61-79-list-digest Sunday, June 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 334



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy
Re: FTE 61-79 - Radiator Flush
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint
FTE 61-79 - RE Guage Paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE Gauge Paint
FTE 61-79 - Street cams
FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Sector Adjustment
RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy
FTE 61-79 - radiator support
FTE 61-79 - sheetmetal repair
FTE 61-79 - coil springs
Re: FTE 61-79 - radiator support
RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy
Re: FTE 61-79 - coil springs
Re: FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine
FTE 61-79 - RE: Crew cab beds
RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy - ramblings
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE Gauge Paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy - ramblings
Re: FTE 61-79 - coil springs
Re: FTE 61-79 - radiator support
RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy - ramblings
FTE 61-79 - 72 F-100 INTERIOR QUESTION
FTE 61-79 - SCORE!
RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!
RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint
Re: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!
Re: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!
FTE 61-79 - FW: COOLING FANS
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Crew cab beds
FTE 61-79 - Thanks for the giggle. (was: SCORE!)
Re: FTE 61-79 - FW: COOLING FANS
Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint
FTE 61-79 - Tinted Windshield
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tinted Windshield
Re: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:58:08 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine

Just ran into a friend of mine and he wants to sell a engine out of a
Ford
Mustang cobra, it has 30k on it but is needs rings and the hole nine
yards, my question is should I offer him a couple bills for it and try
to rebuild it ?
Also would this be too much work to put into my 72' F-100 ?

Uhhh, '93..? Refresh my memory, is this a 5.0 liter or that 4.6 turkey?
Why does it need rings and the fixins at only 30K miles? That seems a
little odd...

In stock trim it pumps out 240 hp and I am not sure about torque figures
but I think its a little over 300. Its a 5.0 so there is LOTS of
aftermarket goodies for it. If you can get it for cheap go for it. I
would get the computer codes from the original car for future reference
though
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:55:25 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint

>From: Sleddog
>Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint
>
>mayne the paint used for plastic models like
>revel and monogram. testors paint is one brand.
>a craft or hobby store should have it. how close in
>color i don't know.
>
Yo Steve:

Sleddog is right about the model paint. I repainted the faded needles on
my truck instruments about 3 years ago with Testors paint, and they still
look great.

Testors has an up-scale line called "Model Masters." You can get it at
better hobby shops. In that line, they make a Fluorescent Red that was
spot on for my truck's needles. If it's not quite a perfect match for all
the gauges in the Galaxie, but close enough, you can always yank out the
instrument panel and paint them all, then they'll all match. (I wound up
using it to paint the needle in my notorious Sunpro tach so it matches all
my other gauges.)

Dave R. (M-block devotee)


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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:05:27 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy

>>since the list is so quiet i thought i'd give you something to read. so
>>whether or not you really care, i am getting my new pull truck tomorrow!
>> can't wait!
>
>Pictures, we want pictures! Especially of your Truck pulling the sled out
>the gate!

I agree with Keith! I'd love to see some pictures of the family Dog
pulling the sled! (-:

I'm glad to see someone else is still out there. I was starting to think
that Stu had really nuked GM and there wasn't anyone left alive east of
the Sierras...

Steve
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:05:32 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Radiator Flush

>>Does anybody believe in using Radiator Flush when changing anti-freeze,
>( I wonder if I just opened another snake oil debate?).

I would probably avoid the rad flush. I'm not much for putting corrosive
chemicals in my cooling system, Just water, antifreeze, and a little
water-wetter for me.
If the rad is that plugged I'd take it and have it serviced by a competant
shop...

Steve
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:16:15 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint

>Yo Steve:
>
>Sleddog is right about the model paint. I repainted the faded needles on
>my truck instruments about 3 years ago with Testors paint, and they still
>look great.
>
>Testors has an up-scale line called "Model Masters." You can get it at
>better hobby shops. In that line, they make a Fluorescent Red that was
>spot on for my truck's needles. If it's not quite a perfect match for all
>the gauges in the Galaxie, but close enough, you can always yank out the
>instrument panel and paint them all, then they'll all match. (I wound up
>using it to paint the needle in my notorious Sunpro tach so it matches all
>my other gauges.)

Cool, I'll go hit some hobby shops this weekend. I got the radio fixed
O.K, but chipped a small chunk of paint off the indicator needle while
I was getting it apart. The rest of the car is in pretty nice origional
condition and I'd like the radio to look nice when she gets it back.
Or I'll be in big trouble...

Thanks Guys!

