61-79-list-digest Thursday, July 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 361



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - RE: Air Conditioner Bracket- Replaceable
FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI
RE: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI
FTE 61-79 - Trannys and Xfercases
FTE 61-79 - Trannys and Xfercases
FTE 61-79 - NEEDED - POWER STEERING COLUMN FOR '65 F-100
FTE 61-79 - Edlebrock
FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic
RE: FTE 61-79 - Trannys and Xfercases
FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic
FTE 61-79 - ATF
RE: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI
Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic
Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic
Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic
RE: FTE 61-79 - Edlebroke
Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic
FTE 61-79 - Strongest ford parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic
Re: Subject: FTE 61-79 - 57-63 (?) 8' "Style" Side Bed Needed
Re: FTE 61-79 - Strongest ford parts
RE: FTE 61-79 - Strongest ford parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Strongest ford parts
Re: FTE 61-79 - NEEDED - POWER STEERING COLUMN FOR '65 F-100
Re: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI
FTE 61-79 - Axle play
FTE 61-79 - Bypassing Heater Core for summer
FTE 61-79 - Re: 67 Wiring Schematic
FTE 61-79 - 1964-66 Ford Truck Interiors
Re: FTE 61-79 - Bypassing Heater Core for summer
Re: FTE 61-79 - Bypassing Heater Core for summer
RE: FTE 61-79 - change of ATF

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:05:06 +0000
From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Air Conditioner Bracket- Replaceable

Thanks Phil,

I havn't taken the snap ring out yet. This weekend after I get the
brake calipers replaced on my Ranger. (Right side, froze up
solid) I live in the middle of no where and bearing shops are
nowhere to be found. The only parts store is an Advance Store
that wants to know make, model and year. There are a few others
like a NAPA, but unless the guy knows you, he doesn't care.
I'm still the outsider, I moved here about 3 yrs ago. If this place
is like where my Dad lives, it'll take at least 5 yrs to get on the
"B" list and 10 to get to the "A". Maybe I'll make the trek to the
"big city" of Raleigh, NC next week. I had to go there
to get my new A/C hoses made. I'm sure they will have
something there. Thanks for the feedback!

-Ted
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:42:09 -0400
From: "Desanto, Phillip"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Air Conditioner Bracket- Replaceable Bearing

Ted, if that A/C Idler Pulley and Bracket is the same one I think it is,
Ford used it for years from the early 60's thru the late 70's..... maybe
longer.
Anyway, The bearing in those comes out real easy by taking out the snap
ring in the back and tapping it out.(it's not really "pressed" in) Then you
can take it with you to a local Bearing supply house, or a "decent" parts
store, and they can get you a replacement. Remember, you want a "sealed"
bearing, just like the original.
Hope this
helps...........Phil
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:04:21 EDT
From: SuperMagot aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI

For those of you who have seen my posts and are curious I have finally taken
my truck up to the speedway and ran it a few times.

The Truck:
70 F-100 1/2 Ton 2WD
460 C-6, RV Cam, Electronic Ignition, Headers, Holley 750, Edelbroke Performer
3.7 Gears.

The Conditions:
appx 5000' , 85 Degrees 60% Humidity

The Results:
Best time 16.119 86 mph.

I was slightly disapointed in the times, I was hoping to be in the 15's.
However, this truck launches unbeleivably well, I had better 60' times than
many people running 12's and 13's. (Due probably to the strong low end torque
of the engine)

What I learned:
Take slicks to the track for better launches,
I need more cam for my high gear ratio. The engine ran out of steam past 4000
RPM
Dragging is fun!!

- - Mike

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:29:24 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI

sounds like you need more cam, but i doubt the slicks will give you much
better launch than the street tires as you said your 60 times were good.
maybe a different burnout/stage procedure (not going thru water box for
example) might improve the 60 times without the unneeded costs of slicks.

what, BTW is your cam? is the carb a vacuum or manual secondary? a manual
sec carb may improve launch also, or it could bog :(

from the numbers this looks like a great stoplight to stoplight truck.
watchout bowties, here comes a BB ford truck!

sleddog

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From: SuperMagot aol.com[SMTP:SuperMagot aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 10:04 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI

For those of you who have seen my posts and are curious I have finally
taken
my truck up to the speedway and ran it a few times.

