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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - 160 degree t-stats and radials
RE: FTE 61-79 - switching out my distributor
Re: FTE 61-79 - Engine Mounts To Put A 302 in A 66 6 Cyl
FTE 61-79 - Wheels/tires and parts for sale
FTE 61-79 - FEs - now Motor Mounts
FTE 61-79 - Possible engine swap FE -> 385
FTE 61-79 - Brazilian Fords/1957-1967 Ford Pickups
RE: FTE 61-79 - silliness..
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re; F100 Overheating
FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 Ken's Gold
Re: FTE 61-79 - 160 degree t-stats and radials
Re: FTE 61-79 - Brazilian Fords/1957-1967 Ford Pickups
Re: FTE 61-79 - Carbs
FTE 61-79 - Clutch Chatter
Re: FTE 61-79 - Possible engine swap FE -> 385
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 Ken's Gold
FTE 61-79 - virtual motors
FTE 61-79 - A message from Stu
Re: FTE 61-79 - virtual motors
FTE 61-79 - DISC BRAKE CONVERSION F350
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Ranchero list?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Possible engine swap FE -> 385
FTE 61-79 - RE: 68 F-250
FTE 61-79 - RE: Oil Drain Plug 68 F-250
FTE 61-79 - mixed tires
Re: FTE 61-79 - California get together
FTE 61-79 - Junk Yard A C install?????
FTE 61-79 - 1963 front disks anyone???
FTE 61-79 - Re: Brake light update

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:28:31 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 160 degree t-stats and radials

> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:06:12 -0500
> From: "John LaGrone"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 160 degree t-stats and radials

> Someone asked why they make them. In the good old days before smog
> control, that was the most comon flavor. In order to reduce unburned
> hydrocarbons sooner, thermostat temps were raised. Generally, the

That was me. I think you may be right about that now that I think
about it. The solution may just be a higher pressure cap in most
cases but engines run better at the higher temps too if they are set
up for it. The 60's vintage may fare better if run cooler but after
about 73 you need more than 160 or they won't run as well.

> One other characteristic of radial tires. They maintain traction
> better, but when they let go as in a sideways skid, they lose it
> without warning and tend to roll off of the wheel whereas bias tires
> are better about plain old sliding and squalling.

This is an old problem which I understand has been fixed, at least
improved on so that it's no quite so apparent.

> Why are you not supposed to rotate radials from one side of the
> vehicle to the other?

Again this was an old engineering problem that has been resolved for
many years. Some off road tires still say to keep them on the same
side due to tread pattern and the installer has to mount them
correctly as well.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:29:39 -0700
From: "Gillespie, John D."
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - switching out my distributor

Chuy, again like everyone else has said; take your time and DON'T let anyone
else around while your are doing your set up even the SWMBO unless she has
already done a swapout or engine rebuild (-64Falcon V8 eons ago).

I am going to South Texas for about a week, as soon as I get
back I will be putting in the new "electronic" distributor in my
truck
and I will let you all know how it goes.

South Texas from where your at that's not very far. Ooops Forgot where TAMU
actually was.. Enjoy the fishing or whatever.....
John

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:32:57 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Engine Mounts To Put A 302 in A 66 6 Cyl

At 03:19 PM 5/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I just subscribed, so plese forgive me if I'm asking an obvious question
here.
>
>What engine mounts do I need to put a late model 302 in a 66 F100? My
plan is
>to put a late model Mustang HO EFI engine with AOD in my 66 truck. It looks
>to me like 302 mounts for a 69 F100 would do the job. Is that right?
>
>
>Thanks,
>Don Haulsee
>Richmond, Va.

Don, the frame widths from 65-72 are the same so you should be
able to use them with no problems.

Ken


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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:38:43 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Wheels/tires and parts for sale

All parts from 79, F-250. Tires/wheels are from 1/2 ton.

Most body parts are trashed/rusted-Drivers door seems OK
Interior is red, no air.
I'm keeping:
8 lug front setup, brakes, and axle shafts, cept locking hubs.
Rear axle.
C-6 and hardware to convert from man trans to auto including any TC
adapters
Wheels and tires
Carb
Brake booster and mast cyl.

