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61-79-list-digest Thursday, June 25 1998 Volume 02 : Number 354 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo  ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - Axle shims Re: FTE 61-79 - Price? FTE 61-79 - Rear springs Re: FTE 61-79 - Axle shims FTE 61-79 - Running hot FTE 61-79 - Re: 76 f100 running hot in houston Tx FTE 61-79 - RE: concrete blocks FTE 61-79 - Running hot Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? FTE 61-79 - School bus Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? FTE 61-79 - Brake pedal not returning all the way Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? FTE 61-79 - 6-Bolt Wheels Wanted Re: FTE 61-79 - History Lesson Re: FTE 61-79 - History Lesson Re: FTE 61-79 - camber spec for '71 F100 (final chapter) Re: FTE 61-79 - pwr stering on '76 4X4 FTE 61-79 - Regearing re-end FTE 61-79 - '78 F-150 Monster for sale FTE 61-79 - Got me rust free bed!!! FTE 61-79 - Good parts on East coast... Re: FTE 61-79 - '78 F-150 Monster for sale FTE 61-79 - Cool Screen Saver reply:FTE 61-79 - Brakes OK-Suspension shot? Re: FTE 61-79 - Cool Screen Saver Re: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Re: 76 f100 running hot in houston Tx Re: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Re: 76 f100 running hot in houston Tx Re: FTE 61-79 - '78 F-150 Monster for sale Re: FTE 61-79 - Running hot Re: FTE 61-79 - Cool Screen Saver Re: FTE 61-79 - Running hot Re: FTE 61-79 - Running hot RE: FTE 61-79 - Cool Screen Saver RE: FTE 61-79 - Running hot ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:15:00 -0700 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Axle shims >Those shims work great in the back but in the front they can be a pain. All the >info on the drive shaft is right but when you think about it your are rotating >the whole axle. Than then changes the relationship between the top and bottom >ball joints ( Caster?) Hmmm. With all the suspension angle stuff I've been doing, I never even thought about tapered shims in front screwing up the caster... I guess if there's a problem and You wanna fix it correctly You have to set the caster angle on the front axle first, shim the engine/tranny to get it's angle correct relative to the front axle, then shim the rear axle to get that angle correct with the tranny... I think I'm glad I've got 2wd... Steve Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/ '71 F100 flairside, FE390/T-18. "The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it." -- Oscar Wilde == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:20:56 -0700 From: Marko Maryniak Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Price? At 06:14 AM 24/06/98 PDT, you wrote: >OK Guys. Question time. Fellow down here has a 67 F100 Ranger for sale. >Body is very clean with only one rust spot showing on the front quarter >panel. Bed is dent free paint is in really great shape and the interior >is also clean. I put the magnet to it and it has no body putty that I >could find, 120,000K on the odometer. Only drawback I see is that there >is a leak of some sort at the rear of the engine. Cant get to the engine >cause he has it chained down. The trucks sitting on a re sale lot. Want >$4,000 for it. Is it worth it? > >Jay B. 1965 F-100 Custom Cab Long Bed > >JBMAN100 Hotmail.com > Hard to say. $4k is on the upper end of what I'd pay, thats for sure. You can be sure that if the fender has rust the inner cab mount will have some rust too. Also take a good hard look at the inside of the valence. 120k miles isn't that much but 31 years is (I know, I'm 31 too!). Some parts just don't last that long, and it sounds (from the drip you described) that the back seal on the crank is going. It figures, it's made of rope you know. It also depends on how many of those 120,000 miles were on unleaded gas. My 67 352 had sockets for valve seats just cause a lot of the miles were on unleaded. Check the condition of the kingpins, rearend (it's a 44?), etc. $4k is really the upper limit and the truck would have to be straight, original, and really really good. And at today's rates, that'd be $6k in Canada. marko in vancouver marko dsm.ca == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:32:34 -0400 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rear springs David Butts writes: >>Can I put F350 or F250 springs on my '79 9" to get a little lift in the back? Yep!! Must stay within the same years range. Sometime in the late '70s the springs changed widths. As long as you have a, say '77 F150 and you try a '77 F250/F350 spring, it should be a bolt in. Take a tape and measure the width of the spring and the length(follow the curveature here) of your vehicle. When you go shopping for heavier springs, take your tape measure and the diminisions with you. You may need to get the U-bolts along with the donor springs because the length varies according to the # of springs in the package. Deacon, I think, did this some time back. Maybe it was someone else. Can't remember. