61-79-list-digest Monday, June 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 335



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint
FTE 61-79 - Disc brake problem
FTE 61-79 - Speedo
Re: FTE 61-79 - FW: COOLING FANS
FTE 61-79 - Re: 1969 F100 4x4 Power Steering & Disk Brake conversion
RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy - Truck Pull Pictures
Re: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tinted Windshield
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Performance Truck List
FTE 61-79 - radiator support
FTE 61-79 - Gauge Paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Crew cab beds
FTE 61-79 - All Ford Reunion at Ford of Canada in Oakville
FTE 61-79 - FTE in V8 Times Magazine
Re: FTE 61-79 - coil springs
Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint
FTE 61-79 - 79 f250 4x4 for sale
Re: FTE 61-79 - CRANK
FTE 61-79 - Lowering
[none]
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge Paint
FTE 61-79 - NP-205 Rebuild
Re: FTE 61-79 - radiator support
FTE 61-79 - Kingpins on '77 F150
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge Paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - NP-205 Rebuild
RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint
RE: FTE 61-79 - CRANK
FTE 61-79 - Re: coil springs
FTE 61-79 - FTE in V8 Times Magazine
RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint
FTE 61-79 - Saw Ken's letter to Classic Trucks.
FTE 61-79 - power steering
FTE 61-79 - Re: Club Chapters
FTE 61-79 - Re: Radials
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lowering
Re: FTE 61-79 - NP-205 Rebuild

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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 13:15:29 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint

Also try using a 3 or 4" plastic putty knife (available at any hardware
store) in conjunction with the hair dryer. You can even buy that new monster
hairdryer your wife has been asking for, just don't let her know why you
bought it ;-)

sdelanty sonic.net wrote:

> >got some decals on there i would like to take off. anyone know the best
> >way to get them off without messing up the paint?
> >
> >sleddog
>
> A heat gun or good stout hairdryer sometimes helps soften the glue
> so they will peel off.
>
> Steve
> Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/
>
> Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation
> leans on the doorbell.
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58 F-100 292 sb 2wd
85 Bronco 300 IL6(not for long) 4x4
97 F-150 4.6 sb ext cab 4x4
(and several others in progress)
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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 15:41:13 -0400
From: Schottsweb webtv.net (George Schott)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Disc brake problem

Hello to all I have been gone for a while trying to get another project
done (72 Harley FLH) but I have been lurking and checking in when time
permits. The 69 302 swap well lets just say that the local C****os wish
I had'nt which brings me to my problem I was out the other night and was
sitting next to one and when the light turned green I was ready but the
truck was'nt I let the clutch go and the rpm's went up but the truck sat
still I smelled a funny smell shut the beast down and checked it out
long story short the brakes locked up got it home went out the next
morning everything was fine got about 5 miles down the road and the
front end started vibrating rpms went up and again brakes were locked up
any ideas? TIA for the help

Duke's
Fine 69
F-100
302
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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 15:47:55 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Speedo

>Testors has an up-scale line called "Model Masters." You can get it at
>better hobby shops. In that line, they make a Fluorescent Red that was
>spot on for my truck's needles. If it's not quite a perfect match for all
>the gauges in the Galaxie, but close enough, you can always yank out the
>instrument panel and paint them all, then they'll all match. (I wound up
>using it to paint the needle in my notorious Sunpro tach so it matches all
>my other gauges.)

One thing you have to watch is the speedometer needle. If you paint it too
thick it can make your speedometer "clutch" slip and throw it off. I did
this on my '68 Muatang and had to find another speedometer.

SLEDDOG, SLEDDOG, WE WANT PICS OF SLEDDOG!
Come on over to my Back Porch
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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 15:00:09 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FW: COOLING FANS

Thanks for your message at 08:44 PM 6/6/98 -0700, sdelanty sonic.net. Your
message was:
>
>
>
> > I've got about $120 into the entire fan system including hardware and
stuff
> which ain't particularly cheap but when I'm sitting idling in traffic on
100+
> degree days I have *no* worries about overheating so I find the cost to be
> well worth it.
>
> Steve
> Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/

My IROCZ fan is still working great. I'm into it $25 ($20 truck I traded
for it, plus the switch). I have a manual switch, so when I get the
thermostat switch, that will be about another $15. It's hooked up as a
"Pusher" (A song by Steppenwolf), which I guess is not as good as a
"puller," but mine is working just fine. The truck actually seems to be
running slightly cooler. I'm not one to promote GM parts, but it seems a
relatively inexpensive way to get an elctric fan. I think Levi has another
one....


