit in the roof,but i wouldn't go hogwild.a friend of mine
decided to port his own heads,he gouged them up pretty bad,i tried to
straighten out his mess and went straight through to the water jacket,so
unless you're familar with
using a grinder and a rotary file,i would recommend locating a good set of
heads to start with,the c9ve and dove castings have small combustion chambers
and screw in studs.the d2oe heads have larger chambers,larger intake and
exhaust ports,larger
valves,screw in studs and guide plates.the 429 cj heads #d00e have a small
camber,
extremely large ports and valves,screw in studs and guideplates,
the larger ports and valves do take away from low end hp and torque ,but
it helps
on the upper end,such as above 4000 rpm.
hope this helps.
anybody agree or disagree?
jeff grant
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:16:47 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - PORT WORK ON EXHAUST VALVES

i'm sorry,i got off on talking about 460's what engine do you have?
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:25:13 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ford performance parts for sale

429 cobra jet shortblock (2 bolt main), 300.00
429 police interceptor heads 72 model #D2OE,ported on the exhaust side 350.00
351 cleveland aluminum intake,single plane for two barrel heads.125.00
toploader fourspeed,w bellhousing and flywheel for sb ford 550.00

jeff grant
griffin,ga.
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:39:33 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tech stuff page

Hey Guys and Gals...

Well, now that the warm weather is here, sometimes it's too hot in
the house to get to sleep in the evenings. Nights like that I usually
end up propped up in front of the computer until the wee morning hours
when it's finally cool enough to get to sleep...

The result of a few of these "limited sleep" nights was the creation of a
couple of minor tech articles, like; "how to change valve springs and
stem seals without removing the heads", or "transistorized points ignition"
(for those folks who can't put breakerless ignition on their old Fords),
and a "tech links" page with links to a few other tech articles that I
found interesting, as well as ones I've written.
Hopefully more good links to come soon... If You know of a good tech article,
let me know and maybe I'll link it to my page.

If it's too hot to sleep where You're at, and You're bored and wanna
check this stuff out (You ARE bored, aren't You!) goto my homepage and
take the "tech articles" link.

Man, I just gotta buy an air conditioner for the house someday...

Steve
Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

"Light fuse and get away. Do not hold in hand.
Use only under close adult supervision.
For outdoor use only."

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 23:45:45 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Expanded products page, 100s of items

Many members of Ford Truck Enthusiasts have long asked about
discounts on products and its finally done. We don't have a
shopping cart or secure shopping yet, simply a products page
with prices. We're working on the cart, then the secure
on-line ordering.

Included are items for both old and new trucks:

- - Ford Truck Enthusiasts static cling window sticker.
- - Ford Truck And Ranchero Resources book, if you can't find
a part, this book will tell you where to get it. 100s of
sources listed with tons of information.
- - The Working Mat. The manufacturer is offering a 10%
discount to purchases made though our site. This is a
heavy-duty (long bed mat is 90lbs!) reinforced rubber bed
mat with lift up panels which are used to prevent cargo
slippage. Comes with a 3 year guarentee!
- - Several hundred (no kidding) Ford truck items from Jim
Osborn Reproductions. Items from 1996 all the way back to
the 1920s. Ford Sales Literature, Wiring Diagram Manuals,
Assembly Manuals, Service And Parts Manuals, Performance
Manuals, Air Cleaner Decals, Valve Cover Decals, Engine
Compartment Decals/Tags, Emission Decals, Interior Decals,
Jack Instructions, Chassis And Body Decals, Exterior Decals,
Miscellaneous Decals and Columbia Axle Decals! We offer
these items at a 10% discount off Jim Osborn's retail
prices. We only sell these through the web site. Jim Osborn
Reproductions is a licensed Ford products company.
- - Magazine subscriptions to several popular truck mags. We
actually sell these through the Newstand Network. They
guarentee the lowest subscription rates and it helps us.

All these items help to fund our web site and the mailing lists.
Our monthly costs are substantual and we put in a lot of time
with the site so your support is appreciated but not required.
As is our usual practice, we will increase our free services as
our budget allows.

In addition to getting a shopping cart and secure on-line ordering,
we hope to add more products in the near future.

Now returning you to our regular program....
Ken & Peggy Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 23:56:43 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - INTAKES

Forwarded for:
Send personal replies to him, otherwise just reply to the list.

I am getting ready to change the motor in my 70 F100 to a 351m out of my
1978 F150 . my question is will the intake off the 351w fit the 351m ?
If not what other intakes will fit ? I want to use the 4 barrel
carb off of the 351w ( new ) The carb on the 351m is a 2 barrel and
doesnt work very well . Thanks for any help

RANDY
1970 F100 351W ( KNOCKING) :-(
1978 F150 351M ( DONOR TRUCK ) :-)
1960 FAIRLANE ( FOR SALE )


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