Steve
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:14:24 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE Guage Paint

OOOH!.............OOOOH!............ OOOOH OOOOH OOOOOH OOOOOH!!! (waving
arms frantically ala Horshack)
I got it! Use Testors flourscent model paint. You want to get flourescent
red. It actually has the correct orange tint. Did mine a while back and
the color match was AMAZING!! Word of advice.... when you paint the guages
DON'T touch the guage face. On my 76 guage cluster when I accidentally
touched the guage face the numbers and markings started to fade. I used
aluminum foil to mask the guage face before painting the needle. Just laid
it in underneath the needle and crimped it around the guage face. Great
project for a rainy weekend. ;0)

Good Luck.
Tom H

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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:46:17 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gauge paint

Well, the radio in my girlfriends '67 Galaxie died a while back
and I just got done repairing it.
Now I'm looking to do a little cosmetic touch-up on it and I need
some of that flourescent orange paint that Ford used on the needles
of most gauges. Does anyone know where to get any touch-up paint that
matches closely?


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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:45:30 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE Gauge Paint

At 04:14 PM 6/5/98 -0700, Tom H wrote:
>Use Testors flourscent model paint. You want to get flourescent
>red. It actually has the correct orange tint. Did mine a while back and
>the color match was AMAZING!! Word of advice.... when you paint the guages
>DON'T touch the guage face. On my 76 guage cluster when I accidentally
>touched the guage face the numbers and markings started to fade. I used
>aluminum foil to mask the guage face before painting the needle. Just laid
>it in underneath the needle and crimped it around the guage face. Great
>project for a rainy weekend. ;0)
>
>Good Luck.
>Tom H

How about the painting the rest of the gauge? My speedo in the 66 has
faded badly in the AZ sun. the only place that still looks good is where
the needle has shielded the gauge from the sun light. At 0 MPH.

Thanks!

Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:17:02 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Street cams

>i musta missed something. wut a ya talking about???? that mumbling you
>heard about how i can't get enough lift in my old motor to get a roller in
>it or even a big solid.
>
>thinking about running it one more year in my new truck to give more time
>to build my new monster.
>
>that's what i was mumbling about!
>


Steet Cams, Schmeet Cams, that's what I thought you said. I was just
wondering what you meant.

Enlighten us oh cam-miester on the ultimate mantra for the FE rush.
Come on over to my Back Porch
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Ballinger
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 20:56:12 -0400
From: "David L. Reeves"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Steering Sector Adjustment

Hello Everyone. I have a 78 F150 with power steering. I believe it has
the FoMoCo steering sector. It has always seemed sloppy in the steering
and has a bit of wander lust. The kingpins and tie rods have some slack,=

but I seem to be able to turn the steering wheel alot before the pitman a=
rm
moves. My question is: Can this slop be adjusted out by the adjustment =
on
the steering sector and how. Or, is my steering sector just warn? I hav=
e
tried adjusting it some (1 turn in or out) and it does not seem to make a=
ny
difference. I would appreciate any advice anyone can give me on this.

Thanks,
David Reeves,
78 F150 460/C6
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:44:57 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy

yeh, i want pictures of that too!

sleddog

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Sent: Friday, June 05, 1998 6:20 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy

Pictures, we want pictures! Especially of your Truck pulling the sled out
the gate!

Later
Keith




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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:38:53 -0500
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - radiator support

Hi all,
Did ford use two different radiator supports for the standard and HD
radiators in '79? The catalogs list the width of the standard radiator as
19 1/4" and the HD as 24 1/4" wide. Can I just cut the opening wider? I
do have A/C so I suppose the condenser mounts to the front of the support.
Anyone done this on an A/C equipped truck?

The truck runs hot with the a/c on and the radiator is now leaking from at
least two spots. The HD radiators are expensive so I'm open to suggestions,
maybe a late model junkyard swap? Let me hear about what worked for you.

TIA
dale c

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 23:55:29 -0500
From: Jim Craig
Subject: FTE 61-79 - sheetmetal repair

Something the magazines had an article on once...Use Moroso A&B Epoxy to
fill the voids caused by rust. It sounded simple enough, so I used generic
epoxy--don't do that! If you sandblast the affected area, then use the $20!
epoxy, it seems to hold up better than the original. The package says it can
even be drilled and tapped! Have to try that next week...

