61-79-list-digest Monday, May 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 243



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In this issue:

"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - Hub Parts
> "Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 clutch and tranny
"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - Gauges
> "Dennis K. Austin" Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 clutch and tranny
"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - thanks again ken
"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - re: external hubs
"Dennis K. Austin" Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 clutch and tranny
"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - Re: U-bolt hoops
"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web chat back up
"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - Re: # $ $% ^^& !!! HELP!
"Dennis K. Austin" Re: FTE 61-79 - re: external hubs
"Dennis K. Austin" Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: # $ $% ^^& !!! HELP!
"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - New Server
"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - Weather stripping
> "Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - Anyone out there?
"Dennis K. Austin" FTE 61-79 - Re: not receiving anything from digest of 61-79

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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 23:02:04 PDT
From: "Dave Walbeck"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Hub Parts
>
Jeff,
What parts do you need? I have a hard time parting with stuff for these
but I have a list of the parts that are still available from FORD. Let
me know what you need and I'll see what I've got.
Dave Complete and Total FORDNUT, Highboy Nut, & FE Nut too!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 04:02:00 -0400
From: "Melayne Arnold"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 clutch and tranny

Please HELP!! any ideas appreciated. I'm Bud Arnold. My dad, Stoney, reads
this digest and says he seen a lot of good information passed around so I
thought maybe someone has seen or had my problem and might have some ideas
for me cause on this one dad just scratches his head.
My truck is a 79 f-250 custom 2wd. When I blew up the original 351M, dad
said I had to rebuild it myself so maybe I'd take better care of it.(This
was his old truck, he had 400,000 miles on it and he really loves it)
I found a 1970 429 that I've rebuilt and had the original NP 435 gone
through, new seals, etc. I finally got it all back in the truck two weeks
ago and I'm really excited about being almost there. I still need to hook up
the electrical and dad's helping me make brackets for the new fuel line
routing. (Edelbrock 750cfm carb w/electric choke) but I'm nearly done!
My problem now. A local company came and towed my truck to the muffler
shop for the new exhaust(straight back duel 2 1/2 pipes), then brought it
home and left it in the driveway. When we tried to push it to the shop door
it wouldn't move. It's stuck in gear. We pushed the 20 ft. with dad's truck
and as the tires turned, so did the engine fan so I know it's in gear.
Pushing the clutch in does nothing. When you move the stick shift it feels
like it goes partway into what ever gear you select. I adjusted on the
clutch until the pedal won't even go all the way to the floor and the engine
> and transmission are still engaged. Dad says someone at the shop must have
shoved into gear to keep it from rolling and now it won't shift cause the
clutch won't disengage. He scratched his head and said all he can figure is
maybe the throwout bearing slipped off the end of the fork. He suggests
pulling the tranny back out so I can get into the bell housing to eyeball
things. After 7 months of work on this project, taking something back off
now makes me want to cry. PLEASE HELP!!!!!any ideas I can try will be
appreciated. If no one has any ideas I guess i"ll just have to drop the
tranny again tuesday or wednesday after work. Thanks for listening anyway.
Sorry this is so long.

Bud Arnold


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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 05:18:06 -0400
From: "Melayne Arnold"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gauges
>
Heres a question for the the more electrically gifted among us. I run
electric trailer brake modules on my trucks. A couple of times I have had my
in dash gauges start acting strange after installing a module. One friend
told me that these gauges work off such small inductance that running
electric brake wiring too close to them can affect them. I've been
considering switching to mechanical gauges, at least for temp and oil
pressure. I'd like to add a couple of gauges too, like trans temp and oil
flow (vice pressure). Any comments on electric vs. mechanical gauges?


