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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302
Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford
Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302
Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford
Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302
Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question
Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question
Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 in 85 bronco
Re: FTE 61-79 - Clothespins on fuel lines-was Vapor Lock Definition
FTE 61-79 - Re: High & Dry
FTE 61-79 - Dual Exausts & dual fuel tanks??
FTE 61-79 - Re: Ranchero list
FTE 61-79 - $300 trucks and the best 460
FTE 61-79 - Re: Frame Compatibilty
FTE 61-79 - Re: AutoKrafters Catalog given away...

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:49:27 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302

This is correct, but all sequential means is that injectors fire
independantly, twice, per 4 cycles of engine. Each injector has it's own
power and ground run back to EEC. Sequential EFi came with speed density
and mass air. All trucks running speed density, to my knowledge, have
bank fire (have only one power and ground going to 4 injectors, 2 banks,
one per side) or TBI. I don't think mass air was ever used with bank
injection on trucks. Bronco's converted to mass air in 96, also
converting to sequential. Ch*bbie has used bank fire on evertyhing since
day one.

You are right that speed desnsity was only used with batch firing(bank
system)...but if you get a mass air conversion it usually comes with a
chip to change it to sequential. I am going to do this with my
Lightning. As for gas mileage with mass air and sequential injection it
should go up about 3mpg over speed density...don't know how much more
mileage you will get over the carb though. I know for my truck that
changing over to mass air will give about 20 hp some companies claim
more but I doubt you will see anymore than that.
If I were you I would make the change.

If broncos changed to mass air in 96...could I use a setup of a 351
Bronco for my Lightning and have a coimputer chip custom burnt?

Chris
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:47:01 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford

> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:59:41 -0500
> From: John Strauss
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford

> OK, I know you cannot believe it, but I am going to argue. I
> believe in accuracy so I have to say this is not true. Sorry. The
> transmission in question was the Hydra-Matic. Hydramatic was at the

I work for the "new" Visteon division of ford which is a 78 plant
world wide parts manufacturing division. One of the "new" goals for
us is to go out and get business from non ford entities to the tune
of 20% of our total business. GM has been doing that for years and
ford has been a customer at times. If I'm not mistaken, GM is now
one of our customers :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:56:52 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302

> Thanks to everyone for their input. If money wasn't tight, it would
>be cool to try, but now's not the time and mines not the truck. It was
>your help that enabled me to make my decision which is IMHO as or more
>important than helping me do it.
>Later Gang!

You are right about the bang for the buck quotient, a good manifold and carb
is much more dollar effective unless you just totalled your paid off '95
F150 and are an able fabricator (I've been one since the age of three,
especially when Ma got that look..). I've always wanted to do this with an
FE myself, as I know that they would benefit hugely, but man at what cost?!!
Of course if a realistically purchasable 460 mass air set-up existed(someone
tell me it does!!!)then it could be adapted....hmmm... lets see here a I
need a single plane manifold... SWMBO says NOT!!! My money tree ain't
fruitin' like it should either, so I guess it's going to have to be the
Q-Jet for a long time.
Come on over to my Back Porch
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:53:17 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford

From: Gary, 78 BBB
>I work for the "new" Visteon division of ford which is a 78 plant
>world wide parts manufacturing division. One of the "new" goals for
>us is to go out and get business from non ford entities to the tune
>of 20% of our total business. GM has been doing that for years and
>ford has been a customer at times. If I'm not mistaken, GM is now
>one of our customers :-)

Boy Gary, sure glad you waited until Stu was gone before letting this
skeleton out of the closet! If Stu was to know this, he'd pull the hair
out of his head (figuratively speaking) in disgust. Hope no one saves
your post for his return, just to put a rotton egg in his happy to be
back day! :]

I wouldn't do that to Stu! Not me! I don't think I'd do that to good ol'
Stu. I'll just have to wait and see. ;]

If GM is now a Ford customer, do you think we'll start seeing classic
Vettes with 460 C6's in them? :)


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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 12:19:58 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford

> From: "Deacon"
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford
> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:53:17 -0700

> If GM is now a Ford customer, do you think we'll start seeing
> classic Vettes with 460 C6's in them? :)

More like starters, selenoids etc.. Since the Olds 350 fiasco I
don't think they would chance a ford engine......:-)

Monroe stamping is making some parts for someone but I forgot what
they are and who they're for.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 15:56:33 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

- -Couple of items added to "New, Info and Member Contributions" page. Click
"Misc" button on main page to get there.