Jimbo


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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:17:42 -0700
From: "J.Scott Harkema"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - coil springs

Has anybody lowered a Twin I Beam front end
by cutting a coil or so out of it?
My daily driver has expired & I was thinking a
slightly lowered 61-66 4x2 short bed would be a fine
companion for my 76 highboy, but I think 61-64 would
require major surgery to lower. Any thoughts?
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:31:51 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - radiator support

At 10:38 PM 6/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>Did ford use two different radiator supports for the standard and HD
>radiators in '79? The catalogs list the width of the standard radiator as
>19 1/4" and the HD as 24 1/4" wide. Can I just cut the opening wider? I
>do have A/C so I suppose the condenser mounts to the front of the support.
>Anyone done this on an A/C equipped truck?

Dunno about '79, but my '71 origionally had a 240 in it and a small
radiator. When I put the 390 in it I put the standard 390 rad in also
and found that the correct mounting holes where already punched into
the rad support metal, but the opening for the rad was too small.
I torched out the rad opening to the correct size and it bolted right in.
The standard 390 radiator has a core size of approx 18-3/4"H x 26-1/4"W.
The overall rad size is about 25"H x 28-1/4"W.
Perhaps that would fit Yours? Mine was about $200 new.


Steve
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:31:53 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy

>>Pictures, we want pictures! Especially of your Truck pulling the sled out
>>the gate!
>>
>>Later
>>Keith
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>yeh, i want pictures of that too!
>
>sleddog
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Well get someone to take some pictures!
If You need a place to store them, I've got oodles of unused webspace...


Steve
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:38:57 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - coil springs

>Has anybody lowered a Twin I Beam front end
>by cutting a coil or so out of it?
> My daily driver has expired & I was thinking a
>slightly lowered 61-66 4x2 short bed would be a fine
>companion for my 76 highboy, but I think 61-64 would
> require major surgery to lower. Any thoughts?

If You lower the front of a Twin I Beam with shorter springs it screws
up the camber and will eat the inside edges of the front tires like
they're candy unless You bend the I-beams to get the correct camber again.



Steve
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 03:34:59 EDT
From: GMPACHECO aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 93' Cobra engine

Thanks, I'll give him a call this weekend..

Mike in Seattle
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 07:55:48 -0400
From: "THE PAVIES'"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Crew cab beds

*Rab- I'm pretty sure all truck beds (styleside, anyway) are either
*6' or 8'. Even a 98 8' bed should fit OK where your old 8' bed sat. But
*the sheet metal on the newer beds appears to be only about half as
*thick as what the old beds had. The sheet metal they use these days is
*pretty flimsy stuff.
*Got your pencil ready? Here is the VIN decoder site:
* http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/~mrm/bronco/ftvin.cgi/
*
*Is anyone going to that car auction in Schwenksville, PA 6/13? It's
*not far from where I live so e-mail me if you'd like directions. Maybe
*I'd tag along as SWIMBO seems to have left that weekend open when I
*checked the calendar.
*Hope I'm not duplicating any elses' message here as I am, as usual,
*playing catch-up with the digest again. But I have a legitimate excuse
*this time as I've been at the hospital every day visiting my 9 yr old
*who had an emergency appendectomy last Monday. Take care all. Jack P.
*
* 76 F250 360 C6 2wd
* 90 E150 300 C6 (just turned 199,000 miles yesterday)
* 95 F350 7.3L Powerstroke Crewcab 4wd
* and also 67 VW Bug
* 61 VW Singlecab Bus (in pieces!)
*
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:11:17 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy - ramblings

yeh, but first i need to get it all rogether, get the motor finished, etc.
then, i need to pull it out the gate. pictures are usually no problem -
it's getting the sled out the gate that is hard to do!

no doubt a ford will win (almost always in the big block class) but it
ain't gonna be my ford! i am looking at maybe a consistant 3rd place truck
this year. (you know, i compete against things like 600+ cube svo blocked
cheater hitch trucks.)

i hope to get some pictures up soon of the truck. wish i had a digital
camera! i got a scanner. i just hate going to the photo shop as i always
see something i want and photography is almost as expensive as truck
pulling. and usually my camera is fillled with B&W film. . .

anyway, asap i will get some non-action shots ready. some good action
shots should come towards the end of the summer if i can get this engine
together quick enough i have been working on it long enough now.

sleddog

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Sent: Saturday, June 06, 1998 1:31 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy


>>Pictures, we want pictures! Especially of your Truck pulling the sled
out
>>the gate!
>>
>>Later
>>Keith
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>yeh, i want pictures of that too!
>
>sleddog
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Well get someone to take some pictures!
If You need a place to store them, I've got oodles of unused webspace...


