FTE 61-79 - RE: Need Advise/Trans fluid change

61-79-list-digest Friday, May 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 278

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FTE 61-79 - RE: Need Advise/Trans fluid change
FTE 61-79 - Ford Trucks (was Split wood, Politics, etc.)
FTE 61-79 - Got It!(radiator)
Re: FTE 61-79 - slow days
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Need Advise/Trans fluid change
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Need Advise/Trans fluid change
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford Trucks (was Split wood, Politics, etc.)
FTE 61-79 - Re: Vapor lock
FTE 61-79 - Vapor Lock or what?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1966 Emergency Brake - Pull Lever or Pedal?
Re: FTE 61-79 - body mounts
FTE 61-79 - Washer Fluid Box
FTE 61-79 - Re:re:Brains
Re: FTE 61-79 - Balanced and Blueprinted
Re: FTE 61-79 - 78 Ford Bronco - Sell or Replace Engine?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tires
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 16:09:15 -0400
From: DC Beatty
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Need Advise/Trans fluid change

John. =

It's like changing oil only messier. Use type F fluid, and make sure the
gasket looks like the right one before you start. You either have an FMX =
or
a C6. My FMX has the dipstick tube screwed into the side of the pan, so
draining it is much less sloppy. =

What I always do is loosen a couple of bolts on one corner. Then, let it
drain out a bit, and then start loosening the others with the expectation=

that fluid is going to slop out when you do. Don't have your face right
there close :). Have a big catch pan. Also, remember to drain the
converter. It holds quite a bit of fluid. There is a drain plug in the
front of it. You may have to ground the coil and bump the motor over with=

the starter to get the drain plug to line up with the access door in the
front of the tranny. If I remember right the total capacity is 10 to 12
quarts for everything.

When you get the pan off, don't turn it over and dump it right away. You'=
ll
want to see if there are any metal chunks in there. A really small amount=

of really small metal flakes is generally ok, but if you have metal chunk=
s
or something in there it is an indication of bad things. The fluid color
should be red, though it can be sort of cloudy because of friction materi=
al
wear. =

Tighten the bolts like you were trying to flatten the pan out from the
middle to the edge. I hope this makes sense. Just snug them up tight and =
it
should be ok. =

When you go to refill it, dump 4 or 5 quarts in, start the motor, then du=
mp
more in, checking the fluid level between quarts. Don't overfill it. =

I'm not sure what's going on with the shifting problem. The fluid change
*may* take care of it. Dextron has more detergent in it than type F, so
maybe it dislodged some crap in there and it's jamming the governor or on=
e
of the shift valves or something. =

Good luck and wear old clothes :)

Drew Beatty
1967 F100 352 (soon to be 390)
1974 Maverick 302

From: "Hammell, John"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Need Advise/Trans fluid change

I am about to challange my limited mechanical skills and try to change
my tranny fluid this weekend in my 67 F250 Camper Special. I believe
that it's a C6 by looking at the shape of the pan, but according to the
Red book and the VIN it's supposed to be a C4. Anyway, I got the screen
and gasket kits for both so I'm not stuck. I've been told that I should
keep the fluid I drain out in case the trans dosen't like the new stuff.
I realize I should only use TYPE F, and that's one of the reason's I'm
changing it, because I found out, looking through some of the receipts
that the previous owner gave me when I brought the truck, I am running
Dextron/Mercon ? through it! Could that also be the reason that she
dosen't want to shift in the morning before she goes about 4-5 miles??
What should I look for when dropping the pan as far as damage or any
type of excessive wear? Is that something I'll even be able to see from
that view?
Also, do the bolts on the pan have to be torqued to a specific # or can
I just tighten them up in any order??
Is changing the tranny fluid as simple as changing the oil??
Any advise or guidence would be much appreciated!!!!!!

J. Hammell
67 F250 Camper Special 352 V8
83 F150 300 Inline 6(only 72,7000+ orig.miles-trying to find a good home
for her!!!)
Hammej01

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:13:03 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford Trucks (was Split wood, Politics, etc.)

>From: Dennis Pearson
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Split wood
>
>Did I accidentally stumble into that darn Wood Splitters'
>LIST-SERV again?
>
>Is this wood for a Ford Truck bed?
>
>
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Politics, etc [Was Charging Systems]
>
>ANd now I've somehow gone into the Hair Dresser's LIST_SERV.
>

Yo Dennis:

If you have the proper metaphysical frame of mind (or was that state of
mind?), you can see how Everything in the Universe is related to Ford
trucks.

