Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: F-150 weight

61-79-list-digest Monday, May 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 283

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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: F-150 weight
Re: FTE 61-79 - Brake Fluid
Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 F-100 problems
FTE 61-79 - Emergency brake light/Power Steering
RE: FTE 61-79 - Brake Fluid
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford Trucks (was Split wood, Politics, etc.)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Pigeon Forge
FTE 61-79 - Emergency brake light
FTE 61-79 - '68 F250 at it's new home + door glass question
FTE 61-79 - 74 Bronco for sale
Re: FTE 61-79 - slow days
Re: FTE 61-79 - Heat Soak
Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 F-100 problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - Emergency brake light, Speedometer and other odd
Re: FTE 61-79 - Edelbrock Intake--Steve D.
Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 F-100 problems
Re: FTE 61-79 - slow days

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 07:39:45 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: F-150 weight

> From: BlueOval77
> Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 19:52:45 EDT
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: F-150 weight

> Probably the easiest and surest way to get the weight of your truck
> is, as referenced to in Gary Peter's letter to you, to take it over
> to your local gravel yard and put it on the scales. It only costs a
> couple of bucks and they may let you do it for free. Or, if you are
> in need of some gravel, buy a specific amount which they then will
> weigh on their scales while in your truck and subtract the
> difference.

You don't even need to do any math, the "Tare" is the truck weight
with you in it. Course if you want it in pounds you'll have to
convert it :-) Mine was 2.26 tons which convertes in my head to
4500# roughly. If I want to know what the .01 part is I'll have to
get out my calculator, my wife could do it in her head and she has
diabetes. where does that leave me?? :-) Actually I just figured it
out myself it's 20# so my truck weighs 4520# :-) (All this typing
gave me time to think about it :-))

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --
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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:25:10 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 F-100 problems

> From: Kitin10
> Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 22:07:32 EDT
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - '79 F-100 problems

> HELP! I have a 1979 Ford F 100 pickup. My fiance is trying to get
> the drums on the rear wheels off, and he can't seem to do it.
> Everyone we have talked to said to "beat" them off with a hammer. ?
> Also, what is the right way to get the rear wheel axles out? = Ford

I've read all the replies so far and agree for the most part with a
few exceptions:

You should not ever need to uses heat to get the drums off. I have
before too till I discovered exactly what was going on with the
center hole thing. Use a "RUBBER" mallet not a hammer to whack the
drum on its periphery, the outer corner facing you at about a 45
degree angle. A dead blow hammer is best but a cheap rubber one will
work. This angle and the dull thunk of the rubber hammer will walk
the center off the hub so you can easily take it the rest of the way
off after loosening the adjusters as everyone already mentioned.

The axle can be easily pulled with some small (3/16 or 1/4") chain
(of course it needs to fit over the lugs so you may need to expand
the end links or use a slightly larger chain) and a weight if the
tire idea doesn't get it done. The reason you leave the tire loose
on the lugs is so it can act as a slide hammer and you can get a
small amount of momentum when you yank on it.

If you use the chain tighten the nuts on the links fairly snug so
there's no loosenes for them to damage the threads and just insert a
large hammer or other weight in the loop of the chain and yank on the
axle with the weight. This is not a highly controlled method so be
aware that the axle may come out rather briskly this way.

If you expect to do more than one vehicle or do the same one often I
highly recommend getting a kit that includes a universal front damper
puller and the long rod and slide hammer that screws into it to adapt
it to pulling axles or simply an axle slide hammer. It really makes
the job effortless and you'll wonder why you didn't get one sooner.
Proto and OTC make these and can be had from Granger or most any
auto parts store.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Subject: FTE 61-79 - Emergency brake light/Power Steering

Hi Garry,

Are you talking about the little round lamp on the lower left of the dash? If
so, I don't think this is connected to the emergency brake, but rather to the
proportioning valve for the brake system. This is located on the inside of the
frame just below the driver's feet. On a 67', I'm not sure if this thing is
really a proportioning valve or just a machined brake line junction. Maybe
drum brakes on both front and rear don't require proportioning....I'm sure
there are some people here who can clear this up.

