Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question

61-79-list-digest Monday, June 1 1998 Volume 02 : Number 325

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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 08:12:20 -0400
From: "THE PAVIES'"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Dual exhausts & dual fuel tanks

*Bob- Everybody here on this list knows by now that I am not very
*experienced with the workings of cars and trucks but I would like to
*comment on your present setup if you don't mind. I do about 100+ miles
*a day driving around in pretty heavy traffic and have seen lots of
*vehicles drop their drive shaft. And most of the time, seems like they
*come loose from the transmission-end. At first, the shaft drops down
*onto the roadway and starts ripping up the road. As the vehicle coasts
*to a stop, the shaft can hit a depression and literally lift the back
*end up and polevault the vehicle to one side. I once saw a car get
*thrown up sideways and onto a sidewalk. Luckily, nobody was on the
*sidewalk. Anyway, on the bright side, it sounds like your exhaust
> *setup would prevent something like that from happening to you. And with
*that aux tank hung between the frame, it sounds like its your only
*option.
* One other thing - hopefully eveyone here from the north-central and
*north-east areas got through the night OK after those incredible
*thunder storms/tornados ripped through!!! It was pretty nasty. Jack
P.
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Subject: FTE 61-79 - Front loader 9"

gary writes: >>When did the front loader 9" come out?

1957.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 08:32:32 -0400
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Front loader 9"

> gary writes: >>When did the front loader 9" come out?
>
> 1957.

Ok, so now how interchangeable are the third members? I know the
outer axle bearings changed several times from sealed ball bearings
to tapered to flat roller bearings and there are at least two
diameters as well but what about the third members?

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302

> If broncos changed to mass air in 96...could I use a setup of a 351
> Bronco for my Lightning and have a coimputer chip custom burnt?
>

I think this has been looked into and is not possible yet. The ability
to make chips is based off the original EEC (model #). I'm sure more are
being added all the time, but recent (within past 6 months) talk on the
Bronc mailing list led me to believe those EEC's has not been covered
yet.

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:15:55 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Frame Compatibilty

> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:26:17 -0500
> From: "Dennis K. Austin"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Frame Compatibilty

> However, our mechanic said that during the roll over the engine
> > somehow stressed the rods and wasn't useable. Maybe the guys known
> the term for it, but apparently when, the car is flipping, and the

Did this mechanic actually take the engine apart or was he giving
you a line of bull? Depending on how the vehicle lands, that is how
hard and in what direction relative to it's own axis certain things
can happen to the engine but rods are not the first thing I would
suspect to be damaged, the crank OTOH is and I've heard of truama
from a rear impact knocking the front stub off even but rods???

If he took it apart and found the rods to be bad then some other
cause would be my first inclination, not the rollover......Anybody
else ever hear of this?

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:28:34 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exausts & dual fuel tanks??

> From: "Bob"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exausts & dual fuel tanks??
> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:15:05 -0400

> folks can help me. I have a '78 extended cab with the 400M
> motorwith a edlebrock intake & Holley carb. Not the greates milage
> minded vehicle in the world, but what the hay.... Not sure if it is
> a factory or after market set-up, but it has duel tanks. The front
> one stradels the fram & extends to within 4 or 5 inches from the
> driveshaft. This leaves very little room for duel exausts.
> Currently it has duel exausts with the drivers side crosing over to

Walker makes a two into one exhaust which is quiet and efficient
which works very well for this application as long as you are not
planning on racing :-)

When you cross over you basically have to have one pipe longer than
the other and you sacrifice a great deal of the benifit of duals IMHO
and may even make it worse that stock depending on what kind of
mufflers you wind up with.

If were to run duals in this instance I would get the outside frame
headers and run the pipes outside the frame or stick with the two
into one setup myself :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:37:22 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 in 85 bronco
>
> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:25:17 -0600
> From: Ryan Dorman
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 in 85 bronco
>
> > you're better off to locate a 69 -71 model 351w
>
> I have a 351w and all the parts to put it in. I did not however ask
> how to put it in, I simply asked if there was an aftermarket
> > supplier that made engine mounts for 390 in a 80's bronco swap.
> Thank you for all of the replies telling me to put a 351 in it, with
> no one even remembering the subject of the thread...

There are quite a few FE fanatics on this list who put up with the
quirks because they like the engine but there are some mother hens
too who didn't understand your love for the FE and who were shooting
for a "practical" solution for your problem. Sorry, we get carried
away sometimes.

Try L&L or Advance Adapters. There are some others but I don't
remember the names off hand.

The FE family certainly has some good features but you have to be in
love with it to actually want to swap it into a vehicle not
originally equipped with it IMHO which is fine, just not for
everbody :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Subject: FTE 61-79 - Names/picture

Ken writes: >>I didn't want to embarrass myself! I only remember about
half the names!

That's my excuse - You're too young to use it.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:48:04 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhausts & dual fuel tanks??

> From: "Melayne Arnold"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exhausts & dual fuel tanks??
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:16:06 -0400

> I've got an '83 extended cab, 460, dual tanks with the same dual
> exhaust setup, as well as a '79 single cab, 429, with single tank,
> also the same. I believe running both exhaust on passenger side is
> safety related in order to keep their heat away from fuel lines run
> up the driver's side. I'm probably thinking way to simple on this
> and probably wrong on the reason why. I can just tell you that's the
> way I've seen it done on all of these trucks I remember examing.

It's a simple matter of where it will fit. There's no place to run
it on the driver side unless you get real fancy and go outside the
frame but that has other problems.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:19:10 -0400
From: "David Butts"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question

I think it's backwards.

When the lights are off, the bulbs allow for some ground with impedance.
The internal circuit of the tach must allow for the following ground when
the dimmer is off...

"real ground" -> dimmer bulb ground -> dimmer bulb -> dimmer bulb hot ->
(tach dimmer wire spliced into dimmer hot) -> tach dimmer bulb -> tach
ground

So when the dimmer circuit is off, the tach gets ground through the dimmer
bulbs of the vehicle, and through the tachs dimmer bulb.

When the dimmer circuit is on, the tach gets a hot into the (tach dimmer
wire), and there is no ground. I think the tach's main ground wire is not
connecting. I had the exact problem with a $18 JC Whipme tach and had to
solder a new ground wire for the tach, or it wouldn't work when I turned on
the lights.

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Date: Monday, June 01, 1998 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question

>> From: "David Butts"
>> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question
>> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:57:32 -0400
>
>> Good luck. I can't seem to be able to explain this any other way.
>
>If I understand this thread you are saying that the bulbs are in
>series with the tack ground and so when on it has a ground with some
>impedance which doesn't seem to hurt it's operation but when the
>bulbs are off the it's off so the dash light switch must be in series
>with the tach ground.........Is that about right?
>
>
>78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
>78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
>78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!
>
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Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 in 85 bronco
>
Ryan Dorman wrote:
>
> JJJJJGRANT

aol.com wrote:
>
> > you're better off to locate a 69 -71 model 351w
>
> I have a 351w and all the parts to put it in. I did not however ask how to put it
> in, I simply asked if there was an aftermarket supplier that made engine mounts
> for 390 in a 80's bronco swap.
> Thank you for all of the replies telling me to put a 351 in it, with no one even....

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