61-79-list-digest Saturday, May 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 258



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - soft brakes
FTE 61-79 - Another take on wheel speed
FTE 61-79 - headers for sale.
FTE 61-79 - Waz: T-18 shifter bushings??? Now Thanks
Re: FTE 61-79 - soft brakes
Re: FTE 61-79 - truck pull classes
FTE 61-79 - After Market Sway bars
Re: FTE 61-79 - 429 police interceptor w/c6
Re: FTE 61-79 - 360 Rear seal replacement

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Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 23:28:53 -0400
From: Garry Bowling
Subject: FTE 61-79 - soft brakes

Thanks to all who have replied. I do not have any oil leaks. So if do
believe I will change the master cylinder. It is only six months old
maybe I can get an exchange on it.
Thanks again
Garry Bowling

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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 07:48:00 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Another take on wheel speed

SNIP
Please pardon the ignorance of an old farm hand but In my experience
wheel speed just gets you stuck faster.........?? Maybe dirt tracks
at fair grounds aren't bottomless mud pits? Speed makes friction so
it make for more bite? (not much friction in muck :-))


The following is long and my opinion, YMMV
Wheel speed is my friend in Bottomless Mud Pits, but not with "Tractor
Tires" there is too much digging action to a chevron type tractor tire and
not enough flotation.
When running "Boggers" or just "Swampers" wheel speed is critical to
making it or sinking it. The same factors apply as in the pulling
explanation except the rearward displacement of Muck at just the right speed
will propel the truck forward. Too much and you go too fast (out of control)
or straight down; too little and you go too slow and then down! The
balancing factor is the amount of flotation required by the truck.
Way back when the ruts were only a 33 tire deep we could get away with a
tall skinny tire, the theory was that you reached down and grabbed the
bottom. This is hard to do when the truck in front of you is running 44's
and you have "only" 36's. So Flotation becomes key to this equation, get
enough, but not too much. 75% of the time there is no such thing as too
much, that is until you experience it on wet pavement or snow, I just love
it when the tail end decides to lead!!
Here is another observation if the tire is of the all terrain
type like a BFG Mud Terrain you need to error back to the skinny side and
get your flotation with diameter. You are getting the same PSI at the
contact patch but you have more tread engaged to provide energy transfer.
This is because the tread is shallow and only semi-aggressive.
Ether way the wheel speed is going to be higher then expected, though it
generally slows down as the tread gets more aggressive. To go back to the
Chevron Tractor tire; the tread is vary aggressive, or the Tread to Void
Ratio is low (big voids) the tread will displace muck at a high rate, so the
tire digs if the speed is too high for the amount of forward momentum.
Stop to think about the original design application for each tire design.
The Tractor Tire a relatively heavy low powered tractor, that operated at a
low speed.
The Bogger A moderate weight rig running at a high power output at high
speed.
Put a set of boggers on the tractor and it may just sink due to the reduced
flotation offered by the Boggers and the tires may just slick-up with mud
because the tractor will not normally be running enough wheel speed to clean
the tires. Put the tractor tires on say Sleddogs puller and drop the hammer
in soft muck and the tires simply displace all of the muck below the tire
before they can begin to provide forward movement and then Sleddog is going
to make us dig his truck out and spend 2 days washing it to get it back to
pulling weight.
There are a ton more factors Power, Weight, $$$ Available, Suspension,
etc...
and every time I say that wont work some arse goes and does it just to mess
with me!
Of course I could just be observing the wrong things, and my experiences
could be nothing more then a long string of anomalies.

Chris
79 Bronco







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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 20:54:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fernando Montano IV
Subject: FTE 61-79 - headers for sale.

I have a nice set of brand new full length headers for
a small block ford truck which I cant use do to aftermarket sway bar
interferance. Paid $130.00 at Super Shops sell $130.00. In Los Angeles
Area, will ship ups for $20 more. If interested Email:
fmontanoiv yahoo.com

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Fernando Montano IV
FMontanoIV Yahoo.com



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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:02:00 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Waz: T-18 shifter bushings??? Now Thanks

>>Any one got a way to make the shift lever ball joint in the top of this
>>Trans reliably water tight?

> Try a CV Joint boot.....

>Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach
>'63 F100 Longbox

Good Idea, obviously one that I hadn't thought of!
But then I tend to shy away from anything with CV Joints.

Thank You!
Chris
79 Bronco



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Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 21:23:16 -0700
From: "Rick Williams"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - soft brakes

If that thing is only 6 months old, I suggest you try a good brake bleed
before changing it. It's very seldom they go bad after only half a year.
It's amazing how much a bunch of air in the lines can screw things up.



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From: Garry Bowling
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, May 08, 1998 8:30 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - soft brakes


>Thanks to all who have replied. I do not have any oil leaks. So if do
>believe I will change the master cylinder. It is only six months old
>maybe I can get an exchange on it.
>Thanks again
>Garry Bowling
>
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 00:56:45 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - truck pull classes

i thought that the southern pullers were the onlyn ones that had alot of
controversy
about the different classes and rules,ours have changed a dozen times in the
last few years.
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 00:06:58 -0500
From: "Bear"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - After Market Sway bars

I was looking in a catalog and I saw after market sway bars. I was
wondering: What are they supposed to do, how do they work and are they
worth the money? I was looking into getting the front and rear ones...

Thanks,
Shane

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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 01:19:58 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 429 police interceptor w/c6

so are you interested in my 429 pi?i also have a early model 460.
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 02:39:25 -0400
From: papacat webtv.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 360 Rear seal replacement

the lip goes toward the oil that you want to keep in the engine.
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