Chrome front winch bumper-150$
Chrome rear step/hitch bump (matches front)-100$
Dana 44, 4.10 gear set (with bearings, shims and open diff if you want
them)-50$
AC radiator, new core, -90$
Edlb, non-EGR perf man for 351M/400- 90$
351M/400 distr.-30$
351M long block- runs good, make offer
Front driveshaft-50$
Rear drievshaft-50$
Front springs-25$
Rear springs-25$
Dana 60 rear, 3.54 ratio-100$ (I'm keeping 4.10 dana 60)
NP205 Trans case-100$
Steering box-30$
Chrome valve covers and chrome push in breathers (2)-30$
9", K&N, Chrome air cleaner, some surface rust-15$
Chrome dana 44 rear end cover-15$
Bed liner-50$
Black Grant GT steer wheel-20$
Sliding rear window, alum, no latch-25$
PS pump-10$
Want premium locking hubs, dana 44-40$.

OR all for 700$

79 F250 4 X 4 frame and cab, some floor rot pass side, free after I get
what I need.

4 tires/rims, 32 X 12.5, X 15 (3 BFG AT, one Bridgestone AT) on flat
black primered, 15 X 8, factory 78 Bronco wagon wheels (5 lug).
Can have tires mounted or unmounted if you want to paint them-
have bald, but air containing 32" spare on 15 X 6 steel rim-175$

4 tires/rims, 35 X 12.5 X 15 (2 BFG AT-one new, 2 BFG MT) on 15 X 10
chrome modular with moroso alum center caps. Also have extra rim for
spare-350$


I'm in central Jersey.

OX
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FEs - now Motor Mounts

Guys,

you've got me all in a twist now. I'm putting a 61 390 (out of a car)
into a 1963 truck.

I've had two opinions on this so far. One says to buy the V8 motor
mounts for the year of the truck (was 272). The other says to buy the
motor mounts that fit the engine (out of a 61 thunderbird).

Which is it?



Dan




> Bill Ballinger writes:>>Didn't they change the width of the thrust
bearing
> somewhere about '63-'64?

The motor mounts
> were changed somewhat in the time frame you are speaking of. I
thought it
> was '67, but that could very well be wrong, and is if you know that
the
> pre/post 64's were different.
>
> Azie
> Ardmore, Al.

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:03:24 -0500
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Possible engine swap FE -> 385

As you know because I talk about it everyday, I have just bought a '68
F-250 w/360 FE and C6. The engine hasn't run in at least 10 years but I
fired it up on Saturday. Well it doesn't have compression for squat (might
get better if it runs more, don't know yet) and the timing chain is real
loose. Since the 360 was not a real powerhouse to begin with, I question
whether this engine is worth the investment. If I find the rear seal
leaking (very likely after so many years sitting) then it has to go.

So I am already dreaming about what to put in it's place. As this truck is
going to serve as my tractor, I want as big a motor as I can get. So I am
thinking 385-series unless a good 390 or 428 falls in my lap. Right now I
see way more folks selling 460s and a few 429s.

Finally, the question: What can I expect as far as hassle factor to
replace the FE with a 385 motor? I guess my only real concern is the motor
mounts. I already know the C6 will bolt up, the exhaust is shot anyway,
but will I need different frame mounts, different motor mounts, or neither?
Accessory brackets are only alternator and A/C so I'll just try to get a
motor with that stuff already in place. Is there anything else I need to
be aware of when contemplating this?

Also, are there specific years to get or stay away from when looking for a
429 or 460? I just want something running that I can drop in as is. TIA.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:03:27 -0500
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Brazilian Fords/1957-1967 Ford Pickups

> If anyone's interested in this book, here's the details:
>
>Ford Pickups 1957-1967
>Author: Paul McLaughlin
>ISBN#0-87938-385-2
>Published by Motorbooks International Publishers & Wholesalers
>
If anyone finds this book, PLEASE let me know because I have tried and
found it to be out of print. I want one to replace the one somebody lost
for me! Feel free to email me direct on it, too. TIA.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:05:05 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - silliness..

At 10:49 AM 5/27/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey Steve now THAT is definitely FTE relevant and I do like it. Besides how
>else are we going learn all these new fangled computer programs.
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/truck/ftezone2.jpg

Thanks John! I figured that was a scene likely to be found along
one of the roads to Pigeon Forge. Sure wish I could have gone...

