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61-79-list-digest Saturday, May 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 279



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Re: Freeze plugs
Re: FTE 61-79 - Balanced and Blueprinted
FTE 61-79 - ...no subject...
Re: FTE 61-79 - ...no subject...
Re: FTE 61-79 - Body Mounts
FTE 61-79 - Re: Tranny fluid change
FTE 61-79 - Re: Edjeekated Idiots
FTE 61-79 - Re: Politics, etc
FTE 61-79 - Re: Correct trans & case lube
FTE 61-79 - Wood splittin' and bed wood
> FTE 61-79 - Diversity
FTE 61-79 - Fwd: FTE Pre61 - great time at the show in pigeon forge

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:21:07 -0700
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Freeze plugs

> I have a question about freeze plugs. I have one that has a pin hole rusted
> in the center. Keep in mind that I live in the middle of Texas where it
> doesn't get very cold or cold for very long at a time. I also maintain my
> antifreeze religously. The rubber freeze plugs are a snap to install. Is
> there a bad downside that I should be aware of? I wish we didn't have the
> freeze plug feature because we really don't need them down here. Are they
> used when casting the block, too? The last thing I need is for the dang
> thing to shoot out in the middle of July.

Yes, the freeze plug holes are there to support the core when casting.
They don't really help if it freezes the block. I had a rubber one that
was in the truck when I bought it blow out on me once. However I was,
shall we say, giving the truck a run for its money.

Since there was no way to install a
metal one without pulling the motor,
I just put a rubber one in there beside the road and it has held since.
This is with a 16lb cap.

Birken T. Vogt - KE6DLT
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:27:31 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Balanced and Blueprinted

From: Ryan Dorman
>What I meant was : In terms that people with limited machinest/ engine
> >knowledge could understand..(not everyone is experienced enough with
>engines to understand the barage of technical terms.)

The PepBoys sale paper is the blueprint and the checkbook is balanced.
:)

Deacon
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Date: Fri, 15 May 98 17:10:55 -0700
From: "SGT CHRISTOPHER S DENSON"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ...no subject...

To Ryan Dorman,
How many Army dogs are there? 400,000+? There's 174,000 Marines. Now, let's
talk about ASVAB scores, The Marine Corps comes in second behind the Air
Farce while the Army comes in a distant last behind the Navy, why is that? So
who's the real dumb dumbs here? What your Army Ranger Special Forces do is
just another day for our regular grunts. Just proves not everybody can be a
Marine while anybody can be a soldier. What kind of training do you do? A-
R-M-Y T-R-A-I-N-I-N-G S-I-R!!!!!!!!!! Semper Fi soldier.

Chris
67 F100 Camper Special/352

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:50:50 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - ...no subject...

SGT CHRISTOPHER S DENSON wrote:

> To Ryan Dorman,
> How many Army dogs are there? 400,000+? There's 174,000 Marines. Now, let's
> talk about ASVAB scores, The Marine Corps comes in second behind the Air
> Farce while the Army comes in a distant last behind the Navy, why is that? So
> who's the real dumb dumbs here? What your Army Ranger Special Forces do is
> just another day for our regular grunts. Just proves not everybody can be a
> Marine while anybody can be a soldier. What kind of training do you do? A-
> R-M-Y T-R-A-I-N-I-N-G S-I-R!!!!!!!!!! Semper Fi soldier.
>
> Chris
> 67 F100 Camper Special/352
>
>

And the FTE content here is.....?
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Don Grossman
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63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:56:39 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Body Mounts

>
> By the way, do you know if 1/2-ton and 3/4-ton U-joints are the same?

Which U-joints?, which front axle??


OX
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 19:28:13 -0700
From: Pat Brown
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Tranny fluid change

> From: "John LaGrone"
> For John Hammell: Watch out for that tranny fluid. I insisted earlier that
> my 79 C6 uses Dexron II. My truck wouldn't back up under a load because
> someone (my older but not wiser sister) had poured Ford ATF down its
> gullet. I looked up the ATF specs in the owner's manual and matched it to
> the can or bottle. I know I have the Right Stuff. A 67 C6 or C4 could use
> Ford ATF. Ask someone who knows for sure. Guys? I do know one thing for
> sure, don't put the wrong kind in it. Also, you aren't going to get it out
> of the torque converter, so you are still going to have a bit of old ATF in
> there, too. When you actually change the oil, do it somewhere that you
> don't mind getting oily. The first couple of times until you get practice
> are messy. Reason: no drain plug.

If you want to change fluid often, install a drain plug kit. I've seen
them at NAPA and Kragens, $10 for the B&M kit, or $4 in the generic
"HELP" parts section.I had an Aerostar that I would change the fluid
yearly (3000 # Boat), I sold it at 150,000 miles, original tranny.
You need to drill a hole in the pan, I used double sided tape to hold
the nut in place while checking location. You don't want to be drilling
holes and then finding out there isn't any clearance. I just bolted mine
in as was intended, I suppose you could braze the drain in for a cleaner
installation and prevent accidental loosening of the fitting when
changing fluid.

> The fluid comes out all around the pan.
> Loosen it all around, then loosen it so that one of the back corners lowers
> first. Be patient as you do this. If you don't, the pan will drop and slop
> and passerbys will learn the extent of your vocabulary. When you put it
> back together, use a combination of RTV and the cork or rubber gasket in

I would suggest NOT using RTV, or any other gasket goop. A little tiny
piece of RTV can really mess up an AT valve body. Clean the gasket
surfaces well, flatten them as Gary suggested, and use a new gasket.
Tighten the bolts evenly, and go around at least twice.

> the kit. Don't over tighten the pan bolts. I believe specs call for about
> 12-15 inch-lbs and that ain't much. They should be tight enough to stay in,
> but not destroy the gasket, the same as you would do valve covers.

Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 21:27:25 -0500
From: Bill Adams
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Edjeekated Idiots

I have a friend who is a double PHD, math and computer science and he
IS a total goof with such things. His wife had to put a lamp
together for him b

with the chicken though and thanked me profusely :-)) The
guy was very good at what he knew, just not too mechanically inclined
:-)

The Most Ignorant individual I have ever known had TWO Degrees from MIT!
One was a Masters im Math.
The Scary part was that before retiring from the USN, he had commanded
several nuclear submarines and a couple of major shore bases.

Scary!

No insult intended to the Degreed among us. I guess a sheep skin just
doesn't impart or portend horse sense.
Bill Adams

The WoodButcher's Shop
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