The Truck:
70 F-100 1/2 Ton 2WD
460 C-6, RV Cam, Electronic Ignition, Headers, Holley 750, Edelbroke
Performer
3.7 Gears.

The Conditions:
appx 5000' , 85 Degrees 60% Humidity

The Results:
Best time 16.119 86 mph.

I was slightly disapointed in the times, I was hoping to be in the 15's.
However, this truck launches unbeleivably well, I had better 60' times than
many people running 12's and 13's. (Due probably to the strong low end
torque
of the engine)

What I learned:
Take slicks to the track for better launches,
I need more cam for my high gear ratio. The engine ran out of steam past
4000
RPM
Dragging is fun!!

- - Mike

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:31:44 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Trannys and Xfercases

Doug Hack writes: >> I'm building a tow
vehicle based on a 78 F250. I've been told that the old wide-ratio
4-speeds are a better bet than any of the newer 5-speeds - is this so?
Although this is going to remain a 2-wheel drive truck, I'm considering
using a 4-wheel drive transfer case to get the low range, and combine it
with a highway-ratio differential, trying to get a stump-pulling low, and a
economical cruise. Any comments?

If you don't need a 4X4 then a better (IMHO) way to go for the lower
gearing is an Auxillary transmission. The very large trucks with tandem
drive axles use them in a variety of configurations, and I would think with
a little ingenuity could easily be adapted to an F250.

I suggest you call Harold Duncan at: Corinth Used Parts, corinth, MS.
PH# 1-800-647-1260 and talk to him.

If not satisfied there then try Wayne (?) at Performance Gear, Lumberton,
Ms. PH# (601) 796-2026.

I'm not associated with either man nor their business's. Just a satisfied
customer.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.



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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:53:24 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Trannys and Xfercases

This memo is to correct Harold Duncan's business pH#.

Doug Hack writes: >> I'm building a tow
vehicle based on a 78 F250. I've been told that the old wide-ratio
4-speeds are a better bet than any of the newer 5-speeds - is this so?
Although this is going to remain a 2-wheel drive truck, I'm considering
using a 4-wheel drive transfer case to get the low range, and combine it
with a highway-ratio differential, trying to get a stump-pulling low, and a
economical cruise. Any comments?

If you don't need a 4X4 then a better (IMHO) way to go for the lower
gearing is an Auxillary transmission. The very large trucks with tandem
drive axles use them in a variety of configurations, and I would think with
a little ingenuity could easily be adapted to an F250.

I suggest you call Harold Duncan at: Corinth Used Parts, corinth, MS.
PH# 1-800-382-4813 and talk to him.

If not satisfied there then try Wayne (?) at Performance Gear, Lumberton,
Ms. PH# (601) 796-2026.

I'm not associated with either man nor their business's. Just a satisfied
customer.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.



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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:05:48 -0500
From: "Lisa Sharp"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - NEEDED - POWER STEERING COLUMN FOR '65 F-100

MY HUSBAND IS HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME FINDING A STEERING COLUMN FOR HIS
'65 (W/460). HE'S NEEDING IT REALLY BAD, AS HE DRIVES THIS TRUCK TO WORK
EVERY DAY (HE'S A PIPEFITTER AT DOW CHEMICAL USA) AND EVERYTHING IS
STARTING TO WEAR. PLEASE HELP ME HELP HIM!!!!!!!! I AM EAGERLY AWAITING
REPLIES FROM ALL YOU GUYS! THANKS!!!!!

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:03:08 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Edlebrock

W. Ballinger writes: >>for a company that dominates the performance
industry as they do, their quality control, application specific marketing,
and customer service stink. A guy asked (on the BBS) why the carb setups
are so incomplete. The Tech reps answer was "Adapting things to your
application is just good old fashioned hot-rodding..." Yeah buddy, to me
that only applies to finding an old dump truck with a 6-7-1 blower on it
and making it work on mine. It doesn't apply to a fuel metering device
that's sold to fit my application at twice what it's worth.

Hey Bill !!!! Wouldn't be a little PO'd at them would you????????

I agree totally with your reasoning, but I have never personally dealt with
them, so I can't say anything. When spending hard earned cash on something
"application specific", then I expect it to be complete and useable as
purchased.


Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:29:00 +0000
From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic

Ken,

Why don't you post his name, address and number for the list. For that
price, I'd
love to get a set for my '68.

-Ted
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Nah, too much trouble. I have a brand new wiring diagram for 67 F100-F750.
Shows not only the diagrams but the layouts in the truck (3D!). I can't
photocopy them (they're copyrighted) but I can pick up a couple (the printer
is just 5 miles away) and mail them. He has 49-68 diagrams and they sell
for
about $5-$7 (I think).

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:39:23 -0700
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Trannys and Xfercases

Did not catch were Doug was located at, but following with Azie's thought
of an aux. tranny. There is a company here in the San Diego area called
Gear Venders that specializes in over/under drives and the nice part is
their web page: www.gearvendors.com even
gives you prices with various setups.

John


If you don't need a 4X4 then a better (IMHO) way to go for the lower
gearing is an Auxillary transmission. The very large trucks with tandem
drive axles use them in a variety of configurations, and I would think with
a little ingenuity could easily be adapted to an F250.

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 08:45:10 -0700
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic

Hey Ken, I agree w/ Ted. Don't be a Bogart.
Gimme gimme so I can fix my '66 F100.


Nah, too much trouble. I have a brand new wiring diagram for 67 F100-F750.
Shows not only the diagrams but the layouts in the truck (3D!). I can't
photocopy them (they're copyrighted) but I can pick up a couple (the printer
is just 5 miles away) and mail them. He has 49-68 diagrams and they sell
for
about $5-$7 (I think).


John

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:49:45 -0400
From: am14 chrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ATF

J Elliott writes: >>Has anyone had experience with changing from type F in
a late '60's C-6 to Dexron/Mercon III? I have seen some info that indicates
the only difference will be smoother (gentler) shifts. On the other hand,
reading between the lines makes me think there could be some 'slippage'
with the later type. I am curious since the price of type F has escalated
in my area in the last few months to twice that of D/M III, and I am
getting ready to do a total fluid/filter change.

This will probably start a "flame War", but what the heck!!!!!!!

I've been building auto's of every domestic type for the last 35 or so
years and this is what I've practiced:

I use type F in everything I build that I know will have "Severe Duty"
(hotrodders - heavy haulers - and mudders - and anything I suspect gets
abused). I always make this clear to the owners prior to doing it. I've had
exceptionally good results. Some of the shift kit manufactuers I use
recommend type F with one quart of Synthetic 30weight motor oil in all
applications. From what I've read the type F is thinner and gives much
better and firmer shifts. This gives longevity to the clutches, and this
is where most automatic failures occur. I have no firm facts as to why the
synthetic 30 motor oil is recommended, but I suspect it is for lubrication
qualities of some very specific load bearing thrust bearings.

If I am building a vehicle that will never see any abuse, then I follow the
manufactuers recommended fluid use.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:57:01 -0600
From: "Branscome, Walter, J. SSG"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI

Just for the fun of it I ran my truck through the 1/4 several times last
year. I found out by talking to some of the draggers there at the track
that if your running street tires that you should not go through the
water. Go around it back up do a very quick burnout just to heat the
tires up alittle and then stage. I dropped almost 3/10ths that way.

> ----------
> From: Sleddog[SMTP:kevkem epix.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 8:29 AM
> To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI
>
> sounds like you need more cam, but i doubt the slicks will give you
> much
> better launch than the street tires as you said your 60 times were
> good.
> maybe a different burnout/stage procedure (not going thru water box
> for
> example) might improve the 60 times without the unneeded costs of
> slicks.
>
> what, BTW is your cam? is the carb a vacuum or manual secondary? a
> manual
> sec carb may improve launch also, or it could bog :(
>
> from the numbers this looks like a great stoplight to stoplight truck.
>
> watchout bowties, here comes a BB ford truck!
>
> sleddog
>
> ----------
> From: SuperMagot aol.com[SMTP:SuperMagot aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 10:04 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI
>
> For those of you who have seen my posts and are curious I have finally
>
> taken
> my truck up to the speedway and ran it a few times.
>
> The Truck:
> 70 F-100 1/2 Ton 2WD
> 460 C-6, RV Cam, Electronic Ignition, Headers, Holley 750, Edelbroke
> Performer
> 3.7 Gears.
>
> The Conditions:
> appx 5000' , 85 Degrees 60% Humidity
>
> The Results:
> Best time 16.119 86 mph.
>
> I was slightly disapointed in the times, I was hoping to be in the
> 15's.
> However, this truck launches unbeleivably well, I had better 60' times
> than
> many people running 12's and 13's. (Due probably to the strong low
> end
> torque
> of the engine)
>
> What I learned:
> Take slicks to the track for better launches,
> I need more cam for my high gear ratio. The engine ran out of steam
> past
> 4000
> RPM
> Dragging is fun!!
>
> - Mike
>
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 09:31:46 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic

>
>Nah, too much trouble. I have a brand new wiring diagram for 67 F100-F750.
>Shows not only the diagrams but the layouts in the truck (3D!). I can't
>photocopy them (they're copyrighted) but I can pick up a couple (the printer
>is just 5 miles away) and mail them. He has 49-68 diagrams and they sell
for
>about $5-$7 (I think).
>
>Ken Payne

O.K. Ken, when are you going to start selling these through the web site??
I could use one for the 66.

I found one for my 74 at a swap meet for $10.00.
Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie
Mesa, AZ

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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 13:02:13 -0700
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic

At 09:31 AM 7/2/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>Nah, too much trouble. I have a brand new wiring diagram for 67 F100-F750.
>>Shows not only the diagrams but the layouts in the truck (3D!). I can't
>>photocopy them (they're copyrighted) but I can pick up a couple (the printer
>>is just 5 miles away) and mail them. He has 49-68 diagrams and they sell
>for
>>about $5-$7 (I think).
>>
>>Ken Payne
>
>O.K. Ken, when are you going to start selling these through the web site??
>I could use one for the 66.
>
>I found one for my 74 at a swap meet for $10.00.
>Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie
>Mesa, AZ
>

This is the guy I mentioned to you at the Pigeon Forge show.
He's going to let me sell them and you can actually get
them cheaper through me than him (by 10%). However, since I
don't have everything set up yet I was simply offering a
source. Its Jim Osborne Reproductions is you want to deal
with him directly, don't have his URL/phone # handy (I'm
at work). If you can wait a week, I'll have his information
on the site, along with the discount. If you want, his
site turns up in AltaVista by searching for his company
name. He uses orginal Ford literature for his reproductions
and I've acquired a few items from his company and have
been extremely pleased. I wasn't going to mention this
deal until this weekend but someone brought up the
subject.

Ken

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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 10:26:55 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic

At 01:02 PM 7/2/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>This is the guy I mentioned to you at the Pigeon Forge show.
>He's going to let me sell them and you can actually get
>them cheaper through me than him (by 10%). However, since I
>don't have everything set up yet I was simply offering a
>source. Its Jim Osborne Reproductions is you want to deal
>with him directly, don't have his URL/phone # handy (I'm
>at work). If you can wait a week, I'll have his information
>on the site, along with the discount. If you want, his
>site turns up in AltaVista by searching for his company
>name. He uses orginal Ford literature for his reproductions
>and I've acquired a few items from his company and have
>been extremely pleased. I wasn't going to mention this
>deal until this weekend but someone brought up the
>subject.
>
>Ken

I think I will wait a week.

Thanks Ken!


Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie
Mesa, AZ

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:25:48 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Edlebroke

welcome to the wonderful world of the aftermarket!

sleddog


W. Ballinger writes: >>for a company that dominates the performance
industry as they do, their quality control, application specific marketing,
and customer service stink.

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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 11:03:12 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic

Jim Osborne is going to get alot of bussiness by the looks of things
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon

63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 10:58:26 -0700
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Strongest ford parts

On Wed, 01 Jul 1998, "Douglas W. Hack" wrote:
>
> A little over a year ago I read an article in an off-road mag about the
> strongest parts for 4-wheel drive trucks. This was not the usual puff
> piece for over-priced new aftermarket stuff -- saying everything was
> great and you should refinance the house. This article talked about the
> original factory options and what could be swapped, and what was the
> strongest and best. It called junk, JUNK.
>
> Unfortunately I've lost the mag. If anyone has this sort of
> information, either from print or personal experience with a wide
> variety of Ford parts, I'd like to hear about it.
>
> Specifically, which are the strongest, widest-ratio manual transmissions
> and/or transfer cases. Years and ID numbers? I'm building a tow
> vehicle based on a 78 F250. I've been told that the old wide-ratio
> 4-speeds are a better bet than any of the newer 5-speeds - is this so?
> Although this is going to remain a 2-wheel drive truck, I'm considering
> using a 4-wheel drive transfer case to get the low range, and combine it
> with a highway-ratio differential, trying to get a stump-pulling low,
> and a economical cruise. Any comments?