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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 18:20:42 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 1969 F100 4x4 Power Steering & Disk Brake conversion

Hello Galen!

I'm sending to the list as well as your address since I kept getting it
returned...

Good to hear from you!

OK, there are a few small modification you'll need to make, but by starting
out with the good 76-79 parts all at once is smart.....a heck of a lot smarter
than the way I did it!

1) Steering Box. When you get the SB, be sure to pick up the shaft that goes
up to the U-joint near the firewall. I think that you can unbolt the entire U-
joint from the 76 to 79 rig, and re-use it on your 69 column, BUT I AM NOT
POSITIVE. I used my old steering shaft and had to cut it down and re-weld on
my rag-joint flange. I'm hoping the new one will mate right up to the old
column to make this part easy. In order to mount the new box to the frame, you
will have to drill two holes, and make a small "cutout" with a torch in the
lower corner of the front crossmember. When you get the box and hold it up
into place, you will see what I mean. The purpose of this window is to allow
you to use a socket with extension to put the nut on the front mounting hole.

2) PS Pump, Pump Bracket, and pulleys. I'm assuming you have an FE, probably a
360 or 390. Since the FE's were discontinued in 76, this means you'll have to
get these parts from an earlier truck, I think even 4x2 parts here will work
to widen your selection. I ended up with a pump out of a 74 which works fine
with the 79 SB.

3) Detail here, might want to find yourself one of the 78-79 Bronco steering
wheels (14"). They bolt right on our 69 columns, and really make the steering
nice! This power steering conversion will be the best thing you ever did to
the truck!

4) Tie Rods. If you have a lift kit, get the drop-down pitman arm bracket from
Superlift. Now, you'll want to COMPLETLY avoid the tie rod setup from the
76-77 rigs. Everything else is the same for 78-79 (steering box, axles,
brakes, etc.) except these. If you can't find the 78-79 tie rods, then you can
still buy them new at parts stores, which is what I would recommend anyway.

5) Front Axle: I am assuming you will be picking up the entire new front axle
housing. This is really the only way to go. Our 69 housings were set up with a
lame steering knuckle set up that failed constantly. The newer models are 100%
better. Also, the newer spindles won't fit on the old steering knuckles, so
you are pretty much forced to go with the new housing anyway. Don't forget the
whole setup from the 78-79 Broncos will work as well!

You will most likely need to replace the gears in the new housing with your
old ones to retain the same ratio that is in your rear axle, they should fit
right in. HOWEVER, this procedure is quite difficult, better to find a friend
who knows how to set up differentials. They'll need a press in order to take
shims off and on to get the gears aligned correctly. Alternatively, a shop
will probably charge you a couple of hundred dollars since this is usually
about a two to four hour job! Depending on the money situation, you may want
to put in all new bearings, etc. while you have it apart. Also, you may want
to put in new steering knuckle joints. (I think the article by Ken is for
4x2's, so I don't think it applies here, but I'm not sure).

6) Tracking Arm. Be sure to get the new tracking arm, it is different than our
old ones. Also get the frame bracket, it sets the arm about an inch lower than
the stock 69's. You may want to look into a drop-down unit here if you have a
lift kit. Let me know.

7) Shock mounts. While I was at it, I junked my old spring towers (with the
top shock mount mounted to it) and picked up the upper shock mounts from the
77 rig I was using. You have to drill new holes in the frame to mount these,
but I like them a lot better than the older style. Your choice here. Again, if
you are going with a lift kit, you will almost for sure want the dual shock
set up in the front. Stock 78-79 parts from Broncos with the "Quad Shock"
setup bolt right on!