Steve

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"When you stop learning, stop listening, stop looking
and asking questions, always new questions,
then it is time to die." -- Lillian Smith

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:05:06 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re; F100 Overheating

>> I've got a 160 thermostat and the radiator never gets above that.
>
>160 is too cold. (IMNSHO) I can't even imagine why they make them??
> You won't get good performance and economy keeping it that cold
>unless you run pure hydrogen for fuel IMHO and the internal parts
>will never quite get fully expanded to achieve the correct
>relationships (clearances) so more engine wear will be likely.

I heartily agree that 160 is much to cold for good performance or
economy and also accelerates engine wear. There's a reason that most
OEM's are currently using thermos in the 185+ range!
Higher coolant temps promote better efficiency and lower engine wear IF
You can keep the coolant from boiling and IF You can keep the oil temps
from getting to high...
I run a 195 thermo in my FE390 with a good stock radiator and electric fans
and it never overheats even under prolonged idling on the nastiest hot days.


Steve

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and asking questions, always new questions,
then it is time to die." -- Lillian Smith

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:05:03 +0000
From: tfmf211 murphyfarms.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 Ken's Gold

Ken,

I just finished up on pulling Stu's old A/C apart. I put in a new heater
core and blower motor. I figured since the unit was out I'd replace
anything on the interior that may go bad. I don't want to go into this
thing again. I hope to have the unit installed by this weekend and
ready to go to the shop to have the unit purged and charged with
R-12. I checked into the R-134 conversion. Everything should work
but has a higher head pressure that R-12. Also, the molecular
structure of the R-134 is a lot smaller that R-12. What I was told, was
that a non-leaking R-12 system may not even be able to hold R-134
due to leaks. If you have the old type A/C hoses, be very careful.
They are expensive to replace. I just spent $223 to have new ones
made. They're nice, but OUCH!!

I don't know if yours had A/C before or not. You may want to check the
bolt hole configuration on the fire wall. My old heater unit had 3 bolts
holding it on the firewall. The A/C unit has two bolts for the lip of the
dash and 2 bolt through the firewall. Looking at the firewall from in fron=
t
of the truck the left hole that was used with the heater lined up. The=20
right
didn't exist. But....., there is a dimple about 1-1/2" down from the top
right bolt hole for the old heater unit. Drill that out and it should line=
=20
up
with the unit. Mine came out of Stu's '71 and has '67 and '68 part numbers
all through it. I believe they will be the same.

I hope this helps some.

Enjoyed meeting you, Peggy and all the other FTE folks at Pigeon Forge.
I can't believe that guy sold my manifold at 2:30 am. Oh well, I'll keep=20
looking!

Azie, I think you know what color necks are around Chinquapin!

Later,

-Ted
______________
>Ken
>
>When you get your A/C unit don't overlook the pulley set up. You might
>need the crank pulley and the one that I missed, the power steering pulley.
>It's different on non A/C vs one with A/C. Had to drive back about a hour
>each way for that one!!!!
>
>Later
>Steve
>Calgary,
>

I've already got the two belt pulley on mine so I won't have
to worry about it. Glad you mentioned it though so I can make
sure its all there!

Ken

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 23:17:47 GMT
From: wayside cyberhighway.net (Rob Patelke)
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 160 degree t-stats and radials

On Wed, 27 May 1998 15:06:12 -0500, you wrote:

>Why are you not supposed to rotate radials from one side of the vehicle =
to
>the other?
>
I had a set of radial snow tires back in the 70's that probably were
flipped side to side; both of failed the same way- the sidewalls split
catastrophically.

Rob
'71 F100, 360 4Spd "The Old One"
'78 F250, 4X4 400 C6 "The Brick"
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:26:34 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Brazilian Fords/1957-1967 Ford Pickups

According to amazon ( www.amazon.com ) it's out of print but they will
search their "network" of used bookstores for it if you ask. You might want
to try. Good luck.