- -4 pictures added to pictorial.

- -Pigeon Forge F100 Supernationals photos are up!

- -Links section expanded. Misc. vehicle site section has been revamped with
an index.

- -It looks like the vote for the Performance group is going to pass (92%
in favor. Two more days left to vote. Go to the main web page to
find the voting link. I've already set it up and will be working
with list member Keith Srb (he's volunteered to administer it) for about
a week before it goes live.

My "to do" list is steadily get smaller. Anyone waiting on things
(such as the free web space), please be patient, I haven't forgetten!
I really do have a written "to do list!"

Regards,
Ken Payne
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 13:44:21 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302

I was a little bummed about the cost when I sent my post so in all
fairness I'll add that my wives '89 Aerostar has EFI with 130k miles on
it. I've had to work on the cooling system, cuss changing the plugs,
about junked it when I was doing the heater core but besides changing
filters I've never once had to do anything with the fuel system. I was
rather looking forward to that. One factor in my decision of not going
on with it is my truck. It will never be the prettiest girl at the ball,
but damn can that girl dance. It's like a John Deer, wouldn't look it's
best in Belair but the best thing to have when there's work to be done.
Having EFI would go along with what it is but the price is just to high.
A diamond is a diamond even on a pig. Even if it's a good diamond the
pig is still a pig. :)
If my truck didn't need so much body work to restore it, I would do
like Stu, Marko and the others and then EFI would fit in with the
project. One of my trucks strong points is it runs like a raped ape. An
Aluminum intake with a 4BBL is more it's style, maybe even the right
multi-carb setup would fit in. Along with better carburetion I'll also
be putting O2 sensors in the exhaust for tuning it. More on that as I
find out more on that. :)
Later!

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 15:24:39 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

From: Ken Payne
>-Pigeon Forge F100 Supernationals photos are up!

And what a motley crew you were too! :) Your right Ken, you do look like
my partner in crime Richard. Hate to point this out but you forgot to
put: From the left to the right their names are_______ . Little too much
to ask ain't it. :)

>-4 pictures added to pictorial.

Gee, still no '73's. Someone has to have a good looking '73 to put up
there! :)

>-It looks like the vote for the Performance group is going to pass (92%
> in favor.

In lieu of voting for a new list, I was thinking that it may be
better suited if it was to conduct an inquiry for support of a new list.
As it is, it would appear if only a few people voted and the majority
voted yes, there may not be enough people to support a list or many
voted and a small majority voted no, a list could be rejected with
plenty of people to support it. An inquiry for support wouldn't be open
to debate. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. :]

> with list member Keith Srb (he's volunteered to administer it) for
about
> a week before it goes live.

My Drafts folder is full and waitin' to dispatch it's deluge upon it. :]

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 19:15:45 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

At 03:24 PM 5/31/98 -0700, you wrote:
>From: Ken Payne
>>-Pigeon Forge F100 Supernationals photos are up!
>
>And what a motley crew you were too! :) Your right Ken, you do look like
>my partner in crime Richard. Hate to point this out but you forgot to
>put: From the left to the right their names are_______ . Little too much
>to ask ain't it. :)

I didn't want to embarrass myself! I only remember about half the
names!

>
>>-4 pictures added to pictorial.
>
>Gee, still no '73's. Someone has to have a good looking '73 to put up
>there! :)

We can lie!

>
>>-It looks like the vote for the Performance group is going to pass (92%
>> in favor.
>
> In lieu of voting for a new list, I was thinking that it may be
>better suited if it was to conduct an inquiry for support of a new list.
>As it is, it would appear if only a few people voted and the majority
>voted yes, there may not be enough people to support a list or many
>voted and a small majority voted no, a list could be rejected with
>plenty of people to support it. An inquiry for support wouldn't be open
>to debate. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. :]

I take you mean instead of a vote, a head count in favor of? If thats
what you mean, I agree.

