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61-79-list-digest Friday, May 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 277



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In this issue:

(Fwd) Re: FTE 61-79 - Power Brake swap
(Fwd) Re: FTE 61-79 - Need Advise/Trans fluid change
Re: FTE 61-79 - FW: Help Needed!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Brains
Re: FTE 61-79 - Friendship and FEs
Re: FTE 61-79 - Split wood
RE: (Fwd) Re: FTE 61-79 - Need Advise/Trans fluid change
FTE 61-79 - Vapor lock
FTE 61-79 - new shoes was:RE: - Brains
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tires
> Re: FTE 61-79 - Driveline Angles
Re: FTE 61-79 - Vapor lock
Re: FTE 61-79 - Body Mounts
FTE 61-79 - Correct trans & case lube
FTE 61-79 - slow days
Re: FTE 61-79 - Correct trans & case lube
FTE 61-79 - Freeze plugs
FTE 61-79 - Edelbrock Intake--Steve D.
Re: FTE 61-79 - Correct trans & case lube
Re: FTE 61-79 - Freeze plugs

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:24:18 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: (Fwd) Re: FTE 61-79 - Power
Brake swap

> From: BJGR47D prodigy.com (MR RYAN STACK)
> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 00:26:44, -0500
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Power Brake swap

> I have a 72' Bronco with manual brakes. The master cylinder needs
> replaced. I was wondering if it is possible to swap in a power
> brake unit from a full size Bronco, or a pickup If it is then I
> would like to know how it might be done, and what problems I might
> run into.

There are differences in the way the pedal interfaces with the MC so
you need to investigate the mechanisms and do some measuring to be
sure they will be compatible. The bronco has a cantilever between the
pedal and MC so there is a mechanical advantage (against the driver)
and the push pin is not lined up with the center of the MC. If the
system you install has the same mechanism between the pedal and MC it
should bolt right up, if not you may be able to drill some new holes
and relocate it if there's room.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:25:14 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: (Fwd) Re: FTE 61-79 - Need Advise/Trans fluid change

> From: "Hammell, John"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Need Advise/Trans fluid change
> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:20:00 -0400

> I am about to challange my limited mechanical skills and try to
> change my tranny fluid this weekend in my 67 F250 Camper Special. I
> believe that it's a C6 by looking at the shape of the pan, but

C-6 has integral bellhousing, C-4 has bolted on bell housing and is
smaller in size as well. FMX is cast iron, at least part of it is.

> trans dosen't like the new stuff. I realize I should only use TYPE
> F, and that's one of the reason's I'm changing it, because I found

Mercon (Dextron III) is the new ford standard and is supposed to be
backward compatible but type F will probably let the clutches grab a
little better. I haven't tried it yet but they say it's supposed to
be ok.

> What should I
> look for when dropping the pan as far as damage or any type of
> excessive wear?

You can't see any of the working parts of the tranny from there but
you can look in the pan for signs of broken parts or particles of
clutch etc. which indicate some wear. Some is normal, lots is
probably a bad sign.

> Also, do the bolts on the pan have to be torqued to a specific
> # or can I just tighten them up in any order?? Is changing the
> tranny fluid as simple as changing the oil??

Evenly by what ever means and don't over tighten them so that the pan
lip is deformed. You can put more pressure on the bolts if you put
flat washers under the heads (if there's room). Place the pan (lip) on
a flat surface and lightly tap the holes back flat before installing
it. You should do this with any sheet metal pan or valve cover to
ensure even sealing etc..

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:49:32 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FW: Help Needed!

> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:21:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FW: Help Needed!

> Don't they have the same core size (26"w x 20"h) but the camp
> special is 4-row instead of 3?

If it's 26" wide then you can get this in several flavors including
19" long and 24" long cuz that's what I have in my bronco (78) and
just about any number of tubes you want :-) I have a feeling the
ford trucks were the same for a long time. Where you sometimes see a
difference is between the vans and pickups etc.. I ran into this
when I put my van radiator into the pickup. I had to trim the frame
to make it fit. (but it did fit eventually :-))

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:53:31 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Brains

D'OH! (Homer Simpson impression. Sorry it just seemed to fit)

Mandatory FTC: Baby needs new shoes. Anybody got some recommendations for
33X12.5-16.5s for a 4X4 daily driver? It does see a fair bit of off road
time.