- ----------
> From: John Strauss
> To: Ford Trucks List
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Brazilian Fords/1957-1967 Ford Pickups
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 2:03 PM
>
> > If anyone's interested in this book, here's the details:
> >
> >Ford Pickups 1957-1967
> >Author: Paul McLaughlin
> >ISBN#0-87938-385-2
> >Published by Motorbooks International Publishers & Wholesalers
> >
> If anyone finds this book, PLEASE let me know because I have tried and
> found it to be out of print. I want one to replace the one somebody lost
> for me! Feel free to email me direct on it, too. TIA.
>
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:04:07 -0700
From: Vogt Family
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Carbs

John Miller wrote:
> > From: William L Ballinger
>
>
>
> > >Someone said he would never put a Rochester on his ford but in fact
> > >they were used on a few back around 68. I believe it was the CJ or
> > >whatever in the Tbird but not sure exactly which one it was so that
> > >makes it legal for ford use IMNSHO :-)
> >
> > I think it was in '71 on the 429.
>
> Well it was me that said I wouldn't mount one on my Fords, I respect your
> ways of using what works but I just like to use all FoMoCo parts. There is
> one thing I want to take you to task about though. I think you may be
> thinking of another carb which maybe in someways resembles a Rochester
> Quadrejet. I don't think you would have ever seen a G.M product on a ford,
> especially the T-bird or a CJ engine. I have tuned allot of vehicles in the
> last 21 years and have never seen a combo you are speaking of. If someone
> has proof of this ever being factory installed please post your reference.
> I think you are thinking of a Thermoquad, which does appear similar and
> even is almost the same in operation. Baked potato suit on and ready.. :)

He is right, I have two Quadrajet setting data sheets that came with
rebuild kits that give settings fot this T-bird with 429. This is the
only Ford product listed.

Birken T. Vogt - KE6DLT
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:12:13 -0400
From: "Ron"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Clutch Chatter

Azie,
Is your clutch pressure plate new as well as the disc? Even a very
slight oil leak will keep the chatter problem returning over and over
again. All of the area around the inside of the bell housing has to be
cleaned of everything. Dust, oil and etc. Do you have your cover on the
pivot arm? Stuff from the road will get in through there and do it to ya
again. Some folks drill a hole for the relubrication of the release
bearing and do not reseal it (seal it up too). There is a pilot bushing or
bearing in the flywheel for the transmission mainshaft, replace it too. It
will cause the disc to jump around severely. Trans may dribble a little
oil too. Make sure its mainshaft bearing is a solid fit to prevent the
mainshaft from bouncing the seal lip and leaking. There's more but I
better stop for now.

North Carolina Ridge Runner Ron


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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:58:02 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Possible engine swap FE -> 385

At 04:03 PM 5/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>As you know because I talk about it everyday, I have just bought a '68
>F-250 w/360 FE and C6. The engine hasn't run in at least 10 years but I
>fired it up on Saturday. Well it doesn't have compression for squat (might
>get better if it runs more, don't know yet) and the timing chain is real
>loose. Since the 360 was not a real powerhouse to begin with, I question
>whether this engine is worth the investment. If I find the rear seal
>leaking (very likely after so many years sitting) then it has to go.
>
- -snip-

Why not turn the 360 into a 390? Not too tough a conversion.

Ken Payne

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:00:52 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 Ken's Gold

At 05:05 PM 5/27/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Ken,
>
>I just finished up on pulling Stu's old A/C apart. I put in a new heater
>core and blower motor. I figured since the unit was out I'd replace
>anything on the interior that may go bad. I don't want to go into this
>thing again. I hope to have the unit installed by this weekend and
>ready to go to the shop to have the unit purged and charged with
>R-12. I checked into the R-134 conversion. Everything should work
>but has a higher head pressure that R-12. Also, the molecular
>structure of the R-134 is a lot smaller that R-12. What I was told, was
>that a non-leaking R-12 system may not even be able to hold R-134
>due to leaks. If you have the old type A/C hoses, be very careful.
>They are expensive to replace. I just spent $223 to have new ones
>made. They're nice, but OUCH!!

Luckily for me, I still have a few cans of R12! Heh heh heh....

>
>I don't know if yours had A/C before or not. You may want to check the
>bolt hole configuration on the fire wall. My old heater unit had 3 bolts
>holding it on the firewall. The A/C unit has two bolts for the lip of the
>dash and 2 bolt through the firewall. Looking at the firewall from in front
>of the truck the left hole that was used with the heater lined up. The
>right
>didn't exist. But....., there is a dimple about 1-1/2" down from the top
>right bolt hole for the old heater unit. Drill that out and it should line
>up
>with the unit. Mine came out of Stu's '71 and has '67 and '68 part numbers
>all through it. I believe they will be the same.
>
>I hope this helps some.