Later,
Ken

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 17:07:57 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

From: Ken Payne
>>Gee, still no '73's. Someone has to have a good looking '73 to put up
>>there! :)
>
>We can lie!

Maybe we can talk Steve Delanty into using his new TurboCAD 4v to
restore my '73. :) The other trucks pictured there are some great
looking rigs! I wouldn't want mine to give '73s a bad name. :]

>I take it you mean instead of a vote, a head count in favor of? If
thats
>what you mean, I agree.

Hey! How come you can say it using less words than me? That's it Bro.
Your way of saying it may be easier to understand and to the point, but
my way was colorful. Hmmm, maybe I'm an artist? :)

What do you think. Should we put it to a vote? Haha, I'm definitely a
comedian! ")

Later!

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:57:32 -0400
From: "David Butts"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question

There is a ground when the dash lights are off.

Isn't one side of the light bulb attached to ground? When the lights are
off, the ground goes through the bulbs and into the wire you spliced into
the dimmer circuit.

The Flux capacitors are working, this IS a forth dimensional problem. The
circuit changes over time, (as power is applied to the dimmer circuit)

Good luck. I can't seem to be able to explain this any other way.

I bet the Tach doesn't work at all if you unhook the dimmer lead.
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From: Dave Resch
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Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question


>>From: "David Butts"
>>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question
>>
>>It is the ground. I had the same problem with a small tach.
>>It is grounding through the dash lights normally, and when
>>you turn on the lights, the ground goes away, and the thing
>>stops working.
>
>Hmmm... this doesn't sound right. When the switch is off, the power lead
>for panel lights has no power and it certainly is not grounded. If any
>alternative ground exists, it might be the tach signal line since it taps
>into the negative side of the coil primary circuit, which eventually leads
>back to ground. I will get out the VOM and test light this weekend to
>figure this out, but I'll probably check the bulb first.
>
>Another symptom: While I was out at lunch, I tried turning on the lights
>and then turning the panel light dimmer all the way down, and lo and
>behold, the tach comes back to life w/ the panel lights completely dimmed
>(i.e., no power coming in on the light circuit). By turning the dimmer, I
>could make the needle move.
>
>If it's not the bulb (simplest answers first!), then I will be checking
>over the rest of the external wiring and inspecting the inside of the case
>for loose thingies.
>
>Those flux capacitors are mighty expensive, and my Mr. Fusion has been on
>the fritz ever since that last jump to hypertext. Any more ideas?
>
>Dave R. (M-block devotee)
>
>
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 18:40:02 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question

>Those flux capacitors are mighty expensive, and my Mr. Fusion has been
on
>the fritz ever since that last jump to hypertext. Any more ideas?

I got it! Connect the tach light to a keyed 12v. Just let the light be
on whenever the key is on. There is something funky with the way the
dash and dome lights are wired. I found this out putting an interior
light switch in my passenger door. It was missing and there were 2 wires
for it. If either wire or the switch touched a ground "Smoke gets in
your eyes" I'll bet your grounding some electrical series circuit system
what ever. :)

What do I win?


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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:25:17 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 in 85 bronco

JJJJJGRANT aol.com wrote:

> you're better off to locate a 69 -71 model 351w

I have a 351w and all the parts to put it in. I did not however ask how to put it
in, I simply asked if there was an aftermarket supplier that made engine mounts
for 390 in a 80's bronco swap.
Thank you for all of the replies telling me to put a 351 in it, with no one even
remembering the subject of the thread...

> its not really
> worth the efforts on a pure street engine,but it doesn't hurt either.

Since when does a engine swap in a 4wd Bronco mean it is intended for street
applications???I buy a truck and use it for it's intended purpose ( usually on the
extreme side of the purpose but still) , I use my Bronco as a jeep with more cargo
room... not as a street rod......

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85 Bronco 300 IL6 4x4
97 F-150 4.6 sb ext cab 4x4
(and several others in progress)
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:35:28 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Clothespins on fuel lines-was Vapor Lock Definition

It doesn't really matter wich way the clothes pin is pointed, as long as it
isn't in contact with anything but the fuel line. It acts as a sponge that
sucks up the heat, and Yes it does work,
there are 2 of em on the fuel line in my 58..