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:39:48 -0700 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Axle shims It really sounds allot worse than it is, at least on a part time 4X4 system with a live axle system . Unless you plan to do allot of high speed 65+ mph in 4wd it doesn't create a problem. I lifted a vehicle 5" and only used shims in the front and have had no problems with steering or driveline vibration. In fact with the shims it steers better than it did when it was stock height. Besides...REAL trucks have front differentials! ;-) - ---------- > From: sdelanty sonic.net > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Axle shims > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 11:15 AM > > > Hmmm. With all the suspension angle stuff I've been doing, I never even > thought about tapered shims in front screwing up the caster... > > I guess if there's a problem and You wanna fix it correctly You have to > set the caster angle on the front axle first, shim the engine/tranny to > get it's angle correct relative to the front axle, then shim the rear axle > to get that angle correct with the tranny... > I think I'm glad I've got 2wd... > == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:40:39 -0400 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Running hot Ted in Houston writes >>I have a 5 blade factory fan to pull air. You might be ahead to also look around for a 7 or 9 bladed clutch fan in your local salvage yard. I think most FOMOCO engines ( least in the '70's) used the same bolt pattern for the fan to Water pump attachment. I don't think you will ever see a factory A/C car/truck with a 5 bladed fan. This with the shroud is going to cure your heating problem, I think. Azie Ardmopre, Al. == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:19:10 +0000 From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 76 f100 running hot in houston Tx I hope this is the case. It seems logical. I'll letcha know! I've parked the truck for the time being. I do have a spare FE 360 to slide in, but I'd rather have two good engines than have one and one with warped or cracked heads. Thanks, -Ted ___________ tfmf211 murphyfarms.com wrote: > like I said before everything worked fine till > the condensor was mounted. You solved your own problem. I think that at low speed there is not enough air flowing through the condenser and radiator. The fan shroud should help things a bit. == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:23:26 +0000 From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: concrete blocks Thanks Sleddog! Makes sense to me now. I was one very confused individual for a while. -Ted ____________ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:34:05 -0400 From: Sleddog Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Concrete blocks as the cylinder walls get to thin from overboring you need to give tham strength, and filling the water jackets does this. overboring is good in that it gives more room for bigger valves, less valve shrouding, less friction/cid, more cid, among other things. it is in all forms of "short racing" such as pulling, drag racing, etc. sleddog == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:48:54 -0400 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Running hot Michael Masse writes: >>if I'm on the highway going above 55 mph the temp just starts creeping up. Not enough radiator - insufficient heat transfer - or not enough air being pulled/pushed through the radiator!!!!. Is there a build up in the "flues" in the radiator??? May need "rodding" to clean them out. Is your shroud correct??? Is your fan sufficient??? T'stat not fully opening???(restricts flow). All I can think of at the moment. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:52:29 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? I'm going to try this one more time... >OK. Here's a good one. I just came across a 1962 converted school bus, >B600. The For Sale sign says it has a 352 with "88K Original Miles." The >engine is NOT an FE block, looks like a Y Block to me. Is there a Y Block >352? What is the largest YBlock? I always thought 312. >The sign says $2450. It looks like a decent camper conversion and I might >be interested, but why? Something about those 62 Ford Trucks keeps calling >me... > == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:53:52 -0400 From: am14 chrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - School bus Dennis P writes: >>Is there a Y Block 352? Not to my knowledge. I'd bet it is an old Y block 361. If the valve covers are held on by 2 nuts in the center top and about 4" from each end, then it is a Y block, but then you already said that, didn't you. I think that 361 is right for those years large displacement Y block. The Lincoln also ran this displacement/engine for a year or 2 in the late '50's or early '60's. