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61-79-list-digest Saturday, May 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 322 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302 Re: FTE 61-79 - 160 degree t-stats and radials Re: FTE 61-79 - H*lp! Need 1963 front Disks?? ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 21:33:30 -0700 From: "Deacon" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - EFI on a '73 302 First I'd like to thank all who have responded on EFI. My friends was the first one I have worked on and was surprised how simple it was to work on. I would like to go with this even if it's not the best conditions, it's better than what I have. From: luxjo >What years? 86 through 88 T-birds used the non-HO 5.0. 86, 5.0 HO's I was given bad info OX. On EFI for beginners they say All 5-liter Mustangs built between 1986 and '95 (and all 5-liter Mercury Capris built in 1986) are equipped with sequential electronic fuel injection, a type of port fuel injection. At the heart of this system is the EEC-IV . So does that mean I can get some of my parts from an '86 Capri? After reading your post I began searching the Internet and found a great site with all the info I can handle for now. I will share what I find with the list as much as I can, if only to add graphics so all can see what OX describes. So far I have only found info that concurs with OX, but still worth a look. >May want to get aftermarket harness to simplify install. I found harnesses at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.greenapple.com/~jcurrence/fuel.html and there are some kits, I would like to know if these are what your speaking of - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------- ENGINE HARNESSES AND CONTROLS PACKAGE M-12071-E302 5.0L/302 HO & 5.8L/351W FIRING ORDER 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 $126.90 You'll need this package to complete a 86-93 5.0L or 5.8L engine > assembly with EFI. Kit includes all sensors and wiring harness mounted on the engine(ACT,ECT, and EGR position sensors, EGR valve, oxygen sensor harness and fuel injector harness). Note that 5.0L/302 HO and non HO engines use a different firing order. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------- OK, this was a happy find. A good chunk of what I need isn't it? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------- MULTIPORT 5.0L EFI WIRING HARNESS COMPONETS For 86-93 5.0L EFI ENGINE CONVERSIONS ON STREET RODS, KIT CARS, TRUCKS, AND PASSENGER CARS MAIN HARNESS M-12071-C302 $310.00 The foundation of Ford SVO's Multiport EFi Wiring Harness system, this harness connects the mass air flow computer to the engine, sensors, and relays. 26 page instruction book included with main harness. Contains very detailed instructions, helpful hints and lots of illustrations for easy hookup. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------- If this is what I need, it still isn't bad but it's only the harness - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------- COMPUTER And MASS AIR METER KIT MANUAL TRANS M-12071-F302 $285.00 Boost you fuel economy! This mass air flow computer system operates with performance engine assemblies and stock high output engines. Kit includes the EEC-IV computer, mass air meter, inlet and outlet hoses, plus mass air meter mounting bracket. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------- It's for a manual trans but I was thinking that's what I'll need with my C4. If it's for an auto it would be an A4OD right? Well that's all the parts for now. I'll post others that I find unless people don't want to see it. It seemed that others may be interested what this would cost and what it would take to do it. If I run across parts for other engines I will include them too. To understand EFI I found this site called FUEL INJECTION FOR BEGINNERS at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.iaw.com/~aubertin/88mgt/eec-iv/mmff/mmffuel1.html it was linked from The Corral at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.corral.net/ where there's a ton of information on EFI and ignition related links. >Yes, controls everything except base timing (before computer timing >added) and dwell. Dwell is inherent in TFI module. Base timing is set by >pulling connector, just like disconnecting vac advance. That's what I've read > I'm not sure how happy EEC would be If it was not getting SPOUT (spark >out signal). It may assume ign is dead and go into some sort of limp >home mode. Right again. Here's what it says Spark Output (SPOUT)* This is the spark control that the EEC-IV sends to the ignition module (TFI) on the side of the .... 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