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61-79-list-digest Saturday, May 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 259



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Bike Shorts
FTE 61-79 - Tassles
FTE 61-79 - Steering Wheel Hub
FTE 61-79 - Well......It's in the ground! :-)
FTE 61-79 - Susie's Saga
Re: FTE 61-79 - Was Alternato Wiring Problem - Now Fuel Pressur
Re: FTE 61-79 - Towing in gear
Re: FTE 61-79 - Soft brakes
> Re: FTE 61-79 - Was Alternato Wiring Problem - Now Fuel Pressur
Re: FTE 61-79 - '69 360 starter/solenoid problem
Re: FTE 61-79 - Was Alternato Wiring Problem - Now Fuel Pressu
Re: FTE 61-79 - Susie's Saga
RE: FTE 61-79 - truck pull classes
Re: FTE 61-79 - After Market Sway bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - 429
Exhaust Crossover/Antifreeze

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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 07:39:59 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bike Shorts

> In my home state of Tennessee.......ever seen Deliverence? A few miles
> from where parts of it were filmed!! Don't be afraid!! It's OK! In the
> Smokey Mountain Park area. Biggest gathering of F-100's? Maybe, I hear
> there are several of them that show. Take a trip from on the left coast and
> visit us!!

Yeah, but just don't wear bike shorts, especially if you look a little
like Ned Beatty.
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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 08:13:08 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tassles

> lovers, FE lovers, 385 lovers, small-block lovers, and M-block devotees?
> Flathead lovers could go sans tassle :-).

I agree, you should have to have OHV to get a tassle, but you could get
an honorary one for a 3-pot setup( uncle had one on a '39 Merc, my first
memory of things that go BAAAARRRRUUUMMMPPP).
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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 09:53:56 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Steering Wheel Hub

Forwarded for ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger), direct personal
replies to him, public replies to the list:

I need a little help on something. I plan to tear into my steering wheel
> hub assembly to replace the bearing and put all of the horn stuff back
in. It looks like it's been stripped in there down to just a turn signal
switch with no c*ncel. I don't know what anything is supposed to look
like in there. I have the large diameter hub like the old trucks had
with the four-spoke 17 1/2 in wheel. My local Ford dealer doesn't have a
listing for the '65 F250 4X4, and can't picture my hub. He says that it
uses the same small hub as the 2 wd, which is obviosly wrong as I've
seen pictures of this year with my hub.

Has anyone been into one? Can you describe the
parts involved, in their
assembly order?
Any help would be appreciated.

I have some Snappy shots of my truck on my website, let me know what you
think.
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 10:02:07 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Well......It's in the ground! :-)

Well gang (s) my lift is in the ground finally! :-):-):-):-):-) The
backhoe operator almost gave up, kept telling me he didn't think he
could do me any justice but I kept begging him to try something else
and in my own inimatable way making suggestions as to how to position
his tractor and he got it done and done well! :-) I jokingly told
him that if he were a young buck now he'd have a new trick to add to
his already large knowledge base :-)

I AM ONE HAPPY CAMPER!!!

Now I still have to make sure the posts will be absolutely level so I
still have lots of hind sight work to do but it will all be worth it
in the end. I'm taking pictures as I go so you can see how it
progresses and some day I'll get a web site to put them on so you can
look at them among others.

I just have to wonder if a 52 year old man should have to work so
dang hard..............I don't feel too bad considering I hand
shoveled over 2 tons of dirt and stone in the process yesterday (and
didn't get one blister) and have another 2.06 tons on my "!/2" ton
truck waiting for me tonight in the barn.......:-) Those Cooper
tires are holdeing up pretty well :-)

Should have the oil in it and ready for the floor by next weekend.
I'll keep y'all posted :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 10:30:20 -0400
From: "Melayne Arnold"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Susie's Saga