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> From: CLARE WATERMAN
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Brains
> Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 6:12 AM
>
>
> no brain surgery -- i usually chop the heads off before i do an
experiment
> ;)
>

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:52:15 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Friendship and FEs

> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:20:08 -0500
> From: "John LaGrone"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Friendship and FEs

> I have some tire questions. My 79 F150 has the original steel
> wheels, five lug 15". I currently have P235/75 passenger car tires
> > all around. Does anyone know how wide my
wheels are? I think I want
> to put P205/70s on the front and something like P245/70s or 65s on
> the back. Will they work on my stock wheels? Any suggestions or

> alternatives? This is 99.9% a street use truck.

I have a stack of rims out back. I'll try to remember to measure
them tonight when I get home. (don't count on it tho, I'm so absent
minded it's scary) but I think they're 6", not sure.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:59:14 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Split wood

No actually you stumbled on the "2OCRASWBITGOD" list-serv. That's 2 old
codgers reminiscing about splitting wood back in the good old days. You
know back when they had wood burning cats, walked to school 4 miles in the
snow, barefoot, uphill both ways, etc. ;-)

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> From: Dennis Pearson
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Split wood
> Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 7:02 AM
>
> Did I accidentally stumble into that darn Wood Splitters' LIST-SERV
again?
>
> Is this wood for a Ford Truck bed?
>

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:09:01 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: (Fwd) Re: FTE 61-79 - Need Advise/Trans fluid change

be careful not to get a faceful of ATF! actually dropping the pan itself
is the hardest part IMHO. it is a dirty job and not really easy to not
spill ATF. usually it sloshes around, out the sides, and many times makes
quite a mess.
just a warning. . .

sleddog


> From: "Hammell, John"
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Need Advise/Trans fluid change
> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:20:00 -0400

> I am about to challange my limited mechanical skills and try to
> change my tranny fluid this weekend in my 67 F250 Camper Special. I
> believe that it's a C6 by looking at the shape of the pan, but


> Also, do the bolts on the pan have to be torqued to a specific
> # or can I just tighten them up in any order?? Is changing the
> tranny fluid as simple as changing the oil??




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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:10:18 -0500
From: "Don Yerhot"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vapor lock

Anyone got any good ideas for curing vapor lock? I've got a 65 f250
with a 75 351W running a Motorcraft 2150 carb and stock egr style
intake. I've got a Felpro .5" plastic spacer over the EGR plate, also
have an aftermarket 14" aircleaner that gives lots of room around the
carb. The old beast start's great when cold, but when hot, if I let it
sit more that a couple of minutes, I need to crank it over about 30
seconds before it finally fires up, usually with lots of black smoke and
a miss that goes away almost immediately. I assume this is happening
because the gas is boiling out of the carburetor bowl into the intake
ports?

Don
Richfield, MN
65 F250

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:18:45 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: FTE 61-79 - new shoes was:RE: - Brains

my personal favorite for what you descibe is the BFG all terrain. a
pretty aggresive tire with good road manners and they last well. if you
live in a area that has heavy winter snows etc, they work very well in
winter. only really REALLY deep mud has ever stopped mine!

i had a set of OEM goodyear all terrains and they were the absolute worst
tire i ever owned, car or truck!!!

sleddog

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From: Bill Beyer[SMTP:bbeyer pacifier.com]
Sent: Friday, May 15, 1998 12:53 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Brains

D'OH! (Homer Simpson impression. Sorry it just seemed to fit)

Mandatory FTC: Baby needs new shoes. Anybody got some recommendations for
33X12.5-16.5s for a 4X4 daily driver? It does see a fair bit of off road
time.



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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:19:53 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tires
>
> From: "Bill Beyer"
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Brains
> Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:53:31 -0700

> Mandatory FTC: Baby needs new shoes. Anybody got some
> recommendations for 33X12.5-16.5s for a 4X4 daily driver? It does
> see a fair bit of off road time.

I can tell you my Sears Trail Handlers were very quiet when I got
them but now with all the cupping etc. they are NOISY, VERY NOISY!!!
And I don't like it one bit! My truck stays on the road except when
I go off road by accident so I don't want the noise. I'd get slicks
if they weren't so bad on wet pavement :-)

I don't see why a person really needs all that
tread on the highway
or even off if mud isn't in the picture? Mud isn't much of a problem
for me so "Smooooooooooooth" is in and "Roughhhhhhhhh" is out :-)

Now, somebody help us both out here? The shop I go to handles Cooper
and Dean tires but can get others. I like the Coopers on my Pickup
but they're just the 235 75 15's. Don't know if they even make them
in the 33's but I suspect they would be noisy if they did since....


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