About the strongest 4-speed you can get is the NP435, I have heard. It
has a 6.69 first gear. There is the T-98 which is an early Warner model
and then its successors the T-18 and T-19. The T-98 has a 6.40 first
gear and if I remember right the T-18 is 6.32. Not sure about the T-19
but it is synchronized, however that is useless IMO as all these
transmissions first gear is as low as you will ever need. Forget about
the transfer case, first gear is so low you will break the tires loose
if you run into a tough spot before the engine flames out.

As far as identification, the T-series has the number cast into the case
on the upper drivers side behind, but near the bell housing. The 435 is
a little harder to ID and the only reference to a "435" I found on my
'66 is the passenger side PTO plate has a tiny number "435" stamped in
the flange between two bolt holes along with some other numbers.

Application, the T-98 is a heavy duty 50s design. You will not find a
bell housing to mate it to a modern engine such as a Windsor block or
429-460 I have been told. However, the potential does exist to modify a
T-18 bell housing to fit it but I gave up on that idea a while back
because I am lazy and it sounded like a lot of work. If you have a 360
or 390 FE then you should be able to find one. The T-18 and -19,
however, should exist since they were used later and the 435 was
entirely happy behind a big block. Mine is behind a 352 FE so an FE
bell housing is also available. They were used in Broncos as well so
that should indicate that a Windsor bell housing is available.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Birken
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 14:16:24 -0400
From: Jim Freyburger
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 67 Wiring Schematic

You think I may get a cut for starting all of this.....
Such is life.....

Keith Srb wrote:

> At 01:02 PM 7/2/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >This is the guy I mentioned to you at the Pigeon Forge show.
> >He's going to let me sell them and you can actually get
> >them cheaper through me than him (by 10%). However, since I
> >don't have everything set up yet I was simply offering a
> >source. Its Jim Osborne Reproductions is you want to deal
> >with him directly, don't have his URL/phone # handy (I'm
> >at work). If you can wait a week, I'll have his information
> >on the site, along with the discount. If you want, his
> >site turns up in AltaVista by searching for his company
> >name. He uses orginal Ford literature for his reproductions
> >and I've acquired a few items from his company and have
> >been extremely pleased. I wasn't going to mention this
> >deal until this weekend but someone brought up the
> >subject.
> >
> >Ken
>
> I think I will wait a week.
>
> Thanks Ken!
>
> Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie
> Mesa, AZ
>
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 11:20:34 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: Subject: FTE 61-79 - 57-63 (?) 8' "Style" Side Bed Needed

Brian Koss wrote:

> Able Truck Wrecking in Hayward California has the bed you need. It is on a
> '64 4x4 they have in their yard. I was there last week looking for a cab
> for my truck Didn't find a cab but found two good door pockets with intact
> plastic trim for for a 1966 truck for only $15.
>
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I was out and about Tuesday and checked out the two local yards. I came up
with 1 8' "ugly" bed on a 58-9. It was fairly solid from what I could see (
tall grass) the only big problem with it was no tail gate and the passenger
side had an area the size of a newspaper where the bondo had come loose and
was starting to rust. Not knowing what the condition of the bet to be
replaced is I can't say if it was better or not. I also came up with a 6'
"ugly" bed on a 63 complete with tailgate and lumber rack. To add to the
collection there is an 8' "ugly bed on a 59 3/4 ton 4x4 that is for sale.
This one has a gash on the drivers side but also looks solid.

61 F-100 unibody (8') missing dash and has scrape all the way down the
passenger side.
63 F-100 unibody (6') mostly a shell from what I could see. mostly over grown
with berry bushes.

what was left of a Model A ? flatbed and a 40's I think Dodge flat bed under
the tire pile. A 20 ton bucket crane from the 40-50's All gear driven
winches no hydraulics

Now if I could remember who was looking for the bed....

Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
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63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 11:30:39 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Strongest ford parts

Vogt Family wrote:

> About the strongest 4-speed you can get is the NP435, I have heard. It
> has a 6.69 first gear. There is the T-98 which is an early Warner model
> and then its successors the T-18 and T-19. The T-98 has a 6.40 first
> gear and if I remember right the T-18 is 6.32. Not sure about the T-19
> but it is synchronized, however that is useless IMO as all these
> transmissions first gear is as low as you will ever need. Forget about
> the transfer case, first gear is so low you will break the tires loose
> if you run into a tough spot before the engine flames out.
>

As an example of First gear of a 435. I was stump pulling with an 87 F-150 2
wheel drive, 300(6) and 435. I already had wood in the bed and was on
asphalt and did a go nowhere burn out. Behind a BB there should be no
problem getting a load up and moving ( well traction maybe)

> As far as identification, the T-series has the number cast into the case
> on the upper drivers side behind, but near the bell housing. The 435 is
> a little harder to ID and the only reference to a "435" I found on my
> '66 is the passenger side PTO plate has a tiny number "435" stamped in
> the flange between two bolt holes along with some other numbers.
>

The top cover is aluminum on the 435. Dead giveaway.

Does your 66 have back up lights?

Laters
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:41:27 -0700
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Strongest ford parts

As far as identification, the T-series has the number cast into the case
on the upper drivers side behind, but near the bell housing. The 435 is
a little harder to ID and the only reference to a "435" I found on my
'66 is the passenger side PTO plate has a tiny number "435" stamped in
the flange between two bolt holes along with some other numbers.

The top cover is aluminum on the 435. Dead giveaway.

Does your 66 have back up lights?
No and I wish I did

John Gillespie
email: gillespj spawar.navy.mil

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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 13:42:20 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Strongest ford parts

Gillespie, John D. wrote:

> Does your 66 have back up lights?
> No and I wish I did
>

Have you checked the top cover of the 435 for a place for a switch? If not
find a newer top with a switch, add some wire, relay and a light\, presto
instant back up light.

> John Gillespie
> email: gillespj spawar.navy.mil
>


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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 13:55:37 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NEEDED - POWER STEERING COLUMN FOR '65 F-100

Lisa Sharp wrote:

> MY HUSBAND IS HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME FINDING A STEERING COLUMN FOR HIS
> '65 (W/460). HE'S NEEDING IT REALLY BAD, AS HE DRIVES THIS TRUCK TO WORK
> EVERY DAY (HE'S A PIPEFITTER AT DOW CHEMICAL USA) AND EVERYTHING IS
> STARTING TO WEAR. PLEASE HELP ME HELP HIM!!!!!!!! I AM EAGERLY AWAITING
> REPLIES FROM ALL YOU GUYS! THANKS!!!!!
>

Ok Lisa, lets calm down and take a deep breath. We can get you and him
through this. What I need first is a little more information, ok?

It this power steering from the factory or did your husbands addiction to
modifications bring this on? (P/S I mean)

Is this vehicle 2 wheel drive or 4?

Does the town you live in have a wrecking yard? What about a near by town?

Are you and your husbands interest in keeping the trucks column stock?
Would you or your husband be interested in new aftermarket parts?

Finally, What color is the interior?
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 17:02:15 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Finally 1/4miled by truck -FYI

For those of you who have seen my posts and are curious I have finally
taken my truck up to the speedway and ran it a few times.
The Truck:
70 F-100 1/2 Ton 2WD
460 C-6, RV Cam, Electronic Ignition, Headers, Holley 750, Edelbroke
Performer
3.7 Gears.
The Conditions:
appx 5000' , 85 Degrees 60% Humidity
The Results:
Best time 16.119 86 mph.
I was slightly disapointed in the times, I was hoping to be in the 15's.
However, this truck launches unbeleivably well, I had better 60' times
than many people running 12's and 13's. (Due probably to the strong low
end torque of the engine

What I learned: Take slicks to the track for better launches,
I need more cam for my high gear ratio. The engine ran out of steam
past 4000 RPM Dragging is fun!!