Steve
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:28:59 -0400
From: "Kristen Marcellus"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE Gauge Paint

>How about the painting the rest of the gauge? My speedo in the 66 has
>faded badly in the AZ sun. the only place that still looks good is where
>the needle has shielded the gauge from the sun light. At 0 MPH.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie
>Mesa, AZ


It could probably be done, but your going to need a lot of patience. Since
I'm too lazy to go out and look at my own gauge I don't remember if the
lines and numbers are recessed or not.

If they are raised, paint the lines and numbers with white paint and a
brush. Let them dry. Then get a can of black spray paint and some Q-tips.
(I think if you try to use a brush for the black you get some unattractive
brush strokes). Spray the gauge in parts small enough that you have time to
work on it before it dries. What you want to do is spray a section, and
then wipe the black paint off the white parts with the Q-tip. Go slow and
this should work not too bad.

If the numbers and such are stamped in then I'm not sure how you could
refresh it. (I don't know a person on the planet who could freehand that
one :).

And for anyone a little closer, the Barrie swap meet is on this weekend.
I've never been but the better half says it's an excellent place to scrounge
up bits and pieces so if you're close by it might be worth while.

Kristen - 66 F100 Custom Cab
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 08:33:11 -0400
From: "Kristen Marcellus"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy - ramblings

- -

>yeh, but first i need to get it all rogether, get the motor finished, etc.
> then, i need to pull it out the gate. pictures are usually no problem -
>it's getting the sled out the gate that is hard to do!
>


Once you've got it all together, post where you'll be doing all the pulling!
Potential sponsors can't ignore a truck with lurking FTE fans cheering it on
:)

Good luck!
Kristen - 66 F100 Custom Cab
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 10:24:57 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - coil springs

At 10:17 PM 6/5/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Has anybody lowered a Twin I Beam front end
>by cutting a coil or so out of it?
> My daily driver has expired & I was thinking a
>slightly lowered 61-66 4x2 short bed would be a fine
>companion for my 76 highboy, but I think 61-64 would
> require major surgery to lower. Any thoughts?
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Won't work. Your tires will end up with a lean from the
outside on the bottom to the inside on the top. You need
to put drop I-beams on them. You can get up to a 3.5 inch
drop. Several of the "slamming" magazines have ads for
these. Also, be aware that the tires are not evenly placed
in the wheel well on these trucks. You can't really notice it
stock but the lower you make it, the more obvious it gets.
The tires site about 3 inches more to the front of the well
after a 2" drop. You'll have to move the front suspension
back to have it look right.

Ken Payne
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 09:22:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - radiator support

Hey Dale-

>From what I found out after wrecking my '78 in the front, the radiator core
support for 73-77 were the small openings. In 78 they made the hole wider,
to fit the larger radiators, but when you had a smaller one (such as I had
for my I-6) there was a metal spacer plate that on one side held the radiator
mount, and on other side attached to the core support. If you get the larger
radiator, all you have to do it take that plate out and everything fits nice.
(did that too!) I dunno about the AC mounts, but the oil and tranny cooler I
have on my '78 250 parts truck did indeed mount to the front of the core
support. There are holes in my 150 core for this, but since it's a
stick, it doesn't have a tranny cooler. (or oil cooler) I haven't
seen the ac hookup before, but my guess is the holes are already there
to mount it because I have a few extra ones not being used still.

Good luck!

Tony


> Hi all,
> Did ford use two different radiator supports for the standard and HD
> radiators in '79? The catalogs list the width of the standard radiator as
> 19 1/4" and the HD as 24 1/4" wide. Can I just cut the opening wider? I
> do have A/C so I suppose the condenser mounts to the front of the support.
> Anyone done this on an A/C equipped truck?
>
> The truck runs hot with the a/c on and the radiator is now leaking from at
> least two spots. The HD radiators are expensive so I'm open to suggestions,
> maybe a late model junkyard swap? Let me hear about what worked for you.
>
> TIA
> dale c

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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 07:45:57 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy - ramblings

>yeh, but first i need to get it all rogether, get the motor finished, etc.
> then, i need to pull it out the gate. pictures are usually no problem -
>it's getting the sled out the gate that is hard to do!

Well start with some pictures of You pulling and we'll be patiant waiting
for the "out the gate" shots. You'll get there some day!
Besides, a website with some good pics of You doin Your thing can't
hurt in the quest to find sponsers... (-:

>i hope to get some pictures up soon of the truck. wish i had a digital
>camera! i got a scanner. i just hate going to the photo shop as i always
>see something i want and photography is almost as expensive as truck
>pulling.