It does. I'll save this message for later (easier than digging through
the archives).

>
>Enjoyed meeting you, Peggy and all the other FTE folks at Pigeon Forge.

Likewise.

> I can't believe that guy sold my manifold at 2:30 am. Oh well, I'll keep
>looking!

I guess when you gotta have a 4bbl manifold, your gotta have it, even
at 2:30am!

Ken Payne


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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:13:10 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - virtual motors

I just built a "virtual motor" for my webpage and Deacon helped
me get it "tuned up" and running...
If You're curious what Your V-8 looks like inside when it's running
then check it out at:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/

Steve


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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:15:10 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - A message from Stu

Stu left and sent this message to the list, it bounced because
he's no longer a member. I felt his message needed to be seen:

Forwarded for Stu:

Last Hoorah! As of this moment I will be missing you fellers til August!

Save me a seat til then.

Deacon, will you do the honors of adding the Nuke GM! to your posts?

I'd hate to think the GM boys will get away with something while I am gone!

Thanks and don't give Ballinger a hard time on the whippin post!
Stu

Nuke GFM!




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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:29:57 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - virtual motors

At 06:13 PM 5/27/98 -0700, you wrote:
> I just built a "virtual motor" for my webpage and Deacon helped
> me get it "tuned up" and running...
> If You're curious what Your V-8 looks like inside when it's running
> then check it out at:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/
>
> Steve

Not bad! You guys gotta check it out!
Ken payne

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:30:49 -0400
From: "."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - DISC BRAKE CONVERSION F350

Hey Jeff !
I found another way of determining which spindles would fit from 250 to =
350 today. Spent a little time at the 5th largest FoMoCo parts =
department in the US with an old parts book and a counterman. In the =
old book , there is a listing of front axle assemblies with individual =
parts lists broken down for each type.
Found that some F250's...note "IF"....if they have a rating of more =
than 7500 GVW are exactly the same as the ones used on the 350's.
I'm goin to the boneyard tomorrow to check the data plate of the one I =
found last week.......hope its 7500+.
JR

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:36:28 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Ranchero list?

Anyone here think a Ranchero list would be a good idea? The
Ranchero folks really are up a creek since they join, find
very little talk about their truck/car and leave. There really
isn't much on the net for Ranchero folks. It shouldn't be a
problem for us to admin it, I don't expect high volume postings.

Let me know,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:39:50 -0500
From: Jim Henjum
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Possible engine swap FE -> 385

John Strauss wrote:

>
>
> Finally, the question: What can I expect as far as hassle factor to
> replace the FE with a 385 motor? I guess my only real concern is the motor
> mounts. I already know the C6 will bolt up,

John, The tranny won't bolt up. The 460 (and 429) have the same bolt
pattern as the 351M and 400, but not any FE. As far as 460's go, I have heard
that they are all good, I'm putting a '73 in my truck now. I'm using L&L motor
towers and mounts. I think all accesories will fit, using the 460's stock
accessory mounts. I can't wait to hear it run!

Ross Henjum

'75 F250 4x4 down to frame, frame getting painted now. I've already
put in a reverse Dana 44 front, Dana 60 rear, D*dge steering gear and
linkage, saddle-mount fuel tank, and new brakes, etc. It's gonna have a 460,
NP-435, married 205. The body is going to be off my.......

'78 F150 Bought it for the body to go on above truck




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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:44:58 -0400
From: DC Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 68 F-250

These trucks are beautiful, aren't they?

'67-72 beds are all the same except for reflectors. After '67 the feds
started to require reflectors, and I think =

they changed position over the years. Starting in 1973 beds have a
different body line.

Just about anything of any relevance swaps. I know that heater =

controls changed in '68, so did the rear view mirror placement,
chrome and grille stuff (obviously), maybe steering columns/wheels (I hav=
e
the giant bus wheel!!)
but most of the mechanical meat and potato stuff will swap over. =


As far as seats go, I've been told that I have the seat out of a '78 in
mine. I don't =

know for sure though, it was there when I bought it. It's cloth and has
vinyl half way =

down on the back. It also tilts forward.