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:11:52 -0700 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? At 11:52 AM 6/24/98 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm going to try this one more time... > >>OK. Here's a good one. I just came across a 1962 converted school bus, >>B600. The For Sale sign says it has a 352 with "88K Original Miles." The >>engine is NOT an FE block, looks like a Y Block to me. Is there a Y Block >>352? >What is the largest YBlock? I always thought 312. > > >>The sign says $2450. It looks like a decent camper conversion and I might >>be interested, but why? Something about those 62 Ford Trucks keeps calling >>me... >> Look on the front of the engine on the driver's side. Is "352" stamped on the block? Ken Payne == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:23:56 -0700 From: sdelanty sonic.net Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? >I'm going to try this one more time... > >>OK. Here's a good one. I just came across a 1962 converted school bus, >>B600. The For Sale sign says it has a 352 with "88K Original Miles." The >>engine is NOT an FE block, looks like a Y Block to me. Is there a Y Block >>352? >What is the largest YBlock? I always thought 312. Yeah, I think the biggest Y-block was 312... It's been a long tome since I've seen one, but doesn't the Y-block have the distributor at the back of the motor? Or did I just dream that? >>The sign says $2450. It looks like a decent camper conversion and I might >>be interested, but why? Something about those 62 Ford Trucks keeps calling >>me... I've always kinda wanted a nice old converted bus/camper. A '62 sounds like it might be pretty cool if You can get it up and running for mot too much $$. It's too bad about Jerry, the bus would be just the thing for traveling around the country following the Grateful Dead... Steve Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/ '71 F100 flairside, FE390/T-18. "The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it." -- Oscar Wilde == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:04:05 -0700 From: John_Waldeck idx.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Brake pedal not returning all the way To: 61-79-list Hello, I just bought a '77 150 supercab 3 on tree w/a 6. I'm kinda fixing it up and one weird thing is the brake pedal does not "come back" up all of the way after I stop pressing on the pedal. I have to pull the pedal back w/the top of my shoe or the brake light stays on and just a little pressure remains on the pads (I've tested it while coasting). I checked the fluid and its ok. Was kinda wondering if it was air but the pedal doesn't feel mushy and the truck brakes fine....someone told me it might be the rear drum springs getting tired....waddya think ??? thanks == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:42:38 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? Thanks for your message at 04:11 PM 6/24/98 -0700, Ken Payne. Your message was: > >Look on the front of the engine on the driver's side. Is "352" >stamped on the block? > >Ken Payne Did that. No. And the engine was clean enough for it to be clearly visible. Azzie replied that 361 is right for those years large displacement Y block. The Lincoln also ran this displacement/engine for a year or 2 in the late '50's or early '60's. I'm leaning towards this explanation right now. I looked for some kind of VIN plate, but only found one for the coach. It wouldn't be the first or last time someone wouldn't know what he is selling. 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1970 Marquis 429 1973 Mustang 302 (tired) 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) !962 Unibody short box (shell) just parked the trailer in my backyard. It's gonna be a convertible! == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:46:43 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 62 B600 352? Thanks for your message at 01:23 PM 6/24/98 -0700, sdelanty sonic.net. Your message was: > It's been a long tome since I've seen one, but doesn't the Y-block > have the distributor at the back of the motor? Or did I just dream that? Yes, it is. One of the reasons I knew it wasn't an FE. >>>The sign says $2450. It looks like a decent camper conversion and I might >>>be interested, but why? Something about those 62 Ford Trucks keeps calling >>>me... > > I've always kinda wanted a nice old converted bus/camper. A '62 sounds like > it might be pretty cool if You can get it up and running for mot too much $$. It is up and running and (according to the sign which was already incorrect about the engine) it only has 88K miles! > It's too bad about Jerry, the bus would be just the thing for traveling > around the country following the Grateful Dead... You must have seen my picture... 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1970 Marquis 429 1973 Mustang 302 (tired) 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) !962 Unibody short box (shell) just parked the trailer in my backyard. It's gonna be a convertible! == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:44:17 -0700 From: Kurt Albershardt Subject: FTE 61-79 - 6-Bolt Wheels Wanted I'm looking for a complete set (six rims) of 6-bolt duallie wheels (7-1/4" bolt circle) Supposedly used on 1960's F-350s Can anybody (a) verify these are the right dimensions and years (b) find me a set? They are for another vehicle, but I'm told these may fit. Thanks in advance... == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:39:42 -0700 From: Kurt Albershardt Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - History Lesson At 07:08 AM 6/24/98 , you wrote: >Does anyone know if there is any difference between the 78 & 79 F-Series ??? Here in smoggy CA the 1979's had catalytics while I believe the '78's did not. == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:02:15 -0400 (EDT) From: JIM HURD Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - History Lesson Rob;......according to my '78 sales brochure, "Rectangular headlights are standard on Ford Rangers." The Ford Custom had the round lights. They all got the rectangular ights in '79. Jim in Central NY '79 F150 (302!) '92 Topaz (3.0l) == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:13:17 -0400 (EDT) From: hurdj VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - camber spec for '71 F100 (final chapter) On Wed, 24 Jun 1998 sdelanty sonic.net wrote: > > Steve; was it much of a project to remove those springs? (Don't > > know if a '71 is similar to my '79.) > > It's easy on mine. > Jack up the truck by the frame until the wheel is off the ground and > get some jack stands under the frame. > Remove the wheel. Put a jack under the axle so it can't drop when You > undo the spring. > Undo the top shock absorber nut. Remove the big nut that holds the > bottom spring retainer. Sounds like my set up. But how did you get to that big nut to take it off? It is inside the coil, and mine has almost 20 years of rust on it. > > It took me about 2 hours to remove both springs, cut them down, put them > back in and get cleaned up for a test drive. That's with air tools, > and I've had that stuff apart before so there was no trouble with the lower > nut being rusted on. (like the first time) Never-seize... What was the first time like? Mr. Torch and Mr. Chisel? Jim in Central NY '79 F-150 (302!) '92 Topaz (3.0l) == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:58:32 -0500 From: "Nils Gore" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - pwr stering on '76 4X4 >Michael Masse writes: >> but upon a closer look, it looks like >some sort of hydraulic ram. I was just curious what the purpose of this >It is a hydraulic ram and that is the way you get power assist on some >models. FOMOCO used that style on their earliest version pwr assist until >the '78 on 3/4 (F250) and heavier, but I thought my '76 F150 4X4 had the >integral type. Been too long so I can't be sure. >Azie >Ardmore, Al. FWIW, I recently put P/S in my '73; I got a P/S setup (pump, steering sector, column) off of another '73 (or '74, maybe) that had integral type. I now have a '64 F100 that needs a new engine, and I want to add P/S to it. According to the Ford Pickup Red Book, 64's had a P/S option. I'm guessing it was the ram-type. I need to figure out a strategy for doing it. If I get a newer engine (302, 351) do I put in "modern" integral steering system? Or should I go for the ram-type? My hunch is that the ram-type would be easier, and would allow me to keep my current steering gear/column. I've seen them for sale in some of the catalogs, though they're not exactly cheap. Can anyone advise me on the advantages/drawbacks of installing this type of power steering? Thanks, Nils Gore '73 F100, 302 "64 F100, (to be determined...) == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:57:42 -0400 From: Garry Bowling Subject: FTE 61-79 - Regearing re-end I need some info from anyone who has changed the chunk on their re-end. I spoke to a guy who has a 66 F100 with a 390 and he changed out the chunk on his rear end (or his mechanic did) He stated it came from a car re-end ie LTD or Galaxy 500 or something like that. Does anyone know what I should be looking for. I have a 352 with C-6 tran and would really like to make it run better. Less RPM and make the trans shift properly instead of 1st 2nd real quick and then into third. Help...... Garry == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:11:33 -0400 From: dgerow coal.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow) Subject: FTE 61-79 - '78 F-150 Monster for sale For Sale: 1978 Ford F-150 Custom Blue Paint, custom interior, padded Flareside bed 4" body lift 3" suspension lift 35" BRG tires American Racing Rims 460 cid - built up, Competition Cam, ported, polished Edlebrock 750 cfm carb C6 auto Tranny Dana 44 front axle, Ford 9" rear. All 3/4 ton running grear w/ 1 ton suspension Needs minor work, some brake work and some TLC Need money for college...not time to fix. Runs and drives. I really need to find this a good home. First $2500 takes it, firm. email: dgerow stonehill.edu phone (508) 565-4015 - -- - --------------------------------- Daniel R. Gerow WSHL General Manager http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.stonehill.edu/wshl http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://wwww.stonehill.edu/~dgerow - --------------------------------- == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:18:49 EDT From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Got me rust free bed!!! Well....I received my bed for my 1979 F-350 4x4 today!!! I bought it from Desert Valley Auto Parts in Arizona for $800.00 plus $400.00 for shipping. The bed is better than any truck that I have ever seen anywhere. It has the dual gas tanks, passenger side toolbox, and no chrome. I plan on taking the entire bed down to the bare metal then prime & paint it as soon as I get