Jim Pointer wrote: Which way should the clothespin be pointed? Towards the
engine

> or away from it? I guess I was figuring it had to do with heat
> transfer,
> so maybe "heat sink" is an incorrect term in this context. Maybe
> more of a "heat collector." The wood would be more resistant to the
> environmental heating that's affecting the metal fuel line, allowing
> it to absorb the heat from the metal line that it's in contact with.
> Or something like that. At any rate, it has to be *somehow*
> related to heat transfer, if it really works (no firsthand experience),
> because otherwise we're talking about alchemy or mysticism or
> something.
>
> Jim Pointer


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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:42:20 -0500
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: High & Dry

Just remember who leaves the Marines high and dry on the beach while the squids make
them jump off in ten feet of water. Was that a FORD landing craft??? And who will
use the landing craft for an enemy motar target while them marines get to cover?
Not a squid!From one long ago beached Puddle Pirate... of course I was over six feet
so I was also known as a deep water sailor, who could swim.

Honestly though...anytime I got into trouble down at the navy enlisted club all by
myself, all I had to do was yell for the marines and the we would kick some squid
butt!

Hey Admiral do I get extra liberty for this?

- -=DENNIS=-


> Date: Fri, 15 May 98 17:10:55 -0700
> From: "SGT CHRISTOPHER S DENSON"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - ...no subject...
>
> To Ryan Dorman,
> How many Army dogs are there? 400,000+? There's 174,000 Marines. Now, let's
> talk about ASVAB scores, The Marine Corps comes in second behind the Air
> Farce while the Army comes in a distant last behind the Navy, why is that? So
> who's the real dumb dumbs here? What your Army Ranger Special Forces do is
> just another day for our regular grunts. Just proves not everybody can be a
> Marine while anybody can be a soldier. What kind of training do you do? A-
> R-M-Y T-R-A-I-N-I-N-G S-I-R!!!!!!!!!! Semper Fi soldier.
>
> Chris
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:15:05 -0400
From: "Bob"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dual Exausts & dual fuel tanks??

I have been a long time lurker to this and the pre 60 list, but have never
posted a question, but perhaps some of the more knowlegable folks can help
me. I have a '78 extended cab with the 400M motorwith a edlebrock intake &
Holley carb. Not the greates milage minded vehicle in the world, but what
the hay.... Not sure if it is a factory or after market set-up, but it has
duel tanks. The front one stradels the fram & extends to within 4 or 5
inches from the driveshaft. This leaves very little room for duel exausts.
Currently it has duel exausts with the drivers side crosing over to the
passenger side (below the drive shaft) and back behind the rear axle then
to the drivers side & out. Has any one seen this configuration, or does
any one have any better ideas??

Thanks

Bob wmoore magicnet.net
'52 F1 flatty
'76 Nova 350, "really its stock" hehehe
& my "new" truck '78 Extend Cab 400M
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 22:57:12 -0500
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Ranchero list

>

Ken,

My first love is Rancheros. But, I couldn't find one when I wanted it and had given up
one moving to Louisiana, so now I have an F-100. But, I will vote for a Ranchero
list. It just so happens I have been offered a '61 Ranchero if I want it. I still
have to go look at it. I am told its been sitting for more than ten years, but was a
daily runner and was just parked one day and never driven again. I may get it, just
don't know 'til i have looked.

- -=DENNIS=-

> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:25:43 -0400
> From: Ken Payne
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '78 ford Ranchero
>
> At 02:53 PM 5/17/98 EDT, you wrote:
> >Does anyone know of places I can get parts,info,manuals,or a web site with
> >pictures of Rancheros anything will be helpful
>
> There's a book by Vintage Part 411 that has sources. Either
> get it through them for $15.95 or through us for $14.95
> (shameless plug, but what the heck, it pays the list server
> bills!). Info on our site or do a web search for them.
>
> In the works, a vote on a Ranchero list!
>
> Ken Payne
> CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
> http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:58:26 -0600
From: Rab Rawlins
Subject: FTE 61-79 - $300 trucks and the best 460

Blew the engine on my 77 F250 Crew cab 4x4 on wednesday. Pretty much
unexpected. The 400 wasn't blowing smoke or anything. Anyways it gives
me a really good excuse to drop in a 460. I haul a lot of heavy (7000#'s
+ ) trailers but I also wouldn't mind giving some of these Dodge boys a
run for their money. I know this question has been asked a thousand
times. But I'm paying attention now!
1) What are the best years / models to look for?
2) There are plenty of 78-79 460's trucks being parted out. Fully
dressed engines and acc.. What should I be looking for?
3) The engine will bolt right up to my 4 sp.?