Egads, ain't that the truth! I've got a full color darkroom setup, and
it's enough to break the bank...
Just quietly drop Your film off at the drugstore to be developed, and
DON'T look at any equipment!

> and usually my camera is fillled with B&W film. . .

I finally had to buy a second camera body so I could carry B+W and color...

SLEDDOG, SLEDDOG, WE WANT PICS OF SLEDDOG!
( Everyone take up the chant now! )

Steve
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Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation
leans on the doorbell.

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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 12:57:27 EDT
From: POLING4 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 72 F-100 INTERIOR QUESTION

Hey, does anyone know the type or make of the original speaker covers used on
the door's of the 72 F-100.

Thanx's Rick
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 13:47:09 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!

Just got back from the junkyard. Scored a mint dash pad, brake
peddle arm and choke cable with knob (NOS is $30 on these) for
$75. The guy is going to check on the Ford A/C unit this afternoon
and call back with a price. I checked on the misc trim and other
items requested, nothing usuable. After I get the A/C unit, I'll
let ya'll know where the yard is. :)

Ken Payne

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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:54:36 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint

i do hope to get sponsors, and the website would most likely help. if i
didn't need to get so many engine parts i would get a digital camera. i
wanted to get them today - still may run out and get one of those
disposables just for some quick shots. washed it all up today and started
thinking about what to do.

the tranny/t-case assy will go in alot easier than in my last truck!
unbolt the floor above it and use a cherry picker to lift it up and then
it goes right in! that'll save a hernia or two!

as soom as i get some i will scan them and ask ken to put on FTE site and
if i have time i will update my own site. (never updated it since i put it
there, i know i got over 2,100,000 hits in a year though.) the previous
owner had some pics up, but he took his site down. maybe he can email me
some pics and i'll post them.

got some decals on there i would like to take off. anyone know the best
way to get them off without messing up the paint?

sleddog

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From: sdelanty sonic.net[SMTP:sdelanty sonic.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 1998 10:45 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's new toy - ramblings


Well start with some pictures of You pulling and we'll be patiant waiting
for the "out the gate" shots. You'll get there some day!
Besides, a website with some good pics of You doin Your thing can't
hurt in the quest to find sponsers... (-:
SLEDDOG, SLEDDOG, WE WANT PICS OF SLEDDOG!
( Everyone take up the chant now! )

Steve
Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/






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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:04:25 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!

>Just got back from the junkyard. Scored a mint dash pad, brake
>peddle arm and choke cable with knob (NOS is $30 on these) for
>$75. The guy is going to check on the Ford A/C unit this afternoon
>and call back with a price. I checked on the misc trim and other
>items requested, nothing usuable. After I get the A/C unit, I'll
>let ya'll know where the yard is. :)

Sounds like a good day at the yard! (-:
So how did the dash pad come off? Was there any glue involved, or did
it just bolt on?

Sure wish I had a set of disc brakes to put on my truck. I'm doing
front brake shoes today and those drums are UGLY! Nasty grooves...

Steve
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Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 16:04:23 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint

>got some decals on there i would like to take off. anyone know the best
>way to get them off without messing up the paint?
>
>sleddog

A heat gun or good stout hairdryer sometimes helps soften the glue
so they will peel off.

Steve
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Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation
leans on the doorbell.

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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 21:13:07 EDT
From: GMPACHECO aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint

you can also go to a autobody supply house and buy decal remover, it won't
hurt your paint job any. It is a spray on and quite expensive ($9.00) a can.
Took me about 1 hour to remove 2 complete sides of a van.


Mike in Seattle
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 21:39:48 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!

At 04:04 PM 6/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>Just got back from the junkyard. Scored a mint dash pad, brake
>>peddle arm and choke cable with knob (NOS is $30 on these) for
>>$75. The guy is going to check on the Ford A/C unit this afternoon
>>and call back with a price. I checked on the misc trim and other
>>items requested, nothing usuable. After I get the A/C unit, I'll
>>let ya'll know where the yard is. :)
>
> Sounds like a good day at the yard! (-:
> So how did the dash pad come off? Was there any glue involved, or did
> it just bolt on?
>

Just bolted on. I have a 67 F100 assembly manual, the kind the
assembly line used. I forgot I even had this until I left for
the junk yard this morning.

Ken Payne

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:46:55 -0500
From: George Littrell
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SCORE!