time. It is the best money I ever spent...Hell..they even take credit cards!!!! They will send you pictures before you purchase any part over $50.00. Check out there web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dvap.com/index.html Wayne Grabley 1979 F-350 Ranger Lariet 4x4 1979 Bronco Ranger XLT == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:18:50 EDT From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Good parts on East coast... I think that all the heavy duty parts (like Dana 60 front axels) are on the East Coast because of all the snow we get. Alot of people just by a truck to push snow around. I wish I could have traded a couple of Dana 60 front axels for my bed. If my company that I work for gets sold, If that happens I want to move to Arizona. Man could I make alot of money parting out rust free cars and TRUCKS. Ship them to the East Coast (land of the red cancer) and make a bundle. Anyone out there living in Arizona have any good wrecking yards to go to? Have any phone numbers and addresses? Well Thanks And Take Care!!! Wayne Grabley == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:56:29 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '78 F-150 Monster for sale where is it located? == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:01:51 -0500 From: Brett McCoy Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cool Screen Saver Hi everybody, I got kind of a cool idea the other day and have been tinkering a little bit. How would you all like to have our own FTE screen saver with pics of some of our trucks? I found some software that allows me to create one without manually coding everything. So I borrowed a few pics from the pictorial. The result so far is pretty good. The only problems now are, is there a demand for it from the list etc. and do any of you mind me using the pics on the web site? Here is my plan if you all like it. I will create the screen saver and provide it to Ken to post on the web site. I will include a plug for our list and or site. I would destrib this under the share ware rules. You download, you like, send me five bucks or so. I don't plan on getting rich, but would like to recoup some of the cost for my investment in the software to build the thing. Let me know what you think and keep up the good work. I need the education. - -B == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:00:21 PDT From: "bill comstock" Subject: reply:FTE 61-79 - Brakes OK-Suspension shot? Just an idea, the proportioning valve may be retaining line pressure due to grit in line or the valve sticking. ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:26:20 -0700 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Cool Screen Saver So I borrowed a few pics from >the pictorial. The result so far is pretty good. The only problems now >are, is there a demand for it from the list etc. and do any of you mind >me using the pics on the web site? > Sounds like a great idea, and I don't mind if you use my truck, if you want... 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1970 Marquis 429 1973 Mustang 302 (tired) 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) !962 Unibody short box (shell) just parked the trailer in my backyard. It's gonna be a convertible! == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:30:18 PDT From: "genesis sanchez" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Re: 76 f100 running hot in houston Tx YES, I'VE CHANGED THE THEROMSTAT.. DOM YOU REAL THINK THE WATER PUMP IS BAD..... >From owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com Mon Jun 22 18:45:34 1998 >Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id VAA06671; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:45:18 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from mw4.texas.net (mw4.texas.net [206.127.30.14]) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id VAA06654; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:45:16 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from mike-schwall (tcnet05-50.sat.texas.net [209.99.50.50]) > by mw4.texas.net (2.4/2.4) with SMTP > id UAA03205 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:45:19 -0500 (CDT) >Message-Id: >X-Sender: mschwall pop.texas.net >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 >Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:45:14 -0500 >To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com >From: Mike Schwall >Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Re: 76 f100 running hot in houston Tx >In-Reply-To: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Sender: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > > >>>> she's running hot in the city, on the hwy she's o.k' >>>> i've changed the following: >>>>1) added a/c... started to run "hot" >>>>2) changed out radiator with a new one "433"....still running "hot" >>>>3) changed out sending unit ...still running "hot" >>>>4) added elec. fan in front on radiator, to help no luck... >>>> i realy would like to know what you guys think...... >>>>genesis >>>>houston tx '76 f-100 360 long .... > >Have you changed the thermostat? If the old radiator was rusted up, the >water pump impeller is prolly not any better. Might