8) Brakes. You will need to change not only your master cylinder (you'll be
putting on the power unit as well, all bolts right on), but also the
proportioning valve (located inside the frame below the driver). You should
grab this unit from the donor truck as well, although I bought a new one at
Ford. You can go with the stock drop down brake hose, but will need to buy new
brake lines/hoses to acommodate the new disc brake setup. These are still
available new at parts houses.

Galen, you have a pretty big project on your hands. I would set aside about 2
months of weekends to do the whole thing. However, when you are done, you will
notice a HUGE difference in the driveability of your rig.

Hope I haven't scared you off here!

There are still a bunch of little things I can go into, but this is the big
stuff. Please keep me informed and I will guide you through as much as I can!

By the way, where are you?

Talk to you soon,

Colorado Jeff















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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 15:26:08 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy - Truck Pull Pictures

At 07:45 AM 6/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>yeh, but first i need to get it all rogether, get the motor finished, etc.
>> then, i need to pull it out the gate. pictures are usually no problem -
>>it's getting the sled out the gate that is hard to do!
>
> Well start with some pictures of You pulling and we'll be patiant waiting
> for the "out the gate" shots. You'll get there some day!
> Besides, a website with some good pics of You doin Your thing can't
> hurt in the quest to find sponsers... (-:

I know there is at least one other member who does some truck pulling. I
would like to see Pictures of anyones Truck in action at a pull!



Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
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1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"
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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 15:32:58 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!

At 01:47 PM 6/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Just got back from the junkyard. Scored a mint dash pad, brake
>peddle arm and choke cable with knob (NOS is $30 on these) for
>$75. The guy is going to check on the Ford A/C unit this afternoon
>and call back with a price. I checked on the misc trim and other
>items requested, nothing usuable. After I get the A/C unit, I'll
>let ya'll know where the yard is. :)
>
>Ken Payne

Protecting that A/C Unit until you can snag it, Ken? :) I can't say that
I blame you.

Later


Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
Mesa, AZ
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1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed.
1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up.
1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box,
Style Side.
1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box.
My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!"
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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 21:07:20 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tinted Windshield

At 10:37 AM 6/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Ken,
>Where do you get that tinted windshield from and how do I contact them? My
>windshield has
>been cracked for about a year now and if I can get a tinted one I will fix
>it real soon.
>
>Shane
>

I just called several local auto glass shops. All of them carried
it since its the same window from 67-79.

Ken


>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 9:01 PM
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Junkyard flunky - resolution
>
>I'm just going to go with a new one. I can get a new tinted
>window for $130-$140.
>
>Ken
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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 22:01:01 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Performance Truck List

Three weeks ago a vote was put up on the web site. The issue:
adding a performance orient truck list. It won by a large
margin:

In Favor: 82%
Against: 11%
Don't Care: 5%

List member Keith Srb is going to administer this list. He
should be starting soon. No date yet, I've gotten a little
behind with extra work and my son's 1st birthday party.
I'll post subscribe instructions when the list is ready to
go live.

Additionally, please not that this list will cover performance
issues for **all** years and models. This isn't going to
be the place to discuss tune-ups, but if you're considering
a radical cam you'll like it.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:28:07 -0500
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - radiator support

> The catalogs list the width of the standard radiator as
19 1/4" and the HD as 24 1/4" wide.

Sorry to all for spreading misinformation! The above statement is wrong!!
The width is 26 1/4" on all radiators (73-79), except for the 240 6 cyl.
that Tony mentioned.
Today I spent some time looking at my radiator and a/c mounting and there is
no way a wider radiator will fit. The HD radiators are taller, the 19 1/4"
and 24 1/4" is the height, not the width.

Steve said;
>The standard 390 radiator has a core size of approx 18-3/4"H x 26-1/4"W.
>The overall rad size is about 25"H x 28-1/4"W.