Ken Payne wrote:
>
> At 04:04 PM 6/6/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >>Just got back from the junkyard. Scored a mint dash pad, brake
> >>peddle arm and choke cable with knob (NOS is $30 on these) for
> >>$75. The guy is going to check on the Ford A/C unit this afternoon
> >>and call back with a price. I checked on the misc trim and other
> >>items requested, nothing usuable. After I get the A/C unit, I'll
> >>let ya'll know where the yard is. :)
> >
> > Sounds like a good day at the yard! (-:
> > So how did the dash pad come off? Was there any glue involved, or did
> > it just bolt on?
> >
>
> Just bolted on. I have a 67 F100 assembly manual, the kind the
> assembly line used. I forgot I even had this until I left for
> the junk yard this morning.
>
> Ken Payne
>
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Hello my name is George Littrell and I got hooked to this accidentaly. I
did not realize what it was I was signing up for. Now I want to quit,
but I erased the message that told me how to quit, can anybody help me?
Please! George Littrell
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 22:31:38 -0400
From: "."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FW: COOLING FANS

- -----Original Message-----
From: . [SMTP:jerryrepka unidial.com]
Sent: Friday, June 05, 1998 9:46 PM
To: '61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com'
Subject: COOLING FANS

FROM: jerryrepka unidial.com
DATE: 6-6-98
TIME: 10:30 pm

Gary:
I just saw the pix of your fan installation. What brand of fans did you l
say you bought and what type of store did you find them at ?
What did you say the sizes were, and do they turn on auto or do you have them on a switch?
Jerry


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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 22:38:21 EDT
From: RDbanesjr aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Crew cab beds

i tried that web site and it didnt work? any suggesttions?
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 23:09:09 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Thanks for the giggle. (was: SCORE!)

Forward for: sdelanty sonic.net

Well, I just got in from putting fresh brakes on my F100 and some other
general maintenance. It's been a long hard day and I really needed something
to make me smile.
Finding George's "how do I uns*bscribe" message firmly wedged between 2 footers
giving uns*bscribe instructions gave me a much needed belly laugh. (-:
Thanks George!

Oh yeah, thanks for the dashpad info Ken.


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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 20:44:23 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FW: COOLING FANS

>Gary:
> I just saw the pix of your fan installation. What brand of fans did you l
>say you bought and what type of store did you find them at ?
> What did you say the sizes were, and do they turn on auto or do you have
them on a switch?
> Jerry

I don't think Gary has an electric fan installed yet unless he's been
busy this weekend. I suspect it's my installation You saw...

I don't remember what the brand is. They are just some generic fans I got
at Kragens auto parts. (May be Kragens/Checker/Schucks auto parts in other
parts of the country) The fans are 12" and 14" on a 26" wide radiator.
I believe I paid about $40 for the 12" and $45 dollars for the 14".
They are on an adjustable thermal switch which was about $15. They are
set to come on when coolant temp reaches about 205F.
They are wired so they will run even with the key off if the temp is above
205, which is nice because if You run the truck hard and hot and then shut
it off the fans will continue to run until the temp drops, which eliminates
"coolant puking" when You shut the motor off. I also had a switch under the
dash to force them on whenever I want, but I never used it so the switch
got disconnected and used to turn my air compressor on...
I've got about $120 into the entire fan system including hardware and stuff
which ain't particularly cheap but when I'm sitting idling in traffic on 100+
degree days I have *no* worries about overheating so I find the cost to be
well worth it.

Steve
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Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation
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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:42:43 EDT
From: GMPACHECO aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Sleddog's toy - removing decals from paint

Yes, I replied to this yesterday, go to a automotive painting supply house,
they actually have some decal remover. It's in spray cans and costs $9.00 a
can ! or you can use a heat gun and waste your time, it took me about 1 hour
to clean 2 sides of a van.


Mike in Seattle
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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 10:37:29 -0500
From: "Bear"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tinted Windshield

Ken,
Where do you get that tinted windshield from and how do I contact them? My
windshield has
been cracked for about a year now and if I can get a tinted one I will fix
it real soon.

Shane


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From: owner-61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 9:01 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Junkyard flunky - resolution

I'm just going to go with a new one. I can get a new tinted
window for $130-$140.

Ken

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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 12:05:37 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tinted Windshield

Look up "glass-automotive" in the yellow pages!

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> From: Bear
> To: FTE
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tinted Windshield
> Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 8:37 AM
>
> Where do you get that tinted windshield from and how do I contact them?
My
> windshield has
> been cracked for about a year now and if I can get a tinted one I will
fix
> it real soon.

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