I scored one of those rare deals on friday. One of the guys that works
for me was looking for an earlier Ford 1 ton dually with a dump box. He
ran into a deal. A 1968 Ford 1 ton dually in excellent cond. 300 , 6
cyl, 4 sp., 55000 mi., new rubber and safety inspected. $2500 Canadian.
My buddy had spied a slightly beaten looking crew cab in the corner and
asked the guy about it. He said he would throw it into the deal. My
buddy jumped, he knew I would pay him $300 for the crew cab. Anyways
friday I'm working in the driveway pulling the blown motor when Clint
comes putting up the driveway honking the horn on this old crew cab.
$300 later I'm going over my new/old truck. It's a beauty. I did a
compression test, changed the oil, plugs, wires etc.. Tuned it. It
purrs. 78000 mi., The truck had some rusty spots but the interior was in
awesome shape, dash liner was mint. Door panels mint. And it just
purred. After thinking about it for a whole ten seconds I figured I'd
put it on the road too. Now I'm not so rushed about getting the 4x4 back
on the road.

Anyway's I know someone on the list has the VIN decoder. Could you steer
me there please. I'm surprised at how different the two VIN's are.

1977 F-250 4x4 Crew cab

F26HCO30973
Warranty #

W.B. COLOR TYPE BODY TRANS AXLE
150 M F262 ADD A
B4R

0770 1977 B64274
GVWR D.S.O.
_______________________________________________________
1977 F-250 2wd Crew cab

F25BCZ05446
Warranty #

W.B. COLOR TYPE BODY TRANS AXLE
150 F252 AAD F
38J

0770 1977 A70426
GVWR D.S.O.

If anybody can decipher the two vin's for me I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:26:17 -0500
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Frame Compatibilty

> John,

How do you know that the frame isn't twisted too? Also, that engine could be
damaged. We recently had a car, on a rainy day, do a roll over and end up
literally hanging from some power wires. Even though it was a small Che#y it was
beat badly. We thought we could recover the engine in all this for one that had
blown an engine. However, our mechanic said that during the roll over the engine
somehow stressed the rods and wasn't useable. Maybe the guys known the term for
it, but apparently when, the car is flipping, and the engine is running, the force
of the roll can cause some internal damage to occur. I am not confident with this
type of engine technical babble, but make sure you are not getting more than you
can handle.

- -=DENNIS=-

> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:51:56 -0500
> From: John Strauss
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Frame Compatibility
>
> Will a '68 body bolt up to an '85 frame? I just bought a '68 F250 with a
> great body and now am seeing an '85 F350 4x4 rollover victim for sale. Can
> I put the '68 body on the '85 frame without too much trouble? Or is this a
> rat's nest I ought to stay away from? I seem to remember reading that, I
> think in '73, the frame was widened and the wheelbase lengthened, or
> something of the like. This might put an end to the proceedings right
> there. But I am just in the dreaming stage right now, so does anybody
> know? A '68 F350 4x4 with a diesel would be pretty cool.
> _
> _| ~~. John Strauss
> \, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
> \( Texas Fight!
>



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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 00:07:06 -0500
From: "Dennis K. Austin"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: AutoKrafters Catalog given away...

> Hey Ron Miller!

In the mail came a new issue of your catalog that was too new for my truck. While I
was down at one of our offices in Pineville, La. I found that the folks there had
acquired a 91 Ford "dually". I have not had a chance to look at it since its in the
shop, but it was a seized vehicle. Seized for drug use. Its missing some parts and had
been in storage for a few years. Anyway, on my next trip down last week, I gave them
this catalog, even though your catalog didn't cover that year, and told them to call
you to see if you could help them out. If you don't mind I will pass on the catalogs I
can't use to my friends with newer trucks.

- -=DENNIS=-

>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 May 98 19:42:46 -0500
> From: "Ronald D. Miller"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:'78 Ranchero parts source....


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