Stoney


83 F250, 460, C-6 (Willie)
79 F250, 429, NP 435 (son's project) (Susie)
76 F100, 302, 3-on-the-tree (son's driver till Susie's finished)
69 F? , 390, auto (a gimme, sitting in pasture, haven"t been too close
yet)
73 Mustang, 351-C (building), looking for top-loader
84 Gran Prix, 305(or some such liters) (swmbo)

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Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 09:34:33 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 clutch and tranny

Melayne Arnold wrote:

> Please HELP!! any ideas appreciated. When you move the stick shift it feels
> like it goes partway into what ever gear you select. I adjusted on the
> clutch until the pedal won't even go all the way to the floor and the engine
> > and transmission are still engaged. Dad says someone at the shop must have
> shoved into gear to keep it from rolling and now it won't shift cause the
> clutch won't disengage. He scratched his head and said all he can figure is
> maybe the throwout bearing slipped off the end of the fork. He suggests
> pulling the tranny back out so I can get into the bell housing to eyeball
> things. After 7 months of work on this project, taking something back off
> now makes me want to cry. PLEASE HELP!!!!!any ideas I can try will be
> appreciated. If no one has any ideas I guess i"ll just have to drop the
> tranny again tuesday or wednesday after work.
>
> Bud Arnold

Before you pull the transmission does your truck have a removable floor pan
over the transmission? Pull the pan and transmission top(shift tower).
manually put the transmission in Neutral and reinstall the transmission
top(shift tower). Make sure you get the shift fork located properly. What
happened is that the shift fork moved the gear and now can't move it back.
Some one here can name all the parts (better then I) for you ;)

Laters
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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon

63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 13:17:16 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - thanks again ken

Forwarded for (dcbeatty compuserve.com):


Ken. Thanks again for doing all this stuff. I say "again" because this is=
I
think the third time since I joined the list that you've had to do
something major like this. I know I'm not speaking just for myself when I=

say that all your hard work has been greatly appreciated. =

=

Drew Beatty
1967 F100 352 (soon to be 390)
1974 Maverick 302


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Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 12:31:55 -0500
From: "Michael R. Masse"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - re: external hubs

Dave W.,
Who made those external hubs?? I've seen them on GM dana 44 axles
also, with the only difference being the red plastic knob not saying
ford
on them. Also, do you know why they would of stopped using them in 77?
Was it just a cost issue, or is there something wrong with them? Also a
Highboy question. Did they use lift blocks in back? The reason I ask
is that quite of few of the 70's F250's at a junkyard I go to have the
exact same lift block in them. All of these blocks are the same in that
they have loops that the U-bolt goes through for extra support. I was
just curious if these were something Ford offered or if it was something
aftermarket. It's just weird because all of the ones that have blocks
have these loops which I've never seen on any aftermarket blocks, and
it's only on the F250's.


> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 22:53:15 PDT
> From: "Dave Walbeck"
> Subject: External Hubs
>
> Hey Jeff and All,
> The External (Big Monster Hubs) were available as far back as 67 (at
> least I'm pretty sure but don't quote me on that) they were however
> available for sure from 73-77 (I've got 3 73's with them and they're all
> factory). They all had drum front ends until 76 though but at least the
> outer stuff is the same. Any more Highboy questions fire away.
> Dave Complete and Total FORDNUT, Highboy Nut, & FE Nut too!!!!!!


Mike
'78 Custom
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 12:24:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 clutch and tranny

Bud,

I second that notion! Same EXACT thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago.
What happened with mine was when we picked up the tranny/transfer as one
unit with the chain hoist, it swung it up on end and the reverse shifter
fork slid back. I had the same exact feeling in mine. Just wanted to add
that it might be a good time to check the nylon pads on the fork arms and
replace them if worn.

Tony
tony pscico.com
www.pscico.com/~tony

> Melayne Arnold wrote:
>
> > Please HELP!! any ideas appreciated. When you move the stick shift it feels
> > like it goes partway into what ever gear you select. I adjusted on the
> > clutch until the pedal won't even go all the way to the floor and the engine
> > > and transmission are still engaged. Dad says someone at the shop must have
> > shoved into gear to keep it from rolling and now it won't shift cause the
> > clutch won't disengage. He scratched his head and said all he can figure is
> > maybe the throwout bearing slipped off the end of the fork. He suggests
> > pulling the tranny back out so I can get into the bell housing to eyeball
> > things. After 7 months of work on this project, taking something back off....

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