Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302

61-79-list-digest Monday, June 1 1998 Volume 02 : Number 324

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:47:01 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford

> Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:59:41 -0500
> From: John Strauss
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford

> OK, I know you cannot believe it, but I am going to argue. I
> believe in accuracy so I have to say this is not true. Sorry. The
> transmission in question was the Hydra-Matic. Hydramatic was at the

I work for the "new" Visteon division of ford which is a 78 plant
world wide parts manufacturing division. One of the "new" goals for
us is to go out and get business from non ford entities to the tune
of 20% of our total business. GM has been doing that for years and
ford has been a customer at times. If I'm not mistaken, GM is now
one of our customers :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302

> Thanks to everyone for their input. If money wasn't tight, it would
>be cool to try, but now's not the time and mines not the truck. It was
>your help that enabled me to make my decision which is IMHO as or more
>important than helping me do it.
>Later Gang!

You are right about the bang for the buck quotient, a good manifold and carb
is much more dollar effective unless you just totalled your paid off '95
F150 and are an able fabricator (I've been one since the age of three,
especially when Ma got that look..). I've always wanted to do this with an
FE myself, as I know that they would benefit hugely, but man at what cost?!!
Of course if a realistically purchasable 460 mass air set-up existed(someone
tell me it does!!!)then it could be adapted....hmmm... lets see here a I
need a single plane manifold... SWMBO says NOT!!! My money tree ain't
fruitin' like it should either, so I guess it's going to have to be the
Q-Jet for a long time.
Come on over to my Back Porch
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:53:17 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford

From: Gary, 78 BBB
>I work for the "new" Visteon division of ford which is a 78 plant
>world wide parts manufacturing division. One of the "new" goals for
>us is to go out and get business from non ford entities to the tune
>of 20% of our total business. GM has been doing that for years and
>ford has been a customer at times. If I'm not mistaken, GM is now
>one of our customers :-)

Boy Gary, sure glad you waited until Stu was gone before letting this
skeleton out of the closet! If Stu was to know this, he'd pull the hair
out of his head (figuratively speaking) in disgust. Hope no one saves
your post for his return, just to put a rotton egg in his happy to be
back day! :]

I wouldn't do that to Stu! Not me! I don't think I'd do that to good ol'
Stu. I'll just have to wait and see. ;]

If GM is now a Ford customer, do you think we'll start seeing classic
Vettes with 460 C6's in them? :)

Deacon
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 12:19:58 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford

> From: "Deacon"
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - GM parts on a Ford
> Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:53:17 -0700

> If GM is now a Ford customer, do you think we'll start seeing
> classic Vettes with 460 C6's in them? :)

More like starters, selenoids etc.. Since the Olds 350 fiasco I
don't think they would chance a ford engine......:-)

Monroe stamping is making some parts for someone but I forgot what
they are and who they're for.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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My "to do" list is steadily get smaller. Anyone waiting on things
(such as the free web space), please be patient, I haven't forgetten!
I really do have a written "to do list!"

Regards,
Ken Payne
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 13:44:21 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302

I was a little bummed about the cost when I sent my post so in all
fairness I'll add that my wives '89 Aerostar has EFI with 130k miles on
it. I've had to work on the cooling system, cuss changing the plugs,
about junked it when I was doing the heater core but besides changing
filters I've never once had to do anything with the fuel system. I was
rather looking forward to that. One factor in my decision of not going
on with it is my truck. It will never be the prettiest girl at the ball,
but damn can that girl dance. It's like a John Deer, wouldn't look it's
best in Belair but the best thing to have when there's work to be done.
Having EFI would go along with what it is but the price is just to high.
A diamond is a diamond even on a pig. Even if it's a good diamond the
pig is still a pig. :)
If my truck didn't need so much body work to restore it, I would do
like Stu, Marko and the others and then EFI would fit in with the
project. One of my trucks strong points is it runs like a raped ape. An
Aluminum intake with a 4BBL is more it's style, maybe even the right
multi-carb setup would fit in. Along with better carburetion I'll also
be putting O2 sensors in the exhaust for tuning it. More on that as I
find out more on that. :)
Later!

Deacon
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 15:24:39 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

From: Ken Payne
>-Pigeon Forge F100 Supernationals photos are up!

And what a motley crew you were too! :) Your right Ken, you do look like
my partner in crime Richard. Hate to point this out but you forgot to
put: From the left to the right their names are_______ . Little too much
to ask ain't it. :)

>-4 pictures added to pictorial.

Gee, still no '73's. Someone has to have a good looking '73 to put up
there! :)

>-It looks like the vote for the Performance group is going to pass (92%
> in favor.

In lieu of voting for a new list, I was thinking that it may be
better suited if it was to conduct an inquiry for support of a new list.
As it is, it would appear if only a few people voted and the majority
voted yes, there may not be enough people to support a list or many
voted and a small majority voted no, a list could be rejected with
plenty of people to support it. An inquiry for support wouldn't be open
to debate. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. :]

> with list member Keith Srb (he's volunteered to administer it) for
about
> a week before it goes live.

My Drafts folder is full and waitin' to dispatch it's deluge upon it. :]

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 19:15:45 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

At 03:24 PM 5/31/98 -0700, you wrote:
>From: Ken Payne
>>-Pigeon Forge F100 Supernationals photos are up!
>
>And what a motley crew you were too! :) Your right Ken, you do look like
>my partner in crime Richard. Hate to point this out but you forgot to
>put: From the left to the right their names are_______ . Little too much
>to ask ain't it. :)

I didn't want to embarrass myself! I only remember about half the
names!

>
>>-4 pictures added to pictorial.
>
>Gee, still no '73's. Someone has to have a good looking '73 to put up
>there! :)

We can lie!

>
>>-It looks like the vote for the Performance group is going to pass (92%
>> in favor.
>
> In lieu of voting for a new list, I was thinking that it may be
>better suited if it was to conduct an inquiry for support of a new list.
>As it is, it would appear if only a few people voted and the majority
>voted yes, there may not be enough people to support a list or many
>voted and a small majority voted no, a list could be rejected with
>plenty of people to support it. An inquiry for support wouldn't be open
>to debate. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. :]

I take you mean instead of a vote, a head count in favor of? If thats
what you mean, I agree.

Later,
Ken

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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:57:32 -0400
From: "David Butts"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - SunPro tach question

There is a ground when the dash lights are off.

Isn't one side of the light bulb attached to ground? When the lights are
off, the ground goes through the bulbs and into the wire you spliced into....

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