Steve,
Sounds like we both have the same radiator. 19 1/4" x 26 1/4" Since that
radiator handles your 390 OK , it should easily handle my 351M. Of course
yours is fairly new and mine is 20 years old and in questionable condition.
I also have auto and air to add to the load it has to handle. The previous
owner had removed the stock fan in favor of a flex fan, the only problem I
see with that is that the flex fan has about 2" of clearance all around to
the shroud. I haven't done anything about it because I want to do the
conversion to electric fans. I guess I'll pull the radiator and take it in
and have it flow and pressure checked. Time to head to the boneyard to
dig up some fans. I'll let ya all know how it comes out.

later,
dale c

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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 20:35:52 -0500
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gauge Paint

>(I don't know a person on the planet who could freehand that
>one :).

I don't know how ford did it, but most gauge faces are silk screened. I
don't know if anyone is doing this already, but if not it might be a
excellent part-time "garage business" for someone out there with the know
how and the sources to get the screens made cheap.
It should be easy to duplicate the original, problem is nobody can do this
for just one or two. You would need to do alot to pay for the
tooling............just an idea.

later,
dale c


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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 22:37:53 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Crew cab beds

Forwarded for: Dennis Pearson

Where are you? I know where there is (still?) a 67 short bed for a crew
cab. I haven't seen it, but my friend Levi says it is straight and can be
had for a very reasonable price. I'm guessing $100 will take it. By the
way, I am in Kennewick, WA (The SE corner in the desessert, er, , uh desert.)

Thanks for your message at 10:38 PM 6/6/98 EDT, RDbanesjr aol.com. Your
message was:
>i tried that web site and it didnt work? any suggesttions?

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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 22:44:51 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - All Ford Reunion at Ford of Canada in Oakville

For list members interested in a get together in Canada, I received
information about the All Ford Reunion in southern Ontarios. This
seems like the perfect opportunity. Can one of our Canadian members
take on the job of organizing a lunch or some other sort of gathering
at this show? Also, Ford is looking for 48-50 F1 owners for the
show, please read this if you have one and can attend.

- -Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

On Sunday August 16th, 1998 the All Ford Reunion is being held at
the Ford of Canada head office between 9:00 and 3:00. This is an annual
event that is open to all stock Ford vehicles up to and including the
1978 model year. This year being the 50th anniversary of the F-series,
the reunion committee would like to have a 1948 F1 at the reunion, but
so far have had no luck in finding one in southern Ontario. I talked to
a member of the committee, a 49 or 50 would be great as well. For more
information, contact Martin Brugmans at (905)-844-1952. Trophies are
given for class winners, winners are determined by participant's votes.

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Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 22:56:12 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE in V8 Times Magazine

V8 Times did a 1/2 page write up about in their May/June issue!
Anyone interested can order a copy from:

Linda McDonald
V8 Times
1752 Darwin Ave.
Livermore, CA 94550 or they can be ordered via FAX and credit card numbers
from her at (925) 447-2920

Later,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 00:09:28 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - coil springs

you can get lowered i beams,they used to be about 400.00 for a pair with a
core charge.a lowered 65-66 makes a tuff looking ride especialy with big meats
in the rear
265/50x15 b.f goodrich,
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 00:18:56 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint

the hetgun has always worked for me until here recently,i bought a m715
military jeep truck. this will be my pulling truck,it will have a 460 ford in
it.anyway.i want to leave it olive drab green.it has some letters on it that i
can't get off with a heat gun.
i know there is a decal chemical remover on the market,i think its made by 3M
does anyone know if this will harm the paint?

thanks,jeff grant
griffin,ga
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 00:40:37 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 f250 4x4 for sale

truck for sale in georgia: a friend has a 78 f250 4x4 for sale.it has a built
351m,
4 speed transmission,np 205 t case,ps,pdb,4.10 gears,trac lock in the
front(dana 44)
spiders are welded in the rear,truck is in good cond.has been used as a
pulling truck
has been a consistant 2nd or 3rd place truck,yes even with a 351m,he also has
a
72 429 pi engine and a 70 460 to go with it.the truck only has 74000 miles on
it.
5000.00

thanks,jeff grant

griffin,ga.
770-229-4877
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 00:22:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - CRANK

At 12:53 PM 2/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>YIPEEEE! I GOT MY CRANK SHAFT TODAY! now where's the rest of the stroker
kit?
>>
>>ok, ok, i know nobady cares, but i had to say it.
>>
>>sleddog
>
> Cool, now You've got a nice conversation piece for Your living room
> table until the rest of the stuff shows up!
> I just love getting new fine art for the house...
>

That reminds me of a "conversation piece" One of my ex-roommates
used to have, a 260 Ford block wine rack lamp affair, it fit right in with
the decor, "early 60's mechanics waiting room......

Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'63 F100 Longbox
'94 Taurus SHO - SWMBO's new car!!

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 05:12:15 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lowering

> My daily driver has expired & I was thinking a
>slightly lowered 61-66 4x2 short bed would be a fine
>companion for my 76 highboy, but I think 61-64 would
> require major surgery to lower. Any thoughts?

Actually the '61 to '64 would be relatively easy to lower. Mount your
springs under the axles, and if you want more, use lowering blocks. I helped
my brother-in-law drop a '54 F100 to a real sweet slam 15 years ago. That's
all we did, and didn't spend any more than U-bolts, we made the blocks out
of a piece of 1 inch steel we had laying around. We also took out a leaf
from the rear (leave the front alone) to make it sit level. Rode and handled
a lot better to boot. We dropped it 4 in. in front and 5 in. in the rear
total suspension, and another inch with tires. (215 70r15 in front and 245
60 r15 in the rear)It was eating dirt.

One thing about straight axle rigs, twin I-beams too, avoid deep dish wheels
on the front axle. You'll solve a lot of handling and tire wear troubles.
Deep wheels put more leverage against the spindle, causing bump-steer and
wandering. You can offset it a little with more toe-in, but then you wear
your tires unevenly. IMHO they shouldn't be used on these two axle designs,
but if you must, consider a stabilizer like you see on a 4X4, and set the
toe-in in a little.

To lower a twin-I-beam, you'll need drop beams to do it right. Some kits
will allow you to use your radius arms, some may not. I'd put new springs in
and convert to ball-joint spindles and disc brakes while I'm at it. Then
adjustment is truly possible without bending the I-beams.

Choose your poison, the '61-'64 will be cheaper to drop, but the twin-beam
will ride better.
Come on over to my Back Porch
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:39:21 PDT
From: "eldon eversull"
Subject: [none]

>From: RDbanesjr aol.com

>formed floormats from J. C. Whitney. did u mean the rubber floor mat
>or actuall sheetmetal.
>if it was the rubber mat did it have the emblem
>(gear with lighting bolt) in the center? i need that also

dug,
No, it was a vinyl mat that covered the whole floor. It had no lightning
bolt, holes, or anything, just a pebble design.

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:30:17 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge Paint

> for someone out there with the know
> how and the sources to get the screens made cheap.
> It should be easy to duplicate the original, problem is > nobody can do
this
> for just one or two.

What exactly is needing done here? I have most everything I need to restore
gauge assembles. It is a business I am thinking about starting as I am
Medically Leaving the Marine Corps. I have had great success on the few I
have already done. Please let me know what you need, I would be happy to
try and help you.


John Miller, FoMoCoNUT Gibralter.net
96 F-350 Reg Cab XLT, 4x4, 460 w/ A4OD, My Baby "Baloo"
75 F-100 Reg Cab Ranger, 2wd, 360, C6, Daily Driver "Lucy"
and "always" looking ! ! !
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:29:07 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - NP-205 Rebuild

Does anyone know of a good parts house that would carry a "complete" overhaul
kit for the NP-205 that includes all of the seals, gaskets, and bearings? I'm
not even sure if such a kit exists..... I know Marko had to go to a few
different dealerships to find some of these parts...

Thanks,

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 10:19:39 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - radiator support

Dale and Donna Carmine wrote:
>
> > The catalogs list the width of the standard radiator as
> 19 1/4" and the HD as 24 1/4" wide.
>
> Sorry to all for spreading misinformation! The above statement is wrong!!
> The width is 26 1/4" on all radiators (73-79), except for the 240 6 cyl.

This is not true. My 78 bronco, custom, no AC and man trans had the
smaller width rad. I had one made with the wider core. My rad support,
rad hole, was not wide enough (it was not covered by a plate either).
the holes were there to bolt up the wider rad. The 79 camper special
front end I picked up 2 years ago had the wider hole for the wider rad.
Height may increase also, never checked that, but all 73-79 rad are not
the same width. Maybe there was 3 versions???