For example, all the protons, electrons, and quarks in a Ford truck were at
one time (billions and billions of years ago) part of another planet in
another solar system in another galaxie far, far away in some remote corner
of the universe quite remote from the location of the Earth now. That
planet's sun grew to a red giant during its waning years and enveloped that
planet, vaporizing it and disolving all those atoms into disassociated
protons and electrons in its plasmic stew, then collapsed in on itself and
exploded in a supernova cataclysm, spewing forth all those protons and
electrons to be wafted across the universe on the cosmic winds to our own
little corner of the universe, one day to be absorbed into the cooling
clumps that eventually became asteroids, and meteorites, and moons, and
planets and finally came to become the atoms that were harvested from the
bowels of our own Earth and smelted and forged by Uncle Henry's sons and
daughters and lovingly shaped with their own hands into the metal that
would ultimately become our Ford trucks, and... well... you see, it really
is All related to Ford trucks.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:48:00 +0200
From: "Hammell, John"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Got It!(radiator)

Randy,Steve and Gary, Thanks much for the info. In the mean time I ordered
one from a wholesaler called Carolina's, (brother works at local auto parts
> store, but of course they sent the wrong one!) Yes, it is a 4 row Steve, and
I ended up going back to the guy who attempted to repair the old one. I
ordered it through him yesterday, even took it back to him so he could make
sure to get the correct one! Anyway, thanks for all your help again, and if
I get the tranny fluid changed AND the radiator in, well... I just

might....well I've been reading about those Duraspark ignition systems and
.... this stuff can get addictive can't it??!!!

J. Hammell
67 F250 Camper Special 352 V8
83 F150 300 Inline 6(only 72,7000+ orig.miles-trying to find a good home
for her!!!)
Hammej01

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:24:48 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - slow days

> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:01:53 -0500
> From: "John LaGrone"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - slow days

> Gary, if you wait for a slow day on this list, we'll never hear how
> everything turns out.
>
> For John Hammell: Watch out for that tranny fluid. I insisted
> earlier that my 79 C6 uses Dexron II. My truck wouldn't back up

Ford trannys have NEVER used Dextron II but the new Dextron III is
supposed to meet the new ford Mercon spec and so is theoretically
backward compatible. I haven't tried it yet myself but that's what I
put in my hoist hydraulic system the other day so I have some spare
qts lying around.........

> around the pan. Loosen it all around, then loosen it so that one of
> the back corners lowers first. Be patient as you do this. If you

You only need to barely loosen most of the bolts and the ones you
want it to drain from you loosen a bit more and "ease" it loose with
a "large" pan under it. Don't wear your Sunday go to meeting shirt
when you do this :-(

> I still have my hair and my teeth, but my pancreas doesn't work too
> well.

Sorry to hear that John, my wife's been insulin dependent for many
years so I feel for you. So far we're seldom sick at the same time
so one of us is usually available to help the other :-) My pancreas
still works as designed fortunately, my wife says I couldn't handle
it. Maybe she's right :-(

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

- -- Gary --
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:29:25 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Need Advise/Trans fluid change

One other thing you might want to look into is adding an aftermarket drain
plug kit to your trans pan while you've got it off. B&M makes it, P.A.W.
sells them for about $6 and they make changing ATF much easier. Most
aftermarket pans come with a drain plug in them.
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> From: DC Beatty
> To: 'Ford Truck List'
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Need Advise/Trans fluid change
> Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 1:09 PM
>
> John.
>
> It's like changing oil only messier. Use type F fluid, and make sure the
> gasket looks like the right one before you start. You either have an FMX
or
> a C6. My FMX has the dipstick tube screwed into the side of the pan, so
> draining it is much less sloppy.
>
> What I always do is loosen a couple of bolts on one corner. Then, let it
> drain out a bit, and then start loosening the others with the expectation
> that fluid is going to slop out when you do. Don't have your face right
> there close :). Have a big catch pan. Also, remember to drain the
> converter. It holds quite a bit of fluid. There is a drain plug in the
> front of it. You may have to ground the coil and bump the motor over with
> the starter to get the drain plug to line up with the access door in the
> front of the tranny. If I remember right the total capacity is 10 to 12
> quarts for everything.
>
> When you get the pan off, don't turn it over and dump it right away.
You'll
> want to see if there are any metal chunks in there. A really small amount
> of really small metal flakes is generally ok, but if you have metal
> chunks
> or something in there it is an indication of bad things. The fluid color
> should be red, though it can be sort of cloudy because of friction
material
> wear.
>
> Tighten the bolts like you were trying to flatten the pan out from the
> middle to the edge. I hope this makes sense. Just snug them up tight and
it
> should be ok.
>
> When you go to refill it, dump 4 or 5 quarts in, start the motor, then
dump
> more in, checking the fluid level between quarts. Don't overfill it.
>
> I'm not sure what's going on with the shifting problem. The fluid change
> *may* take care of it. Dextron has more detergent in it than type F, so
> maybe it dislodged some crap in there and it's jamming the governor or
one
> of the shift valves or something.
>
> Good luck and wear old clothes :)

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> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford Trucks (was Split wood, Politics, etc.)
> Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 1:13 PM
>
> Yo Dennis:
>
> If you have the proper metaphysical frame of mind (or was that state of
> mind?), you can see how Everything in the Universe is related to Ford
> trucks.
>
> For example, all the protons, electrons, and quarks in a Ford truck were
at
> one time (billions and billions of years ago) part of another planet in
> another solar system in another galaxie far, far away in some remote
corner
> of the universe quite remote from the location of the Earth now. That....

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