Wanna race??? Seriously radials do fine with a burnout and don't lower
your tire pressure! If you reduce tire pressure the tire cup inward
opposite of over inflating..in other words you get less tire on the
pavement
Chris


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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:43:50 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Axle play

Well, I've gotta do the rear axle seals on my '71 F100.
Pretty simple procedure. When the parts house doesn't give You
the wrong seals... Sigh.

Here's my question tho. Both the axles have about 1/8" of end play.
With the rear jacked up You can grab the wheel and move it in/out 1/8".
The bearings are fairly new and are in good shape and they are pressed
firmly onto the shaft. The bearing O.D. fits the housing fairly snugly
and there's no sign that the bearing has been spinning in the housing,
it's just that it is free to move side to side an 1/8" of in the housing...

What's up with that?
Is this normal?
Is there something missing in mine that is supposed to take up end thrust?
I don't see anything in the exploded 9" picture in my chiltons book that
mine doesn't have...

Not sure what to do now.
Advise please...

Steve
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"Light fuse and get away. Do not hold in hand.
Use only under close adult supervision.
For outdoor use only."

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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 19:33:29 -0500
From: "Nils Gore"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bypassing Heater Core for summer

I just spent way too much money getting my A/C on my 73 F100 overhauled,
and when I got it back, it wasn't as good as I thought it should be. So in
my checking, it appeared that some hot coolant was slipping past the heater
valve and into the core.

I live in Mississippi and need all the help I can get, so I pulled off the
heater hoses and hooked them together, bypassing the heater core. It
improved the A/C performance quite a bit.

My question: can anyone imagine a downside to letting the heater core sit
unhooked until the fall, when I need heat and hook it up again? It has some
coolant in it. Is it likely to gunk up or anything? I suppose I could blow
it out with compressed air, if that was a good idea, or plug up the inlets.

Comments anyone?

Thanks

Nils Gore

'73 F100, 302
"64 F100, (to be determined...)
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 13:56:08 -0600
From: Jamey Moss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 67 Wiring Schematic

Ken Payne wrote:

> Nah, too much trouble. I have a brand new wiring diagram for 67 F100-F750.
> Shows not only the diagrams but the layouts in the truck (3D!). I can't
> photocopy them (they're copyrighted) but I can pick up a couple (the printer
> is just 5 miles away) and mail them. He has 49-68 diagrams and they sell
> for about $5-$7 (I think).

and GMPACHECO aol.com wrote:

> Do you have any access to Schematics for a 72?


I have the same schematics that Ken has (67 F100-F750). I bought mine from
either AutoKrafters or Obsolete Ford (I forgot which) for about $6. I also
have an almost completely stripped down '72 F100 in my backyard from which
I've removed pretty much all the electronics, and as far as I can tell all of
the wires match up with the schematics for the '67. If you can only buy
schematics for up to '68, then that should do fine for your '72, but then
again I haven't checked out every single wire on the truck (plus there might
be options available in '72 that weren't around for the '68 schematics).


Good luck

Jamey Moss ra4001 email.sps.mot.com
67 F100
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:09:43 EDT
From: Toydually aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1964-66 Ford Truck Interiors

I am looking for 64-66 original Ford Truck interiors (seats, door panels,
headliners) for patterns with verifiable vin numbers.

Brian

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:12:35 EDT
From: Toydually aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Bypassing Heater Core for summer

If it wasn't a problem before summer, you probably won't have trouble with it
when you hook it up. Especially if your water was not rusty.

Brian
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 19:01:09 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Bypassing Heater Core for summer

Thanks for your message at 07:33 PM 7/2/98 -0500, Nils Gore. Your message was:
>My question: can anyone imagine a downside to letting the heater core sit
>unhooked until the fall, when I need heat and hook it up again? It has some
>coolant in it. Is it likely to gunk up or anything? I suppose I could blow
>it out with compressed air, if that was a good idea, or plug up the inlets.

One thing that comes to mind is a situation you don't want to encounter,
anyway. In a case where the engine is overheating or close to it, you can
help keep the engine temp down by running the heater fan while your temp
control is on high. This can act as a second (small) radiator. The inside
of the cab can get pretty uncomfortable, though. I have used this
technique, but only on very few occasions and only as a last ditch effort
to keep from overheating.

On the other hand, I have (a few times) bypassed the heater. In my
experience, no harm was done. IMHO the only reason to remove the coolant....


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