OX

> that Tony mentioned.
> Today I spent some time looking at my radiator and a/c mounting and there is
> no way a wider radiator will fit.

Maybe, but seems you allready have the HD radiator then. I'm not sure
why the non-HD rad was used in some apps with AC. Seems weird to me.

The HD radiators are taller, the 19 1/4"
> and 24 1/4" is the height, not the width.
>

Maybe we are talking different widths. I consider width from side to
side when rad is mounted.

OX

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:25:36 -0500
From: "MICHAEL THOMAS"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Kingpins on '77 F150

Good day gentlemen,

I have a '77 F150 2wd which I am trying to replace the kingpins.
I have everything off of the steering knuckle and the locking bolt
that holds the spindle bolt (or kingpin) in place is out too, and I cannot get
them driven out. Chilton says to drive out from the top of spindle.
I figure that I-beams at the spindle will have to be heated, but will
this pose any threat to the I-beam or alignment procedures in the
future? I have tried everything from the hammer and drift to the air
hammer and a tool used to straighten small bends in unibodies.
Great to be back in the mix fellas!! Thanks for any ideas!


M. Dustin Thomas
mdthomas nc.edu
KB9OGG

'77 F150 Ranger, 400 V-8
'91 G*C Sonoma (Up for sale)


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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 07:11:04 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge Paint

From: John Miller
>What exactly is needing done here?

Dale's talking about refurbishing the gauge face, repainting the black
face plate then putting the markings back on (mph, temp....) using a
silkscreening method. I was thinking it would be cool do have a custom
face plate like the old style gauges you can get from Ford Motorsport
called the Masterpiece Gauge Collection. They have 3 styles that are
absolutely bitchen!

>I have most everything I need to restore
>gauge assembles. It is a business I am thinking about starting as I am
>Medically Leaving the Marine Corps. I have had great success on the few
I
>have already done.

Sorry to hear why your leaving the Corps. I hope your all right. What is
it you do to restore gauge assembles and could you do a custom face? I
think if you could, they would sell. I happen to know of a place where a
lot of Ford truck owners hang out. :)
Later!

Deacon
deconblu gte.net
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Nuke the unborn baby whales.
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Deacon's
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 10:26:43 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NP-205 Rebuild

BDIJXS aol.com wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a good parts house that would carry a "complete" overhaul
> kit for the NP-205 that includes all of the seals, gaskets, and bearings? I'm
> not even sure if such a kit exists..... I know Marko had to go to a few
> different dealerships to find some of these parts...
>
Try 4X heaven. 800-800-1679. Seems they specialize in transfer cases.


OX

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:31:29 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint

thanks, i'll look for that decal remover.

sleddog

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From: GMPACHECO aol.com[SMTP:GMPACHECO aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 1998 10:42 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint

Yes, I replied to this yesterday, go to a automotive painting supply house,
they actually have some decal remover. It's in spray cans and costs $9.00 a
can ! or you can use a heat gun and waste your time, it took me about 1 hour
to clean 2 sides of a van.


Mike in Seattle
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 10:44:01 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - CRANK

well, my conversation piece will hopefully be a running truck soon. i have
the new truck almost complete, but mostly in pieces, and about 60% of the
motor parts. still need block to be sleeved and some minor engine parts
and things like fuel system and bolts, timing covers, etc.

hope to have picture soon.

sleddog

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From: Steve & Rockette[SMTP:canzus seanet.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 1998 8:22 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - CRANK

At 12:53 PM 2/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>YIPEEEE! I GOT MY CRANK SHAFT TODAY! now where's the rest of the
stroker
kit?
>>
>>ok, ok, i know nobady cares, but i had to say it.
>>
>>sleddog
>
> Cool, now You've got a nice conversation piece for Your living room
> table until the rest of the stuff shows up!
> I just love getting new fine art for the house...
>



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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 13:15:56 EDT
From: Brazzadog aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: coil springs

My neighbor is just finishing a lowered '66 Merc short box. He used either
Camaro or Mustang II front suspension - can't remeber what he puts in which
project. The rear sits a little high cause if he had lowered it any more the
body would have hit the rear wheels. It has a 400M out of an early '70s LTD
and is a fun ride.