try a new water pump, >or at least inspect the current one. You can hardly find it anymore, but >they used to sell a two part engine flush. Two part as in acid and >neutralizer. I can't tell you where to get some - I haven't seen it in a >while. It's powerfull stuff, I think Prestone used to make it. > >Mike >One more thing, make sure the fins in the AC condenser are straight. If >they are bent and/or smashed - that could restrict the airflow to the >radiator. > >_____________________________________________ > >Email: mschwall texas.net or mike fordfan.org >Home Page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://mschwall.home.texas.net >FORD FAN PAGE: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fordfan.org > >== FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:35:45 PDT From: "genesis sanchez" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Re: 76 f100 running hot in houston Tx NO, I'M NOT LOSING COOLANT..........I'VE FLUSHED THE SYSTEM BEFORE I REPLACED THE RADIATOR....... >From owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com Mon Jun 22 21:45:47 1998 >Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id AAA19942; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:45:21 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from ctc.ctc.edu (root ctc.ctc.edu [134.39.2.118]) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id AAA19923; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:45:18 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from 149.seattle-03.wa.dial-access.att.net (149.seattle-03.wa.dial-access.att.net [12.65.18.149]) > by ctc.ctc.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA16723 > for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:45:22 -0700 (PDT) >X-Authentication-Warning: ctc.ctc.edu: 149.seattle-03.wa.dial-access.att.net [12.65.18.149] didn't use HELO protocol >Message-Id: >X-Sender: dpearson ctc.edu >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) >Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:46:20 -0700 >To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com >From: Dennis Pearson >Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: Re: 76 f100 running hot in houston Tx >In-Reply-To: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Sender: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > >Thanks for your message at 05:13 PM 6/22/98 PDT, genesis sanchez. Your >message was: >> >> >>> >>>>i'm new to the list.... >>>> >>>> she's running hot in the city, on the hwy she's o.k' >>>> > The only things I didn't see that come to my mind are 1)Radiator cap, >2)Thermostat, 3) Water pump...in that order (least expensive to more >expensive). > >Are you losing coolant? > >== FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:38:01 -0500 From: dgerow coal.stonehill.edu (Daniel R. Gerow) Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '78 F-150 Monster for sale Sorry to all, I forgot to post where the Truck is: For Sale: Location: Mass...south shore, near boston 1978 Ford F-150 Custom Blue Paint, custom interior, padded Flareside bed 4" body lift 3" suspension lift 35" BRG tires American Racing Rims 460 cid - built up, Competition Cam, ported, polished Edlebrock 750 cfm carb C6 auto Tranny Dana 44 front axle, Ford 9" rear. All 3/4 ton running grear w/ 1 ton suspension Needs minor work, some brake work and some TLC Need money for college...not time to fix. Runs and drives. I really need to find this a good home. First $2500 takes it, firm. email: dgerow stonehill.edu phone (508) 565-4015 JJJJJGRANT aol.com wrote: > where is it located? > == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:40:12 PDT From: "genesis sanchez" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Running hot THE RADIATOR IS 19.5" x 26.5" x 2" 3-ROW......FAN BLAD IS 6-BLAD 18".....THE SHROUD LOOKS GOOD......... >From owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com Tue Jun 23 08:42:20 1998 >Received: (fordtruc localhost) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id LAA07232; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:41:53 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from fxiod04.is (firewall-user fxiod04.is.chrysler.com [204.189.94.73]) by ford-trucks.com (8.8.5) id LAA07222; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:41:51 -0400 (EDT) >From: am14 chrysler.com >X-Authentication-Warning: ford-trucks.com: Host firewall-user fxiod04.is.chrysler.com [204.189.94.73] claimed to be fxiod04.is >Received: (from uucp localhost) > by fxiod04.is (8.9.0/8.9.0) id LAA04297 > for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:37:17 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from odnpspr2-nf0.oddc.chrysler.com(129.9.202.74) by fxiod04.is.chrysler.com via smap (4.1) > id xma004276; Tue, 23 Jun 98 11:36:23 -0400 >Received: from lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com (lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com [129.9.202.75]) > by odnpspr2-nf0.oddc.chrysler.