Anyway, there is a little plastic connector with two wires coming out of it
that pops into the top of the valve. I know you can still get these at Ford
for about $10. I don't know if its the switch or not, but could it be an
indication of something funny going on with the brake system?

As far as power steering, perhaps either your belt is a little loose or your
system needs a "re-bleed". If you jack up the front wheels, with the engine
> running, and crank the wheel all the way in one direction, turn off the engine
> and let it sit for 10-15 minutes and then repeat this in the other direction
and then repeat the cycle two or three times, you will probably get most of
the air out.....give a little more info here. By the way, you can get a re-
built steering pump no problem, but be careful, most of them seem to be junk!
You might get it from Ford. Even though it will cost more, it will most likely
save you a big hassle in the long run.

Good Luck,

Colorado Jeff

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:31:41 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Brake Fluid

maybe a vacuum leak?? or if you have a high performance engine, it doen't
make enough vacuum at idle (less than 8"-9" may cause a problem), meaning
you need a vacuum can.

sleddog

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From: Kristen Marcellus[SMTP:MrsSlix66

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Sent: Monday, May 18, 1998 12:16 AM
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Subject: FTE 61-79 - Brake Fluid

G'day all!

The power brakes fail in
stop and go traffic but straighten out once you get going again. If anyone
has any idea why I'd really appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks!
Kristen (MrsSlix66

email.msn.com)

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 06:52:18 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford Trucks (was Split wood, Politics, etc.)

Thanks for your message at 02:13 PM 5/15/98 -0600, Dave Resch. Your message
was:
>If you have the proper metaphysical frame of mind (or was that state of
>mind?), you can see how Everything in the Universe is related to Ford
>trucks.
>
Even the blue hat I bought in BLiss, Idaho, yesterday with the Ford oval?
I was so proud until my wife pointed out that it really said "Foxd."

By the way, I think you are halfway to a PhD dissertation with this idea.
You've convinced me, anyway.

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1970 Marquis 429
1973 Mustang 302 (tired)
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)

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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:47:17 -0600 (CST)
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Pigeon Forge

Oh My!!!!! Pigeon Forge was SSSOOOOOOO awesome!!!! I had only 5 hours to
shop for parts, (sounds like a woman! SHOP!) and look at trucks before
heading back.
The video I was going to shoot and copy for distribution wound up one major
glitch
and only about 4 minutes of tape was taken before technical difficulties
struck. I am sorry, especially to William Ballinger, whom I promised to
send a copy.
;(

After seeing a sea full of trucks, I am even more inspired, NOT that I have
become uninspired, to get my truck finished before May 1999. A lofty goal
but we are working hard to attain it. Save me space next year Gary B.
beside your 67.....

For you 427 Cammer people, The Cobalt Blue 427 SOHC 1956 Effie was one of
the most awesome and fear inspiring rigs I have seen in quite awhile! The
67-72 crwod enjoyed many , many fine looking rigs! But, Probably the nicest
truck IMHO, and it is a very humble opinion, was the 2 tone baby blue/white
66 model F-100 4x2 someone had perfectly restored to stock! Gorgeous and
slick!!

The greatest part of the brief journey was getting to meet all the guys and
gals that showed up from the list. Just absolutely awesome. Finally a name
and face can go together. Too Awesome!

Last but not least, Ken, Peggy and kids, thanks for all the hard work and
dedication.
I think I just realized the magnitude of work involved with the
website/mailing list this weekend as I saw everyone scurrying around! I
am even more priveledged than I thought to be a part of it all!! Thank you!
I can't say it often enough or sincerely enough!!

If you have never been to Pigeon Forge, THIS IS A MUST!!
Plan for next year!!

Stu
Nuke GM!!

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