Thanks for the encouragement, Deacon. Since I started reading this digest
I've found out why dad goes straight to the e-mail everytime he comes in.
I've only been reading it for about three weeks but I already find myself
looking for certain names. Azie; he always seems to have an answer to a Ford
question (seems to be right too). Stu; always helpful and courteous to

everyone. Deacon; living out in left field somewhere, but always a hoot.
Sleddog; real pro on pulling comp trucks. And there are a lot others, it's
funny that in this venue age doesn't matter, people can talk and ask
questions whether their 17 years old (me) or much, much older(60's, 70's?),
but everyone still seems to get along. This is a GREAT site!
Now for Susie. She's a '79 F-250 custom. Plain jane. No a/c, no power in
cab. No radio even. She does have power steering and brakes though. My dad
drove her forever. (The truck is a year older than I am) He has always told
me that she would be my first vehicle because 1) with the NP435 and her
rearends there was no way I could "hot-rod" 2) she is about the biggest
heaviest thing on the road (protection) if I do have an accident, and 3)
with 400,000 miles on her, dad wouldn't be out that much when I tore her up
like all kids do their first vehicle. (I HATE it when he's always right!)
Susie is almost done (I think). I still have to make the fuel line from
the pump to carb and the brackets to hold it. I need to hook up the wiring
to alt, distributer and carb choke. And the only thing I'm not sure of, stab
the distributor. I'm not sure exactly how to do this and get it right. Some
advice maybe? I could ask dad to help me but that turns into a problem.
Don't get me wrong, he's been a great help on this and I love it when he
just comes out, sits in his chair and we talk while I work on it. The
problem is he can't stand to just watch for long, then he's standing over my
shoulder watching, then he has a hand in, and before long I'm just washing
parts and handing him tools just like when I was ten. Bummer.
Don't want to take up too much space at a time, so I'll quit for now.
I could use instruction on getting the distributor in right though.
Thanks.

Bud

P.S. I've found a use for the list I bet Mr. Payne never intended. I know
my dad will read this on the digest, so I can tell him some things without
getting in his face (always a VERY bad idea!) Thanks a million times again
to the Payne's.

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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 10:43:08 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Was Alternato Wiring Problem - Now Fuel Pressur

> Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:42:04 -0500
> From: Mike Schwall
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Was Alternato Wiring Problem - Now Fuel

> Thanks Gary for the info. I'm going to borrow an ammeter from my
> Uncle and see how much juice the alternator is putting out. If it's
> not putting out anywhere near the rated 60 amps. I may cut the
> fusable link out and put in a buss fuse rated at 60 amps. That way
> I am still protected in case something goes haywire.

In response to the fuel pump question, I tried lower gears because I
read an article which stated that anything you can do to get the
vacuum up will need less gas but it's not that simple. If you are
only getting 3-4 at 1800 rpm I humbly suggest you have a problem
somewhre else as well unless your cam is pretty outrageous. With
Torque cam I get between 12 and 15 at 1800 in my pu with 460. At
that rpm and load it's very difficult to determine the exact
"equilibrium" vacuum because the slightest change in the throttle
makes a dramatic change in the reading so you have to have a very
steady foot and be on level ground to take comparative readings for
tuning.

For the electrical stuff, remember that a "fixture" or "load" uses X
amount of watts regardless of voltage so when there is a voltage drop
because of internal alternator resistane due to load your "loads" are
drawing more amperage. The proper fix is to make sure the alternator
can sustain 12v at idle with all the loads on. If now you probably
should look into a larger alternator or a "slighly" smaller pulley.

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 10:58:44 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Towing in gear

> From: sdelanty sonic.net
> Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 08:57:00 -0700
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Towing in gear

> Here's a "towing in gear" story... It's not Ford truck related, but
> it's probably a good "don't let this happen to You" story.

I have one from last night :-) Couldn't find the keys to the cougar
and it was in the way of the back hoe so I hooked my little chain to
the frame of the cougar and just snagged the underside of the front
bumper of the bronco, locked in 4 lo and idled backward across my
driveway till it was all the way across and out of the way. Never
stepped on the gas at all except to just get it moving and then
realized it didn't need any more than idle so idled the rest of the
way with the rear end of the cougar locked up. It left two deep
furrows in the drive way which John quickly flattened out for me with
his bucket.

Now, what's all this stuff about lower gearing?

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 11:36:34 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Soft brakes
>
> From: "Rick Williams"
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Soft
brakes
> > Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 04:43:29 -0700

> Wrongo Garry, you need another master cylinder. From my past
> experiences, most
parts houses will only sell you the master
> cylinder along with the brake booster, so you may want to return it.

NAPA sells them either way but you get a better deal if you think you
need both to buy them as a unit and I agree this sounds like master
cylinder and my only be dirt under the rubber. Some times just
pumping the brakes vigorously will dislodge the dirt and it will
start working again but MC's are cheap so I'd just replace it.

When you do go to the archives and look up the bleeding
process..................there's tons of info there :-)

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!

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