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/chrysler-relay.1.2-kcd) with SMTP id LAA07544 > for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:40:58 -0400 (EDT) >Received: by lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 8525662C.0055FF0E ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:39:18 -0400 >X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHRYSLER >To: 61-79-list Ford-trucks.com >Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:40:21 -0400 >Subject: FTE 61-79 - Running hot >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Disposition: inline >Sender: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > >Genesis Sanchez writes: >> she's running hot in the city, on the hwy she's >o.k' > >I know you said you had changed the radiator, but your symptoms still >indicate not enough cooling capacity. Either you haven't enough air being >pulled/pushed through the radiator or the radiator capacity is insufficient >or the heat transfer is sufficient. Is your shroud correct??? I'm willing >to bet that your new radiator is too small, but that's mere speculation. > >Azie >Ardmore, Al. > > >== FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:43:56 PDT From: "Jay Branscome" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Cool Screen Saver Use my truck if ya want. I already have it as a screen saver on my puter. ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:04:40 -0500 (CDT) From: bkirking bcm.tmc.edu Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Running hot At the expense of getting severly flammed over this hot topic (puns intended), here is my 2 cents. Since your problem occurs at highway speeds and not city speeds, I think you can rule out things like fan blades and shrouds. If your problem is truely speed related (it could be time related, perhaps you don't spend hours driving under city speeds conditions?) then I would suggest you concentrate on these 2 questions: 1. Is there something about my cooling system that prohibits proper removal of engine heat at highway speeds? I dont think a fan or shroud would really make that big a difference when the air is ramming through at 60 mph! I could see where insufficient coolant capacity or flow would cause such a problem, but you said you aren't losing fluid and have flushed the system to (hopefully) rid any obstructions. Perhaps the water pump belt is slipping at high speed? 2. Is there something about my engine performance that is causing excessive heat build up at high speeds? Think about things like the timing, or low grade fuel. Maybe the place you fill up at is adding something to the fuel to allow them to compete with the low gas prices? Have you re-routed your spark plug wires? I know that sometimes this can cause induced currents if the wire positions are changed and this may through off the timing. Any vacuum leaks that could cause this? I am sure I am going to get lots of comments on how useless these suggestions are, but it sounds to me like you need to start thinking about some of the less obvious solutions. If you can stand to do it, try turning on your heater, full blast (AC off). This may give you enough additional radiator to keep from overheating. Of course, your cab temperature would probably exceed 120 F on a hot houston afternoon!!! Good luck! 2. == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:17:33 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Running hot > From: bkirking bcm.tmc.edu > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:04:40 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Running hot > At the expense of getting severly flammed over this hot topic (puns > intended), here is my 2 cents. > > Since your problem occurs at highway speeds and not city speeds, I If this it true I forgot the thread and was out of line, sorry. I thought it was city driving that was causing the problem? 78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's 78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's 78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! 9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hooo! - -- Gary -- == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:23:01 -0400 From: Sleddog Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Cool Screen Saver you can use mine too, either of them. sleddog - ---------- From: Dennis Pearson[SMTP:dpearson ctc.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 9:26 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Cool Screen Saver So I borrowed a few pics from >the pictorial. The result so far is pretty good. The only problems now >are, is there a demand for it from the list etc. and do any of you mind >me using the pics on the web site? > Sounds like a great idea, and I don't mind if you use my truck, if you want... 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1970 Marquis 429 1973 Mustang 302 (tired) 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) !962 Unibody short box (shell) just parked the trailer in my backyard. It's gonna be a convertible! == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Unsubscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:54:08 -0400 From: Sleddog Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Running hot good advice-just got in on this one, but if it is at speed, then a fan and.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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