Ben Williams
'78 F-250 4x4, 351M, C6, NP205

It was written:

>Has anybody lowered a Twin I Beam front end
>by cutting a coil or so out of it?
> My daily driver has expired & I was thinking a
>slightly lowered 61-66 4x2 short bed would be a fine
>companion for my 76 highboy, but I think 61-64 would
> require major surgery to lower. Any thoughts?

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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 13:22:16 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE in V8 Times Magazine

Woops! Typo the first time out!

V8 Times did a 1/2 page write up about Ford Truck Enthusiasts
in their May/June issue! Anyone interested can order a copy from:

Linda McDonald
V8 Times
1752 Darwin Ave.
Livermore, CA 94550 or they can be ordered via FAX and credit card numbers
from her at (925) 447-2920

Later,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 10:24:50 PDT
From: "Jay Branscome"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint

If you can get one edge of the decal up then WD 40 also works good and
wont hurt the paint.

>From: sdelanty sonic.net
>Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:04:23 -0700
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>
>
>>got some decals on there i would like to take off. anyone know the
best
>>way to get them off without messing up the paint?
>>
>>sleddog
>
> A heat gun or good stout hairdryer sometimes helps soften the glue
> so they will peel off.
>
> Steve
> Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/
>
> Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation
> leans on the doorbell.
>
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:20:39 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint

Try a craft store for acrylic enamels. Fluorescent colors that match are
available.


John Miller, FoMoCoNUT Gibralter.net
96 F-350 Reg Cab XLT, 4x4, 460 w/ A4OD, My Baby "Baloo"
75 F-100 Reg Cab Ranger, 2wd, 360, C6, Daily Driver "Lucy"
and "always" looking ! ! !
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 18:50:52 -0400
From: "John Peck"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Saw Ken's letter to Classic Trucks.

Ken,

Get ready for a deluge.


John Peck
johnpeck visuallink.com

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 19:00:15 EDT
From: KSparks902 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - power steering

What year donor truck would supply me with the pump and lines and steering box
for my 66 F-100 which dose not have power sterring.
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 18:57:11 -0500
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Club Chapters

This is really directed at Ken and keep in mind the server has gotten ahead of me
on keeping up with the digests so if this has been suggested please forgive. But,
if we are a club, shouldn't we organize into chapters by state? I think the idea
of a get together is a great idea, but I see people suggesting all sorts of
locations.

If we had chapters by state then we could plan these things much easier and choose
which one we want to go to. If you all like this idea then I volunteer to head up
the chapter for Louisiana... anybody else from Louisiana want to help? Each
chapter could do a logo for their area. I vote Ken to be the National Chapter
head.

What do you think?
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 19:33:34 -0500
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Radials

One ol' guy down at the Firestone store relates the following;

Back in the days before we had the highway system daily vehicles didn't run 70-80
or higher.

When running 4 ply or higher at today's highway speeds or greater the bias tire
tends to try to out run the rotation of the wheel in a sense becoming egg shaped.
Hence the invention of steel belted tires that keep this from happening. Thats
another reason for not mixing the tires.

Perhaps you have experienced a rough ride with bias tires at 100mph and wondered
why?

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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 18:55:59 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lowering

> Mount your springs under the axles, and if you want more, use lowering blocks.

On the front end!!! Ilegal in most states and dangerous anywhere...

> One thing about straight axle rigs, twin I-beams too, avoid deep dish wheels
> on the front axle. You'll solve a lot of handling and tire wear troubles.
> Deep wheels put more leverage against the spindle, causing bump-steer and
> wandering. You can offset it a little with more toe-in, but then you wear
> your tires unevenly. IMHO they shouldn't be used on these two axle designs.

Huh? I never had that problem when I was running 12" deep dish astro drags on my
58.

> Ballinger
> ballingr ldd.net

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58 F-100 292 sb 2wd
85 Bronco 300 IL6(not for long) 4x4....


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