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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, May 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 290 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - 78 Bronco/ FTE 61-79 - re: 4 barrel carb Re: FTE 61-79 - re: 4 barrel carb FTE 61-79 - '68 Biody/ '95 frame FTE 61-79 - 4bbl Re: FTE 61-79 - New list member and new owner of a '78 F100 Rang Re: FTE 61-79 - f100's from griffin,ga FTE 61-79 - New list member and new owner of a '78 F100 Ranger FTE 61-79 - EGR Re: FTE 61-79 - New list member and new owner of a '78 F100 Ranger Re: FTE 61-79 - Automatics and RTV (Was Great discoveries) Re: FTE 61-79 - EGR FTE 61-79 - tailgate > FTE 61-79 - re: '67 brake drums Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Good-bye and see ya next fall Re: FTE 61-79 - New list member and new owner of a '78 F100 Ranger FTE 61-79 - What year for cats in an F-250 4x4? Re: FTE 61-79 - What year for cats in an F-250 4x4? Re: FTE 61-79 - EGR Re: FTE 61-79 - What year for cats in an F-250 4x4? Re: FTE 61-79 - Spare Tire Holder ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:43:50 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 78 Bronco/ > From: "Dave Resch" > Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:05:38 -0600 > Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 78 Bronco/ > catalyst (although it does provide some minor non-catalyst HC > reduction benefits), but using them on non-catalyst engines was > probably just a convenience to simplify assembly line production. I could be wrong (there's always a first time) but I can't see ford putting relatively expensive parts on an engine just to fit their fixtures or make the job consistant, trust me, they just don't do that :-) What they will do is use the dual pully alternators if they need to finish a run or use a bracket that also allows for another peripheral which isn't installed (and not in the plan) to get through the day if that's the only one they have left in the plant but don't look for smog pumps on engines that don't legally need them, trust me :-) A more likely scenerio would be to change the planned production run to exclude the pump if there is a legal configuration that doesn't need it if they happen to run out or ship it to the dealer with out it and have the dealer install it in a pinch. My guess would be that you are much more likely to get one without a pump that was supposed to have one because the dealer didn't follow up on it. Ever get a truck or car with no shocks from the dealer? (or an Expedition with no seats :-)) I've seen them ship cars from the assy plants to the dealers with no shocks and have them installed at the dealers because the parts plant couldn't keep up. We've shipped shocks to assy plants as passengers on airlines to keep a plant running and we've used helicopters to do the same thing. BTW, Dave, you really are up on these baby's aren't you? :-) 78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's 78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's 78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! - -- Gary -- = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:33:35 -0500 From: Forest New Subject: FTE 61-79 - re: 4 barrel carb Thought I would add my opinion here. Holleys are wonderful carbs and I have used them for street and race for 18 years but,..... They can be a real pain to work on and tune if you don't have experience with them. Ive seen so many people buy one and slap it on their vehicle and it runs well for a while then starts to decline, problem is them they don't know how to go thru one or what to adjust to make the carb run right. Last year a fellow racer asked me to try a carter AFB carb on my street/strip bracket racer saying that if I didn't like it he would buy it from me. Not only did I like it, tuning was simple, the gaskets have never leaked, I don't have to go thru it every six months, and to top it all off I swear my 60 foot times have picked up a little. Again, Im a holley person but, Carter has sure made me question that decesion. Forest New 1972 Ranger XLT 1989 Ranger XLT 1969 Mustang Mach 1 1923 T-Bucket roadster = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:13:35 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - re: 4 barrel carb > Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:33:35 -0500 > From: Forest New > Subject: FTE 61-79 - re: 4 barrel carb > Holleys are wonderful carbs and I have used them for street and race > for 18 years but,..... They can be a real pain to work on and tune Holley's apparently flow very well which is one reason they are loved by racers. They are also a bit cheaper than the others. The main reason I don't like them aside from the leaks is the low/mid range metering and difficulty in changing it without changing out expensive metering blocks etc. and even then you still have a fussy power valve that you have to vacuum test if you really want it to open at 10 and 5 etc.. > racer asked me to try a carter AFB carb on my street/strip bracket > racer saying that if I didn't like it he would buy it from me. Not > only did I like it, tuning was simple, the gaskets have never > leaked, I don't have to go thru it every six months The metering rod design removes all that problem and makes tuning simple and low/mid range is much easier to control with metering rods and atomization is better also due to the conical spray which is one reason motorcycle engines which are small and need all the efficiency they can get use VV carbs with metering rods. If we really wanted the best of the best we'd all have VV carbs but they are such a pain to keep tuned and much more expensive (remember ford tried them for a while)................:-( Anyone ever have the old SU's? Remember the oil filled vacuum chamber and two mixture adjustments and the metering rod assortment as well? Man! I could ear tune those to perfection and run that TR till it floated but I had to do it about every 6 weeks or so.......got 21 mpg at 100 mph too (as I recall) and 30 mpg at 50 with 4.11 gears. 