FTE 61-79 - 428 to 427

61-79-list-digest Wednesday, May 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 292

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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - 428 to 427
Re: FTE 61-79 - Good-bye and see ya next fall
FTE 61-79 - Transmission problem.
FTE 61-79 - 9 inch rear-end ID
FTE 61-79 - Re: Emergency brake light, Speedometer and other odds and ends
FTE 61-79 - Cleveland in a Unibody?
FTE 61-79 - Re: Brake Fluid
FTE 61-79 - crossover
Re: FTE 61-79 - Good-bye and see ya next fall
Re: FTE 61-79 - 9 inch rear-end ID
Re: FTE 61-79 - crossover
FTE 61-79 - spreadbore
Re: FTE 61-79 - Good-bye and see ya next fall
Re: FTE 61-79 - '68 Biody/ '95 frame
Re: FTE 61-79 - Foreigners
Re: FTE 61-79 - spreadbore
Re: FTE 61-79 - 203 Transfer Case problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - spreadbore
FTE 61-79 - Ignorance confession

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:08:26 EDT
From: BDIJXS
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 428 to 427

Hey Tom,

The 427's were cast on a different line than the other FE's and were cast with
the bigger bores. If I remember from either Christ's or Ganahl's book, they
were machined to tighter tolerances had a different casting metal....in other
words, probably no way on boring out the 428....but, being an optimist, maybe
someone here will tell us I'm wrong....

Colorado Jeff
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:28:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Good-bye and see ya next fall

>I suppose you are talking about somebody else? Or did y'all get together
>in Pigeon Forge just to make fun of me?
>
Marko -

Actually you were a large topic of conversation from the 61-79 bunch that
attended PF. They all looked at me and said, "where's Marko been?" (Like I
am my brother's keeper)
Ken said you'd be back. I just told 'em you been really busy with work ,
the resto and kyaking etc. You have been missed here of late!!!!!
You do have a knowledge that is valuable to the list.

Me, i am just good at being full of BS!! I am a world champ at that! :^}

Gotta bring your truck next year Marko!
Your Mercury 3/4 ton 4x4 of 1967 vintage will be one show stopper if you
bring it next year!!! Please say you'll stop by Deacon's house (get the
fishin' pole too) and snag him for the trip east if you show. Get Keith
Srb too! That would be one fun trip across country in a 32 year old Mercury
truck! I may fly out west just to ride with youall if you do it!

Stu
Nuke GM!

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:35:00 -0500
From: Bill Adams
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Transmission problem.

My grocery getter is having a transmission problem.
When you hit the gas after sitting at a light it sometimes "jerks" as
the automatic transmission catches.
It seems like the engine just isn't connected to the drivetrain at first
then... jerk, and away it goes.
No apparent noise.

Any Ideas?

Ok It's a Chev Celebrity 2.5L front wheel drive and I know I need to
trade it in on a Explorer or some such but the wife bought it while I
was in Saudi Arabia, OK.

After listening to the descriptions here I plan to change filter and
fluid this weekend.
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Thanks (and sorry)
Bill Adams

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:36:56 -0500
From: Bill Adams
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 9 inch rear-end ID

How does one identify the ford 9 inch rear end.
Is it viable in a 66 F-100, that seldom hauls anything but sometimes
tows other old trucks?
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Just wondering?
Bill Adams

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:58:04 -0500
From: Bill Adams
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Emergency brake light, Speedometer and other odds and ends

Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 21:49:58 -0400
Garry Bowling Wrote:

Speedometer: ever since I swapped the 3 spd tranny and installed a C-6
the speedometer is 8 mph off. It registers too fast. Also the needle
bounces a whole lot until you get going about 30 or 40.. I replaced the
cable during the restoration but not the gear that goes into the
transmission. Any ideas out there?
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Bearing in Mind that I have never been inside an automatic
transmission....

but I bet they work a lot the same.

That bouncing until around 30 or 40, sounds a lot like what happened to
my T-18, My T-18 was also reading inacurately but usually reading too
slow. The gear on the shaft INSIDE the transmission which causes the
speedo cable to turn, was stripped. I removed it, (the gear) took it to
a transmission shop, they counted teeth and ordered me a new one. Of all
the stupid things, the gear on the end of the speedometer cable (easy
to change) was metal, and the gear inside the transmision (hard to
change) was plastic! That situation is now reversed.

Since you recently changed your transmision, I bet the speedo cable gear
isn't meshing with the shaft gear inside the transmision.

That may fix your entire problem. On the other hand it may still be 8mph
off after the new gear is in place.
If it is you have to make a lot of calcualations concerning the gear

ratio of your rear end and your rear tire size.
I don't know the exact procedure but I bet someone on this list does.

L8re
Bill Adams

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:17:17 -0500
From: Bill Adams
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Brake Fluid

Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 00:16:04 -0400
From: "Kristen Marcellus"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Brake Fluid

On a more serious note - is it possible for brake fluid to go bad? Does
synthetic brake fluid become thick when it gets older? Tomorrow I'm
draining the brake fluid out of the system and need to know what I can
do to
flush it out and what's the best to put back in. The power brakes fail
in
stop and go traffic but straighten out once you get going again. If
anyone
has any idea why I'd really appreciate any suggestions.

Tell us more, Kristen.
Disc or drum?
Is the motor running alright?
Were you braking hard, as in 60 MPH stop and go or was it 25 MPH stop
and go.

If it was stop and go with lots of hard braking, it was probably brake
> fade, especially if your running drum brakes. The only fix for that is
make sure your drums are clean (not caked with mud) and are getting good
ventalation. They are just getting too hot. Some Custom wheels will
cause this by keeping air from getting to the drums.

Check your brake lines, make sure they are not too close to your exhaust
> manifold or other hot things. If they are the fluid can boil and have
the same effect as air in the lines. The breeze when you get moving will
cool the lines and the brakes work again.

Is the motor running good? A vacuum leak can cause power brakes to be
weak. After they are powered by engine vacuum.

Ive seen all these cause the brakes to act sort of like what you
describe.

Bill Adams

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Subject: FTE 61-79 - crossover

Gary writes: >>I haven't inspected one but I suspect that there is no
cross over either since one of the reasons we buy these is to get a cold
intake. This also reduces the cost quite a bit. The EGR part is just a
drilled hole and slightly different carb base which wouldn't effect the
cost very much.

Maybe I jumped in without knowing what we were talking about. Are we
talking about stock factory intakes???? I've never seen one without the
exhaust crossover. It provides heat to the Intake for atomization of the
fuel. Also the ones that have EGR is merely cast with a place for the EGR
to bolt up over the crossover. I blocked these off when I was racing by
using thin aluminum sheets on both sides of the intake where the gaskets
had the holes for the crossover. You could buy special intake gaskets, but
they cost more, and thin aluminum sheets were free.

Am I in the wrong conversation????????

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:04:40 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Good-bye and see ya next fall

At 01:28 PM 5/20/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>>I suppose you are talking about somebody else? Or did y'all get together
>>in Pigeon Forge just to make fun of me?
>>
>Marko -
>
>Actually you were a large topic of conversation from the 61-79 bunch that
>attended PF. They all looked at me and said, "where's Marko been?" (Like I....

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