Non FTC: I have recently installed MS Outlook version 8.xxx.
If there is someone out there who can help me get it to stop =

showing the $$# equal sign all over when my messages come
over the list I would be eternally grateful. Please email private.
dcbeatty compuserve.com

Hope this helps. =


Drew Beatty
1967 F100 352 (soon to be 390)
1974 Maverick 302

>Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:04:29 -0500
>From: John Strauss
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - 68 F-250

>I've aquired this 68 F-250 that I need some help with. =


>
>I just acquired the same truck with the same powertrain about a week ago=

so
>we can learn together. :-) =


_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:45:01 -0400
From: DC Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Oil Drain Plug 68 F-250

>Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:08:39 -0400
>From: Ken Payne
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Drain Plug 68 F-250

>Every 67-72 I've had the pleasure of crawling under has been like
>this!

>Ken

Me too. You get used to it, John, really you do. You find the perfect
wrench, the
optimum angle of approach, and the biggest drain pan that's sold at the
parts house.

You and your truck are bonding!!

Drew Beatty
1967 F100 352 (soon to be 390)
1974 Maverick 302

John Strauss wrote:

At 01:44 PM 5/27/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Who is the "genius" at Ford that decided where to put the oil drain plug=

on
>my '68 F-250 w/360 FE? It's got a front sump to clear the drag link, OK=
,
>but why not put the drain plug at the FRONT of the sump? Where it is no=
w,
>at the rear corner of the sump, is right over the frame rail for the TIB=
=2E
>Oil runs all over the place and makes a big mess. Plus the plug is not =
a
>joy to get a wrench on. I love Fords, own 6 of 'em, but this kind of
>engineering snafu is embarrasing for FoMoCo. Are all the FE trucks like=

this?
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:15:47 -0700
From: Aaron Jacobson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - mixed tires

I agree with all the handling problems associated with mixing tires.I
was running bias in the front and radials in the back of my 65 and I did
notice a lot of wandering in the back end.This in itself however didn't
convince me to purchase two more radials for the front as I had many a
mile left on the fronts.After a little chat about doing 55 in a 40 with
our friendly Royal Canadian Mounted Police however;he managed to
convince me by giving me a fine of 89 bucks for mixed tires.I dont know
what the laws are in the states that you fellow FTEs with the mixed
tires live in but might be worth checking.
Jake in B.C.
65 f250 camper special(flat black and still going)
now with four radials and 89 dollars less, not counting the two new
radials.
351c
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:32:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve & Rockette
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - California get together

>>For those not familiar with the former logging towns of the
>>great northwet, you cant get to Fall City easily except
>>through Preston.
>
>Or Redmond, Or Carnation, Or Northbend

Getting into Fall City from any of these towns would be a great
drive for tourists, but not for the folks who live in the area, we all
know how tourist types drive.

>And Fall CIty gets ripped up every weekend, anyway...
>
>I have a feeling there's a lot of old Ford iron stashed around that area
>(Lower Snoqualmie River Valley). Definitely need to plan a scouting
>trip...The Preston-High Point area should be pretty good, too. Where do
>you work?

You're right, there *is* alot of old Fords running or not in the valley,
but most people don't want to get rid of them. One of the women I
work with has a gorgeous 77 F150 4X4. pretty much all stock, except
for the 460.

I work in the largest building in Preston, its called SanMar.




Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
'63 F100 Longbox
'94 Taurus SHO - SWMBO's new car!!

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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 22:41:08 EDT
From: WardT1 aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Junk Yard A C install?????

Hi All.
I just installed in my 75 F250 4x4, an AC unit I pulled from a 79 F250 at a
local wrecking yard. Every thing fits great, but I cant get the electrical
working.
I am hoping someone out there can help!!!!!.
First the heater control wiring is different!
Second there are four wires from the unit in the motor compartment, one is a
ground, one is for the compressor, where do the other two go (black &
green)???

I can only get power to the fan motor from the black wire.

Thanks!
B.Ward 1975 F250 4x4 Crewcab
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Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 20:11:31 PDT
From: "Kevin Leone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1963 front disks anyone???

Does anyone know of a set of front disks that can be adapted to fit a 63
2wd? It has the stock front axle, and I'd also like to know if anyone
has ever put power brakes from a different year truck on one of these
early 60's trucks with stock front axle? PLEASE HELP!!

Kevin Leone
63 F-100 stakebed
Y-blocks rule! : )

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