100 mph was almost 6500 rpm (I still have dreams about that car) :-( 78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's 78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's 78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! - -- Gary -- = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:16:15 -0400 From: am14 Subject: FTE 61-79 - '68 Biody/ '95 frame John writes: >>Will a '68 body bolt up to an '85 frame? I just bought a '68 F250 with a great body and now am seeing an '85 F350 4x4 rollover victim for sale. Can I put the '68 body on the '85 frame without too much trouble? Or is this a rat's nest I ought to stay away from? I seem to remember reading that, I think in '73, the frame was widened and the wheelbase lengthened, or something of the like. This might put an end to the proceedings right there. But I am just in the dreaming stage right now, so does anybody know? A '68 F350 4x4 with a diesel would be pretty cool. Not having either around to look over, and not knowing your expertise nor your available time for the project I probably shouldn't comment, but I'm going to anyway. I believe with enough time and desire anything can be done. If you want it bad enough, then go for it. I wouldn't mind a conversion similar to this myself. New holes can be drilled, and old holes can be stuffed and sealed off. I would not let something like a wider frame width stop me. You may have to have some Hybrid parts here and there, but I'm willing to say it can be done with out a great deal of having to "Make it fit" parts. I also think it would be a very neat truck. Go for it. Azie Ardmore, Al = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:28:33 -0400 From: am14 Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4bbl Ken writes: >>Should I stick with a Ford 4bbl carb and not have > to deal with the kick-down lever problems or go with > the Edelbrock? Or do you prefer something in a Carter > or Holley? I've had good luck with the Autolite carbs. Don't know that they are the best, but they are fairly simple and easy to work on. I've got three of them running now, all on 460's. One of them is a spreadbore, and the other two are square bore, but all perform equally well. I've never tried to check my mileage on any of them, because it is not important to me. I figure I get around 8mpg, but that is mere speculation. If the kickdown is your only concern, then D*dge has been running a Cable linkage setup since '95 I know, and maybe longer than that. It has a bracket on the tranny, and one on the Throttle body at each end of the cable. I'm sure a set up like this could be adapted to your Ford Truck. Azie Ardmore, Al. = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:43:21 +0000 From: "Gary, 78 BBB" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New list member and new owner of a '78 F100 Rang > Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:43:28 -0400 > From: Bryce > Subject: FTE 61-79 - New list member and new owner of a '78 F100 Ranger > 1. What size tires were stock on this truck?... it has 15 inch 235 75 15 or H-15 in the old style. The 235's are about 29x7.5 (tread, not sure of cross section which is what the width numbers refer to) Probably equivelant to a 9.0 so would be 29x9x15 or there abouts. You can fit 33's on it if you keep the width down but 12.5's are too wide to work in the front and will rub the fenders in the back when loaded. I'd guess you could put some 9.50x31's or maybe even 10.5x31's on it with no problems. The OEM (Cragar) style 5 slot mags look really good on this truck. Mine are only 6" wide so limited to the stock tire size :-( 78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's 78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's 78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long! - -- Gary -- = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:57:13 -0600 (CST) From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - f100's from griffin,ga At 11:07 PM 5/19/98 -0400, you wrote: >two friends of mine were planning to attend the nats at the forge. one of them >was a >69 lwb,tubbed and lowered,390 with dual quads,it is turquoise color and >primer,its still under construction ,its a pretty neat truck for a long wheel > >base,oops,hope i didn't offend anyone. Oh yes, I remeber that truck, I was in awe of that 2X4 setup on top of that 390!!!! Oh MYYYY!!!! Stu Nuke GM! > = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the message body. ======================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:05:13 -0500 From: John Strauss Subject: FTE 61-79 - New list member and new owner of a '78 F100 Ranger (snip) > 1. What size tires were stock on this truck?... it has 15 inch > wheels on it, but it has one size in from and one in back... I want to >put original size or at least the same height and wider tires on it. > Hard to say without some other info - what wheels are on it? Are they regular wheels with hubcaps, white wagons, or aluminum? > 2. It has the Ranger package... what did that include in '78? My >father-in-law also said it had the Explorer package... is this possible >with the Ranger package? how can I tell for sure (it has Ranger emblems, >but not Explorer emblems)? What did the Explorer package come with? > Orange stripes? Where are they located? This sounds like a "Free Wheeling" Package more than an Explorer. I can't remember what the Explorer stripes looked like in '78. You could get the Ranger package on an Explorer truck, but the "Explorer" badging took precedence. It usually say "Ranger" on the cowl panel but "Explorer" anywhere else. Does the dash have orange trim? What about the seats? If so, it's a "Free Wheeling" truck, not an Explorer. Also those trucks came with a special steering wheel with metal spokes. > 3. If I do get it repainted, where can I get the replacement stripes >for it... it is black with two tone orange stripes (any other colors >available... maybe red or burgundy to match the interior)? > Probably only from Ford if you can find them. Otherwise you will have to search the NOS folks for them. > 4. Where can I get info on the VINE and codes in the door? >finally... > Don't know - my Red Book only goes up to '77 but I could guess from that if you give me the VIN. > 5. Was the AM/FM/CB radio a factory item or a dealer installed? > > Yes. _ _| ~~. John Strauss \, *_} jstrauss \( Texas Fight! = Ford Truck Enthusiasts ============================================== Send posts to: 61-79-list Send unsubscribe requests to: majordomo To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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